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>people are already trying to pretend Gen 7 was anything other than total slop
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>>58950106
I mean, if it could happen with gen 5…
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>>58950106
I hate life and wish I was never born. Hopefully somebody kills me, I'm too much of a bitch to do it myself.
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>>58950106
>they only like it cause the grew up with it
>I like the game I grew up with because it's actually peak
Thread over
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>>58950106
>Are we please entering the era
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>>58950119
Gen 5 was the last pokemon generation that was unabashedly good and everyone who isn't a retarded Genwunner agrees with that sentiment. Every gen afterwards comes with asterisks tacked on.

>>58950127
I grew up with gens 3-5 but PLZA is my 2nd favorite game in the series.
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The consequences of gens 8 and 9 being humiliation rituals.
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>BRO GEN 7 WAS SO PEAK BWO
>why?
>um uh uhh KANTOOOOOO and SEXY CHILDREN
lol
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>>58950106
Anything after Gen 4 is nu-gen shit for subhumans
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>>58950135
>>>um uh uhh KANTOOOOOO and SEXY CHILDREN
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>>58950106
You're late, people have moved on from alola and are now saying galar was peak.
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>>58950106
Gen 7 was 2 steps forward, 2 steps back. It has multiple glaring problems, mostly the amount of cutscenes, flaccid postgame due to the retarded removal of the vs seeker amongst other things and extremely linear geography but it did do way more right at once than any other generation ever. Play a gen 5/6 game then play USUM and you’ll notice the enormous amount of details, features and QOL improvements across the board. It does also look good, at least for a 3ds game. To me it’s one of those things that consistently ranks in people’s top 3’s but it’s never anyone’s no. 1. It’s a fantastic mainline game locked in a below average “region” at a time when the now dead yokai watch was stealing game TPCI’s lunch, and they were desperate to compensate. Plus it had like a dozen of the most erotic girls the franchise has ever seen.
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SM introduced no longer having the Withdraw/Deposit options clog up the fucking PC after they'd been there since day one when they stopped being necessary when Gen III introduced the Move option and ORAS made it so you could have Move be the default option. That's the QOL feature Masuda should've had since day fucking one and it was never there. That's when I gave up on Pokemon because I felt like I was being treated like a goddamn idiot when they waited 20 years to standardize a feature that should have been in the older games

It's no fucking wonder Ohmori's games sell better than Masuda's
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>>58950158
no one puts these games top 3 let alone top 5 nigga be fr
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>>58950106
The Zelda cycle is real
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>>58950106
>Dude is that KANTO holy fucking PEAK
That aside I do think it's the peak.
...of the 3d era, that is.
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>>58950177
It’s the last 3d game to not be a technical abortion with a gutted dex, that alone makes it the most appealing game to a lot of people. Most of the people I know IRL who play the games all say USUM (specifically USUM mind) was the best and most feature-complete the mainline games ever got so i’m just saying it how I see it. None of them have it as a favourite but everyone likes it from what I’ve experienced.
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>>58950106
gen 7 was good.
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sucks cause it has a lot going for it only to be ruined by bad map and hand-holding tutorial that makes up 50% of the story.
>great setting
>great character designs
>descent enough base story
>trials as an idea are ok
>good mon designs
>better amie and ev/iv training mechanics
i'd kill for a demake
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>>58950106
It’s still the best 3D gen so makes sense
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>>58950133
>Gen 5 was [LIE]
Good job proving >>58950119 right lmao
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>>58950361
The only thing anyone can criticize gen 5 for is black and white locking the all nat dex pokemon to the post game aka its the only game that actually took a creative risk
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>>58950370
>The only thing anyone can criticize gen 5 for is black and white locking the all nat dex pokemon to the post game
and all the features from HGSS getting lazily cut
and the complete lack of exploration
and the obnoxious handholding
and the region having fewer routes than fucking Kalos
and the poorly written story
and the bad looking poorly animated sprites
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>>58950106
Gen 7 were the last Pokemon games that were at least 5/10
Low bar that that is
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>>58950379
>and all the features from HGSS getting lazily cut
Le shitty pokemon follow sprite
>and the complete lack of exploration
False
>and the obnoxious handholding
False
>and the region having fewer routes than fucking Kalos
yet more exploration and better pacing
>and the poorly written story
Subjective
>and the bad looking poorly animated sprites
Shit taste; dismissed.
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>>58950379
> and all the features from HGSS getting lazily cut
Weren’t HGSS and BW developed at the same time?
>and the poorly written story
That’s every Pokémon game, Pokemon stories only exist for Ohmori to goon to little kids in Alolepstein island.
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>>58950133
Gen 2 was the last generation that was unabashedly good. After that Pokemania was good and over and everything after that was just performative shitters refusing to grow up.
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Generation 7 had a much larger plan for Rainbow Rocket even in the base Sun and Moon. There was a mix of characters returning after some time (the aged ones) or having fallen through the portal with their respective bad guys (Cynthia, Wally) but in the end they just became cameos in the Battle Tower.
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>>58950135
>BRO GEN 7 WAS SO PEAK BWO
>why?
>KANTO and SEXY CHILDREN
>Based???
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>>58950200
>It’s the last 3d game to not be a technical abortion
It ran like ass though. Not as bad as SV but definitely worse than SWSH
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>>58950137
>Lucario shilling ritual for two years leading up to release
Gen 4 was nugen dogshit from the start.
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>>58950433
Gen 2 is what killed Pokemania. It was too similar to gen 1 and was worse to play with a tedious level curve, good mons inaccessible while you're stuck with shitmons until the postgame, and too many mons required insane catch conditions like headbutting trees, bug contests on Tuesday, swarms, special events and specific times of day that nobody would even think of doing. There were so many versions of Pokemon by then that it became a joke with most people, Red? Yellow? Crystal? Gold? Diamond? Zirconia? It's all the same game anyway why bother buying it more than once? That's why Pokemania died. Gen 2 wasn't well thought out in the slightest.
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>>58951290
This but Gen 3
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>>58950106
I always liked gen 7 and played a lot of it when it was current. While 2d just flat out works much better for Pokemon than 3d does, Alola does a pretty great job at recreating the feeling of exploration that previous games had. It's the last mainline title that made an attempt at that old formula before Game Freak just said "fuck it" and copy-pasted BOTW two times in a row. The Pokemon variety throughout the campaign is great too, and USUM are easily the most difficult games ever put out by Game Freak.

That dialogue in the early-game always makes me think twice about replaying it though, holy fuck. Gen 7 is mostly good, but it does deserve a lot of the complaints directed at it. At any rate they're at least much better games than XY
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as long as gen 6 avoids the revisionism i can accept any and all
even unovafags acting like the designs weren't widely perceived as abhorrent abominations doesn't faze me
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>>58950106
dear lord, these people are insufferable. they'll slurp shit straight from the anus if masuda told them to
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>>58951327
This is a good summary.

>recreating that feeling of exploration
Alola had a LOT going for it in terms of design. It was based on Hawaii, but rather than just making a few tropical islands, they fleshed out entire ecosystems that didn't feel too out of place. Going to a new place was genuinely exciting.
>Pokemon variety
Sun and Moon made me use a lot of Pokemon I probably would have never actually used normally. It made me stop going through my usual starter and HM slave team and actually try using the new Pokemon I found, and I found myself constantly changing my team as I progressed. I can't remember the last time I did that prior to SM.
>The dialogue
While I agree that it wasn't exactly the best, it still helped flesh out characters to the point that you could say you knew them. From arriving in Alola to getting your first pokemon,you already know a good deal about several characters. By the time you do your first major rival battle, Hau is already your friend. By the time you leave the first island, you are already well acquainted with Lillie and Kukui as if they were always in your life. The campiness of the dialogue was just part of its charm, honestly. USUM improved it a lot, but the original had its charms.
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>>58950106
I mean I like gen 7, story while they could have told it better was the first time I felt somewhat invested in, Plus it gave me my favorite pokemon <3
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>>58951348
>Deltaturd
Yea no
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>>58950133
>PLZA is my 2nd favorite
very damn literally kys
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>>58951345
I think what kills me is that SM did a LOT of shit I wished earlier games did like finally remove HMs and fix the PC box to get rid of those unnecessary options. All this for the first game without a NatDex. I knew the franchise was fucked going forward after it, but I still enjoyed the games and treated them as really the last worthwhile games Pokemon would ever put out

Completely correct, I'm genuinely happy I never bought a new game
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never played the in game. gen 7 had the best OU tier in competitive pokemon
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Pokémon was never good.
>DUDE, IT'S LIKE GACHAPON, BUT IN REVERSE
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>>58951290
Gen 2 has one of the weakest batches of new Pokemon in the series.
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>>58950106
>muh KANTOOOOOOOOOOO CALLBACKS!!!! IT'S LE PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
Kantofags are a disease
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i liked gen 7
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>>58951422
even without the NatDex they still made non-Alolan pokemon actually obtainable instead of just entirely removing them
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>>58951348
>Mareanie instead of Mimikyu
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>>58950106
Gen 7 is probably the worst generation they’ve made desu, like how do you release gen 5 again but double down on all of its worst aspcts
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>>58951903
That's the cope, "at least you could-"

But I knew it was coming the moment they didn't have it. Cutting the mechanic was to wean the fanbase. Then Masuda pulls LGPE out of his ass to keep people used to "not having all the Pokemon" so SwSh could shit its whole ass all over the fanbase. By that point all of the issues of the 3DS era had finally exploded and fully fractured the fanbase going forward. Now it'll NEVER be fixed



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