Obviously humans aren't in the "human-like" group, at least not solely, human's aren't "human-like", they're human. That'd be like saying "water is like water"
>>58936870Human's aren't in an egg group. They are separate from Pokemon. That's why Pokeballs work only on Pokemon and not humans.
>>58936870I've never understood the HSOWA joke, is it because Skitty is easy to say? There's plenty of smaller Field pokemon even in Gen 3.
>>58936894iirc Skitty is the smallest one that was in the RS dex
>>58936876from a world building perspective this doesn't make sense, it'd be like trying to say humans are not animals in the real world.Also pokeballs not working on humans is not really a gotcha as there are plenty of pokemon, both ingame and out, that are unaffected by pokeballs
>>58936876Aren't there literally pokedex entries of humans "turning" into pokemon? (yamask, kadabra, gastly off the top of my head)
>>58936924>from a world building perspective this doesn't make sense, lots of things is the pokemon world don't make sense, >it'd be like trying to say humans are not animals in the real world.Yes, its weird as fuck, especially since game freak doesn't want there to be real animals in the world anymore so human's are basically all alone, but Masuda has been on record saying multple times that humans and pokemon are indeed different. though one reason he gave was human's "can't use moves". >both ingame and out, that are unaffected by pokeballsThe only examples of pokemon not being affected I remember are all from trained Pokemon, Pokemon actively resisting, or the Ghost Marowak>>58936928Most of Gastly's dexes just say its born from gas. One mentions the gas being possessed by "grievances" but not actual people. You are correct about Yamask though that example is a bit weird since its the human's spirit that transforms which is different from the physical body. the Kadabra thing didn't happen, it's just a story in-universe. I don't blame you for thinking that because the dex doesn't clarify that at all. However, there was official (book released (in Japanese only) around the time Pokemon came out that went into detail about background Pokemon lore, and it expands on Kababra's dex saying that there was a tv show or book about a boy transforming into a Kadabra. It's also the same source of the Pokemon shrinking thing long before PLA.
>>58936969I guess that shows that it's more inconsistant than anything, "human's can't use moves" then wtf are the pyschic trainers doing? sabrina? Gengar was once a human but it's pre-evo's aren't?Pokemon I tell ya, rings one bell only for another to quack
>>58936870but water is like water
>>58936870>What egg group(s) are humans in? Yes
water 1 and field
>>58936870humans are human-like, so they are in the human-like egg group.other things that are obviously not human, are also human-like, so the group is called human-like because "human" by itself would exclude those pokemon.>That'd be like saying "water is like water"this is a true statement that goes unsaid because it goes without saying. if you were to make a list of every substance that had water-like properties, water itself would be on that list.
>>58937063I expected water 1 to be some vaporeon joke but vaporeon is in the field group......dare I ask why water 1?
>>58937109 a reference to the Teraleak noncanon scrapped fairy tale drafts, all the Pokémon that the writer knew were expendable enough to not get him fired if they were used for his shitposts were all in the field and water 1 groups
>>58936870>>58936924From a worldbuilding perspective, nothing about breeding makes any sense.Logically Pokemon shouldn't be able to breed except with their own species. Maybe a closely related species you could argue. Except there is no phylogeny in Pokemon, no indication that Darwinian evolution even exists. So what does "closely related" mean? Same egg group? But strangely enough it's possible for Pokemon to have grandkids that don't share an egg group with them because...Another problem is how crossbreeding works. In the real world you end up with hybrid species like mules or ligers, but in Pokemon the offspring always defaults to the same species as the mother. This calls into question what a "species" is exactly and how male-only or genderless species can exist at all. Not to mention legendaries that aren't unique or immortal.There's also the question of what "gender" means. In the real world, males/females are defined by what gametes they produce. But in Pokemon, it's canon that no one in the world knows how breeding works beyond eggs mysteriously appearing. If it were just sexual reproduction, you'd think they would've figured that out by now. So it seems that male vs female can only be based on the species inheritance rule. But there are still some problems with that like unbreedable legendaries having fixed male/female genders. Heatran can be either male or female, and it's not clear what the difference is. Maushold appears to be a mixed gender group of Pokemon of the same species but is actually one genderless "individual" that breeds with Ditto like most other genderless Pokemon.TL;DR it's arbitrary video game logic
>>58936870I assume there's only a human-like egg group, which is the closest to a human egg group since humans don't have an actual egg group. What, would you claim that other pokemon are more human-like than those literally categorized as human-like?
>>58936924Modern pokeballs might be programmed to abort the catching process once they detects human DNA. Similar protocol with trained pokemon >>58936969: Once an unoccupied pokeball detects a pokemon is already owned, it won't catch it. While not a mainline source, the Snag Machine and the Mewtwo Balls prove trained pokemon can be caught. Not to mention ZA mentions pokeballs can be hacked.>>58936928Yes, here's a list of some I've found:Ninetales (folktale)>"According to an enduring legend, 9 noble saints were united and reincarnated as this Pokémon." - Yellow>also mentioned in: S, αS, Sun, LGPEYamask (directly stated)>"Each of them carries a mask that used to be its face when it was human. Sometimes they look at it and cry." - Black>also mentioned in every future Pokédex entry (excluding Galarian Yamask)Honedge (directly stated)>"Honedge's soul once belonged to a person who was killed a long time ago by the sword that makes up Honedge's body." - SwordPhantump (folktale & directly stated)>"According to old tales, these Pokémon are stumps possessed by the spirits of children who died while lost in the forest." - Y>also mentioned in: αS, Sun, Sword, (Shield), Violet, ZA Froslass (folktale & directly stated)>"Legends in snowy regions say that a woman who was lost on an icy mountain was reborn as Froslass." - HG>also mentioned in: SS, Y, αS, Moon, Sword, PLA>Wasn't there a case in PLA of a Froslass having a child with a human?If those entries are legit, then humans and pokemon have similar soul characteristics. They only differ in their biological setting, with humans being extreme outliers compared to the rest of the animal / pokemon kingdom, as they supposedly cannot interact with pokemon. Personal headcanon: Humans can actually be caught by pokeballs, but they have an extremely low catch rate due to their biology.
>>58937362The pragmatic answer: It's nearly impossible to program hybrid pokemon for every pokemon combination there is. Not to mention those hybrids also breeding.>>58937082mathematical Set theory
Humans do not produce eggs, so they are in the Undiscovered egg group.
>>58936870Humans are in every egg group. They can breed with any pokemon, even the legendaries. Even arceus got knocked up by a human.
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