Isnt it crazy how Venusaur and Blastoise are not in Smash Bros yet? And they will never be because of that stupid pokemon trainer character.
>>58946456Not allowed to overshadow SHILLZARD
>>58946456No not really.
>>58946456>Isnt it crazy how [Pokemon no one gives a flying fuck about] are not in Smash Bros yet? And they will never be because of that [based] pokemon trainer character.
>>58946456Screw Kanto. We need a Gen 3 rep like Sceptile or Gardevoir.
>>58946456>And they will never be because of that stupid pokemon trainer character.I still think going back to the trainer was a mistake and it's the reason I don't like ultimate as much as 4. Also, they should just make squirtle/charmander/bulbasaur the fighters and you have to evolve them mid-match.
>>58946467Their time has passed, if they add a gen 3 rep it should be Absol with a mega evolution gimmick
>>58946467D E O X Y S
>>58946456Having them each represent an evolutionary stage instead of 3 heavyweights is a better idea
>>58946469>they should just make squirtle/charmander/bulbasaur the fighters and you have to evolve them mid-match.Bad idea. For that gimmick you'd have to put in effort equivalent to two new fighters for the first and final EVOs + a semi-clone for the middle stages.
>>58946505just make all 3 stages semiclones of the appropriate stages of finished current mons
>>58946491It sounds like a good idea, but it left us without Venusaur and Blastoise and instead we have NFE trash no one cares about.
>>58946524It sounds like a good idea because it is one.
>>58946524Squirtle's cool. Bulbasaur would have fit more than Ivysaur, but better Ivysaur than Wartortle or Charmeleon.
>>58946524>it sounds like a good idea, but it's not because it just isn't okay?
>>58946456>big ass heavy quadruped with a giant flower (aka extra hurtbox) sticking out of itVenusaur would be the lowest of low tiers ever conceived in any platform/fighter game ever. It would get shit on so bad you'd think Sakurai wanted all of its fans to suffer and you'd spend all of your time complaining about how it was done dirty.
>>58946997People who want Pokemon reps to just be fully evolved shit over and over don't care about tiers, otherwise they'd want the opposite.
>>58946997It can have some good zoning tools
>>58947991It'd just be a more awkward Ivysaur, it can't really do anything that Ivysaur can't apart from Frenzy Plant.That argument has more of a leg to stand on with Blastoise, but even then you'd run the risk of it feeling like Blue Bowser that Squirtle doesn't have.
>>58948015Blastoise's biggest problem is that its design wouldn't really work in that environment, we all saw what happened when they tried adding it to Pokken
Here is how it should have been:>they get added in Brawl as part of the Pokemon Trainer>everyone thinks its cool but it would have been better to have squirtle and ivysaur instead of 3 heavyweights>smash 4>the trainer and venusaur and blastoise get cut>ultimate>venusaur and blastoise return in full glory as their own characters with updated movesets
>>58948034Here is how it should have been:>literally what we got but without that type effectiveness mechanic because it just fucked ivysaur and would fuck venusaur tooBecause screw Smash fans treating Pokemon like reverse FE, they want it to be less varied instead of more.
>>58948015Its just a cooler Ivysaur, similar moveset but better in every way, unless you are a competitive fag>That argument has more of a leg to stand on with Blastoise, but even then you'd run the risk of it feeling like Blue Bowser that Squirtle doesn't have.That rivalry betwen Bowser and Blastoise just makes it better>>58948033He has short limbs, but it wouldnt be a problem in a game like smash
>>58948046Explain how it's better without crying about NFEs. You can't.
>>58946481Would be a childhood dream come true
>evolution is one of the most important parts of pokemon>having a character that showcases the three stages of evolution is bad actually
Blastoise is such a great fucking design. Can't get enough of her.
>>58948062Pokemon is reverse FE, Smash fans wish it was MORE repetitive.