>>58971414Man I was going to get back into VGC if I could Expanding Force spam with my bro Delphox
>no magic guardUh oh
>>58971414Kind of expected, given its design.
>loses psychic terrain boostgrim
>>58971414greninja and chesnaught keep protean and bulletproof
>No Expanding Force spamRIP
Mega Delphox can now completely blanket a lot of Pokemon with resists and immunities and is still an insanely power offensive presence.Shame Expanding Force spam isn't a choice though.
>>58971566>Yeah lets just give the 159 SpA Psychic type that's already fast easy access to expanding force too!
>>58971569>No StaminaChesnaughtbrothers...
>>58971566It loses the damage buff but Expanding Force still gets the terrain buff because it uses target state not user state to compute. It's still nasty and it can now press the "ignore earthquake" button at will
>>58971735It wouldn’t be any more broken than the mega CHARIZARDs
>>58971569>nugen proteandoesn’t that make it weaker than ash frog lol
>>58971862They nerfed ash frog didn't they? battle bond is just a stat buff, not a form change.
>>58971846>shillzards >brokenWhat?
>>58971862>ash frogDoesnt exist
>>58971569>nerfed proteanWorse than ash greninja KEK
>>58971414My wife just keeps getting stronger!
>>58971569>bulletproofPoor chesnaught
>>58971566>knows Skill SwapLevitate with Psychic Terrain seems like a good debuffing strategy.
>>58971414Release is still a month away. They could still change it....
What does it say here? Need to have te mega in za to receive in champions I think?
>>58971747Bulletproof is a stronger ability and give Chesnaught a valuable niche in checking ghost types
>>58971846It would since Mega Zard Y is slower, has a x4 weakness to rock, and only gets 1 boosted STAB.Delphox gets both Expanding Force and Heat Wave, so it could choose between Psychic Terrain or Drought, even on the same VGC Team.
>>58971916>thinks protean still will be nerfed after teras would go way
>>58971801>It loses the damage buff but Expanding Force still gets the terrain buff because it uses target state not user state to computeYou’re thinking of Rising Voltage. Expanding Force uses the user’s state, so it won’t get any boost if the user has Levitate.
>>58971846>pluralX is trash now
Who cares about expanding forces? VGC is a meme, and levitate is way better in singles.
>>58972028shit you're right. Welp, RIP Delphox, instantly replaced by Mega Gardie
>>58971977It just says you'll earn the mega stones if you send those four to Champions from ZA.
>>58972009>teras>going awayYou're a fucking idiot.
>>58972071Singles is a joke, that's why Smogon has to invent a trillion ban lists and made up rules to make it playable.
>>58972009Anon... teras aren't leaving. Ever. Champions has all gimmicks so if they changed protean to account for the possibility of a Tera Greninja then that change will stay.
Sucks in doubles, but it will be a monster in singles
>>58972009>teras going away>in Championsstay fucked Proteanfag
>>58972145It doesn't really even seem like Protean was changed because of Tera, it was just changed for balance reasons. How it works wouldn't have any real bearing on Tera at all.
>>58971569>Keeps bulletproof Just...
>>58971977Yeah. Maybe they'll make the mega stones available in the future but you can't give mega stones away in ZA so how are they going to make it stick to the pokemon in home?
Mfw mega delphox flies over me and I get a glimpse of her hairy, smoldering pussy
>>58972252It'll read a linked Switch (2)'s save data to see if the save has the Mega Stone obtained, probably.
>>58972197Champions is a wasted opportunity to redesign the aesthetics of Tera to not be retarded crystal hats.
>>58972132VGC doesn't ban shit (outside of the shit they ban because VGC still has rules), not because doubles is le balanced. Smogon has doubles format which also bans plenty of things too.The actual difference is that Smogon players have an actual voice and people who actually give a shit about balance. GameFreak doesn't listen to fans and doesn't care about balance.
>>58972317I'm not even talking about mon bans (which is a different thing altogether) I'm talking about shit like banning moody, banning evasion, sleep clause, all sorts of mechanical shit designed to break 200 turns of RNG stall which VGC doubles just inherently doesn't have to worry about.
>>58971493what was this move called again
Do we know Starmie's ability yet? Or is it actually going to be Huge/Pure Power?
>>58972440Moody helps stall more than it "breaks" it.
Gravity+Hypnosis thoughPsyspam always wins
>>58971414What a stupid ability lmao
>>58972512No, the bans area designed to break stall. meanwhile VGC matches end in 10 turns.Also, and this is a VGC thing not just a doubles thing, "bring 4" and item clause are both things that singles should have as well.
>>58972071I unironically prefer Singles but psychic spam is more fun than most battle styles, single or doubles.
>>58972440>I'm talking about shit like banning moody, banning evasion, sleep clause, all sorts of mechanical shit designed>"WTF WHY DO SMASH PLAYERS BAN ITEMS AND DIFFERENT STAGES THAT BREAK STALL CHARACTERS LIKE SONIC AND VILLAGER!!"They don't break Stall. All that stuff is actually countered by Stall, which runs Phasing moves, Unaware, Regenerator, and Magic Bounce. And nigga, STALL IN VGC USES EVASION + MOODY MUK.
>>58972441sneaky pebbles
>>58971414Duh, it'd be broken if it could take advantage of Psychic Terrain
>>58972723It really wouldn’t
>>58971862>>58971916I'M SORRY WHO???
>>58972723>requires a mega stone and is still bad>incineroar exists and is goodShe deserves psychic terrain
>>58971414>another future victim for Mega ExcadrillApril gonna be a bloodbath
>>58973021>sand rushcan't hit it>mold breakerslower
>>58972312How would you like Tera to look like?
>>58973344Basically the same except instead of a giant hat growing out of their head that's 3x the size of their body they could just get like, a colored halo with an icon jewel.
>>58973344Remove the hat, increase the size of the particles to make the types more obvious.
>>58973577Yeah in any of the demake-shit that ports tera back to the sprite games, it just puts a hue-and-crystal effect on the sprite to indicate the type change. No need to grow a whole ass spiky speech bubble with an evil grin on it to indicate that the pokemon is dark type now.
