>You begged for Megas to return for 13 years>They were met with ridicule or apathywhat went wrong?
>>58960364I loved Z-A but I wish the DLC was more, uh, playable.
>>58960364I always hated megas. It was the nepobaby factory for pokemon gimmicks.Yeah our gen gimmick is 3% of the pokedex gets cool new toys! And everybody else can get fucked.Terras are way better, even shitty dynamax was better. Doesn't help that most megas look absolutely awful on top of that either.
>>58960364Why are you conflating the opinions of literal thousands of people and calling it a contradiction? Are you that bored?
>>58960364They obviously can't design Mega Evolutions anymore
>>58960364I never asked for Megas doebeit
Kids grow up.
>>58960364Because we can't use them outside za yet. No abilities, no standard move sets, no vgc/smogon. That's 90% of pokemon's end game. Funny/cool/stupid looking creatures do the particle effect lasers in silly game that is pretty fucking mid. Terra is still the best mechanic, hands down.I just wish they didn't have the stupid hats.
>>58960377Mega evolutions have always been goofy shit, the first batch is on the same level of quality as modern megas you are just blinded by nostalgia because it was new to you at the time.
>>58960409.
>>58960420I'm glad pokemon doesn't just do "generic cool dragon #3467" every other series doesShit like Monster Hunter, they're all forgettable
>>58960364>megas are back>in a game with no abilities and completely different battle mechanicswhat was the fucking point? Mega Kang is a joke without its ability. The last game that had megas was fucking LGPE, which ALSO didn't have abilities. They're doing this fucking bullshit on purpose. I won't give a fuck until they're back in a game that actually matters.
>>58960364I know you won't believe me because /vp/ is one person, but I never cared for them to begin with.
>>58960420I think mega Feraligatr is fine. It's one of those pokemon that looks much better moving than it's idle pose.
>>58960423>no yeah, actually the franchise with the best monster designs in any game pales in comparison to toilet dragonThis is how stupid you sound
>>58960364the only people begging for them were 18 year old zoomers who believe megas are somehow above the other gimmicks and more "true to pokemon" bc their first games were XY.I just want them to give us a brand new dex again with 0 recycled designs and 0 filler.
>>58960436Best designs liked... blue dragon. red dragon. Brown dragon... (falls asleep)
>>58960364>Megas...are BACK>but...without ABILITIESWhat did Gayfreak mean by this?
>>58960420Mega Feraligatr is by far the most absolute dogshit design this garbage series has ever shat out, like good lord its atrocious
>dskikes itt are still trying to push the "mega feraligatr is a bad design"meme
>>58960364Because it made some fans realize that mega evolution is more than just cheap fanservice.>>58960409>Mega evolutions have always been goofy shit...And in the end, nobody cared about them. In Z-A they're more relevant only because TPC chose Mega Dragonite and Starmie (and Mega Tatsugiri in the DLC) to be the representatives of that game.>>58960374>>58960381>>58960425>>58960456These>>58960426>mega Feraligatr is fine.Nope
>>58960364>put a unova mon in any group of moms from any other region>the unova mon always stick outfunny how that work
>>58960476Cope typedo. You lost the starter war
>>58960483
>>58960483Well no shit a fictional creature would look out of place next to some moms
>>58960489>Typhlosion didn't get a mega because he was in the Epstein files
>>58960483None of those Megas are in Unova silly
>>58960364>13 years>Sword/Shield released in 2019Megas literally never left. They just never got additions in S/M.
>>58960423But "generic cool dragon" is literally one of the main reasons Pokemon is popular, you fucking tard. Kids saw this fucker on the box and knew they HAD to have the game because they wanted the cool fire dwagon.
>>58960364Funny how the kalos starters and black charizard are the only one that ended up being relevant at all
>>58960506>But "generic cool dragon" is literally one of the main reasons Pokemon is popular I didn't know pikachu was a generic dragon good to know i guess
>>58960506Yes and unlike the other lesser IP's, they didn't muddy the water by introducing a slew of OTHER "generic cool dragons" to interfere with 'Zards reach. See the difference?
>>58960489Feraligatroons and meganiumfags having to pretend to like embarf just to shill their antityphlosion propaganda will always be the lowest of lows for johto
>>58960500>they t-totally made new megas>and not an entire new gimmick and design philosophy /vp/ try to not be a disingenuous cunt level impossible
>>58960423You would have a point if Pokemon had a single design as good as Namielle's
>>58960517Problem with that, Pikachu was only on the box in Yellow, AFTER Pokemon became a massive success due to Charizard being a perfect vehicle for marketing with no context other than "it's an RPG where you can GET THIS COOL FIRE DRAGON!!!"At the time of RG's launch in Japan, jap kiddos didn't know what Pikachu was until they already bought Pokemon and discovered it in Viridian Forest or through word of mouth of other kids who bought Pokemon because they saw Charizard on the box.Pikachu became the mascot after RG's release, yes, but it wouldn't have had that sheer appeal and reach without Charizard to initially draw the snot-nosed brats in..
>>58960519What the fuck are you talking about, there are 3 different Charizards alone, and an entire type dedicated to le epic dwagons
>>58960423> Shit like Monster Hunter,You mean a franchise with devs that respects its monsters? A franchise with fans who aren’t cunts? What a nightmare. >they're all forgettable As if normies care about anything outside the 20 shillmons and KANTOOOOOOOOOOO, and they only care about those because they’ve been virally marketed nonstop since the 90’s.
>>58960377>They obviously can't design Mega Evolutions anym...
>>58960364People wanted megas in a game they could actually enjoy, wild concept I know
>>58960550So basically they were asking for LGPE, which they already had and dismissed because of its GO mechanics?Wow, this fanbase is retarded.
>>58960548>Electric type has fur in the shape of a lightning boltI fail to see what's wrong here especially since regular Manectric never had a particularly appealing design to begin with
>>58960555>So basically they were asking for LGPEI said something they could enjoy anon Read slower next time
>>58960562>literally the second highest rated mainline title in that imageYes, that's a good game people enjoyed. But like most mainline Pokemon titles, it was reviewbombed by spergs who were never the intended audience and were mad that Pokemon hasn't considered them the primary demographic since they were 10 years old.
>>58960491No troon, typhlosion didn’t get a mega be used it’s the one that isn’t a forced shillmon
>>58960364Who the fuck thought turning Feraligatr into a toilet was a good idea
>>58960586Executives who saw Skibidi Toilet was popular with today's youth and wanted to try and cash in on kids who'd grow attached because of its resemblance to the toilet heads.
>>58960374the gimmick mostly doesn't even go to mons that need itit exists just to wank off the popular mons, even giving two special snowflake forms to some of themi prefer regular z moves, dynamax and tera over this preferential crap
>>58960579>But like most mainline Pokemon titles, it was reviewbombedExplain why PLA wasn't, despite coming out in-between two of the lowest scoring games in that list while LGBT was riding off of the high of USUM
>>58960649Because it did something different from the usual formula that happened to align with the wants of spergs. It's just that unlike spergs, most fans aren't petty enough to go back and reviewbomb a game they dislike, because people had already stopped caring about PLA outside of shiny hunting not even a month after its release due to the announcement of Scarlet and Violet.
>>58960506It's funny hearing people trying to disparage generic cool dragons as if that shit doesn't get ate up by everyone. Who the fuck wouldn't want a cool dragon? The same goes for waifumons even though I'm not a fan of them. You gotta make what moves merch and sells games.
>>58960586You can thank the FreakLeak pedophile for being a Feraligatr fan. Game Freak had told him to delete his disgusting stories from the company hard drive but as you know he didn’t, leading to shit like this>>58960491 Disney gets their panties in a twist when parents want to honor their child with a spider man tomb stone, logically (unless you want to be a schizo and say Game Freak designed typhlosion to flop) game freak would and should be royally pissed that typhlosion is being linked to fucking pedophilia, which all right minded people would consider more insulting than being used to honor a cancer patient. Thing is the freak leak pedo probably has tenure or something they can’t fire him, and game freak obviously can’t do eye to an eye and write blood libel against Feraligatr since they would just be shooting themselves in the foot. Turning its mega into a toilet weaker than its own baby was the best compromise
>mental delusion to handle being shown exactly how unpopular her favouritest crocodillydileums was in home market
>>58960423I would love generic cool dragons over the absolute dogshit they've been pumping out over the past decades.At least monhun monsters actually look like cool fucking monsters. Rathalos is just a generic dragon with pointy ears and a pseudo beak thingy taped on it, and yet it still mogs every dragon in pokemon who are all ugly fat jobbers with retarded proportions.
ZA should have had cross gen evos instead of megashit.
>>58960649>worst selling pokemon game on switchpls didn’t get reviewbombed because nobody actually played it.
>>58960655>Because it avoided most of the flaws that fans hated about other games. Ergo they rated it higher than the other games. Fixed it for you
>>58960537Yes, three clear evolutions of 'Zard's design, along with a mix of draconic-inspired strongmons, none of which are in fact "generic cool dragon - Zard type". Tell me how that's muddying the waters with 'Zard, when three build off on it and the rest don't even bother trying to imitate it?
>>58960680So why is PLA not one of Pokemon's absolute best sellers, then? Surely if it was such a universally praised game it would have reached the immaculate highs of selling over 25 million copies?
>>58960674>it thinks 15m sales is bad, let alone bad enough to disingenuously tag as "worst selling pokemon game on switch"
>>58960436>the franchise with the best monster designs in any gameLmao
>>58960649Because it looked and sounded like breath of the wild.
>>58960436If MH's designs were best, then why isn't it the franchise that makes literal billions in annual revenue?
>>58960688Because it wasn’t marketed, and game freak self sabotaged by releasing it just after the holiday rush, letting BDMS cannibalized its sakes then releasing Scarlet and Violet just after. Few people played it but the most of the few who did liked it
>>58960713So its dogshit?
>>58960718>Because [EXCUSES]So it's a game that only spergs enjoyed because no one else was interested due to not being as good as spergs claim it is, got it.Also, very good English. Did you get that from a Twitter account ran in Dubai?
>>58960716>then why isn't it the franchise that makes literal billions in annual revenue?Do you think hello kitty is some brilliantly designed mascot with a ton of thought put into its appearance
>>58960584why did that make you mad of all things? did you go to the island?
>>58960733Yes? A good design is a profitable design, the Sanrio gang are proof of this just as much as Pokemon's most well-known monsters.
>>58960725>there are more people have rotten garbage in their house than people with gold >gold is worth less than rotten garbage
>>58960747>hating rape makes you went to the island Are you retarded?
>>58960755Damn, you sure changed your tune about PLA real quick if you're calling it rotten garbage now. Glad you came around to understanding that LGPE is a good game though.
Why did they pick those 3 starters anyway?
>>58960766he got called a troon for making a dumb joke. seems like an overreaction. but you also seem angry for no reason so i'll leave you be
>>58960364Well Z-A combat is atrocious for one. The new megas were also absolute dogshit for the most part.So what else do you expect?
>>58960774Because those are the one ls devs wanted to promote to shillmons. Shillmons don’t need a rhyme or reason
>>58960789Starters ARE shillmons, you hideously retarded wreck. And frankly nothing's getting ascended into constant, when the Kalos trio drew all focus away from the starter choice set and only one of them was industry planted to constant.
>>58960818>>58960789>ShillmonsMega dragonite was the most shilled ZA mega.
>>58960822Yes, because they wanted to keep the Mega Evolutions for the starters a surprise to entice players to buy the game, pick their favorite starter, and play until they obtained the Mega Stone for their starter.If you could just see the Megas right out the gate before the game even released, there wouldn't be as much purchasing incentive.It's the same reason a new generation will wait until the final month or post-launch before they officially show off the starter evolutions, they want the suspense and mystery to encourage purchase so players can see what their starter becomes.
>>58960829Game has been out for months and they still don't even bother to shill the starters. Hell the mega dimension DLC trailer had the starters get their asses kicked by random mons.
>>58960818> Starters ARE shillmons
>>58960833Yes? This is how DLC marketing works, you show the new mons kicking the old mons' asses to incentivize the purchase of DLC, because the kiddins want strong mons who can wreck shit.They also did this with the SWSH DLC mons kicking base SWSH mon ass, and SV DLC mons kicking base SV mon ass.
>>58960716Because they were designed to be monsters instead of marketable merchandise designed by committee to have as wide appeal as possible
>>58960840Even after that the starters aren't shown off at all. They know they were fucking mistakes.
>>58960841So they made the designs bad on purpose, else MH would be a billionaire franchise, got it.
>>58960374Hidden abilities made or broke way more pokemon than megas.
>>58960822Yep. Doesn't discount what I said. Starters of any game are the faces and shillmon of said game (Mega Dimensions having all three in the official art splash) and people wanted megas for the Kalos group 13 years ago, so any other mega set added for the starters would get summarily ignored. STAGGERING people don't understand the starters of L: Z-A were chosen to not interfere with the reception of the Kalos starters, when all of them were actually visibly unpopular or ignored regarding internet chatter going back 15 years on /vp/ and further on the pokémon internet of the era, then get pissy when none of them reach the level of popularity of the Kalos set, let alone 'Zard and the big boys. I love me fire piggod. But I love by broomstick-surfing milphox more and concede despite how much I love it, others prefer the badass actual dragonzard to either. And know next Gen, TPC are going to go back to pushing the shonen shillmon fursuit squad with no sign of Phoxy or Chesnaught (or crocogatr or pigman)
>>58960646>it exists just to wank off the popular mons, even giving two special snowflake forms to some of themYet both of Garchomp's mega evolutions suck with Z even losing Ground STAB.
>>58960843Yeah? Because their time in the limelight was over. They served their purpose as a source of pre-release suspense, and because they aren't brand new Pokemon, they had no chance of having lasting power. They were always designed to be temporary shillmons, the same way mons like Wooloo and Lechonk had legs during their respective games' prerelease season but immediately nosedived after launch.
>>58960661Fat winged manlet
>>58960848OG Mega Chomp is great in LZA, though. Since speed is an irrelevant stat, it can actually be the menace they wanted it to be from the very start.
>>58960846>Meowscarada didn't get a mascot suitFailed shillmon. Should have made it actually cool instead of pandering to femoids and jizzbrains who worship said femoids.
>>58960838>are used in marketing related to the games and/or associated generation (Hisuian set/L: Z-A bunch)>are used as representatives for respective Gens as backdrop and collection presentations>"nope, amn't an shillmon bekuze dey's not charitarded liek me!"There are two types of shillmon - constants (Pikachu, Eevee, 'Zard, gengar, 'Chompy) and generational (starters in general, pseudos in general, gimmick forms in particular) Starters are always generational shillmon, even if few ever get elevated to constant (to date, only two true final stage starters have made it there - Pika and Eevee were ascended to the role of Starter) because for 3/4 years they're the creatures all kids get introduced to the games alongside, the merch that gets most produced outside the constants and the focus of the anime series, kids watching the creatures grow and evolve while the thing runs.
>>58960876>it flopped because it panders to coomer furries instead of gay furries This is how you sound like
>>58960882>So jizzbrained that they can't comprehend someone liking a pokemon design outside of coomer reasons
>>58960885Pokemon is a franchise that cares about MEMES AND PORN though, because it knows all the kids are too busy playing Italian Brainrot games on Roblox.
>>58960885>liking a pokemon design outside of coomer reasons That's like the only reason if you like furshitters
>>58960364I didn't beg for shit bro megas were always boringI wanted maybe one or two specific mons to get them everything else should get regionals
>>58960364>thats right, thats me. the pig from journey to the west.
>>58960876>the feminine starter shockingly did not get a representative in the group exclusively designed to a male shonen superhero templateYeah, they didn't try and shill Primarina with men or Delphox with boys either in Gen 7 or 6. Don't know why you think they'd try and push Meow to that demographic either, outside of being gay and in denial about Meow's origins naturally.
What went wrong?
>>58960364I hoped they wouldnt bring them back, then ridiculed them when they did. The internet is more than two people.
>>58960898Faggot manchildren assuming they owned pokémon in the first place.
>>58960897>Retard thinks the duck and clown croc are supposed to be doronjo's sidemen
>>58960897Its because feminine starters are failures.
>>58960908>gay faggot and fat retardI mean, is he wrong to think that?
>>58960908>retard ignores the chief inspiration for the sexy catgirl in PokémonThe rest is a stretch but amusing given what the other two turned out as. Still doesn't delete the fact Moew's Pokémon Doronjo, doubly so because /vp/ was raised on gay western cartoons instead of 70's/80's/90's shit like most of Game Freak today.
>>58960898The base forms of the bottom are infinitely more popular than the base forms of the top and skibidigatr completely shits the bed on any chance the top had
>>58960898Fucking everything
>>58960915Meganium is the most girly shit ever and it became a shillmon
i'm legit surprised they didn't shit out a mega evo for the ugly clown.
>>58960917>Gay faggot and fat retardEmboar and inceleon aren't part of that trio.
>>58960924I didn't ignore it. Still a shit pokemon design regardless.
>>58960364The designs sucked. It's that simple.
>>58960966You're right they aren't :)
The trio should have been Serperior,Emboar and Empoleon so they would have a weapons theme.
>>58960364>youSmartest phoneposter
>>58960933They were probably in deadlock over whether or not it should be a Mega for classic Mime or Galar's Mr. Rime, seeing as how G.Mime and Mr. Rime are basically Jynx's replacements for whenever they aren't obligated to bring back all 151 in a given scenario.
>still no mega flygon>gen 4 giga shillmon garchomp got a fucking 2nd mega
>>58960364>>They were met with ridicule or apathyStarmie, Lucario, Absol, and Chandelure were all pretty well-liked. But really you’re always going to get a lot of apathetic reactions solely due to how many designs this series shits out. I will say that Mega Feraligatr is notably atrocious.
>>58961007Mega Flygon went the way of Gorochu, by admitting it was planned and then scrapped, they basically said "it's never happening, give up" due to GameFreak's ideology of "if we tell them about this scrapped idea, it's perma-scrapped".Which is REALLY funny in Mega Flygon's case because it was literally never planned in the first place, Sugimori just made that shit up on the fly for the Nintendo Dream interview in order to draw more intrigue to the magazine. No concepts, drafts or anything of the sort from the ORAS portion of the Teraleak, Mega Flygon simply did not fucking exist at any point whatsoever.
>>58960423I'll never understand why MH is people's go-to example for "muh generic" argument. Monster Hunter does an incredible job crafting unique gimmicky creature that are justified with inticrately designed fantasy biologies that explain how the monster could reasonably exist/function and then it'll throw the farting mushroom monkey your way while making a joke about some guildmarm wanting to fuck the exploding boxing slime dino. It's designs are far from being generic.People treat every design like it's Anjanath and it's insane, the series will never recover from Worldslop.
>>58961021worlo's deisgns arent even that bad. Anajanath is pretty lame but everything else from gen 5 was nice.
>>58961016To be fair Mega Raichu X is basically a gorochu spiritual successor
>>58961021This thing could snap shitzard neck in a single punch
>>58960364>You begged for Megas to return for 13 yearsno wtf, stop lying
>>58961027Yeah I'll admit I'm just jabbing at World for the sake of it, you know the vibes, but it really is representative of how the series started to shift in direction.I wish Bazelgeuse ended up being the casual World favourite instead of Anja, a timeline where we got tactical nuke jet bomber pandering would be so much funnier
>>58961077>I wish Bazelgeuse ended up being the casual World favourite instead of AnjaI mean, it did.Normies only care about Anjanath insofar as they can pretend it was a "filter"
>>58961096That's what I meant by casual, was talking about the casual fans. Could have made it clearer lol my b
>>58961007>mega flygon mogged by mega crabominablewe can't stop losing flygonxisters!
>>58960364>You begged for Megas to return for 13 yearsI didn't
>>58960364Nearly all of them are shit
>>58960364>There a timeline thats pokemon not become gimmick runSadly we're not on it
>>58960364My bros Emboar and Chesnaught got amazing mega. SO I won.
>>58961027Fulgur is very cool and I'm tired of pretending he's not https://youtu.be/u3wDS7kykIA?t=18
>>58960898Mega Feraligatr and Emboar in general
