This mentally scarred and traumatized an entire generation of fans.
>>58924657Their fault for buying ORAS
>Me thinking that it was a prelude to DLC>Got SM insteadWorst timeline
>>58924684>just wait for Z for Kalos to be complete>just wait for DLC for Hoenn's Battle Frontier>just wait for a patch for fixing Alola's cutscenes and multiplayer>just wait for 2019 for the Pokémon game for veteransSo much good will was eroded and there's still no hope.
>All of that Zygarde>recycled for SM>the Pokèmon Z we got after 13 years is the worst game of the franchise, even worse than SVWhy do people defend this garbage? You can still love the creatures and the old games
>>58924821Fixed
>>58924924>>58925001>white knighting the billion dollar company>slinging names at the wrong anonsSomeone's a little butthurt and alone today.
>>58925011sagefag has always been a kneejerk label when yawnfag’s shitposting became too obvious anyway this thread is shit
>>58924924Pokémon was never good.
>>58925001>Nobody gives a fuck about Battle Frontier, HGSS had it copypasted from Platinum but I-IT'S OK WHEN THE DS ERA DOES IT BECAUSE IT JUST IS!!What's the problem with it? HGSS still has it, ORAS doesn't
>>58925038>HGSS lazily pastes the Battle Frontier from Platinum = LE GOOD :O>ORAS lazily pastes the Battle Maison from XY = LE BAD >:O
I just dont understand why you wouldnt add it when you let everyone actually ev train Pokémon now and you have megas. Battle frontier is like holy Pokémon Disneyland and it only exists in emerald
>>58924657It made us lose faith in ever getting a good game again, yes.
>>58925038Considering the alternatives would have either been omitting battle facilities altogether because "Gold and Silver didn't have any" or only having a Battle Tower to be faithful to Crystal, they definitely made the right choice.
>>58925058Prove that the maison offers as much as the frontier
>>58925503The Maison offers five types of proper battlesThe Frontier offers one type of proper battle and four shitty gimmicks that DStards pretend to care about
>>58924657Battle frontier was trash anyway so they didn't missed much
>>58924657Postgamefags are a blight
Does not having a part of postgame content really invalidate ORAS that much? Or is it just autismos making an excuse to complain about it?How about the remake itself?
>>58925628>>58925628I liked the battle factory because trying to see how far you can go with random mons is fun. Battle Hall is okay and at least unique.
>>58924657Barely anyone gave a shit about the Battle Frontier. They were right to cut it.
Counter-point: They had autistically and derangedly attached themselves and their psyches to a kid's IP to the point when it continued to do it's "Kid's IP" shtick by re-selling older games to current gen, as they had with FRLG and HGSS before them, they were unable to accept their place in the fanbase as an adult fan. And thus got what they deserved.
>>58924657>TraumatizedDo people just not get mad anymore?
>>58924821>unironically defending dexcutThe artist that made this is a brainwashed troon
>>58925691>Secret Bases finally usable thanks to Online connection>STILL the best Online system in the series>Modified Legendary Lore>Region design ties even more beautifully with said lore>Soaring so now you can literally travel across the land sea and skyORAS offers quite a bit more than Emerald except for that one thing. It just would've been the perfect Pokemon game had it kept the BF. And maybe added trainer customization.
>>58926021>ORAS offers quite a bit more than EmeraldFINALLY someone here says the truth.
>>58924657>This mentally scarred and traumatized an entire generation of autists.Ftfy.Sane people prefer ORAS over Emerald and don't care about the Battle Frontier, considering the Battle Maison exists in its place.
battle factory with megas would have been so fucking cool bros i hate gamefreak so much
>>58926149>considering the Battle Maison exists in its place.Battle Maison>Contains Single Battles, Double Battles, Triple Battles, Rotation Battles, and Multi BattlesBattle Frontier>Battle Tower: Contains Single Battles, Double Battles, and Multi Battles>Battle Factory: Random Single Battles>Battle Arena: Graded Single Battles>Battle Dome: Single Battle Tournament>Battle Pike: Roguelike Single Battles (before roguelikes were a thing)>Battle Palace: Single Battles but bad>Battle Pyramid: Exploring a dungeon while battlingI don't know. The Battle Frontier has more to do, even if it is variations of Single Battles.
>>58927173It really sucks that gen 5 was rushed and had to cut the BF for casuals who would rather use their phones
>>58927186>gen 5 out of nowhererent free
Ok but it’s not like you even played the battle maison
>>58924821Anyone who hates on the content of the ultra game is so clearly not ensouled and must be thrown into the goymines
>>58927195>responding to the thread 6 hours later without bumping it out of nowhererent free
>>58924821I like how this image has to pretend that XY/ORAS didn’t have better reception than gen 5
>>58925836>NOOOOOO I CAN'T USE MUH HECKIN STANTLERINOmeanwhile you still love Unova
>battle rontierboring slop
>>58927403>unova has every pokemon as of 2010 programmed into the games>galar does not have every pokemon as of 2019 programmed into the games
>>58927422is Spiky-Eared Pichu programmed into BW?
>>58927435No. But Pichu is. And it's better than the Spiky-Eared Pichu by being able to evolve into Pikachu and Raichu, actually being usable as a result.
>>58927455Glad you agree that not all Pokémon are programmed into BW.Glad you agree that some Pokémon are unusable and have no reason to exist.
>>58927464But Stantler is perfectly usable. Fan demand was so prevalent that Game Freak caved in and not only added it to Legends Arceus and SV, but also gave it an evolution in Wyrdeer.
>>58927469>gamefreak caved in to StantlerfagsKEEEEEEEEEEEEEK YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS
>>58927469you're supposed to larp as an unovafag, this isn't about stantler, it's about BW, he is obsessed
>>58927471>all caps ragei win
>>58927481>rageI'm laughing at you, Sagefag Shitpants
>>58924657I never bought another game after this happened, it killed my enthusiasm
>>58927874same but with the BF being cut in BW
>>58927469>stantler get an evo in a legends spinoff>its a slow frail mixed attacking shitmon with a worthless signature move>its a regional evo and not a real cross gen so you can’t even get it outside of pla>farigiraf does everything that wyrdeer does but better while also being an actual cross gen evolution GF actively hate stantler and its fans,
>58927477(stantlertroon)>bw out of nowhere rent free genwarfag
>>58924657>gen 6 finally gave us easy ways to get 31IVs and EV train>gen 6 stopped giving us any sort of challenging post game to actually use these minmax mons in
>>58927896>out of nowherewe're discussing the BF being cut and I brought up the first game that started the trend of the BF being gone from the serieshope this helps
>>58927930Gen 6 was the first gen where online battles were hard pushed. They wanted you to play against other people.
>>58927930the battle maison has plenty of challenge
>>58927936That was DP. If you're talking about just general lack of battle facilities yeah BW doesn't have much but B2W2 has about the same amount as the Gen 4 one (quality of really any iteration nonwithstanding, Battle Palace should count against Emerald personally). The best we got after that was USUM having bad Battle Factory which is something at least.>>58927954I don't respect any format with an easy cheese strat, and unfortunately Battle Maisons formats basically all have a cheese strat. I'm willing to blame part of this on B2W2 introducing True Ant and providing the AI no out, but between that not being fixed and FEAR being added it's just not great. I guess you could play like a retard to get some challenge out of it but that's what the main game is already for and ORAS satisfies that urge well enough because Hoenn is well designed.
>>58927973>but B2W2 has about the same amount as the Gen 4 one
>>58924657An entire generation of fans who never actually played the original battle frontier.
>>58927976>Battle Tower clone in the form of Battle Subway>Pokestar Studios is just Battle Sims>Black Tower/White Treehollow are just a variation on Battle Pyramid/Trainer TowerIf you only count the PWT as one then the Battle Institute despite being kinda dogshit puts it at the same amount of different buildings as the Gen 4 version. I dunno if I'd count the Battle Institute, so having one less is still about the same amount and less of a decrease than the decrease from Emerald to Platinum. On the other hand, Rental PWT is so different compared to every other PWT format because it's just bad Battle Factory. If you include the Download tournaments (which are trivial to obtain if you're playing on anything newer than a DS Lite and relatively easy if not) you can throw in a format similar to Japanese Pokemon Stadium 2's Nintendo Cups (not to be confused with our Pokemon Stadium 2 which is GS for them, or our version of Japanese Pokemon Stadium 2 having none of those formats for some reason). Type Expert is a novel enough team building exercise that it justifies itself well enough over the rather simplistic Battle Institute as something worthwhile to play. Hell, Type Expert alone is more interesting for team building than the entirety of the Battle Maison formats. But if you do want to say the Battle Institute doesn't count, I'm willing to agree as it and the very similar Gen 6 restaurants just feel extremely mediocre and don't offer distinct enough gameplay.
>>58928009>Pokestar Studios is just Battle Sims>Black Tower/White Treehollow are just a variation on Battle Pyramid/Trainer Tower>thinking the PWT counts for anything
>>58927976>>58928023>no argument, just greentext and pepe spamI accept your concession. Thank you for admitting defeat.
>>58928023How is the format that is about solving for either a prescribed solution or a unique problem not the same as the format that is about solving for either a prescribed solution or a unique problem?How is the format about navigation and resource management not the same type of thing as the formats about navigation and resource management?Type Expert PWT alone provides more engaging content than the Battle Maison by virtue of having to understand the strengths and weaknesses of Pokemon of a certain type in comparison with each other as opposed to just spamming two different strategies. It also creates better variety than the Battle Dome or Battle Hall, being the closest functional equivalent just looking at them and being more about risk management (which in the Dome's case sort of overlaps with Battle Pike which sort of hybridizes that and Battle Pyramid's resource management). And if anyone is counting the Battle Palace for anything then I get to count at least one PWT format. Even if you hate every default tournament, playing against lobotomized versions of actual real world Pokemon teams that actually went to and in at least one case per division won the World Championship has to count for something. That's more legitimate than International Crystal Level 10 Battle Tower that gets rolled over by Aerodactyl.
>>58927973>I don't respect any format with an easy cheese strat, and unfortunately Battle Maisons formats basically all have a cheese stratSrs do you think beating Battle Frontier bullshit is some “skill intensive thing that makes you good at Pokemon”? The enemies all use sets designed to steal wins with RNG to waste your time so you have to start over and you can’t even change your lead so there’s a shitload of outright luck
>>58928114Yes, because good teambuilding can mitigate the effects of some of the RNG without reducing the skill level required to get long streaks. In comparison, the Battle Maison (and Gen 5 singles as well as International Crystal Level 10 Battle Tower) have AI quirks that completely shut down any potential challenge simply by bringing certain Pokemon (FEAR Aron, True Ant, Aerodactyl). Not all formats are created equal of course, the ones with more skill expression tend to be better, and that usually happens because there's something other than just battling which is why a Battle Frontier is better than just a Battle Tower clone. It's also why the Battle Palace is the worst, even when you go in with a team tailor made to take advantage of the format it comes down to chance. About the only remote exception is the Battle Factory which is extremely RNG dependent but also extremely skill intensive due to limited options forcing you to adapt.
>>58928052>no argument, just insisting things that aren't battle facilities are battle facilities
