>>58919660
This. Digishit keep on flopping because it take them 8 years to develop new stories game (the only digimon game that kinda sell)

That is a fair point as to why Pokemon is more popular. Doesn't explain why the games are so bad when Kirby games come out almost as often and are just way better in every way that matters. Dragon Quest is also an odd case as they keep releasing expansions to 10 fairly frequently, there's free times for children to play without a subscription, and there's fairly frequent spin-offs as well. Really Final Fantasy is the main outlier because they've dropped the ball on spin-offs since Bravely Default rebranded and shit like Explorers and Type 0 didn't make waves. It's mostly been mobile games and remakes (and mobile remakes) since about then outside of a reasonably successful franchise of rhythm games.

>>58919745
Kirby games from Wii to Switch were all built on the same game engine and re-use a lot of the same assets and code. Obviously this excludes the 3D one but that was likely in development alongside the other games.
Say what you will about Game Freak, and yes they re-use some assets and code for each game, but each generation of Pokemon is very distinct from the last wheras Kirby is built on the same framework every time.

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>>58919660
This is actually an interesting theory.
>>58919732
Shitposting aside, Digimon is a good example. It was in dev hell for so long that its roster doesn't include anything newer than 5 years ago. The game devs can't keep up with the output.

>>58919745
Because Pokemon doesn't only focus on the games. It's a multifaceted attack that encompasses all forms of media. If there's no new game, there's new cards, more anime, and more merch.

Shocking that. Release one game every 10 years and wonder why kids don't form lasting bonds with your shit compared to a series that pumps out a game a year almost, to keep its name and brand in the public consciousness,

>>58919660
Squareenix is a cartoonishly mismanaged company. The bloated budgets and dev cycles are only part of that.

Also helps that Pokemon has a weekly TV series, trading cards, and a fuckton of other merchandise

>>58919931
And this even helps the gooner aspect, Pokemon has a massive hentai fanbase too.

>>58919660
It's more that Square Enix is run by fucking idiots who have more money than sense, everything since XII has been awful, awful messes that take a lifetime to come out.

>>58919778
I'd argue that's more of a failing than anything else. As another example of a series that has been shockingly pumping out a lot of games on the Switch, Xenoblade has been doing it a lot and are working off a modified version of the Wii U title to my understanding. However, aside from Let's Go and SS definitely sharing an engine and LA and SV maybe sharing one possibly with zero real evidence, they've been heavily re-working how the games even operate a lot lately. I think this is an Ohmori problem more than anything, Masuda was less afraid to iterate less and I understand Gen 6 was just so ass that they probably wanted to get out from under it as much as possible for SM, but given how SM's development was a nightmare and SS being based off Let's Go didn't help much I don't even know if there's a good solution aside from sitting down and making a solid transferable engine much like the Kirby games from Return to Dreamland to Star Allies did (an engine they still got even more out of between Kirby Fighters 2 and the remake of the first game listed). At least they had the sense to have Creatures Inc. make base textures and quad models in the first place, even when they have to change lighting engines constantly (or in the case of the 3DS titles, had to fuck around with the base textures directly).

>>58919745
>Doesn't explain why the games are so bad
Because if the mainline games already sell a guaranteed 15 million copies by default, why put in additional effort and investment unless it doubles or even triples that guarantee? You don't make a profit turn by spending money once you're as big as Pokemon, you make profit by pinching pennies at every conceivable corner.

>>58919660
Is that Dragon Quest? Not some AI slop?
How could you look at that shit and at the same time say the release windows are the problem?

>>58919745
Kirby games are NOT coming out yearly.
That's also why the kiddies are hooked on gacha and f2p shit. Because they're a constant. Ever relevant.
The last mainline DQ was nearly a fucking decade ago.
There was nearly a decade between XV and XVI.
VII Remake is gonna take a decade and like three generation of consoles to get finished.
Someone who got into FF or DQ when they were finishing elementary school with the latest release went through of middle and high school without getting a brand new game.
Genshin's been going for six years. In that same time period, back then, we got FF7 to 10.
This is an industry-wide issue by the way. Development cycles are FUCKED all over the board. When was it that TESVI got announced again?
And not even Nintendo is safe from this. Odyssey is close to hitting the full decade too.
People are graduating from college, getting married, and getting kids in the time period between entries of games. It's super silly.
You can't even say it's just the kiddies getting hooked on gacha and f2p shit, grown-asses are too, if not even harder since they're the ones who can truly spend money on those.

>>58919660
Final fantasy 7 came out in 1997, Kingdom Hearts in 2002. In that timespan, FF7, 8, 9 and 10 came out. A single one of those games, developed today from scratch, even with the exact same visuals, would require several years, there's an incompetency crisis among developers everywhere, it's not only gamefreak

>>58919660
All the DQ releases since 11 or Builders 2 are differently bad compared to Pokemon's garbage

>>58919745
>when Kirby games come out almost as often
How often? It's been years since the first 3D Kirby and the last remake was from a now dead company

>>58920140
The dorks running Shueisha, Capsule Corp Tokyo, and the estate of Toriyama decided to slap his name onto everything, even things he didn't solely make.
Also they're planning to do AIslop on future stuff if you haven't saw the 40th Anniversary Dragon Ball video

Pokémon is popular for a number of reasons, and the reasons themselves have changed over the years based on where the franchise is at in its life and what's going on in the actual world. But I think what has made it easier to get into is just how organized it is as a multimedia franchise, how everything synergizes and is relatively consistent compared to any other franchise. Accessible games on the most affordable consoles, most games being treated as a soft reset so nearly any can be a good first game, a TV anime (less relevant over time like TV itself), a TCG, movies (also less relevant over time like going to a theater), music, merchandise, collaborations, spin-offs, apps, and all of it manages to be just new enough of an experience while advertising content that is the current focus of the franchise. And the franchise is old enough that it can openly sell nostalgia AS nostalgia in addition to selling new stuff.

Regardless of any decline in quality from a critical perspective, any other franchise would kill to have Pokémon's level of franchise coordination and organization.

>>58920150
>2010
epic yarn
>2011
mass attack & return to dream land
>2012
dream collection
>2013
-
>2014
triple deluxe, fighters deluxe, drum dash deluxe
>2015
rainbow curse
>2016
planet robobot
>2017
team kirby clash deluxe, blowout blast, battle royale
>2018
star allies
>2019
extra epic yarn, super kirby clash
>2020
fighters 2
>2021
-
>2022
forgotten land, dream buffet
>2023
return to dream land deluxe
>2024
-
>2025
star crossed world, air riders

a kirby game releases almost every year, usually multiple. the only reason i think they even missed 2024 is because the switch 2 was delayed and based off the staff of the expansion having alot of people who left the company recently it was likely done far before the switch 2 released, i wouldnt have been surprised if it was even originally free dlc for the switch 1 at some point akin to star allies updates

pokemon might literally be the only franchise left doing yearly releases

>>58920942
If you count spin-offs, yes. I think the only games in 2024 were the Mochi Mayhem DLC and TCG Pocket.
Though if you count spin-offs, Mario always has at least one or two games a year.

>>58920942
What about CoD

>>58919660
i work with children and they only "legacy" franchises they recognize and like a Mario, Sonic and Pokémon, everything else is roblox or a game called free fire. This article seems right on the money to me

>>58919745
>when Kirby games come out almost as often and are just way better in every way that matters.
Kirby has been shit after return to dreamland tho

>>58921332
Screw you

Games like Star Allies and Air Riders are great

Pokemon was never good

>>58921344
>Star Allies
quite literally the most brain dead and souless of the nu kirby games

>>58919850
>its roster doesn't include anything newer than 5 years ago
This. NuDigishit is even worst compared to earlier gens than with Pokemon. Fucking overcomplicated designs filled with gundams, gijinka and powercreep longnamed horseshit out the wazoo, Digimon is an embarrasing shitpile.

>>58920255
I thought the vid was just some Live 2D-esque animation

>>58920448
3/4 of your list is spin-offs, remakes and remasters.
I know this sounds like cope, and like a >d-doesn't count, but the average person doesn't give a single shit about those. People, normal average common people, only care about mainline.
I mean, look no further than this very same franchise. Look at how poorly Pokemon spin-offs sell compared to the gorillions the mainlines sell.
Like, FF and DQ have been pumping out remakes and remasters and spin-offs all these years, but they're still in that very same situation and even some of those are still suffering from the massively long cycles. VII Remake is a prime example of that. DQ3 remake took three fucking years between announcement and coming out, taking so long people joked 12 was gonna come out first.

>>58921439
ok. all im saying is they release some kind of game every year, thats how they operate. its a yearly franchise. anyway the next mainline kirby game is probably coming this year tracking with how long forgotten land was in development remember this because im right

>>58921471
And I'm telling that yearly mainline =/= yearly smaller things.

>>58921439
also im not denying you here at all but the recent few side kirby games have been selling better than the series' side games ever really has before so i think calling things like rtdldx and air riders spinoffs nobody cares about isnt really accurate, theyre basically on pace with how the mainline titles tend to sell, im not gonna deny you on like the eshop crap or like rainbow curse/battle royale or whatever though :P

>>58921479
well in that case then like no nintendo series has ever been a yearly franchise

>>58919660
>the bad recent releases
But that's subjective.

>>58919732
No they keep flopping because Pokemon puts effort into to being more than a standard JRPG and Digimon does not.
What Pokemon is doing right is that they're putting their eggs in the baskets that matter.
Digimon apparently "looks better" and "has story"(?) but Time Stranger simply isn't a game that's more than a JRPG, so what was all of that dev time for? So that shitters online can look at it like art? It's a game. A shiny hunting video generates more buzz that whatever the fuck Time Strangers story was, or any story from a Digimon game for that matter (besides Survive but you all hated that). So what was the dev hell for?
Pokemon has always implemented things that made you look at it as something more than a bog standard JRPG.
"Story" doesn't matter, how many polygons doesn't matter. Is it fun? Does it generate buzz/content? Is it a game? That is what has always made them successful.
This is Nintendo vs everyone else all over again. People thought that Nintendo was lazy when they were actually the only ones doing the shit that mattered. Meanwhile DQ, FF, Digi are going into dev hell to make a polygon slightly more round instead of trying to differentiate from each other, or for gods sake make something beyond Combat + Story.
Pokemon is working smarter. And it paid off because game engines became unnecessarily complicated because of people who should be going to art museums instead of playing games.

>>58921106
Ubisoft said that they would stop annual releases after 7. And even then, I feel this is a fucking lie.

We had like 6 DQ games released the last 3 year.
Let me guess," the users" is a squaresoft tranny that only play Chrono trigger and FF4,7-10?

>>58921514
Calm down, buddy. TPC doesn't need their balls sucked that hard, they have hoes for it.
Besides, anyone believing Gamefreak or Nintendo is putting the work is simply blind to reality.
They aren't "better" because they offer "a better experience". They have been selling the same game since they were created, only difference is that they add one or two gimmicks, and call it a day.
Sure, spin offs can be profitable, and a place of exploration, but we all know that Pokémon is relevant the same way McDonalds is relevant: is the bottom line, and everybody knows it. They no longer have to try, just release something acceptable, and sit while money prints itself.

>>58920448
Nobody gives a fuck about Kirby, it is a simple, low budget series that manages to be succesful enough to keep going because of the low production cost. The games are all the same besides a core gimmick

>>58921655
pokemon is a simple low budget series that manages to be successful with a low production cost, the games are all the same besides a core gimmick

/vp/ really is full of some low iq ass niggers

>>58921586
>Calm down, buddy. TPC doesn't need their balls sucked that hard, they have hoes for it.
My bad retard let me put on my vp sheep hat: poikemon bad, number oine media franchise and idk y bc i am smoothbrain jk its everyone else i cannot make game or play only look. Better?
>Besides, anyone believing Gamefreak or Nintendo is putting the work is simply blind to reality.
So you're illiterate bc that's not what I said. I said they don't put in any work on things that don't matter. The only time you all glaze digimon for graphical quality IS to compare it to Pokemon and you dont realize that Pokemon still becomes relevant from that. You'll never make Pokemon as irrelevant as you want it to be like that.
>They aren't "better" because they offer "a better experience".
That's exactly what "better" means. So, yes. Yes they are.
>Pokémon is relevant the same way McDonalds is relevant: is the bottom line
Except for your fav gen right? Tell me when it became the McDonalds of video games.
>and everyone knows it
Only you and the youtubers you get your talking points from