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Was this really necessary?
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yes u nigger
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>>58929113
Be more specific…!
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>>58929113
It is clear they were testing their skills with more depth/3D in a map in preparations for BW.
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>>58929113
Yes and yes to the last time you made this retarded thread for whatever
There is nothing wrong with anything in that shit you posted
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Please dont become a new recurrent schizopost
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>>58929150
What's necessary about it? Were people begging for Johto to have a pointless route leading to a shitty Safari Zone no one asked for? Nothing would've changed if this route didn't exist
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>>58929113
You just posted kino
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>>58929113
Yeah, bro. I loved it. How could you not?
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Sevii Islands and the few new Johto parts are cool obscure areas
Also the new johto areas make grinding easier
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Unironically my most memorable route in johto. It really feels like a cliff edge.
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>>58929113
This is unironically my favorite route in HGSS. It also has probably my favorite route theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfsm01nKoe8

I also like that it lets you play with Larvitar and Murkrow before the post-game.
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>>58929113
No. But damn is it beautiful.
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>>58929424
>I also like that it lets you play with Larvitar and Murkrow before the post-game.
Whoever decided these two should be Mt.silver exclusives in the originals should be waterboarded
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Not necessary. But when you make a game with only necessary elements you end up with a bland uninteresting title. Sometimes you have to do something a little extra that's fun instead of a soulless empty room to put a single item or encounter in.
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>>58929113
>small hidden grass patch that requires a later hm
>no unique pokemon in it
I guess if you really wanted to farm metal powder for your ditto that's your best spot. Such a cool route doe
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>>58929113
Most things in life aren’t necessary.
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>>58929418
>>58929424
Jesus fucking christ, you guys will defend anything. This route sucked ass. HGSS in particular had a bad habit of inserting random bullshit into the game and this is no exception. See also the Battle Frontier, which is even worse since we already played through that shit in Platinum. No one wanted Johto to have a new route, gtfo with that shit
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>>58929603
Ah, autistically ranting about something nobody else minds.
Classic!
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>having more content is LE BAD
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>>58929677
If it adds nothing to the game, it is bad
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>>58929697
it adds a comfy cliffside, the best route theme in the series, a way to get steelix without trading, a way to get misdreavus in the main story, and young couple duff & eda aka the onix and cloyster trainers
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>>58929697
>safari zone adds nothing to the game
>out-of-the-way location for Ditto adds nothing to the game
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>>58929717
>muh comfy
>best route theme in the series
Not true, it's lame
>a way to get steelix without trading
Didn't need to create a new route for this
>a way to get misdreavus in the main story
Same as above
>young couple duff & eda aka the onix and cloyster trainers
So none of this shit is specific to THIS route, since they could've moved it to any route, except for the stupid music and muh comfy aesthetics that add nothing to the gameplay or experience
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not going to like it reminded me of ED theme to Gurren Lagann. I'm not joking, you'll find the notes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jJpDvOrT8

do they still make players guide in two volumes now, one for the game and the other the pokedex?
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>>58929113
Yes. It added a new route not only with new encounter tables and new items, but also a location for the postgame Weather Trio events. It's also not an issue because you can Fly to the safari zone after you go once, and if you think more content is bad, then you're part of the problem.


>>58929603
HGSS is an improvement on GSC in every single way. You couldn't pay me to go back to the originals after playing the remakes. They're just that much better.
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>>58929603
>HGSS in particular had a bad habit of inserting random bullshit into the game and this is no exception.
It's a completely optional path that does very little to get in your way. I see nothing wrong with adding such content.
>See also the Battle Frontier, which is even worse since we already played through that shit in Platinum.
Imagine complaining about the INCLUSION of the Battle Frontier when this was the last time it ever showed up. I'd pay extra for modern Pokémon games to have the type of content each facility offered. Then again, I wouldn't wanna pay for the maingame they offer to begin with...
>No one wanted Johto to have a new route, gtfo with that shit
What causes people to think like this? Childhood abuse?
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Bait used to be believable…
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No but that's why it's great.
They could've left the Safari Zone out since it was cut and abolished in original GS. But instead they brought it back with a new route and new music.
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doing ONLY what's absolutely necessary is what's ruining pokemon
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You get free Steelix there
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>>58929113
That cave in the bottom right is the place you go to catch Kyogre or Groudon, right? I'm not sure if I was just there for such a short time that it made no impact on me, or if I just never got around to catching the legendary there, but I can't remember it even slightly.
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>>58929113
Necessary?
No.
Great? Yes.
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>>58929113
>3 cliffs
half life 3 confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95qvqkf4EqE
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>>58929113
Gosh, those old Pokémon games are so soulful.
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>>58930506
It's the one on the left, which leads to the Embedded Tower. Groudon and Kyogre will only appear once you get the Red/Blue Orb from Mr. Pokemon, and he will only give that to you once you get a Kanto starter from Professor Oak, who will make them available after you first defeat Red on Mt. Silver.

Show Professor Oak both a Groudon and a Kyogre caught at the Embedded Tower (met location must be there, and origin game must be HGSS) and he'll give you the Jade Orb, which makes Rayquaza appear at the Embedded Tower.



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