and thus..it begins..
>>58964222Crazy that has over 600 replies when the answer is easily found within a few seconds
>>58964222kek
>>58964222Lmao, my zoomer sister droped pre gen 6 because of this.
>>58964252She hot?
>>58964254I'm also asking, is she hot?
>>58964277I third this question. The people want to know.
Silph co. puzzle and the elite 4 are going be huge filters for normies
The funny thing is that gen 1 games had the EXP. ALL item that worked like modern games exp.share, except you could turn it off by depositing it in your PC
>>58964330rock tunnel will filter them hard
>>58964374It did not worked like modern exp share. It just divided experience between all six Pokemon, effectively being absolutely useless.
>>58964330They gonna shit themselves when they find out that you can't run from the start of the game. Running Shoes are post-Brock.
>>58964222Aw man they have no idea.>Pre-physical special split>TMs are single use>Handholding stops after PewterThis is going to be great.>>58964330They're going to make Claude look like a genius.
>>58964434Don't forget how the bag isn't infinite>They're going to make Claude look like a genius.kek
>>58964434At least for most basic stuff there's help system and lol Teachy TV.Gamefreak really cooked with all the interactive tutorials in FRLG. Pretty much everything is explained but it's neatly packed so it's not getting in player's way. It's probably the best help system in any game I can think about rn.
>>58964252Have you fucked her yet? :D
>>58964330If I can figure out Silph Co as a impatient retarded 6 year old so can they
>>58964252We need scientific data, anon!
>>58964222I hope Genwunners are ready for any and all discussion of Kanto from here on out to be swarmed by alphatrads pissing and shitting themselves over "grinding" and whatever minor nitpicks they can think up. You've been warned.>>58964330The real filter is them realizing the exp. share is locked behind catching 50 different Pokemon and then showing your Pokedex to Oak's aide.
>>58964584>catch 50 Pokemon to get a version of EXP Share that's a huge downgrade to what they're used to>the Safari Zone as a whole>using a full team of 6 will keep you underleveled by the E4 unless you go out of your way to grind and they can't handle being a lower level than NPCs despite having unlimited access to items>don't save before the birds and kill them accidently, they're gone forever>get roared by Raikou or Entei, they're gone forever>Golbat and Chansey can't evolve until postgame>can't get Espeon or Umbreon at allThe normalfag meltdowns are going to be funny
>>58964222Yeah well it's a legitimate grievance to have. Grinding is the most boring, tedious, pointless part of any game. And even if you play the game and beat every single trainer you'll be under-leveled for the E4 and champion so you have to either go spam the VS Seeker (which is hidden away in the Vermilion Pokemon Center when it really should have been something given to you via scripted event or a new Oak's Aide or something) for several hours in victory road or go battle wild pokemon for even longer in victory road.Grinding is cringe, and if you think otherwise, you're someone who does not value their own time and thus has no value as a person.
>>58964700You can beat the e4 with level 1 shitmons grinding is never a necessity
still not refuted btw
>>58964721Clefairy can only be caught at level 8 in the first room of Mt. Moon.
>>58964730So if Clefairy was lv12 it would have been able to beat the Pidgeotto?
>>58964721you're not supposed to speedrun the game
>>58964740If you bothered to actually use the Clefairy in Mt. Moon, it could easily be at a level to handle the rival, especially if you used the Moon Stone to evolve it.This is like picking up a caterpie in Viridian Forest, saving it to the E4 without ever using it, then wondering why it gets killed so easily. You own image only serves to prove that the EXP share is a mistake.
>>58964759>If you bothered to actually use the Clefairy in Mt. Moonuse it on what?
>>58964717What you're of course leaving out is that FEAR and all those other cheese strats require very specific movesets and items and also breeding, which in FRLG you cannot gain access to until the postgame. The only other way to have a Level 1 Pokemon in kanto is to cheat one in with PKHex or similar save editors, or to trade one over from another copy that's already gotten to the postgame.So yes, you are technically correct, but functionally 99.9% of players will never do that, and it is certainly not the way the game is intended to be played.
>>58964750Difference between speedrunning and wasting my time. Grinding is a tedious waste of my precious time. I have many other things to do than run back and forth in tall grass fighting shitmons to get 5 EXP per shitmon for 20 hours.>>58964684>catch 50 Pokemon to get a version of EXP Share that's a huge downgrade to what they're used toWhich shows it's not worth doing. Waste of time.>the Safari Zone as a wholeWas always dogshit, and it's why it got cut from the games after Gen 4.>using a full team of 6 will keep you underleveled by the E4 unless you go out of your way to grindAnd people whine about Johto's level curve. Kanto's is far worse.>they can't handle being a lower level than NPCs despite having unlimited access to itemsYeah, because you're going to be a good 5-10 levels below the E4's teams if you just beat e very single trainer in the game before the E4 and don't spend hours upon hours doing tedious grinding with the VS seeker or wild pokemon. It's bad game design. You need to be within 4 levels of another pokemon to reliably beat it. The math has been done.>don't save before the birds and kill them accidently, they're gone foreverThis is bad game design, as later games fixed this. Sure, you can save beforehand and that's what I did back in the originals, but it's still tedious bullshit.>get roared by Raikou or Entei, they're gone foreverClassic game Freak, proving they're worse at coding a game than Bethesda and always have been. This is a glitch that should have been caught during development.>Golbat and Chansey can't evolve until postgameSame with Scyther and Onix who I don't think can evolve at all in FRLG due to the lack of a Metal Coat, and it's retarded that's the case.>can't get Espeon or Umbreon at allWhich is, again, retarded and because GF are lazy faggots who cut features every gen.
>>58964740If Clefairy was Level 12 you could have slapped Water Gun oh wait that's why people prefer OG Red/Blue
>grindingYou're bad at a game made for kids.
still not refuted btwhttps://youtu.be/eZQtia9ZyyQ
>>58964805this git gud lmao
>>58964254>>58964277>>58964291Yes she is very hot
>>58964473I wish
>>58964434>Pre-physical special splitWas it really that bad?
>>58964721ur supposed to switch it out then tank the switch in with your starter lol
>>58964766Against trainers and wild Pokemon. There are plenty of them in Mt. Moon.https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mt._Moon
>>58964936it's only shit for a handful of pokemon, like gyaradosthe biggest factor imo are the elemental punches which are special and is a pretty decent buff to mons like alakazam and i guess gengar but you dont get them in the main playthrough anyway
>>58964936Not really, but from normies that's started with gen 6+ will be
>>58964954>sagie is so desperate that he’s pretending gen 4 and 5 don’t have the split now just to ride gen 3’s coattailsgrim
>>58964954>eslkek
>>58964222>zoomies are too dumb to use claudedark ages incoming
>>58964997zoomies don't want to eat techbro slop.
>>58964936Just different, like not having access to berries or affection perks
>>58964985>yawnie downie still pretends every other anon is her ex lover sagie chad.Grim
>>58964953>125 base attackYeah gyarados is so screwed over
>>58964785>lack of metal coatYou didn't play the game
>>58964936Not to me since I'm used to it, but it'll be new to them. The elemental punches all being special is strange. The only real goofy aspect is Dark being special since every Dark move is described as a physical action, and when the split happened the only special dark moves were ones introduced in gen4.
>>58964936Only if you are braindead, you don't have to ALWAYS use just STAB moves. Just give gyarados Body Slam and it will OHKO 99% of the game.
>>58964531>>58964473>>58964291>>58964277>>58964254You know that you are more than likely lusting after an underaged girl right? And i thought this board couldn't get more desperated
>>58964936It's not bad, it's just not super intuitive so newfags that don't know how it works get tilted when they teach their Hitmonchan Thunder punch and it sucks ass
>>58964931What race are you?
>>58964936It wouldn't be that bad if they explained it to you in-game. As it stands, the physical-special split made things much more intuitive.
>zoomers when they find out they can’t have i9999 rare candies like their favourite nuzlocker in that game
Kanto has so many trainer fights that you will always have exp.
>>58965095
>>58964785>my precious timeso you have time to play a pokemon game when you're such a busy adult, you just have no time to exp grind? What are you busy doing? Masturbating? You have to get back to masturbating? Fuck you idiot.
>>58964446Oh shit, FRLG doesn't have a infinite bag? Now I'm actually panicking
>>58964721This has been refuted several times, why don't the mods ban this retard already. You're playing the game wrong, there's literally a sign in petalburg woods explaining how to switch train your pokemon, and your Clefairy could have only come from the very start of Mt. Moon but you never used it until you were way ahead of when it would have been able to train against the npcs. Firing squad, burning alive, and hanging are genuinely too good for you, someome should skin you alive.
>>58965800So if Clefairy was lv12 it would have been able to beat the Pidgeotto?
>>58964684>can't get Espeon or Umbreon at allI thought espeon and ubreon were version exclusives? Like if you maxed eevees friendship with eevee in the post game in fire red you get espeon and in leaf green you get umbreon
>>58964412I prefer 1/6th the experience over everyone getting 100% and being overleveled.
>>58965821You can only get them by trading to RSE
>>58965829>I prefer the item being completely pointless to use
>>58965525NTA but I get it.
>>58964684>can't get Espeon or Umbreon at allI don’t get why this triggers normalfags so much. They never complained about ursaluna, kleavor, wyrdeer or alolan raichu being unobtainable in sv without transfer, so why is it only a problem whrn frlg does it?
>>58965130On the internet, nobody knows you're a cat.
>>58965846I'll give you a hint.
>>58965834Yes, it's almost like dumping all your experience into your ace makes for a stronger team than sharing experienceIf I could have my starter gain 3.5X experience I would
>>58964222how can these niggers call themselves fans when they clearly haven't played the remakes, let alone the OGs. fucking tourists keep ruining everything
>>58964330"Puzzle", just use your eyes. It's like calling those mazes on the back of a milk carton a puzzle.
Modern exp share just needs to be 1/4 of the exp gained and not 1/2. I would say that only the Pokemon that battled should get EVs but that would make EV training more tedious.
>>58965619Ooga booga, oh no! N-n-not inventory management!! How will newgentards ever recover!?
>>58965821What retard told you that? They're entirely unobtainable because it's impossible to meet their evolution requirement becaude there's no RTC.
>>58964222Wait till they find out TMs are one time use.
>>58966426You don't have to be mean
>>58964936Gengar. Ghost and Poison are both physical. Basically every special move it can learn are either 1 time TMs or locked away in emerald. For an in game team, Hitmoncan is unironically better.
>>58965046>The elemental punches-Are not available in FRLG.
WHEN DOES IT UNLOCK ITS ALREADY FRIDAY AAAAAA
>>58966461When you can't handle basic game design, yes I fucking do. I'm not going to coddle you like mommy, if you can't handle having to shuffle your items around and manage supplies for the next area, then you're beyond help and probably shouldn't be playing these games. If you wanna play an old video game, pic related should be more your speed seeing as it plays itself if you idle too long. Plenty of time to look at the bright colors and stay away from all that brain-hurty thinking stuff.
>>58966426wtf anon you made him crysay sorry
>>58966484Oh bite me, jackass.
>>58964936It's not bad per se, just unintuitive. To begin with, the game doesn't even tell you which types are which.
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SWITCH OUT YOUR MON AND WASTE HOURS DOING THIS TO PROPERLY LEVEL ITDo people here just take joy in wasting their time over nothing instead of actually trying to engage with the stuff in game?
>zoomers don't want to experience a challenge.oh just wait until they challenge the elite4 a second time when the teams are in their 60s with post kanto pokemon. I think Blue (or Green) had a Tyranitar in his setup. what other walls will they encounter. Brock with charmander? does charmander even learn metal claw anymore? oh and the safari zone is going to be fun to watch. and they wont even know moltres is at mt.ember at the sevii islands.
>>58966585>the stuffSuch as?
>>58966585Working towards completing the dex isn't engaging?
>>58966501that's it you're not invited to the birthday party
>>58964684It’s the first time I’ve ever felt like a “boomer”. Thinking how all this stuff felt like a privilege >getting so fucking amped to see rhyhorn in safari zone
>>58966591Zoomers notoriously love bullshit challenge stuff, they're the kind of people who will do stupid garbage like 50/20 in FNaF or a no death celeste run for the funsiespokemon's not a hard game at all just boring
>>58964936It's a pokemon game, it's probably barely noticeable.
>>58966591>does charmander even learn metal claw anymore?this is the game where charmander gained metal claw
>>58964936It's not bad, but it will catch a lot of new players off guard.
>>58965846Because you can't transfer anything into this release.
>>58966580FRLG tells you in it's interactive help system.
>>58964484I still remember clearing out each floor one at a time, then testing out each warp panel to find where I needed to go.Can’t wait to see dummies fail at a simple dungeon made for children
>>58966799Oh shit really? I never gave its help system a glance since I was already a vet by the time FRLG came out. Next time I play it I'll have to take a look at it out of curiosity.
>>58964785>Was always dogshitAbysmal taste.The Safari Zone, especially the one in Kanto jam packed with rare Pokemon, was always kino>using a full team of 6 will keep you underleveled by the E4This is a good thing. Johto’s problem is that you’re overleveled for much of the game.>You need to be within 4 levels of another pokemon to reliably beat it.False, try using strategy sometime instead of mashing A>lack of a Metal CoatCome on, anon
>>58966481Holy based
>>58965125An easy way to remember what is physical or special in the pre-gen 4 games is every eevelution + Dragon-type is special.
>>58964222They are going to think turning in place to not waste steps in the safari zone is going to be giga-brained shit.
>>58965165Man I hate that like every nuzlocker jumped on the infinite rare candy "speedrun" nuzlockes.I liked watching nuzlockes when they were just kinda chill and slow.
>>58966970Simply thinking for more than a second should be enough. Anything that seems elemental is going to be special. Aside from Ghost lmao.
>>58964740>>58965805So what you're saying is, forced EXP share getting it to level 12 wouldn't have mattered and you couldn't have used Clefairy in that fight regardless of the EXP mechanics? Sounds like forced EXP share doesn't help you use more Pokemon more often, then. You know what would have? Having extra EXP be given in the form of candy so you could re-distribute backlogged EXP from before you caught the Pokemon in order to catch it up instantly.
>>58967066Shadow Ball could be reasonably physical. Lick, Astonish, and Shadow Punch remained physical even post-split.
>>58967253No, anon has a point. Dark should have been physical and Ghost should have been special.
>>58967113>So what you're saying is, forced EXP share getting it to level 12 wouldn't have mattered and you couldn't have used Clefairy in that fight regardless of the EXP mechanics?For that fight yes, but eventually it would have become strong enough to be usable. Without forced EXP share it's never going to be usable.
>>58967253Sure, but you still wouldn't look at the word "Ghost" and think it's a physical type, would you? It should have been special, with moves to match.
>>58967113The problem is, no matter the situation or bandaid solution, your overleveled starter is your strongest Pokemon and in 90% of matchups your best option. The real solution would be to make your starter the equivalent of a Route 1 shitmon that only gets by on starting at a higher level
>>58966905IIRC It has a type chart
… does the.. pc have enough boxes for a living dex?…
>>58964949Yeah gonna pound all those geodudes for 1 damage per turn.
>>58964936>you can use gengar as a discount starmie with no stab
>>58967462And it still rapes everything even without stab
>>58967361Dark should have been physical, but Ghost could have gone either way. It makes sense why they didn't want both of the new types to be physical.>>58967378But the type's damage properties came from the Ghost hitting other things, and not being hit itself.
>>58965095The president is a pedo so what ?
>>58967453Literally only 1 trainer in all of Mt. Moon in FRLG has a Geodude. Do you practice being this stupid or does it come naturally?
>>58964434Being honest I didn't even know it was a thing until recently, despite playing since Gen 1.
>>58967442Just for Kanto? Yeah easily. All of gen 3? Yes, but just barely. It'll take 13/14 boxes for a living dex, if you include all the Unown forms it'll take even more and you'll only have about 6 slots left over.
Making Frontier-ready teams? I cheat. Hidden stats suck. Playing through the game normally? I grind and I like it.
>>58965095Most zoomers are over 18 now
>>58965805The Clefairy shouldn't ever take an attack.>lead with Clefairy>turn 1 hard switch to Charmeleon>beat Pidgeotto>"DICKS is about to use Wartortle, do you want to switch Pokemon?">yes>choose Clefairy>immediately hard switch to CharmeleonYou do that a handful of times and suddenly Clefairy is strong enough you can just fight with it.
>>58967668>bro just don’t use the non you want to trainthat’s just the modern exp share with more tedious steps
>>58967668>lead with Clefairy>then immediately don’t use Clefairy and use your strong Pokemon insteadSo the old system doesn’t actually encourage me to use other Pokemon to get attached to them. Got it.
>>58964721>don't train your Pokémon >lose to your rival who was trained their Pokémon Pretty much the point of the game lad
>>58967691But he did train his Pokemon (Charmeleon) and he did beat his rival (with just Charmeleon)
>he
>>58967699I don't see the issue then.You can play the game however you like, if you choose to rely on a single Pokémon for your entire journey then that's up to you.
>>58967679It's Exp Share without the experience inflation
>>58966585Git gud faggot
>>58967825>It's Exp Share but completely pointless
>>58966585>play the role of a pokemon trainer>wtf why do I have to train my mons by using them in battle??
>>58968382>play the role of a pokemon trainer>wtf why is this game designed so that training more than one pokemon is actively detrimental and objectively worse?
>>58967442420 slotsWith all Unown, you need around 413
>>58968403>no exp share>you have to actually do your job and train the pokemon to get a pay off and complete your pokedex>universal exp share>you level up mons without ever training them, completely removing the training part of being a trainerYeah the first option seems better to me desu
>>58966585Anyone who has played an RPG would know to level up their team members so they aren't raped later on, why would the older entries of this corpse of a franchise be any different?
I love how the "Pokemon was never difficult" crowd have been outing themselves for the past week here. Cant even beat a game aimed at children without pity exp mechanics. Lmao, just lmao.
>>58964222I like the XP share, sometimes you have a shit mon who's dragging the team but when it evolves it'll be a good member. Or maybe you're going through a water area with a fire and rock type team members and you don't want them to fall 10 levels behind everyone else. Rather then have to then spend hours grinding in the tall grass switch trainning you can just share the XP. That said I do think the rate is too high, I turn it off quite often when playing, except in cases as I listed.
>>58966585Leveling Pokemon IS the stuff in the game. Like, what else are you doing?
>>58964721crazy how you coukd use charmander against level appropriate threats long enough for it to level up but couldn't figure out to do the same for anything that isn't charmander
>>58967361They absolutely should have flipped it in Gen 3, but GF has extreme autism about touching the type chart.
I don't even believe there are people who haven't played FRLG.Even the broccoli heads have emulated it right?
>>58966905It's hidden in pretty non-obvious place (offensive stats descriptions) but it's there.Overall I feel like if TPC want to re-release other old games, FRLG is a damn good start because it literally tells player how to play oldschool jrpgs and explains most important mechanics and terms pretty well.
>>58968461Played it once on Visual boy advance in the early 10s>t. Y2K baby
>>58968421>you have to actually do your job and train the pokemonNo, I don’t, because I end up with a worse team.>pay offHow is having a worse team a pay off?
>>58968461Does it really suprise you? The only reason zooms defend the nugames is because they don't know anything else. XY was 12 years ago, if they were 6 then they're 18 now.
>>58968461Does it really suprise you? The only reason zooms defend the nugames is because they don't know anything else. BW was 15 years ago, if they were 6 then they're 21 now.
>>58964721>throw exp share on clefairy>lead with clefairy>switch to charmeleon>clefairy gets 3/4 of the experience and grows fast>charmeleon doesn't overlevel and trivialize the game
>>58968500Decent attempt, but it was FRLG for me. My condolences that you missed out on the golden age.
>>58968516Decent attempt, but it was Yellow for me. My condolences that you missed out on the golden age.
>>58968511>don’t throw exp share on clefairy>don’t lead with clefairy>continue to use charmeleon>get one really good pokemon instead of two shittier ones in a fraction of the time
i swear there wasn't this much of a fuss just 10 years ago when they did the same thing releasing gen 1 and 2 on 3ds
I can't tell how many of you are being sarcastic or not. Pokemon is and will always be a baby game that can be beaten by just using a single over leveled starter.
>>58968550It's more about the gameplay differences. Before you formed bonds with your party by training each Pokemon individually. Now you just roflstomp with your strongest mon while EXP gets duplicated out of thin air for the magikarp in the back of your party you'll maybe use twice.
>>58968572>Before you did thing only retards who are completely dogshit at the game didStop projecting.
>>58968603Well you'll get a chance to play a real Pokemon game for the first time in like 5 hours. Give it a shot underageanon, it won't hurt ya.
Zoomers already played through the Virtual Console versions of gen 1 and gen 2 on the 3DS, FRLG on Switch is redundant.
>>58964700>the VS Seeker (which is hidden away in the Vermilion Pokemon CenterIf you don't talk to NPCs that's on you, retard. Even my zoomer ass knew to talk to that unique looking trainer as soon as I entered the PKMN Center and healed my team.
>>58968486>>58968500The average zoomer is almost 30 you dumb fucks, my first Pokémon game was Yellow and so was a lot of zoomers'
>Muse on using Macho brace for a bit for newer team members to help them catch up>Locked behind all 8 gym badges.Might just pump up one team member with it considering Lorelei is my E4 grind point. I blow all my cash on items then gain levels fighting her several times then win the E4.
>>58964936you were clearly never a pre gen 6 mawile fan
Why wasn’t this put in retroactively? Every other fucking RPG has shared XP among whoever is in the party. This is just an insult to my time.
>>58969297Not if they get knocked out or left at the inn.Same as OG pokemon faget.
>>58966476Hitmonchan is available in Fire Red and Leaf Green.
>>58969438IMO Pokemon should still get EXP if they faint during battle since they still participated
>>58965833the only way to get Umbreon and Espeon in gen 3 is through trading them from XD, which is entirely why those were the starters for that tame
>>58969645Pokemon in the box should get EXP, too.
>>58969880No
>>58970039Yes
>>58969880pokemon you haven't even caught yet should get exp
>>58970077You don't want your Pokemon to go completely unmanaged, Move Reminder be damned
>>58967056But it isn't cheating. God, the infinite Rare Candy stuff is so annoying to me. You are 100% cheating. You either need to invest the time to grind or risk losing because you are under leveled.
>>58964222Im all for people realizing that the XP availability is shit and raising a team evenly is a nightmare
>>58969279Correct because Mawile just didn't appeal to me. It still doesn't desu.
>58964721>people taking the bait
>>58971527It's easier to raise a team evenly without exp share because you control which Pokemon get experience.
>>58972453>it’s bait because I can’t refute it
>58972820I've seen the post plenty to know it's used disingenuously as bait, stop trying to gaslit me and act like you genuinely want a conversation I know what you are.
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>>58964222Those idiot children don't realise you're supposed to solo the game with your starter :(
>>58964222>Hunt Chansey for hours in the Safari Zone until you catch one holding a Lucky Egg>Take the Lucky Egg and the Exp Share out of your bag>Press do 10 laps around Route 14 with a joycon lodged in your ass>The two items should combine to form the Exp. All this gamer tip was submitted by Pyropheonix7872
>>58964936It's only bad if you're trying to have Chansey use physical attacks or Hitmonchan use its special punches. Most Kantomon aren't minmaxed or they just don't learn very many moves that don't suit their stats so it doesn't matter in a casual playthrough.
