>pretty much lost contact with Pokemon after gen V>randomly caught a gen 6 movie while watching TV >Hoopa and the whatnot >Hoopa looks awful >but keep watching because the first few scenes show Dialga, Palkia and other cool legendaries>movie is pretty awful all around and way too childish >go watch the first pokemon movie >first scene Mewtwo fucking kills everyone>second scene Giovanni tries to enslave Mewtwo it's fucking insane people will argue "it didn't get worse you just grew up" about Pokemonthe first movie is obviously made for children but it isn't childish
>>58959186Watch Power of us. Its still best Pokemon movie with actual narative.
I’ve never heard anyone say the Hoopa movie was good <—- didn’t and won’t watch it
>>58959186Third movie comes to mind.
nobody says the movies are good, even the XYZfags that glaze the hell out of the Gen 6 anime will say the Gen 6 movies were so bad it practically killed off pokemon movies as a whole
Loss of Shudo and Masuda taking over the franchise killed Pokemon's maturity. The games have been trying to bring it back but all its resulted in is the Millennial writer issue of Ohmori venting about his parents in the games. Don't come back, it's not mature, it's a franchise exclusively for arrested development manchildren that were told they didn't have to grow upNote when you're working on a franchise, never abuse your artists
>>58959186>it's fucking insane people will argue "it didn't get worse you just grew up" about PokemonAll those people are either dishonest shitheads lying to you, or turn off their brains when it comes to pokemon exclusively. I refuse to believe that a site as weeaboo as this can have this many people who haven't seen other children's anime. Pokemon is uniquely sanitized and babyish. Even Disney movies will try not to sugarcoat things half the time and would have things pokefags would call "edgy".
But have you actually watched any of the early episodes lately? I love the mischievousness and pre-franchise sincerity of the early show as much as the next guy, but if you knew Pokemon you knew that Mewtwo Strikes Back has always been a lucky franchise anomaly.
>>58959186Seconding the suggestion to watch Power of Us
Only movie worth a fuck was Heroes but it figures edgetard afterbirths would dickride KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
>>58959186Watch the first three movies subbedAnd search on bulbapedia the radio drama "the birth of Mewtwo>>58959356BW is the closest we got to get a good narrative in the games, inb4 someone posts the munna kick, Ghetsis and N are great characters and the idea of the story is good, they made it more childish with shitty grunts and "and i... I mean... Team Plasma" because Pokémon became corporate garbage after gen 1, but at least there's some substance
>>58959914Ok, hipster.
>>58959929Whatever edgetard. Got your FRLG copy preordered for friday to go back to KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yet?
>>58959918Gen 9 mogs Gen 5 insanely hard in story people just don’t want to admit it because>Gen 9 is post dex cut>Gen 5 is faux mature
>>58959950Every time Pokémon tried to have a good story, something went wrong>Shudo got stopped by TPC>EoS retcons sacrifices>BW has retarded grunts>USUM ruined Lusamine>SV has great climax after 30 hours of nothing
>>58959975>SV has great climaxIf you're lobotomized.
>>58959975>30 hours nothingNemona and Arven both get solid character arcs as does Team Star, the headmaster’s antics are also entertaining. Not sure where this idea that nothing is happening unless we’re fighting evil comes from
Oh yeah if you're just comparing the movies they drop off hard after the third one.
>>58959186The pokemon movies have been bad since gen 3. The only decent one after the first three is Power of Us (Zeraora’s movie). Also>watching because DiaPer, the ugliest and shittiest legendaries of all time, were on screenYou’re still the target demographic, clearly. Just throw some jangling keys in your face and you yield like the dog you are.
>>58959950To me, the reason I feel this way is because I like BW's cast, but don't really care about SV's.
>>58959186Anon Pokémon has always been shit, you're not supposed to care about the story just the monsters, and yes, I'm talking in general from the games to the anime.Ffs imagine expecting good storytelling from Pokémon
>>58959312Always heard people shit on the Hoopa movie but I never saw anyone shit on either the Diancie or Volcanion movies
>>58960455>Ffs imagine expecting good storytelling from PokémonWhy not? Pokémon tried many times, see>>58959975, these stories have flaws, but it's more because TPC puts limits than a lack of talent.I mean, Doraemon movies are for kids as well, but these are well written
>>58960474>I mean, Doraemon movies are for kids as well, but these are well writtenno no no /vp/ told me ALL kid's franchises are MEANT to be safe slop
>>58959364Pokemon used to have an edge to it including guns, references to war, sexy outfits for the females, etc. But it was literally western audiences and western markets insisting that it be baby-ified
>>58959914Is it any better in japanese? I watched it dubbed and thought it was pretty shit, think the localized version cut out the fossils.>>58959975EoS?
>>58960595Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky
>>58960595Every Pokemon movie is better subbed imo, also they added a darker filter on the dubbed version for no reason
pokemon is dora the explorer or Teletubbies tier
>>58959918>BW is the closest we got to get a good narrative in the gamesRead a book you faggot
>>58960685Name 3 books
>>58960685all books exist outside the category of pokemon games so the point stands regardless
>>58960709It doesn't stand because BW doesn't have anything close to a good story. You would know this if you ever read a book. You're esl anyways so maybe just don't talk.
>>58960800>BW doesn't have anything close to a good storyWhy? Because the only problem i see with it are the retarded grunts that undermine the premise, that's a strong flaw, but N and Ghetsis are well written
>>58960595Yeah, by virtue of not being hamfisted by NoA to try and not make the poképhilia love story at the heart of it so obvious.
>>58960819>Why?It's predictable, the writing is simple, the characters are all basic cliches, it doesn't require any knowledge of anything outside of pokemon, it over explains itself, and it's boring.
>>58960824Yeah but thats on point for the pokemon brand. We've basically been playing the same rehashed story 10 times since gen 1. I play pokemon to relax and unwind not do a literary analysis of a plot on par with war and peace.
>>58960824The idea of using your country’s mythology to manipulate the masses, by using a twenty year old adult whose growth you’ve denied by making him live among toy trains, only for him to fall into a deep crisis because he can't understand the nuances of reality... Honestly, that sounds like good writing to me
>>58959186>>go watch the first pokemon movieI hope you watched the Japanese version instead of the dub like a loser. Also, the first 3 movies were written by Takeshi Shudo who wanted the anime to be targeted at all ages instead of just kids which explains your disconnect.
>>58960832>thats on point for the pokemon brandYeah, so it must take a real retard to sayBW is the closest we've ever gotten to a good story when they're all equally bad.
>>58960856kek
>>58960497>But it was literally western audiences and western markets insisting that it be baby-ifiedNo, it was Nintendo who wanted the franchise to be more kid friendly. Stop hanging out on X & being a culture war tourist who insists that the West is responsible for everything wrong with your precious Japanese franchises & that Japanese creators have no agency.
>>58960595>Is it any better in japanese?What do you think dubfag?
