What did they ever ÜN to you?
>>58919301They just hate regignosis(even though its the truth)
>>58919301They don't like people pushing headcanon.Reginosis is headcanon and the Japanese community agrees.
>>58919301/vp/ treats the Regis just like le quirky people treat Bidoof thobeit
>>58919321>>58919334QRD on Regignosis?
>>58919360I have no idea what QRD is
>>58919321By they do you mean the ESL Paki and the 47 Year Old Janitor wannabe?2 Terminally online fags on /vp/ don't make up the whole board>>58919321Its not "True", its just a fun fanfiction from Japan.
>>58919422>its fanfiction from the creators of the gameSo... its true then
>>58919369Quick rundown>>58919360There's a theory based off of the teraleaks that Regigigas once belonged to a group of titans who were slayed by Arceus at the dawn of time. Regigias is the sole survivor but the battle left him so crippled that he'll never be able battle at full power again.
>>58919369ESL confirmed. >>58919360I'll just past the QRD from the archive. Its apparently popular fan theory in Japan and finally got traction like a year ago in English with the Teraleak giving some credence to the idea, but in other ways disproves it completely>For Eternity the Cosmic Egg just sat in the void>Finally Egg Hatches, Aus(primordial essence that would later be recognized as its avatar Arceus) is born, but is weak.>Eggshells of the cosmic become primordial giants of every type>Regigigas of every type have Jungian fear of existence (having to cope with existence after an eternity of non-existence) >They feel they are forced to exist by Aus hatching when they didn't want to and attack Aus>Aus grew stronger as they attacked it, and eventually kills all your brothers and turns them into plates of every type for its own power. Prior to Arceus Legends, this was taken as pseudo-fact by the Japanese fanbase as the way Regigigas is described and the giants are the plates are described. The lack of a Normal Plate and Regigigas having slow start (slow has the same phonetics as "curse" in Japanese. And he is sealed away after being forced to tow the continents and is level 1 at the bottom of snowpoint temple. But this became disputed in Japan after the Blank Plate Appeared in Arceus Legends, and the discussion has gotten even hotter after the Blank Plate was made to explicitly not be transferable into other games.>Aus beats Regigigas, weakens him, and slows his movements movements with "curses">Aus forces you to carry the continents while weaker as punishment>Regigigas tries to rebuild his family out of earthly materials>Aus has its followers seal Regigigas and all your sons across the entire world>Aus then reduces Regigigas to lv.1 and seals him to rot chained up at the bottom of an ice pit.Then from there people extrapolate that Regigigas and all its kin want revenge on Aus and to break out of the material world back to the void. (Gnosis)
>>58919456Its Fanfiction from the Japanese audience that what they think are implications in the way things are written in Hiragana about the Giants and Regigigas' Classification. Even if you ignore the Blank Plate (which gamefreak seems to be doing going forward) there are still a lot of gaps that have to be made up to make Regignosis work.In all the teraleaks the closest thing we get is the etymology document that explains that Regigigas name was to represent specifically "Kyoo~Jin" relative to "Kyojin" like the lesser regis. And this "Kyoo~jin" is how the Plate Giants are described.But beyond that, the whole cursing Regigigas, him creating lesser regis as revenge, and the defiance against God is all just made up. You could say at best that Regigigas might be something approximating those giants, but we know from the teraleak that the giants aren't pokemon, so to say Regigigas was a giant requires some explanation for how he was lowered into the lowly form of a pokemon. It doesn't completely add up even from the Japanese perspective and the edits page on the Japanese wiki is still actively discussing this.So no, nothing from the creators directly confirms Regignosis, but Japanese fans feel they have a fan theory that might be true. Much of which is hinged on the blank plate.
>>58919301I don't hate them at all. They're probably my favorite set of minor legendaries, maybe I like Latios & Latias more. All of them are in my top 100, I think. They suck, but I like them, and will regularly try teams to make them work anyways. Got to respectable elo with a triple regi team in gen 3 a couple years ago.
>>58919513>all just made up.I should mention.I'm not going to get into the reeds of Japanese wordplay, near-reads, and other shit that would take someone with an actual degree to explain competently, but Regigigas' ability being the same phonetics as Curse is almost assuredly not an accident. You don't HAVE to do this, there are many different ways to phrase things, especially in Japanese, and it is usually the case that someone has thought through why this way, and not another, especially in anything commercial like Pokemon. Pokemon moves and abilities are full of the kinds of wordplay, puns, and allusions that are simply taken as fact everywhere else.It's about as reasonably binding as Huge Power being limited to rabbits, or things associated with rabbits. If Lunatone got Huge Power as a hidden ability, it would make complete reasonable sense, because it is a moon, and getting this power from the rabbits, while if say, Slaking got it, it would be strange, and people would start calling it an honorary rabbit, because there is no reasonable way otherwise.The move Assist, is a multiple layer read of the phrase it references in Japanese. That the move sucks, is appropriate to the read in Japanese.The odds that the ability is named what it is named on accident, is about the odds of a Marvel movie calling a cigarette a fag, and this being a complete accident, not in any way a joke, reference to a character, or shock humor, just an honest word choice that nobody thought about, that nobody on staff realized and pointed out to someone that there are other options.So it's about as made up, as Iron Man handing Spider Man a cigarette, saying "fag?", and the fan base deciding Iron Man thinks Spider Man is gay, or not a real man or hero or some shit.
>>58919490Imagine losing a 1v17 against a baby being your biggest accomplishment.
>>58919301Cringe non-canon bullshit for subhumans
>>58919490Well yeah. Japanese is my first language.I've never seen QRD before
>>58919490My headcanon is that Regigigas is creating an army of Regis to hopefully eventually take down Aus
>>58919490Actually it was never psuedo-fact. Just a very plausible theory.
>>58919656It was all over /v/ when the teraleak dropped. >>58919659Thats the idea most of the Japanese had until Legends Arceus brought out the Blank Plate. Now with the Blank Plate being removed from mainline games, the debate has raged on on 2chan.>>58919661Either way, most of Japan bought into this idea for years. There are tons of fan comics made about this very premise
because they suck ass and arent fun to use
>>58919490>implying every anglophone knows 4chan only acronymsYOUNG MAN
>>58919787I don't care if you're 47 years old. QRD has been ubiquitous on all boards since the Bogdanoff meme a fucking decade ago.
Regirock is my favorite Pokemon. That is all.
Regirock is a cool dude. I would drink a beer with him.
>>58919301Epstein ahh golems
>>58920274go back
>>58920233drinks up
>>58919765The Blank Plate is still present in the data of the latest games. It's simply unavailable. And if a Pokémon, gimmck, or item isn't available in a game, it doesn't mean it never existed or no longer exists in the Pokémon universe
>>58920479I didn't say anything to the contrary. Just that if you go on 2chan or the japanese wiki edits you can see there is a debate about the "Regigigas is the normal Giant" theory purely based on the blank plate never coming over to mainline games.Even moreso because the blank plate BECOMES the legend plate, meaning the blank plate technically doesn't even exist in Arceus legend's ending.Why would the normal type plate become this cosmically powered one? All things that are still in active discussion in japan>>58920188Only if its a drink on the rocks
>>58919490Autistic headcanon
>>58919513>But beyond that, the whole cursing Regigigas, him creating lesser regis as revenge, and the defiance against God is all just made up.but it's really cool so i choose to believe it
>>58920498Legends Arceus is a mainline game. No, the Blank Plate does not become the Legends Plate. They are two separate items.
>>58920510I mean you can do whatever you want. Its a neat fan theory.>>58920522ok but why normal plate and legend plate the only items not able to come over to the mainline game. Shouldn't canon items be transferable? That is the argument they are having in Japan.
>>58919513Aus = ArceusIa = DialgaEa = PalkiaAy = MespritRy = UxieHy = AzelfTex = RegigigasTex is never linked to the giants defeated by Aus. The contradiction goes far beyond "Giant isn't a PKMN" and we can't ignore Blank Plate, which is canon
>>58920573You're aware that テツクス is a common misspelling on テキスト when transliterating the common loan word in business?"Text" テキスト is a common placeholder name of things in lots of Japanese documents.Also "Tex" is not anywhere in the etymology doc for pokemon names and meanings.
>>58920479Gamefreak rarely deletes data for some reason. There's items that existed way back in Gen 1 or 2 that remain to this day.>>58920498Legends is officially classified as Mainline
>>58920563I think it's purely gameplay. Legend because Game Freak probably thought it was too powerful and Blank Plate only existed because there's no abilities or held items, so Arceus' plates were turned into key items to allow it to change types, so they introduced one for Normal type to allow players to change their Arceus to Normal type.
>>58920618Then again they let shit like Incineroar roam free and Arceus is a mythical and not usually tournament legal so....
>>58920618There are tons of redundant items. Seems weird that you can take every other plate but the blank and legend ones.You can't even say "muh balance" because there are tons of things more broken than Legend plate Arceus.If the blank plate is canon, it should be in the rest of the games
>>58920625I think the Blank Plate was purely a way to allow people to change Arceus back to Normal type if the player wished to do that. I'd say it's still canon, just not necessary from a gameplay perspective seeing as Arceus is Normal type by default.
>>58920618>>58920628I agree>>58920625Yeah so? Doesn't make those items non-canon.
>>58920625The Japanese community thinks it's unnecessary from a gameplay perspective and mostly believe it could still be canon.
>>58920563Transferable? Pokemon Home does not allow you to transfer items, so none can be.Just because an item, Pokemon, or gimmick doesn't reappear doesn't mean it's not canon or that it has ceased to exist. Z-A and SV confirm that Legends Arceus and its events are canon. What happens in Hisui justifies many things in Sinnoh as well.Denying their canonical existence simply because some people can't let go of a theory is what seems wrong. In a way, if Regigigas was truly a giant killed by Arceus, it's obvious that Game Freak would never have created this plate.
>>58920645And they would've likely explicitly confirmed it, likely through a dex entry or NPC dialogue
>>58920609Tex is as much a placeholder as Aus, Ea, Ia, Gordon or Birthly. If the all versions of the myth mentions the other placeholders but not Regigigas to link it to the giants, it is because even the old documents do not go in that direction.
>>58920660True
>>58920625What you're saying is illogical. The other plates allow you to change Arceus's form. Blank Plate can't have that effect, because Arceus has that type by default. A second Silk Scarf is pointless.
>>58920274regicock in 5 turns
>>58920188basedregice is my dude
>>58919555Is medicham a rabbit?
>>58921222no you see that doesnt match anons weeb theory, just ignore
>>58920188>>58921102registeel is mine, she is a good girl, who is actually completive as for the fan fiction lore, I actually enjoy it, a good chunk of it is better writen than most modern pokemon. (Though thats not really hard to achieve)
>>58920645>if Regigigas was truly a giant killed by Arceus, it's obvious that Game Freak would never have created this platebut they would still need it for gameplay.if it was removed for gameplay reasons, why couldn't it have been added for gameplay reasons?
>>58921222medicham doesn't have huge power, you RETARD
>>58919301Blatantly untruePeople love the original quartet. It's Regieleki and Regidrago that get some scorn
>>58921303>original>quartet
>>58919301there are billions of pokemon "fans" who derive their experience solely from the anime. they have never played any mainline game. the amount of damage the anime has done is a hundredfold.
>>58921291Because in Legends Arceus, there are already items that can be used to change form and reused it to return to the base form. Every plate could have worked that way, but they preferred to create an new item to revert to normal form instead of creating nothing.They therefore created an item that could have been avoided, but in addition they could have created an item that wasn't a plate to return to the base form (for example a jade orb). But no, they chose to create a plate.Not just any plate, but a plate imbued with the essence of the normal-type giant who was killed. It also features engravings with canonical lore.
>>58921414Why does the game never explicitly talk about the giants outside of the flame and earth plates?We had to get the terleaks to even get like 20% more information on the origin from one supposed version of the lore.
>>58920898Regirapist must be sealed
>>58921731>ùESL confirmed. Even more embarrassing that you're French rather than a Paki. Only French and Québécois keyboards have the ù, so unknowingly by slapping the keyboard for your filename, you revealed you're a salty, rape focused Frenchy. You're literally pepe le pew.
>>58920685and yet GSC had both the pink bow and polkadot bow
>>58920479that’s a legendsfag cope and you know it
>>58920522> Legends Arceus is a mainline gamenot acording to Japanese fans (aka the target audience)
>>58921896There is not really much room for debate on this, GF itself said that the "Legends" games, Arceus and ZA are both canon. Slightly Expands on the past (but seriously didn't reveal anything we didn't already know about ancient Sinnoh outside of the Hisui forms) and the other on the future, where we see Kalos years later after X/Y.>>58920510Its always crazy how in the anime, movies, and card games Regigias is always depicted absolutely dominating the Creation Trio.
>>58921295No ur retard
>>58921881What bro
>>58921681They're not going to explain or develop entities that we never encounter and catch. After all, they're not Pokemon
>>58919301I love them but then again I'm barely ever here in this furry hell.ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN
>>58922001but they are crucial to the lore of the universe. They went out of their way to make 2 of the plates that are supposed to explain the origin of the pokemon universe, that when they came back to this in Legends Arceus they would have explained or address what the giants were.We get multiple Origin myths that were actually word for word, line by line taken from the Teraleak myth documents brought over for the old verses in Legends Arceus, but the meaning of the Sinjoh Sigil in the hall of origin or anything about the primordial giants? Completely ignored.Other than fanservice for showing us the ancestors of a lot of charges in the mainline games and how the "pokedex" began, but doesn't really expand anywhere on the actual meat of the origin myth that we didn't already know.
>>58921731yes in the temple by humans.
>>58921731I don t have a pic of RegiEpstein but here s my funny pic
>>58922027Oh boy, this is annoying to translate.>>58922060You cannot change your true nature.
>>58922011but they serve only to justify the existence of the 18 plates of each type. Game Freak sometimes provides little lore about certain Pokémon that we encounter. I can't imagine them giving more details about giants that never appear in the game and that we don't encounter
>>58922254but its a massive part of the lore along with the hall of origin symbol.We didn't ANY new lore in Legends arceus other than Cynthia's clan bullshit. No new arceus lore, no new palkia/Dialga lore, no new lake trio lore. Why make a whole game meant to expand the lore and the ancient past and give us nothing but a few regional variants?Even then, shit doesn't line up with the main game. Regigigas is resealed in snowpoint temple? When and why?Where is all braille? Why does the 4th column at the enterance not line up with the braille on the face of any regi, not even the new ones?
>>58922335>Regigigas is resealed in snowpoint temple? When and why?
>>58922335but the symbol in the Hall of Origins has no connection to the 18 defeated giants; it links the legendary Pokémon to divine traits related to creation.I wish they had explained Dialga and Palkia's new forms in the game, but they chose to do so on the official website. Lake Trio didn't need more lore. It's Giratina who needs it; I would have liked them to delve deeper into her role before her act of rebellion, as that part has always been confusing and glossed over.Regigigas has been asleep for a very long time; it doesn't surprise me that 150 years before Diamond and Pearl, it's still sealed in Snowpoint Temple. I didn't pay attention to the Temple's decoration in Legends>>58922370Retard
>>58922425Yeah so why can't we get that sigil explained now that it is canon?The only pmyth document that aligns with and the giant story is 5.2 "Aus" where Dragonite, gyarados, and tyranitar are the manifestations of winds, waves, and quakes produced by Rayquaza, Kyogre, and Groudon.Why is regigigas tired in the first place in Arceus Legends that he has slow start? Why was it sealed the first time, much less the second.But look at the braille on the 4th pillar at the entrance, it doesnt even match any regi's braille
>>58922458With all the new legendary Pokémon that have appeared in recent years, it would probably need to be reworked.I mean, why include Tyranitar, Gyrarados, Dragonite, and others when you can include Xerneas or Solgaleo, which have much more significant roles/powers and are considered almost deities?For the same reason that even if Kyurem is captured and freezes the entire forest in Black, it doesn't prevent the events of Black 2. The same applies to Z-A, even though Xerneas or Yveltal is supposed to be captured.
>>58922370ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜNN
>>58922502Xernas(tree of life branches) and yveltal (roots of the tree) are in the same teraleak document.They had x/y legendaries already planned during the 4th gen
>>58920510>>58921917How le silly golem man stronger than Space, Time, and Antimatter?
>>58921414>Because in Legends Arceus, there are already items that can be used to change form and reused it to return to the base form.by which you mean the orbs, which just swap back and forth between two forms. this is intuitive. it would not be intuitive to do this with the plates, because their purpose is to change arceus to a certain type. using it again to remove that type doesn't make sense unless you're already familiar with the series and are assuming normal type Arceus is the default.
>>58920233Regis will always drink with their buds?
i had a dream that there were regis for every type including normal that isn't gigas and normal one was called reginald pronounced like regi-null with emphasis on null
>>58920274
>>58924398lmao
>>58923336he's a giant
