Is there a more nonsensical Pokemon design? I genuinely can’t think of one outside of maybe M-Feraligatr
Decidueye is the only Pokemon whose design is so inconsistent it requires switching between two wing models with completely different anatomy just to use a "bow" that physically cannot work as it has no real tension. The Hisuian is no better as its wings change length upon switching states as well. It's a complete failure of a design.
She ain't nonsensical just fat
>>58933728>https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonanime/comments/1r5jq3k/a_hopefully_final_word_on_ann_samurott_and_the/
>>58933737Xhe was so nonsensical xhe got regionally replaced
>58933728OP can't move his lardass outside, he has to keep the same thread up as call for help
>>58933732Isn’t the wing thing just how bird pokemon are animated?
>>58933748the regional replacement only got less fat doe
>OP
>>58933728Slowbro has some explaining to do.
>>58933893*mega Slowbro
>>58933728The one time I can agree with you retarded faggots. Doesn't look like an otter, doesn't look like a samurai. It doesn't look like anything. If I didn't know what the intent was I'd guess it's... a sea lion? Maybe with a reference to some meme ocean parasite, or barnacles/coral? I'd be curious to see what African bushmen who never even heard of Pokemon would think of it.
>>58934059>Its not a straight up copypaste traced animalmon so it sucks!!
>>58934077>It doesn’t make sense and it doesn’t clearly convey its point so it sucks!!Correct.
>>58934092>It's not a lazy cartoon animal so it doesn't make sense
>>58934059I don’t care about the animal amalgamation, it’s moreso the quadrupedal swordsman thing that looks off. I also think it’s top-heavy so it seems like it’ll fall on its face if you push it from the back. The point of balance doesn’t look good when the sword is out as well, so any swing it makes doesn’t seem like it’ll output enough force, particularly since the sword looks more like a bludgeoning tool than something sharp like with Gallade.
>>58934149>the design contradicts its theme so it doesn’t make senseCorrect.
>>58934077Digimon doesn't have a problem with readable monster designs that don't draw from real world animals. This thing's two prior forms are both obviously otters, it's in all three stages' fucking names, and then you get this mess. Go be a dumbass jeet somewhere else.
>>58933728Because you can't have a quadrupedal Sword wielding creature, the anatomy doesn't work for that.Even in the anime you can clearly see how awkward it looks when Samurott has to move around or cut something with their swords .
>>58933728He'd be the worst water starter if the fagduck didn't exist.
>>58934092>>58934158thats not what he said
>>58934219Wonder if it's because jp likes unova or the samurai theme pandering to them, Samurott seems more popular there.But at the same time Inteleon is quite unpopular here in the west, so in western polls Samurott destroys both Inteleon and Quaquaval easily.
>>58934354If samurott was popular in Japan it would have gotten mega instead of getting regionally replaced
>>58934361Counterpoint: Emboar
>>58934361By popular I meant more popular than here.And megas don't necessarily go to the most popular pokemon. For example, in the 2021 poll (mostly japanese votes) Samurott got more votes than Emboar, Meganium and Feraligatr.
>>58934369>>58934407never respond to the "regional replacement" schizo, it's forced meme bait
>>58933732>onlyLunala and M-Feraligatr also have separate lengths of wing/arm models switched out and used for animations. Pretty sure there are other mons that do this. Any pokemon that switches to a specific “phase” in an animation does this to an extent, with pieces of its model.
>>58934423Primarina and M-Darkrai do this. >>58933728 also does it, with separate sword models larger than its legs when it removes them from its sheathes.
>>58934423>>58934428I wouldn't count Primarina or Mega Darkrai at allthey have separate models for animation, but they're not deforming their anatomy which is the point that post was trying to make - they're just a necessary step in animating something that requires different meshes to keep up appearances as opposed to the design itself outright changing - something like Swanna would be a better example since it has to change its wing structure to give off the sassy bent finger lookMega Feraligatr absolutely is guilty though
>>58934420no non-Kanto Pokmon that got a regional is popular.
>>58933728At least it looks like it could have been a Gen 1/2 pokemon and not the waifu/bara trash you hornball incels need to get your needle dicks off on.
>>58934449nobody tell this anon how popular samurott is with waifu and barafags alike
>>58934449>At least it looks like it could have been a Gen 1/2 pokemon Clearly not since it's a jobmon and not a lame cartoon animal like rattata or butterfree
>>58934456i want to stick my dick in a wigglytuff, that doesn't make it a waifumon
>>58934456Barafags I get, but why waifufags?
>>58934456But that would go against his autistic narrative
>>58934470activates the almonds of muscle mommy and BBWfags, doesn't help that it was referred to as the den mother of the starter trio in official gamefreak interviewsalso it's a mustelid, for whatever reason mustelidmons attract perverts from all crowds
>>58934470
>>58934166>Retard needs a neon flashing light to tell them what a creature isStop it, get help
>>58934443no non-Kanto Pokmon that got a mega is popular
>>58934461if samurott was made in gen 1 it would be a generic cartoon seal named "Seel"
>>58934449If serious, you are delusional and stupid.>>58934461>>58935518The Gen1 equivalent of Shitmurott is fucking Blastoise. The whole point of it being so different from its previous forms is doing a homage to the Blastoise line. It is yet another thing from Gen5 that was negatively affected by Masuda caring more about the concept than the execution.
>>58936375masuda had nothing to do with the design and samurott was made before the other two stages in its line so there was nothing to be "different" from
>>58936381>masuda had nothing to do with the designMasuda was the director of BW and admittedly had more control over it than any other game in the series. IIRC, it was also him that suggested to make a pokémon based on McDonald's McFlurry and appointed Turdner to do it.Point is, he should have been a better director and have Ohmura redesign Samurott or appointed someone else to do the job instead of just giving it the okay because the concept was interesting.>Verification is not required.
>>58934461>not a lame cartoon animal like rattata or butterfreeNOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T CALL MUH SANCTIFIED KANTOMONS CARTOON ANIMALS THAT'S ONLY FOR NU-GEN UNMONS LIKE PYROAR AND PALAFIN NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>58936419Or keep Samurott without forcing the samurai theme like that
>>58934482>>58934809>>58934456muscle mommies deserve a femboy that teases them
>>58937888nice
>>58934809Samurott but she's very fat.
>>58938710So regular Samurott?
>>58939296I mean REALLY fat.As in kind of a blob but not too blobby. Same for Primarina.
>>58933728zygarde
>>58935071garchomplucarioabsolhoenn starterssalamencemetagrossheracrossrayquazascizorchandelureand so on
>>58933728Rillaboom
Cool Pokemon :)
>>58941022Yeah
I just think the fact that it's meant to be a quadrupede swordman is retarded. You have a few other quadrupedes who do use "swords" but it's basically just a horn, and in Zacian's case it's holding it in its maw which is already a little less dumb.I look at this guy and I'm just wondering how it's mean to swing its swords around? Why does it even have two? Physically it doesn't even seem like it could ever hold both at the same time, it's just too front heavy, its back legs are too short and stumpy to move around while swinging them, that's implying it can balance itself on them at all. Why would it even go through the trouble of using a sword anyways when it has this bigass horn? Its body seems much more adapted at ramming its head into a foe to impale them. It's all very weird, the design lacks direction imo. They would have been better off making it stand on two legs like its pre evos
>>58942268It’s based on the quickdraw style, which requires the tool and pocket.And Unova already has Keldeo so they had to make it more unique
>>58934449>not the waifu/bara trash you hornball incels need to get your needle dicks off on.>he doesn't knowlmfaoAlso I'm not a virgin so we can talk about sex if you want it so badly. But do you have any experience yourself?>>58934482>it was referred to as the den mother of the starter trio in official gamefreak interviewsAny pointers? I'd like to see those interviews
>>58942417>based on the quickdraw styleThat has always been nothing but damage control.
>>58943296Maybe damage control from GF themselves too then.Samurott's newer animations seem to be more based on that.>>58942268In the anime they had Samurott use both its swords and the horn for some kind of triple sword style. Kinda cool but silly.
>>58942592http://web.archive.org/web/20151022192841/http://contests-club.1up.com/news/how-pokemon-get-made>A lot of thought goes into the starter Pokemon and their respective roles, as you'd expect. "Out of the first three Pokemon, we eventually decided that Tsutaja [the Grass type] would be the 'cool' one and Mijumaru [the Water type] would be the 'cute' one," Lee said. "Pokabu wound up being more of the 'sidekick' sort -- clumsy but lovable. He gradually evolves and matures into something a lot more reliable as you play, so it makes the effort to raise him seem pretty worth it, I think.">As for Mijumaru and his evolutions, designer Yusuke Ohmura decided to make him the 'den mother' figure looking over the other two starters.>"I envisioned something that could get in between those two and stop them whenever they got in a fight," he said.
>>58943335>damage control from GF themselves tooYes. Everything before gen6's game animations showed Samurott using two swords at the same time. None of them thought of iaijutsu until then.
>>58943338Thank you, anon.
When I saw it for the first time when I was a kid I cried as a crybaby.Oshawott is my favorite starter and BW is my favorite Pokémon. For me, It's a fucking crime.
>>58934449>At least it looks like it could have been a Gen 1/2 pokemonthere isn’t a single gen 1/2 Pokemon that’s quadruped for no reason.
>>58933728Is this the only pokemon in the series who's general reception changed for the worst?
>>58944995samurott's literally only gotten more positive reception over the years especially thanks to the hisuian formit was always controversial getting hate now is nothing new
>>58944859cool neither is samurott
>>58945001Only really from the east desu
>>58945006What’s the point of Samurott being quadruped when it needs to use handheld tools to attack?
>>58945013What? Japs have always liked the Oshawott line more than the west. This image isn't just super rare, it's fucking unique- and yet, it's still more positive than negative.
>>58945028It doesn't it can use hydro pump or its horn
>>58945061>It doesn't
>>58945061Ignore it. It's obviously trying to start a disingenous "argument" where it will keep saying things that are obviously wrong so you always have a reason to reply and get more and more annoyed at it. Don't take the bait.>Verification is not required.
>>58945076Shit- that was meant for >>58945065.
>>58945065Oh so it can use its swords just fine too what's the problem then
>>58945167>Oh so it can use its swords just fine
>>58945196mmm yummy thicc thighs
>>58944859persian