I've never played this before, is it fun?
only if you have four friends with free time to play with and all of them are competent at the gameotherwise you shouldn't touch this game lest you be cursed with eternal misery and tormentsincerely, a Unite general regular
>>58958050Depends. Do you like getting curb stomped by tryhard bugmen?
>>58958050It's a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) aka a Defense of the Ancients (DotA) aka the thing league of legends is. Does that sound FUN to you?
>>58958071league of legends with pokemon does sound fun
My wife and I play it for about a week or so around once a year. It's always neat seeing how the new batch of Pokémon work but while the gameplay itself feels good, the menus are a brutal Chinese gatcha slog
>>58958089Then I'm sorry for your mother that her womb produced something so retarded
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>>589581195+ fucking menus to close before you can actually interact with the game is such a turnoff
It's a very shaved down moba, which makes it less annoying than most to play. You'll be stuck playing with bots for a while since the game sequesters real players behind a rank threshold. The menus suck as other anons said but its a perfectly entertaining time waster if you like slower mobas. It's the only game smart enough to give the pokemon cosmetics. The grind can be rough but it's nothing compared to something like cafe remix.
>>58958050Noits really badits made by chinks and not by Nintendo Japs
>>58958050Not only is it not fun, the general populus is retarded children playing their favorite eevee, so your teammates are guaranteed to be retards
Was pretty fun when I played it a year or so ago. Its completely free so there is not much for you to lose.
>>58958921no the children play le ebin ADCs like Greninja/Cinderace/Owllow IQ furries and girl gamers play eevees (+delphox/ninetales)
>>58958050this is probably the worst mobasi have ever playedliterally everything are bots aside from rank.chinks are too stupid to balance the roster and make a decent matchmaking algorithmyou also get bizzarely sent to japanese lobbys where you lag cause they are so far away and you instantly lose
>>58958050its a stupid scoring gameits stupid and its scummy as fuckthat alone makes me want to nuke and erase chinawtf were they thinking?kill the turrets ans siege the base is a tried and tested true formulayou can win by scummy scorce technicality instead of actual skill.so in turn alot of undeserve unskilled retards gets to play with you and became your team mates
>>58959474Honestly compared to something like backdooring in other mobas which I consider completely braindead scoring was fine. At least until they added the chipmunk pokemon.The rip Zapdos meta was what killed it for me, completely uninteractive and turned the game into a coinflip
>>58958921Incorrect. It's kids playing Lucario/Cinderace/Zeraora/Meowscarada/Greninja and being useless. Like any moba you have to know how to carry
>>58959509Greedent is like the least egregious thing Unite ever did, you're lucky you dropped it when you did.Also backcapping is way worse than backdooring because at least the latter can actually end up winning a game, Unite's 5 years old now and people still ignore the big loud game winning objective in the middle of the map to dunk a pitiful 100 then start rageping when their team dies 4v5 in a matter of seconds due to how bursty the powercreep has gotten. What a goal!
>>58958050MOBAs are anti-fun.
>>58959554>Greedent is like the least egregious thing Unite ever didCompletely disagree, no other pokemon could score goblin well until he came around. The unstoppable running move (basically charizard unite but on a regular move) was still beyond retarded to include. He was single handedly responsible for stuff like score shield being gutted. In a sense, he ended up changing the game more than the braindead broken releases.I remember I had some clutch moments with a friend where we would use Buddy Barrier and then he would score with Score Shield like 3k HP shield and they couldn't interrupt it.The problem with backdooring is that turrets work fine as an early game deterrence and safety measure. Late game it's literally just running up and attacking them and they fall. Then the base does nothing and is also effortless to take down.
>>58959562This. Always confused the fuck out of me how anyone, even mindraped chinks, can enjoy such a soulless dogshit facsimile of a video game.
>>58959596I know what Greedent did to the game, but it doesn't change what I said. If you think it was bad, imagine a stealth ward that stays hidden until it puts you in a 5 second long CC loop that guarantees a kill without counterplay before disappearing again, scores before you can react because of its invisibility, has drugged up mobility because it's permanently sped up while phased and has an ult that forcibly sends an enemy team back to their base. Cause that's release Sableye and this was during Rayquaza final objective which was 10x more broken and flippy than Zapdos.
>>58958050I lasted 3 weeks playing in which I noticed my mood was growing progressively irascible
>lose two games in a row>sent in the babies pen so I can get a free win against stupid bots because they don't want me to get frustrated and stop playing
>>58958050>once you get Rayquaza is guaranteed winThis game is literally dogshit,if you fall behind even by little during a match there's literally no possibility to recover or even carry your casual teammates.Builds with coins are irrelevant and buzzwhole with throw+leech life move combo it's way overpowered at any rank.Jungling is fucking useless since from minute 5 you'll just be forced permanently into one lane.Cosmetics are hella pricy and event's are shit. F2p stuff is given out little by little even to buy new licenses you can take up to 1 month.What this game needs:-proper item building mechanic-at least 5 to 10 minutes longer matches-nerfing some overpowered shit like the mentioned buzzwhole and mewtwo Y -more f2p stuff because i will not waste my fucking time on a game that gives little to none personal satisfaction when playing Gimme allat and I'll start playing again...and before someone commenting bs on my opinion,ill just have you know that i played this game to the point where i was missing just 3 leagues to reach the maximum,so i perfectly know what I'm talking about
>>58959711you almost got me until the last sentence, but that made the bait too obvious
>>58959637Lol you clearly did not experience release greedent and his bugged belch but it's ok. Guess what he could flip zapdos too with it. And do everything.
>>58959637>>58959730Also you are missing the point, I don't care if one is stronger than the other, greedent started it and it sounds like other pokemon just kept on being broken shits. Welcome to fucking MOBAs they release broken characters than nerf them later. I'm mainly talking about the rat playstyle that he popularized
>>58959745That's what happens when Tencent/Riot gets a saying in your MOBA. This is their whole business model.
>>58959730>>58959745I've been playing since the game came out lol Greedent is nothing. There was a meta where Absol had its Psycho Cut buffed so ridiculously much it could solo rip Fug in under a second with invulnerability.And Belch was never bugged, it was an intended mechanic that later got nerfed with an innate base CD between uses. You wanna talk Greedent bugs? They broke Bullet Seed at some point and caused it to get cancelled when hit with any form of CC. Instead of fixing it, they just buffed its damage and called it a "rework" so now the move has been nigh useless ever since because of the endless amounts of needless micro stuns worked into every new mon's kit. You're also fucking stupid for claiming Greedent started it when Stealth Smash Crustle was a score goblin from day 1, score comps were the literal meta in Tournaments with Talonflame and Rollout Wiggly being major culprits and several absurdly broken releases before Greedent that were even worse than it was (bugged Hexgar, Spouttoise and Hyper ratios Sylveon were all more dominant than the squirrel was).
>>58959758crustle was also a notorious flipper lol i remember so many games of ahh ggs the bug put the rocks on the bird let's see who wins this time
I can't believe squirrel mindbreak is still a thing, I almost want to hop back on to annoy people with it but I know I'd end up the one annoyed instead after having to deal with Eeveefaggots
>>58959758no, Crustle was trash stealth/smash did nothing until it was buffed to crit, LMAO you're actually suggesting picking crustle on old map holy shit>There was a meta where Absol had its Psycho Cut buffed so ridiculously much it could solo rip Fug in under a second with invulnerability.ok yeah it sounds like you started after him, especially since all the other stuff you brought up was also significantly after himalso you didn't even bring up plant bitch or dragoniteyeah I'm sorry you're newalso: Yes it was bugged and literally said so in the patch notes.
>>58959863damn you really are fucking dumb, greedent was an october release and tsareena/dragonite were december with dweetdwoot coming between them - there was literally entire an halloween gamemode for unlocking greedent and a santa hat dragonite costume for its release>picking crustle on old maponly one map existed at the time of greedent's release bro theia was added a year later>all the other stuff you brought up was also significantly after himbugged hexgar was a launchmon that caused tons of people to quit the game right off the bat lmaothis shit funny idc if you're baiting keep at it
>>58959889>damn you really are fucking dumb, greedent was an october release and tsareena/dragonite were december with dweetdwoot coming between them - there was literally entire an halloween gamemode for unlocking greedent and a santa hat dragonite costume for its release...no shit? bro you brought up fucking sableye>only one map existed at the time of greedent's release bro theia was added a year laterholy shit I'm talking about crustle retard, you do know you are the one claiming crustle was relevant at this time right, so you give up? He was only ever picked when stealth rock could crit.>bugged hexgar was a launchmon that caused tons of people to quit the game right off the bat lmaook so you got curbstomped by GENGAR the pokemon that only beat absolute retards, called it a bug, quit, and then started later, it makes sense now lol
>>58959920second anon brought up sableye as an example of how things got worse after first anon said they quit because of greeedent lol follow the convo li'l bro
>>58959932the writing was already on the wall before sableye^ TRVTH NVKE
The first month or two of Unite release was really fun, most addicted I've gotten to a multiplayer game in recent times. I can't speak for how it is now, but I think it's a fundamentally solid game that's worth trying, even if you eventually get MOBA cancer and quit.
I went back and watched some old videos of Greedent before its nerfs because of this thread and holy shit. It's so much worse than I thought.And by worse I actually do mean worse, it's so much weaker than I remember it being. People aren't just blowing up the second they're on screen. Buddy Barrier is a thing. 15 seconds to rip Zapdos with Belch is so incredibly slow compared to what I'm been accustomed to with all the power creep over the years. This is what people used to complain about? A mid mon these days is stronger than that. Sometimes the final objective is already dead before the notification it spawned has even had a chance to go away and that's the way it's been for years.Genuinely eye-opening. My god. I miss the old Unite. I miss my pre-rework Mr. Mime. I miss laughing at gargargar. I miss the Greedentposters in /pug/ and the clips we'd share of stupid shit. I miss Cramorant before they took it on a walk in its silly little cowboy outfit and executed it never to be seen again. Fuck
>ummmm but the new character has 1000 dashes and stealth and bajillion damage and can do everything!! the devs are killing the game!!!1Buddy, the game went to shit and all of this was known with the very first Charizard nerf.
>>58959986God damnit I even miss you, Zard nerfs guy. You'd be happy to know that Charizard is triple meta now with both its megas and base form being great options right now.
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>>58959985Well I went to check my vids since I played like all of the 3 weeks with friends and idk, everything this pokemon did is still nonsense to me. That's fucking THREE BELCHES farted out in a second
>>58959726Whatever paypiggy, you're free to stay delusional,idgaf and it's your and any other paypiggy like you,problem, not mine.I'll still play other and much funnier mobas tho
>>58958050It's ok if you want a casual moba to play in bed or something.If you are going to play free though there is a metric fuckton of pointless menus to click through if you want to unlock anything, especially new characters.Sableye is pretty fun though
Sure, but the damage really isn't that special. Cinderace is an incredibly squishy mon and is playing in its face despite outranging Belch, and doesn't appear to be critting or have Blaze Kick's passive buff active while pumping out stupidly high damage that melts a much bulkier Pokemon (and without Rapid Scarf which was released waaaay after this took place). All I can think about is Mimikyu who would legit do 90% of that Cinderace's HP with a single Play Rough, a move that it is invincible during the duration of and can be combo'd into by Shadow Sneak which is completely unreactable due to its range and having a stun upon teleporting to its target and also resets upon KO because why not manI'm not gonna deny that release Greedent was a monster but I will never agree with how badly people made it out to be and I don't think it comes close to any of the horrors that came after or even before it. Sylveon to this day is the only Pokemon to get immediately hotfixed in its own patch immediately after its introduction and Tsareena hit 98% pickrate in matches with no ban options existing at the time and both of these were early seasons Pokemon coming right before/after Greedent. I think Tyranitar is probably still the worst the game's ever been though, it has a mechanic where it does "true damage" aka it just ignores your defenses and shields and does damage straight to your health bar so when it was pumped up on release it could just sit on your goals murdering you and there was nothing you could do about it - didn't help that this was right around the time they reworked Mime into a complete monster that would do more healing than a Blissey ontop of constant stuns and Power Swap making Ttar even stronger with Mew and Dodrio coming shortly after to make things even worse.TL:DR squirrel strong but very weak comparatively this game hates you buy the next furbait's 60+ dollar costume or perish
>>58960992whoops forgot to hit the reply >>58960222
>>58958050It can be both, but mostly it's fun, especially if you play with others and don't metaslaveI'm talking funny shit like Sweet Kiss Comfey + Garchomp or mindbreaking the enemy team with the funny squirrel as mentioned above
>>58960992Bunny was also lvl15, ran to base for a shield and would have died if all 3 connected, it only survived because the squirrel needed to score to win instead of kill. Also with Covet it doesn't have a problem landing Belch. People can still try to counter these broken pokemon. If an assassin is too strong people go to pick a pokemon like Slowbro or Pikachu, for example. If a tank is shitting out AoE, doing whatever it wants, while simultaneously being tankier, Unstoppable and moving faster than your team can, it's a lot harder. I think the best example of this is Absol, where even if it can kill in one button, it also died in one CC. Even if you can kill the Squirrel somehow, again (this part is key) it can always just go rat with unstoppable and ignore you. In general Unite has favored tanky/CC + allrounders, but these also get hit with nerfs more and your team will pick Decidueye instead.Honestly looking at releases, it was definitely the first pushed pokemon. Sylveon got hit almost immediately after release. The other pokemon needed lvl9 to evolve and only Blastoise got relevant buffs at the time. Blissey was obviously good but as a support role which was lacking in unite.
>>58961420>The other pokemon needed lvl9 to evolveactually Piloswine and Kirlia needed level 10 for a while lol, gardevoir was an infamously bad pokemon for a long while as part of the GarGarGar trio (post-nerf Gengar, Garchomp and Gardevoir)also blastoise at the time of release had an unintended exploit with water spout where you could auto while using it meaning it was a permanently fast unstoppable slowing-aoe menace with the best unite in the game by a country mile, people have forgotten over the years but at the time you genuinely couldn't play the game while blastoise was around
Real G's remember when Wiggly Unite would give an entire team mile long shield bars that made it impossible to stop them from dunking. You won? No you didn't, What a Goal! What a Goal! What a Goal! What a Goal! What a Goal!
>>58961483I forgot it was that bad, despite liking mamo.At the very least Blastoise needed a lvl9 evolution so it could fall behind. Also with the charge time and strength of the unite it ironically made it weaker as even brain dead enemies knew to ready their buddy barrier or flash in response. It wasn't that hard for a ranged pokemon to deal with spin as it has joke CC outside of ult.
>>58961632>It wasn't that hard for a ranged pokemon to deal with spinNot true, ranged Pokemon had it the worst. The moment a beyblade tortoise saw you it would zoom up your asshole and rip you a new one because ranged units were naturally frail
>>58961667Not at all, you keep your distance and attack. Cinderace could easily dodge his telegraphed unite with Feint and take him down as he has to massively out position his team to deal damage. Buddy barrier is there if you need more health. Since he lacks burst, you are also getting focus band that he has to go through. If anything the toise was overrated, he needed mass level advantage to be strong.
>>58961801No offense but I really don't think you were there for bugged SpinSpout lol. The mobility it had was far greater than almost every Attacker in the game at the time ontop of its Unstoppable/Slows so there was no getting away from it and even if you commited to running away from it the thing would just use its CD reductions to get its moves back up before you did, and the rest of your team would be too weak to fight back.Let's just look at all the Attackers in the game at the time>pikachu, ninetales, gardevoir all dead in the water with no mobility>penisaur had petal drain but it was not only unviable at the time, it was just a worse spinspout so you'd get diffed>cinderace had feint or flamecharge, but both would only save you for a second before being mowed down and using blaze kick was a non-option since it would place you inside of blastoise plus this was before it was buffed to let you choose where you land so you couldn't do any mix-ups>cramorant's dive was the worst move in the game before its rework and you were throwing if you picked it, air slash was a decent option due to its lifesteal and CD reductions but you had to reach its upgrade level first and give up too much map presence that cram desperately needed for its unite while also having to deal with its annoying ability that cucks you by forcing you to auto>greninja was the only pokemon with the mobility to deal with it but it was considered very unviable at the time due to its unite being completely non-impactful, especially in BB meta where unites decided games, and you had to pick the worse moves to be able to successfully kiteThat's it. The only other ranged mons in the game were Eldegoss (not killing) and Slowbro (a near-mandatory pick to counter unite). I guess you could technically count Gengar but it isn't doing shit
>>58961870Yes Pikachu and shit are dying. Greninja and Cinderace are not. Late game? You kill him bro. It's not hard especially in Unite. He's not surviving running into 5 people spinning.
>>58961870Actually let me break it down how you'd fight spin with these:>Pikachulike everything, you unite. Big shield. Probably die, but you'll be up and ready to unite again.>a9Actually very unusable until the jump buff which easily let it destroy everything>gardevoirdie if you're in range for some reason (you're an ally gardevoir)>venusaurWasn't his DR buffed by then? At the very least EVERY one of these shits ran full heal to dodge unite knock up>CramI mean he just presses unite and hope it works. Blastoise changes nothing and at least it's not slowbro.>GreninjaGreninja players complained about the unite all the time, he was still played and quite strong. Surf was stupid.
The Dragon Ball one is better.
Never lmao
