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These games are not good, but I think they might be the most fun games for switch to play long term with a forever save
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Agreed, plass is a shit tech demo and scatvom is shovelware empty slop

ZA is decent but not enough
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>>58923438
i think if SV didnt make you wait 10 seconds for PC sprites to load, chug like a bitch, and look like a roblox tycoon it may have a chance, but the game just feels so horrid to play
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>>58923346
I think they're good because I had fun with them.
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Trvke!
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>>58923438
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>>58923453
You guys pick the weirdest things to bitch about. I had fun with both swsh and sv despite a few seldomly noticed flaws. I try to play enjoy the game instead of nitpick and hyper-fixate on every minor issue. You should try it, sometime.
That being said, open world 3D pokemon games just kinda suck. Bdsp's 2.5D top down view should be the standard for new gen pokemon games in my opinion.
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>>58923923
Yeah I'm sure if you consciously ignore the flaws in every shitty game, you'll have fun.

But that besides, having fun =/= a good game. You can have fun with something bad.
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>>58924054
It's not so much as ignoring as it's not actively looking for issues. I hear so much shit talked about vanilla FO4, yet it's my all time favorite. It's got it's quirks, sure, but I've never had it crash completely or effect progression. I've got reason to believe most bad opinions we see are someone else's opinion and retards parroting them without having played the game.
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>>58923346
>I think they might be the most fun games for switch to play long term with a forever save
youre right, but ill go a step further and say thats what does actually make them good games. why do i care if the first 15 hours are mid if the subsequent 500 are great?
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>>58924054
100% agree, a flaw is a flaw, but I can still have fun with most games besides that. Being subject to the autistic wombo combo of being a fan of both Pokémon and Sonic, if I couldn't have fun playing bad games, I'd be perpetually miserable. I can honestly say I enjoy playing every main series Pokémon game, but I'm not going to pretend any of them are perfect paragons of quality.

>>58924073
>I've got reason to believe most bad opinions we see are someone else's opinion and retards parroting them without having played the game.
It's the content machine that does it. Streamers and youtubers get more attention and therefore money by being negative, mainstream media has known this since the beginning, but it's easier to not interact with it than it is in online niches. It's precisely why you see video thumbnails with little more than a character looking sad or shocked and "IT'S BAD".

There are legitimate critiques of the games they "review", but they hyperbolize flaws and negative aspects to drive up engagement. People see these videos, decide the game is shit from that video alone, and parrot an opinion that isn't theirs when asked why they don't like it. "Just let people enjoy things" went from being a legitimate "live and let live" attitude to something only braindead shills or paypigs would say.
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>>58923346
really frustrating they didnt just patch in the remaining pokemon, i dont get why, it was literally all the same 3ds models
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>>58923923
>weirdest things
how is bad framerate and terrible visuals weird to complain about?
The whole game plays like I'm moving in slow motion, I never got used to the raidon either so the whole game just feels rly clunky and unresponsive in a way that no other pokemon game does.
If the simple act of operating the menus feels like shit, then the game will never be enjoyable regardless



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