Was the Switch era really that bad?
>>58957854It was worse..
The bottom half is fine but this franchise suffered irreperable damage from the four horsemen of Ultra Changes, Kanto 3, Dexit and BDSMthe dying breaths of the 3DS games were a warning sign
>>58957854>Carried by SinnohBased.
>PLA has the highest score for both users and criticsA certain someone on here is NOT going to like this.
>>58957854PL:A and SV were honestly really good. Nothing else in this image needed to exist.
>>58957854SV should be lower
>>58957854Only the Legends games were worthwhile
>>58957998Z-A is dogshit boring>but the storystill dogshit boring
In a decade, 2030's /vp/ posters will call it the golden age of the series
>the Switch era has the best selling Pokemon games right behind RBYLiterally how. Did the Switch just carry the games by how much the games sold?
>>58957854According to /vp/, every era has been bad except the first one.
>>58958003Cope retard
PLA and the SV DLC were fine I guess
>>58957854>this thread again
>>58958006Yes. If they were any good, they would've sold more.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6o7sutY94c
>>58957854No, it made a lot of retards salty now that was the best part.
>>58957854notice how the only one of those game that didn’t got reviewbombed is also the lowest selling one. strange isn’t it?
>>58958031This video is pure cope lol. The switch just outsold the DS, yet pretty much all of gen 8 and 9 have a higher attach rate than gen 4 and 5
>>58958004Revisionism always comes in when a new fresh generation comes in.
>>58957991>comparing pla to scat&vomitI know who you are
SV > SwSH > ZA > LA > LGPE > BDSP
>>58958033Case in point >>58958031
>>58957854Yes, there were a lot of issues across most games and Legends Arceus is the only game I would say is unequivocally good, unless you aren't a fan of the change in gameplay.>LGPEWould've been good if the Pokémon encounters were not complete dogshit, with mandatory motion or touch controls, and a terrible implementation of Pokémon Go's capture mechanics; things like the targeting circle continuing to change size after you throw, and Pokémon being free to run at literally any moment after the first Poké Ball throw, including during menus.>SW/SHThe early low user scores was because of Dexit, but years later it's still just not a good campaign with a poor presentation, weak gimmick, and weak regional Pokédex.>BD/SPObjectively worse than the DS original in many ways, with no sense for visual design; why the fuck are you zooming into miniatures that are really not designed for that.>ArceusJust a straight up good game, which you might complain is lacking in the trainer battles department, and might take issue with the strong / agile battle styles, but I feel accomplishes it own things well.>S/VTakes freedom to its detrimental conclusion, you get free exploration of a circular low-poly map with very little going on, and Pokémon wandering around in pretty unnatural fashion. A directionless collectathon with a suggested order of doing things.>Z-ALet's forget everything that made Arceus accomplished and go back to hand-holding the player to an extreme, and get rid all of the environmental variety by confining you to a single city, and dumbing down the research mechanics to extremely generic tasks.
>>58958031Actually quality is rarely a factor in whether a game sells well or not.
>>58958072Arceus tried different things and I think it was fine. Even the amount of trainer battles aren't an issue in my opinion. Sadly they were really underwhelming. That and the pop in are the biggest issues I think. Also the purple ghost things could have used a farther render distance.
>>58958094Good point. Some franchises' worst entries were among the best selling. If the quality of the product is not the factor, then what is? The marketing? Was it that good to warrant being among some of the best-selling?
>>58957893More like Hisui. BDSP shows that no matter how bad things got with SwSh, it always could've been worse.
>>58958105>>58958072Arceus is a boring checklist with a shitty story and forgettable characters.
Humiliation ritual for the quality of the gamesHumiliation ritual for the fans because how much they sold despite that.The Switch unironically irreversibly ruined Pokemon
>>58958094And quality sometimes doesn't get in the way of people simply having fun with the game.
>>58958122>Humiliation ritual for the fans because how much they sold despite that.Based
>>58958112cool story plassfag but we are talking about pla rn, not bw
The only reason SV got so much hate was because the huge amount of bugs when it was released, which is when most people bought it. I didnt play it til like a year later on emulator when all the bugs were gone. And its the best game on the list. Very cool being able to find pokemon and trainers 10+ levels higher than u and beating them with strategy
>>58958142most of the bugs were insignificant desuaie the characters have funny visual glitches that have no impact on gameplay when I use the online multiplayer save me /vp/
>>58958072Arceus has good things and overall the strongest entry among what you've listed, but I wouldn't call the game as a whole good, more like subpar or mid. My biggest issues with it are what >>58958112 said along with the art style and being overpriced for what's offered. It's a good $30 game if the padding is toned down, but not a good $60 game as it is.>lacking in the trainer battles department, and might take issue with the strong / agile battle stylesHave you tried the postgame?
>metacritic numbers thread for the 9078657890876th time>to still no actual effect on the real worldGiven everything they've released for it has sold incredibly well, while incels can do nothing but screech they didn't liek it and spam metatard around as if it means something, no. Reality hurts people's feefees though, so need to divorce themselves from it to handle it better.
I pirated Scarlet and ZA.
>>58958031There's a reason they were outsold by mario (not counting mario kart and nsmb), zelda, smash and animal crossing when that wasn't the case in previous gens
>>58958109Timing
>>58958142>The only reason SV got so much hate was because the huge amount of bugs when it was releasedSo like pretty much every Pokémon game ever?
>>58957854>the worst game on this list is an 8.0>SwSh is red>LGPE is yellow somehowGod review bombers are such NPCs
>>58958111Despite people being salty base DP are still an infinitely better experience than SWSH + DLCs
>>58958038Pokemon fans are such professional shit eaters they put the Indians paid to shill gamefreak's slop to shame
>>58957854We got SV and PLA, so it was good. If you like VGC, then the entire era for was good for you.
>>58957854SV is one of the worst game on the Switch, it's a shit era
>>58958700games*
>>58957854Is was bad enough to make me actually wish for the downfall of a franchise I once adored
>>58958031He has a point, but consider the following>Most of the series named only have one or two entries on the Switch, while pokemon slopped out SIX entire "main" entries (besides Legends semantics)>Pokemon is developed with spit and glue, the budgets of SwSh and SV combined are probably less than BotW'sSo while it might be disappointing to them that SV "only" sold 28m, they must have made crazy fucking profits off those games. Frequent releases works out for nintendo as well since it fills out their release schedule with "big name" games. Until sales crash they're not going to see a reason to do anything about it
>>58958861I'm not too sure about that desu. We know from the teraleak that SV's dlc ballooned in budget to costing them almost as much as PLA's whole budget, and the DLC had atrocious sales with iirc only 6 millionish which is less than what they'd get for third versions in the past, on top of the DLC being cheaper than a retail game too. That's all probably why ZA's dlc is so noticeable barebones.All that said the games are an afterthought for them. They get more money off of merchandise.
>>58957854I can't take anyone who places BDSM and PeePee&PooPoo over the other games seriously>muh washed out artstyle>muh nostalgia>muh faithfulnessNo
>>58957854ARCEUS WINNING
>>58958072honestly if i can say one good thing about swsh, its regional pokedex is one of the best the series ever had imo, not the new mons, theyre butt ugly, i mean just the regional dex made for it. like despite dexit i think they made good choices all around and its the second best regional dex in the series behind xy imo, which is also a shitty game with a good regional dex, so its funny that sv immediately turned around and had one of the worst regional dexes in the series imo
>>58958038Z-A didn't get reviewbombed?
>>58959546Nah that game was just bad.
