Are you ready for the influx of retarded zoomers who are about to play FRLG?
>>58942464>WTF I have to actually train my Pokemon? This isn't like XY at all
>>58942484>WTF training anything other than my starter is completely fucking pointless and just gives me a worse team? This isn't like XY at allftfy
>>58942478this persons a tranny faggot so it's worthless to read what they have to say
>>58942488This you?
>>58942495>y-you're supposed to be satisfied wasting time just to have a worse team!>extra type coverage with your shitty lv20 oddish is more useful than just using flamethrower with your lv36 charizard I swear!This retard is just bad at Pokemon games and is projecting his poor understanding of the mechanics on everyone else.
>>58942478The concept of pseudos being late bloomer exp hogs that you need to work for is lost on some it seems.
>>58942509why wouldn't it be, thats not how the new games operate
>>58942493So according to you nothing /vp/ says is worth to read then
>>58942516Show me how to get to the dragonite spawn without the raidon upgrades
>>58942488>WTF training anything other than my starter is completely fucking pointless So XY?
>>58942551holy shit I can do sky battles with my chesnaught?
>>58942478Losing to Bruno is pretty impressive you have to give him that
>>58942464
>>58942560Sky battles are optional but I already figured you don't play Pokemon games.
>>58942588>he's so scared of losing that he avoided sky battlesKEK
>>58942588>i-it's optional so I don't have to do it!This you?
>>58942602>he's parroting with images nowThank you for admitting defeat.
>>58942464I'm a zoomer and I played the GB(C) games on my N64's GamePak.
>>58942599>he's so scared of losingThat's the argument behind using overleveled starters only.
>>58942602>>i-it's optional so I don't have to do it!The XYbro rates the games off how quickly he can blast through it, I guess he has inconsistent standards after all.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO TRADE WITH SOMEONE ELSE TO GET GENGAR INSTEAD OF JUST USING A LINK CABLE LIKE IN MUH SWITCH GAME! HOW DARE THOSE DEV FORCE ME TO HAVE FRIENDS!
>>58942582me with WACCA
>>58942689this but without an atom of irony
>>58942464>Gyarados useless because water is specialRope all compfags
>switchkids when they find out that about hm's
>>58942478>noooo I had to use the items the game gave mebruh
Ummm why does Lance's Dragonite know Hyper Beam? I thought an Elite Four member would know better than put a non-STAB special move on a physical powerhouse Pokémon.
This is going give Yawnfag so much power.
>>58943130>the underagefags Yawnfag believes are truly good at pokemon games are going to humiliate themselves in one of the easiest entries ever FRLGOh I'm so scared.
retarded zoomers tend to skew the opinion on older pokemon gameswe've seen it with hgss, we're about to see it with frlg
>>58943140>>58943130>yawnfag is person I don’t likeIt has been almost 10 years and you’re still seething. It’s the most pathetic shit I’ve ever seen.
>>58943160>Call out yawnfag>He immediately appearslel
>>58942464this is me, never liked gyarados.
YwnBULL got them still seething
>>58943158hgss is a legitimately good game thougheven before the rerelease rumors people were mixed on frlgand from what I’ve gathered, the general remake consensus is hgss>oras>frlg>lgpe>bdsp
>>58942582Doesn’t work with FRLG when these are some of the most normie games ever lol
>>58942478>grindingYou weren’t meant to grind in old Pokemon games, no. The level jump is part of the difficulty, since level is also factored into damage calculation. “Git gud” isn’t a wall that filters people in other games where the only alternative to win is mindless grinding (i.e. most Souls titles). Other gamers just accept that they need to learn the actual game in time for lategame fights. NuPokemon fans are literally too spoiled, and their attitude is exactly why we get champions like Geeta instead of Cynthia now.
>>58942464In looking forward to a whole new generation slowly realizing the Safari Zone is unmitigated ass.
>>58942464Yeah Gayrados is the useless pokemon because of phys/special NOT literally every dark type in gen 3 base game :v)
>>58943223>ghost is physical>most ghost types are special>dark is special>most dark types are physicaldid they think it would be funny or what?
>>58943210>You weren’t meant to grind in old Pokemon gamesthis is revisionismthere’s a reason that gens 2 and 3 had rematch features >Other gamers just accept that they need to learn the actual game in time for lategame fightspokémon doesn’t control anything like a soulsborne, you’re essentially saying that oranges don’t have pulps because apples don’t
>>58942464to begin with only retards picked up a third version of kanto that was remade in a imperfected fresh battle system
>>58943250At least big dick banette is a beast and I guess technically Sableye gets away with both.
>>58942464I'll never understand why the fanbase is so adverse to grinding. It's a fucking RPG, of course you're going to have to grind. You're supposed to rematch trainers, you're supposed to battle wild encounters instead of spamming repels, you're supposed to hunt for beneficial items like rare candies and vitamins. What you're not supposed to do is blitz through the game like a retard while scrolling tiktok. I'm saying this as an '04 zoomfag, the first 4 gens were great because they required you to immerse yourself in the world to get stronger rather than just play on autopilot and have the EXP share do all the heavy lifting for you. I fucking hate faggots like in OP that don't understand elementary game design. And with faggots like SmithPlays this has only worsened. Because now retards think they're expert game designers when all of their ideas are awful and work against the original vision.
>>58943272because nu-Pokemon has committed to being "babys first JRPG" so hard that these days it's basically for people who don't even like JRPGs
The good thing about Pokemon is that you don’t have to grind
>>58942464>>58942478If they can't handle it, they should play Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee instead.
>>58943130How so?
>>58942464Before the port comes out I will say FRLG is my favorite mainline pokemon game and I think kanto is the best designed region, you're NOT allowed to call me a bandwagoner at any point in the future. Thank you
>>58943285>th-they don't like JRPGs!!!>almost every modern JRPG has permanent shared expI think it's DStards who don't actually like JRPGs.
>>58943272In fairness, the E4 in this game does have a significant level jump compared to the rest of the game.However it's easily circumvented by just grinding off the E4 themselves so it's no issue
>>58942478>avoid every trainer on each route like the plague>wonder why mons are underleveled
>>58942488Zoom zoom zoom
>>58942464no physical/special split is my only gripe with gen 3
>>58943354you can't blame dschads for your shit taste forever
>>58943370Seems more like he just did the typical campaignshitter thing of wasting exp on training 6 pokemon evenly literally the whole game.When I played FRLG and entered the E4 my team was a lv70 Charizard, lv50ish Zapdos and Gengar, and the rest was just shitmons/HM slaves.
>>58943379>lv50ish Zapdos and GengarBut I thought wasting exp on training Pokemon evenly was a bad thing? The highest level you can get a Haunter before beating the game is Level 25. Evidently you wasted exp getting that Gengar around level 50.
>>58943379>campaignshitterPost elo yawntroonPost ball rank yawntroonPost any bit of proof you play comp yawntroon
>>58943285its nuJRPGS in general, random encounters are easy to avoid if not just turn off or instant clear and ways to get exp without fighting, they're spoiled now
>>58942478>zoomers are getting filtered by fucking BRUNOSomehow, that's even more embarassing than losing to Brock.
>>58942478>>58942464doesn't this game have the VS Seeker, trivializing grinding?
>>58943426It introduced it. As a kid I would go repeatedly pulp the bikers on Cycling road to farm enough money to buy a Dratini off the Game Corner.
>>58943426Yes. Its still a little crude, but it works as intended.
>>58943187>hgss is a legitimately good game thoughindeed, the best in the series evenzoomers hate it though
>>58943257>there’s a reason that gens 2 and 3 had rematch featuresBecause postgame gen I left you with no one to fight and make money from except the League. Travelling halfway back across Johto to fight a team composed of two level 16 Marills is not going to help you level up.
>>58943272>It's a fucking RPG, of course you're going to have to grindthis pretty much only applies to jrpgs thoughwestern rpgs usually either scale enemies to your level or don’t have levels in a traditional sense.it’s kind of sad that the term “rpg” has been diluted do much, people ignore the “role-playing” aspect and focus on numbers
>>58943187Sorry anon, but youtubers who minmax the fun out of the games told me it's bad, so now I have to hate it.
>>58943481rematch teams do not have 2 level 16 marills
>>58943500I think you replied to the wrong post, no biggie
>>58942478A large reason why I think FRLG is one of the best gens. It naturally had one of the more difficult E4s through normal gameplay. Then they get an insane boost after the post-game. While RSE had a good playthrough, its E4 was just so fucking weak and there was no post-game.
>>58943379I don't think it's even that. I remember attempting to distribute exp evenly on my last playthrough and I wasn't this handicapped at the E4 or at any point in the game.
>>58942478I'm going to assume he made the mistake of actually training 6 equally leveled Pokemon.In the older games it's better to just only use 1-2 Pokemon and never switch. The "clueless kid who can't read" way of playing is ironically also the easiest and most efficient.
>>58942478>Zoomies get filtered by fucking BrunoKek
>>58942464Wait until he learns Gyarados doesn't need it this gen cause of Dragon Dance
>>58943462Not surprising considering how bad it make their previous "magnum opus" look by comparison
>>58942478>Why is the Elite Four overleveled compared to me, it's almost like they're endgame boss fights :(>Why can't I use a pseudo legendary to stomp the main story, this is bad game design :(>I managed to lose to a story npc while I'm above the age of 10 :(This is why modern Pokemon games are the way they are.
>>58942478gen alpha tears are so delicious.
>>58942509They're virtually designed for you to be unable to use them at their full power in an ingame playthrough. They're almost always found lategame or postgame and its very unlikely they're fully evolved in time for the Pokemon League.
>>58942698>imagine not having a machine in your areaI need to save up to buy one because I'm sick of slobbering retards breaking all the cabs at my local place
Will alpharts even be able to deal with the rival being a dickhead who pick the starter strong against them when every games since gen 5 has conditioned them to love dicksucking loser who pick the weaker starter?
>>58943894gen 7*
>>58943187Nope, the open-ended midgame means I can't catch a lvl 39 ice type for Clair and the postgame superboss is 30+ levels higher than me. Bad game design.
>retarded zoomers>FRLGRedundant statement, I think.
>>58943813>The "clueless kid who can't read" way of playing is ironically also the easiest and most efficient.But it's also the least fun.
>>58943894>Since gen 5Anon, as far back as gen 3 "rivals" are your friends May/Brendan want to suck your dick and Wally is the prototypical cucked "rival". Then in gen 4 Barry is outright your friend and Dawn is just a lab assistant a.k.a proto-Bianca.Outside of Gary and Silver there are no real rivals.
>>58942478He shouldn't have skipped trainers and he should have leveled more than two Pokemon. Machamp is slow and has low special defense. Any fast psychic type can OHKO, probably without even boosting, but definitely with battle items.
>>58942478His team just fucking sucks, on the older games they had high levels because all their IVs and EVs were 0 and their moves were dogshit:>+1 Lvl 45 0 SpA Twisted Spoon Kadabra Psychic vs. Lvl 56 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IVs Machamp: 193-228 (116.2 - 137.3%) -- guaranteed OHKOJust calm mind once on Onix and ohko all of Bruno's team, you can easily beat FRLG E4 in your mid 40s, and you have the alternative of catching the birds and roflstompong the league with base lv 50 birbs
>>58943947But anon, games are not about having fun!
>>58942478>Losing to BrunoBruno is literally the most free win ever. How do you lose to him?
>>58943272>yo it's an rpg nigga, you should waste time doing repetitive shit that isn't funOk
>>58943257>there’s a reason that gens 2 and 3 had rematch featuresAs a bonus when backtracking to hunt for new mons to fill out your dex, yes. Gen 2 and RS have infrequent rematches, so no, the devs were not expecting you to wait with your thumb up your ass for the timer to arbitrarily assign you enough trainers to grind to the E4's level.>pokémon doesn’t control anything like a soulsborneBoth games have a means of "brute forcing" the campaign by twiddling your thumbs and accruing higher stats, but aren't designed around the average player doing so. Pokemon gives you the opportunity to capture legendaries and use restores/revives freely; the only barrier to using your tools is ego, when grinding ironically proves an even greater shitter mindset and fear of setbacks. Divergent evolution in terms of gameplay, but still developed from older RPGs that also functioned this way and under these design choices. Your pithy food analogy in lieu of actual analysis tells us everything we need to know, considering how comparable "apples and oranges" actually are in practice.
>>58944760The trainer rematch situation is also mostly for money. It's faster to grind off of wild pokemon, anyway. GF just didn't want to softlock players, which you could tell they were afraid of as far back as Yellow.
>>58943354yknow with all the seething nugen fags do over dsCHADS im almost surprised they haven't come up with a witty insult about how "ds fans are cucked so hard to the point where nintendo had to write "ntr" on every single ds cartridge"but then again, you're retarded enough to enjoy nugen pokemon, so i can't expect you to be clever enough to come up with something like that. we have to hand it to you like a spoonful of mush to a baby
>>58943414>zoomersI played Pokemon Yellow like 25 years ago. Gen Z is a big age group.
>>58943836Trvke, their meme complaints about HGSS are nothing more than projection
>>58942478>He didn't used Mimien
>>58944907Honestly, both games are based for putting stuff behind the post-game. If you don't play all the game, you don't get all the extra stuff. I think B2W2 could have used more non-Unova Pokemon exclusive to the post-game, simply playing BW would get you basically all those Pokemon, but I get it, they wanted to make Dream World more appealing. There's still 9 lines and 2 Eeveelutions but with how many more Pokemon there are in Gen 5 compared to Gen 2, both new and old, that's still not a lot percentage wise.
>>58944926True, I don't actually think it's an issue in either game. I just think it's funny when Unova fans point to the few gen 2 mons in HGSS that are postgame only as if B2W2 doesn't have the same """"issue"""" but with more mons.HGSS still mogs B2W2, although I like both games.
>>58942509That's because prior to the zoomification of Pokemon, Psuedos were meant to be used in PVP and the Stadium Games, not an average playthrough.
How the fuck did /vp/ convince themselves that zoomers didn't play Gen 3? Do you actually know the age of that group?
>>58945030Hell, I'll give a reminder>Ruby/Sapphire release: 2002>Gen III end: 2006>oldest zoomer born: 1997>youngest zoomer born: 2012These games are made to be played by children.
>>58942478How the fuck do you even lose to Bruno.
>>58943272The thing is, grinding is not even a thing in pokemon, if you progress through the game beating trainers and the random encounters, you will defeat everything.
>>58944976Pretty sure it's not Unova fans but instead the last dregs of the Discord cabal doing that, they used to be the number one critics of anything Gen 2 related on here. These days it's maybe Yawnfag, as always with these sorts of things, as anything related to the DS games makes him lose his fucking mind. Like if Unova fans were doing it it'd be extremely hypocritical as BW alone has a very similar type of endgame to GS and there are Pokemon whose evolution levels are designed to facilitate that, as opposed to GS where it was kind of an accident because Masuda forced them to get the games out instead of meticulously balancing them (not like that extra time helped Gen 1 though).Regardless, HGSS and B2W2 are probably the best individual games in the series, and depending on the day they might swap places, but given GS is my nostalgia pick it's usually HGSS. Shout outs to Emerald and the GameCube titles for Gen 3 and USUM as well, they're not perfect but they've got the next best cost-benefit ratio.
>>58945030>>58945040They're likely talking about those born in the 2010s, the ones who'd grow up into the intended audience for Gen 6 onward, since there's such a significant divide in zoomer behavior thanks to the sheer technological leap of the internet, especially the wireless internet, that took place during the zoomer era.
>>58945070On /vp/ maybe, but outside of the board it's another story
Why are millenials like this?
>Unova Derangement Syndrome
>>58945086Fair, I try not to interact with the larger Pokemon community so I wouldn't know.
>>58945069>grinding is not a thing if you grindamazing logic
>>58945096Pretty sure you're thinking of Yawnfag, dude will flip his opinion on a dime just to shit on a DS game. Like he'll complain about Pokemon campaigns being mash A easy and say playing with a non-optimal team is playing like a retard, then tell you that the Battle Maison is the peak of battle facilities when basically every format has a team you can mash A with because you can pick other less optimal teams. Dude is genuinely unwell.
>>58945108No one is thinking of yawnfag but you, get his dick out of your mouth
>>58945133Bodied that AGPiglet
>>58942464>retarded zoomers who are about to play FRLGWe already played through Yellow and Crystal when they were added to the 3DS' Virtual Console.This is the saddest attempt at gatekeeping I've seen in a while, did you fucking forget that the DS can play GBA games? Plenty of zoomers grew up with FRLG.
>>58943813To an extent. I played like that, but I also had friends more clueless than me that saddled their starter with stuff like HM Cut and then 3 attacking moves of the same type instead of coverage.
>>58945108Even better, he calls the Honey trees a waste of time for taking hours to encounter a single Pokemon, yet goes out of his way to defend Berry Farming, a waste of time for taking hours to get a couple of berries, just because it isn't in BW.
>>58942478He's right tho. Grinding sucks and the EXP Share was a godsend.
