>Gen 10 coming>Project Voltage comes back with a new Miku design for the live concerts with musical motifs that is clearly placed in front of all the other Miku types>Pokopia reveals a new Rotom Form specifically around a stereoI'M STARTING TO BELIEVE, BROS. SOUND TYPE WILL COME THIS GEN!
>>58976644>region based on nature and natural phenomenon>sound type
>>58976685sound is a natural phenomenon thoughbeit
>>58976685YOU JUST GOTTA BELIEVE.
>>58976644>Official Sound Type Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgN2PcYFjHQ
sound type fags are so fucking retarded, worst idea for a new type ever.cyber/digital is the only one that makes sense and would actually add unique designs/moves to the game
>>58976644Which pokemon and moves would be affected?
>>58976685Hearing wind and waves was a big part of the trailer totally not cope
>>58976685>>58976716And how did they end the reveal?With a black screen and only the SOUND of crashing waves and howling wind.IT'S COMING
>>58976790If they wanted to retcon a bunch of them, there's a lot of pokemon built around sounds or music that'd fit.>Chatot - Flying/Sound>Loudred - Normal/Sound>Jigglypuff - Fairy/Sound>Meloetta - Psychic/Sound>Noivern - Dragon/SoundStuff like that.
>>58976717>>58976792>>58976801>>58976716screencap this, the ending of the trailer is just an impending storm. The "Storm" or typhoon is going to be the legendary in some sort of way or fashion. Personal want: new eevee type for the new mechanic. this is what i want to believe
>>58976850that would be retarded
>>58976644pokemon winds and waves.... as in sound... yeah im starting to believe too holy
>>58976790Imagine a Wailord with an ultrasonic cannonIn real life, this is how whales hunt: they create bubble nets and stun thousands of fish with their ultrasound before swallowing them.
>>58976644>SOUND TYPEShould've been introduced in Gen 3. My man Whismur was robbed.
>>58976968They didn't even make a new eeveelution for the damn eeveelution trainer who's part of the main storyI dont think another one is ever happening
>>58976968There were a couple leaks claiming the new gimmick is a "Second Chance" revival mechanic, right? Maybe we could finally get Spookeon.
>>58976644Will exploud stop being shit?
>>58977247I was more talking about the weather mechanic in the tera leaks but that can work too >>58977222>tripsfuck you, its my hope
>>58976790List of sound related moves (also consider the existing mechanic behind sound-based moves): >Normal TypeBoomburstConfideEchoed VoiceExplosionGrowlHeal BellHowlHyper VoiceLucky ChantNoble RoarPerish SongRelic SongRoarScreechSingSnoreSupersonicUproarYawn>Other TypesAlluring VoiceBelchBug BuzzChatterClanging ScalesClangorous SoulblazeClangorous SoulDisarming VoiceDragon CheerEerie SpellGrass WhistleMetal SoundOverdriveParting ShotPsychic NoiseSnarlSparkling AriaTorch SongSince Normal Type kinda acts as a placeholder type (as it was the case with Fairy Type), they would likely be subject to change.
>>58976644>New Rotom-FormYeah I remember when they first revealed phone type back in Gen 7!
>>58977173Similar to Snubbull, the fairy Pokémon, or the entire Cleffa lineThey had to wait several years to get their true type
>>58976644I'm so tired of Mikuslop.
>>58976685>Sound TypeI slepp>Rean TypeREAL SHIT
>>58977935I can't recall, was there ever any kind of actually referencing the retcon in the anime or games?Like they reclassified a lot of pokemon to be Fairy, but Fairy is meant to have always existed since even ancient times. All those gens before where they were just "normal" or some other type, were they just wrong?
>>58978036The anime bluntly stated that they exist now, or that there was a new type in Kalos.
>>58976644Sound is just a part of the Normal type, like how aura is a special side of Fighting type.
>>58978132And Fairy is just an egg group
>>58976759
>>58978036I remember that in the anime the characters didn't give importance to the new type, they acted as if it had always existed, Ash's first thing he saw upon arriving at the kalos airport was some Spritzee and he didn't give a damn, whereas in Johto there was a whole episode introducing the Steel type.
>>58976644Sound type's bigges hurdle to actually becoming a thing is the fact that you have to square the circle of like over two decades of sound based mechanics. There are some things that fit, but way many that don't.
>>58978367Yeah, I guess it just was too much to deal with the retcon at that point with Fairy. Too many things changed over at once.
we need a sound type efective against steel type
>>58979062Ground should have immunity to sound because the best sound insulators are rock wool, fiberglass, high-density vinyl (HDV), cork, and drywall.Rock and Ice, on the other hand, should be weak against sound, with glass being the most fragile material against sound resonance due to its rigid and inflexible structure.And while materials like wood, metals, and liquids do amplify sound, their structure isn't affected by it, so they should be resistant.All of this is from a physical standpoint. Now, if you want to balance the metagame, I have no idea; everyone complains if their favorite type gets nerfed.
>>58976644>sound type fags still coping more than a decade laterit will never be a thing, accept reality you dumb faggots
>>58976761They should add a dog type. New type fags are always so boring. Always boring predictable shit. Have fun with it, give the game a door type. Or a corruption type Get a random word generator and just use whatever comes up. At least sound is better than cosmic type.
>>58979516Every gen the hope will rise, even if it falls each time as well.
>>58976644Doesn’t this deconfirm that Sound is getting added as a type?Would be extremely weird to introduce a brand new type to completely shake up the game by introducing it in a spin-off game?
Reminder that people thought Sylveon was going to be Flying type and denied Fairy back then too.
>>58979062>>58979494Don't forget sound is VERY effective against fire
>>58980352That's the thing, it's all just allusions within spinoffs right now. It's priming. Absolutely stellar secret marketing.NO, I'M NOT COPING.
>>58978036yea right before you get to lumiose in XY sina and dexio or whatever their names were stop you and loredump about how fairy types were recently discovered
>>58979062This looks good
>>58976644>A rotom turns into a boombox in a spin off game>The same spin off that has a ghost pikachu, a grass snorlax and a professor tangrowthYou fags know that this rotom is just one of these spin off exclusive characters right, also GameFreak would never implement fan made types as the original creator would probably sue for "THEY STOLE MUH IDEA!11!11". Reminder we were supposed to have a flying type Eeveelution in gen 7 that was scrapped because it looked to much like fan made fakemons
>>58982337But what if all those things are just teasers for the coming generation? Spinoffs can have important things to them now.Let a man dream.
What's sound weak to
>>58980410Oh shit, you're right!
>>58983121an echo chamber
>>58976644>>58976850>>58977891>>58979062I want to believe it
>>58976644>Singing software in a music collab has music themes>Spinoff minecraft adjacent game has a jukebox (like minecraft)I guess you can screencap to call me a gay retard if it happens but c'mon nigga
>>58983121
>>58976790>>58976850>have Normal ("placeholder") Type Igglypuff, Jigglypuff, WigglytuffWhismur, Loudred, ExploudChatotAudinoMeloettaObstagoonSquawkabilly>doesn't have Normal Type but one other typeChingling, ChimechoKricketot, KricketuneMaractusRillaboom>have two other typesBronzor, BronzongWoobat, SwoobatTympole, Palpitoad, SeismitoadNoibat, NoivernCrocalor, SkeledirgeNeedless to say, changing these would be difficult, as one would not only have to alter a type, but all characteristics associated with itIt's interesting to note that a few sound related pokemon are classified as Psychic Type (Chingling-line, Woobat-line, Meloetta), even though their dex entries don't mention anything about psychic powers, but the use of sound. It's especially striking with Meloetta, which gains Psychic Type in its Aria Forme and Fighting Type in its Pirouette Form; the former associated with singing, the latter with dancing. I suppose Psychic Type might be a placeholder type for sound.
this could actually happen
>>58976644you forgot the general music spam this direct, Pokopia and Champions both have tracks from all previous games
>>58985159fuck it, I believe
>>58985159Let's see if something comes out of it.
>>58978375Maybe it could have happened like a decade ago but since then they introduced like 20 sound-based moves that aren't normal types and a dozen dual typed Pokemon that use sound.
>>58985153I don't think Obstagoon would really get the type, unless the whole line of galarian zigzagon gets it. And they could also lean on the theme of being more of a bouncer than a singer.Also on the last list you forgot to inclue Primarina and Toxtricity, which both are themed around singing/music and have abilities related to sound based moves.
>>58985159If sound rotom ends up being real I wonder if all the other alt forms like Mosslax will also be real mons outside of Pokopia?
>>58979542>cosmic typeThis has already happened with the "stellar" type, which encompasses the space and the star.
>>58982337>GameFreak would never implement fan made typesNo they implemented stella type. >>58985438
>>58985438The stellar type is a gimmic marketed as a type. Though I would be curious on how they could turn it int a regular "type". What would be its offensive and defensive match up?
>>58978184Don't be daft. There was no clearly defined characteristics of Fairy before the type was introduced, unlike sound, so Gamefreak could make it a type and be fine. Ergo, Fairy could make sense as a type, sound does not
>>58978036They bring it up in XY. Not as much as they did in GS with Dark and Steel, but they mention it.
>>58985159The problem is, if you retcon all the sound-based moves to be sound-type moves, what the hell is left for normal-type special attackers? It took fucking ages for normals to get anything that wasn't hyper beam in the special movepool, once GF figured out they could do "sound" as the normal type special we got shit like boomburst, hyper voice, round, echoed voice, relic song, uproar...What remains to normal type spatks (apart from type-changing moves, i.e. weather ball, judgment, techno blast) is fucking swift, tri attack, and hyper beam. Please don't leave normal types with just Pory2. Normal types deserve better.
>>58978132>>58985782Sound is wrapped up in Normal - it's why Jigglypuff kept Normal and had Fairy added, while Clefairy lost Normal.I admit I used to be a soundfag, and it's probably still my top choice IF Gamefreak ever introduced another type, but the fact is anything you can think of can be wrapped into one of the existing types.>soundNormal>"good" lightFairy, Fighting, Psychic>"bright" lightElectric, Fire, Psychic, Metal (yes, some moves)>digitalElectric, Normal>cosmicPsychic>ancientRock>beastNormal, Dark
>>58977891>Other Types>Alluring Voice>Belch>Bug Buzz>Chatter>Clanging Scales>Clangorous Soulblaze>Clangorous Soul>Disarming Voice>Dragon Cheer>Eerie Spell>Grass Whistle>Metal Sound>Overdrive>Parting Shot>Psychic Noise>Snarl>Sparkling Aria>Torch SongThese moves are exactly why there won't be a sound type.>Yes, let's change the type of Bug Buzz, Snarl and Psychic Noise, fucking genius idea
>>58976644I have some doubts regarding the new Hatsune Miku design.It may have some sound related details (piano pattern on sock, hair shaped like a music note), but most striking is the pokeball design of the dress, which seems way too generic to specify Sound Type. In contrast, other Mikus fit their corresponding tyoe in design.Also, the new variant promotes some new event ("Voltage Live"), meaning it isn't necessarily a 19th type design, but something entirely new.
>>58985922Correct. Though I think beast also gets a lot of fighting, since the paradox mons. Which is actually a callback to Mankey/Primeape which were among the earliest fighting types, so it still fitsAll of the "types" have different implications depending on the mon that gets them. For Fighting, you get>trained martial artists of any discipline>soldiers, heroes, and other "great warrior" archetypes>unga bunga rage-out "too furious to die" monsThe thing about the archetype approach is it does make it easier to make certain types be both physical and special. As you point out, without incorporating light (as in, gleaming, shining) into steel type, you have basically no way of making steel type special attacks make sense. Sound being an adaptation of normal is a good thing for this reason. It's just about the only way to make normal type special attacks sensible, and is a logical extension of sound-based status moves (roar, growl, etc) so often being normal, going back to the earliest gens.Similarly, what the hell would sound-type physical attacks even be? It's such an inherently energy-based "type".
>>58976790this pokémon is sound incarnate and will have 70% of his moves sound type
>>58977926>>58982337I never have been a soundfag, but first they called it >Rotom (Stereo Rotom), then, they named the character>DJ Rotom. I'm pretty sure that's the only new Pokopia design with different names for its Form and "nickname".>>58985782I'd the guess the same that happened with other Sp.Attackers after the physical-special split—a bunch of new moves like Magical Leaf, Vacuum Wave, Power Gem and Psycho Cut.
soundtards are so embarrassing
>>58986016It would finally give them a reason to make more dual typed moves
>>58986089For fuck sake, that miku is just the mascot of the incoming Pokemiku concert.
>>58986119I'm not saying you couldn't add moves, obviously that becomes necessary. I'm saying what would you choose? What is a "normal type" special attack, really? What does it even look like? Especially since "nondescript sorta-kinda energy" is basically only retconned into normal for hyper beam and swift, all the rest of it got rolled into fighting type under the sort of hadouken/kamehameha logic of vacuum wave, aura sphere, focus miss, etc.
>>58986089>>58986097>>58986151Yeah, I said it was the miku for the live concert in the OP. The point is just that them making one specifically for the concert and highlighting it so much could maybe be leading into the big announcement for Sound Type to be a thing way later into the release schedule.They gave themselves a full year of drip feeding news, so they gotta have some big things planned.
>>58986127cosmicfags think they're better
>>58986016>the elemental punches/fangs can't exist because fighting punching moves and dark biting moves already existWhy can't bug buzz just be a bug based sound move?
>>58986097>dress is a pokeball>microphone is a pokeball>white glove has a pokeball on it>high heels are actually pokeballsBros... I think the new type is pokeball
poop type
>>58986173>Why can't bug buzz just be a bug based sound move?It... is? It always has been?
>>58986185I wasn't expecting much from someone who doesn't understand how question marks work, but damn.
>>58986172they’re retarded but not as retarded as soundfaggots
>>58986260they're much more tards than soungods
>>58986297no, no they’re not. soundniggers don’t even understand sound based moves already exist
>>58976644Just don't make it super-effective against Dark and I am fine.Bonus points if Dark has some advantage to it.
>>58986307soundgods will win
>>58986167There aren't that many special-attacking normal types that don't already get Tri Attack, so you honestly could get away with not having another high BP special move for the type (Rock does it with Power Gem). If you really need another 80BP ish move, just do something similar to Tera Blast (ie, a blast of refracted light). Call it Prism Beam or something, and give it to anything that can learn Flash.
>>58986344soundtroons already lost
>>58986317Sound-type moves would be effective against Steel, Fighting, and Psychic types.>SteelBecause metal makes a lot of noise when struck, and because most musical instruments are made of metal and amplify sound.>FightingBecause a good musical rhythm makes muscles move unconsciously to the beat.>PsychicBecause loud sounds distract the mind.Sound-type moves would be less effective against Bug, Grass, and Rock types because insects are not very affected by loud sounds, and plants and rocks are deaf.On the other hand, Bug, Fighting, and Psychic-type moves are effective against Sound-type Pokémon, while Steel and Electric-type moves are not very effective.>bugidk, but everyone knows that the bug type needs an offensive boost.>fightingBecause a good dancer can perform well with music.>psychicBecause someone with a lot of musical knowledge can master any rhythm and musical instrument.>steelSame reason as begins.>electricBecause many musical instruments run on electricity.This would improve the bug type offensively and the bug, grass and rock types defensively.While the steel type (the best defensively in the game) would have a good weakness, as would electric.The fighting and psychic types would be both effective and weak against sound.Finally, sound-type Pokémon would be immune to sound-type moves.
If they do it, how would it even work? It's hard to create a new type without it immediately becoming one of the best bc it's overtunedI guess I could see something like > S.E. Against: Steel, Water> N.F.E. Against: Ice, Bug, Ghost> Weak to: Bug, Psychic, Electric> Resists: Water, Steel, Sound (itself)
let's say there's a sound type, how much it will affect normal type?
>>58987999Who cares normal-type?We need nerfed Steel-type and make bug or rock better defensively If Sound can’t do it this, is trash nonsense
>>58976644>>58985159>Sound Type HypeLET'S FUCKING GO!!!!!
>>58987999Less Normal Types.
>>58985159That teal color is nice and doesn't overlap with any of the other type colors currently that bad. It'd fit at least.
>>58976850why does chatot look so fuckable
>>58978318Keyed
We're getting a biotic type and it's gonna come with a food type as well and form a new type triangle with fairy
I know people don't believe but I asked a few weeks ago why Voltage was going on so long compared to other collaborations and this would be a good explanation. It would be amazing if Miku was associated with the reveal of a new type.
>>58989817>Sound type is confirmed>We get a Sound Gym>The Gym Leader suspiciously has blue hair, blue tie, and hides in your wifi
>my bromon loses Hyper Voice stab and gets fuck all in return so we get get a stupid Melotta regional form that looks like miku
>Hyper Voice Sound type90 power100 accuracy10 ppHits opponents through substitute (spread move in Doubles)>Boom BurstSound type130 power95 accuracy5 ppLowers the user's Special Attack by 2 stagesAnd to replace them>Power Blast basically just a HadoukenNormal type95 power100 accuracy10 pp>Ultra BlastNormal type140 power100 accuracy5 ppHits opponents through substitute
>>58989978All of the Pokemon that deserve Hyper Voice STAB are going to be turned into Sound types anyways.
>>58990080Farigiraf?
>Pure SoundExploud line>Sound/NormalAudinoMeloetta>Sound/WaterPolitoed Wailord line>Sound/FirePyroar (male)>Sound/GrassMaractusRillaboom line>Sound/BugKricketune line>Sound/FightingMeloetta(Pirouette) >Sound/PsychicChimecho line>Sound/GhostMismagius>Sound/FairyWigglytuff line>Sound/FlyingChatotSwellow>Sound/SteelBronzong lineThat just leaves>Electric>Dragon>Ice>Dark>Poison>Rock>Ground
>>58990094Exactly my point
>meloetta was given in the dlc and a shiny from dex completion for SVI AM BELIEVING
finnaly sound type is coming>>58986097
Remember that every argument against the Sound type is worse than the arguments against the Fairy type
>>58990126>DragonHOW DARE YOU FORGET MY BIG NOISY BOI. EAT BOOMBURST
>>58990126RockLiterally "all ears"
>>58990126>Electric>PoidonToxtricity should have an ability that allows it to temporarily stab sound movesBeing like an honorary Sound type, as is the case with Dhelmise and the Steel type
>>58990617Can't really get rid of the Flying secondary typing unless there is a regional variation that is grounded. You'd have to get rid of the Dragon typing, making it another Flying/Sound
>>58990683You could introduce a third form that is Electric/Poison and change Amped to Sound/Poison and Low Key to Sound/Electric
>>58976685>sound is unnatural and the moon is clouds
>>58985153>Bronzor, Bronzongkeep steel, it's psychic because it's an animate object, but all pokemon are animate so it's fine>Woobat, Swoobatkeep woobat psychic, when it evolves and gets the big ears it loses it in excahnge for sound, I don't even know why these are psychic exactly >Tympole, Palpitoad, Seismitoadwell they're definitely more water than they are ground so keep water>Noibat, Noiverndragon stays, having wings is inherently a dragon trait anyway, see druddigon, mega altaria, mega zard x, the latis, mega chomp z, reshiram/zekrom, I can keep going but you get the picture>Crocalor, Skeledirgestarter, fire stays>>58985315>Primarinasee above, water stays>Toxtricitythis one's fun, low key keeps poison, whilst amped keeps electric
>>58990350At least Fairy type was unexpected and original, Sound as a typing is less unique than as a mechanic
>>58991563And yet it's better than that stupid Tera type
>>58978318impish_browt_ears
>>58985782Normal already has a bunch of non-sound special moves though>Razor Wind>Spit Up>Swift>Trump Card>Tri Attack>Hyper BeamNot counting anything that changes type as a gimmick. And it would be really easy to add new normal special moves.>Pure Beam80 bp, widely learned as TM.>Normal Pulse90 bp, Learned by level up by specially-attacking Normal types and Blastoise/Clawitzer to work with Mega Launcher.>Blastwave25 bp 90 acc, hits 2-5 times. Learned by minccino line, shellder line, voltorb line, koffing line, exeggcute line, Lunatone/Solrock, Metagross, Baltoy/Claydol, Skuntank, Roggenrola line, Volcanion, Minior, Turtonator, etc>Quick Shot40 bp, priority. Learned by any mon known for launching projectiles as a gimmick, octillery/cloyster/clawitzer etc come to mind. Plus special priority is rare as-is and a normal special priority would be nice lmao...>Ptooey50 bp, meant as a special replacement for tackle for early levels for certain mons. Could also be renamed "Spit" or something but I feel a goofy name fits.>Power Projection110 bp 80 acc, meant as the equivalent to hurricane fire blast etc, and bonus id boomburst were re-typed then this would nerf pixilate etc mons by not being as strong.
>>58986149oh shit true
>>58992244I'm surprised razor wind didn't get purged, it's one of the worst moves ever
>>58976685Sound “Waves” anon
>>58985315Zubat might be another example, as its design revolves around using ultrasonic waves for orientation.While the entire line has already dual typing (Flying / Poison), Zubat could be Flying / Sound. Its biology doesn't seem as predatory as Golbat and Crobat, which have dex entries mentioning them drawing blood from their victims. Not to mention the obvious that they gain eyes and thus lose their reliance on ultrasonic sounds.>>58990639Good find. Boldore also has one dex entry mentioning its use of sound for orientation.
>>58976644Now it's time to add SHIT type.
>>58990350>>58992461
>>58992205Tera is a gimmick type, it doesn't count
Bump
sound-based moves are too deep with their own unique mechanics now to be retyped
>>58985153I think changing starters might be too much, Skeledirge should just get a new ability thats "pixilate" but sound.
>>58993541Valid point.
>>58985159ok, I’m soundfag now NO ES FAKE
>>58985159I was about to call the theory bullshit but this is quite convincing. I'm at 20% true, 80% false rn.
>>58993541most types have unique mechanics already though
>>58990126I feel like the Whismur line, Meloetta. Audino, Kricketune, Chatot and maaaybe the Jigglypuff line + Politoed are the only ones with a strong case, excluding stuff like Noivern or Primarina where the existing type combo is more or less fine and a better fit than swapping something out for Sound. I felt like they gave Fairy out to way too many mons and I’d rather keep the typing rare for a bit while they make new designs.
>>58976644It's also worth noting that Stereo Rotom's design is more in line with the forms from Platinum. Same shade of orange and a colored outline. The newer unusable forms don't have that.Did anyone save the leaked Rotom Scooter from WW? Might be useful for comparison.
>>58993541>>58993882thinking about it more, i dont think mechanics are actually the problem. punk rock could just become like steelworker or rocky payload where the idea is it gives an extra stabliquid voice i guess would be like normalise where it retypes moves even if there isnt a ton of reason to.throat chop and throat spray interacting with a whole type of move feels a little weird and unprecedented, but there are abilities and items that are type specific, just with smaller effects (justified, air balloon)really the only thing is i dont see how certain sound-based moves could be retyped. psynoise being the most obvious example, though others too. plus some pokemon would have to be very thoroughly reworked. kommo-o would need all 3 of its sigmoves retyped, and would have to be changed from dragon/fighting to dragon/sound, for example. it doesnt feel like fairy where it can kinda just be retroactively slapped onto shit, because sound already has its own identity within the game, and that identity is type-agnostic, so existing mons can have sound be a big part of their identity while also having other types be part of that identity. sure, no one would care if loudred changed from mono normal to mono sound, but what are skeledirge, or kommo-o dropping?
>>58994104you’re just reading too much into it anon, “sound move” the mechanic would still exist independently of Sound-type moves, which would be grandfathered into all the mechanics that interacted with sound-based moves previously - same way ice punch is Ice-type rather than Fighting but still interacts with things like Iron Fist. distinctions are obviously going to be arbitrarily for typing but that’s just how things are - ie the Gen 1 pink blobs being Fairy but Chansey’s line staying normal while other 50/50’s like Mr. Mime or Milotic can go either way
I honestly suspect that if sound is on the table, so is triple-typings. That would solve a lot of complaints people have about it. GF has been actively designing pokemon to be sound-based and dual-typed for some reason since gen 6 (arguably gen 5) and this would be a natural way to introduce a new massive change to pokemon akin to a new generational gimmick but that's not gonna have any real controversy. It would also create an impossibly high number of type combinations, which would be GOOD because gamefreak has almost made a new pokemon of every single type combination already, and adding more speculation this way would give them decades of combinations, easily.
>>58994015It's odd that the Stereo Form has this distinct music note symbol within its energy outline. The other forms don't have that.It could be an obvious design choice to show Pokopia players that you can play music when interacting with it, but who knows.
>>58994319I think that in particular is just a change in design philosophy. If the other rotom forms were made nowadays they'd undoubtedly have their symbols as well.
>>58989278>doesn't overlap with any of the other type colorsObjection: ???-Type>>58994314Triple types would be far more controversal than adding a new type.
>>58985503>He hasn't played the gamesAnon... stellar type in Pokemon is based on crystals, not on space or aliens
>>58994411the sound icon is lighter than the icons in your pic though
>>58977891How likely is it for the ''sound'' type to actually be a ''musical'' type? that way, they don't have to change every sound-based attack. food for thought
>>58990350Also a remember that in gen 7 Pokemon fans argued about the starter evolutions being fake even after Mallow was in Incineroar's art and the disarming voice trend was shown. >>58985159There are enough coincidences to consider that this is possibly real.
>>58976644So this Rotom is just Normal/Electric right? Boomburst is probably what it would learn
>>58994411>Triple types would be far more controversal than adding a new type.I think most people would love it. Normies wouldn't care about any negative implications for competitive or whatever, it wouldn't seem like bloat. It would just be "Yeah man gyarados is water/flying/dragon now!" "Steelix is steel/ground/rock now!" "Mawile is steel/fairy/dark now!" "gallade is psychic/fighting/fairy now!" "golurk is ground/ghost/steel now!" "dragalge is dragon/water/poison now!" "decidueye is grass/flying/ghost now!" "drednaw is water/rock/dark now!" "veluza is water/psychic/ghost now!" and be perfectly happy
>>58994573GENERICHAWAI'IANGIRL
>>58994688If Stereo Rotom is going to be a thing that can be used in mainline games, that is the most likely.
>>58976968New Eevee isn't happening, there's already too many Japanese fan designs of a Sound Type Eevee because Sound is already one of the most popular fan types.
>>58994757>there's already too many Japanese fan designs of a Sound Type Eevee because Sound is already one of the most popular fan types.can you post some? I was under the impression that sound-type was mostly popular in the west.
>>58994757It's going to be teal with silver/white and black accents.
>>58994800
>>58994757You’re taking that note from the teraleak too literally, they’re not taking eeveelutions off the table entirely, the specific Flying-type Eevee that was designed for SM was deemed too close to an existing fakemon and they considered a full redesign process to be too time-consuming. Turner has also said that gf designers aren’t supposed to look at/look for fakemon as an actual clause in their contract. If they wanted to do a Sound-type eeveelution, they would do it because of the potential marketing benefit, which outweighs spending longer in the design phase to come up with something unique
>>58994823I never said they weren't doing Eeveelutions period, but it's clear with what caused them to reject the Flying Eeveelution that all the existing types, and common fan types, are off the table because there's too many fan designs from Japan they'll risk unintentional overlap that could generate controversy over potential plagiarism accusations, and thus result in artists deliberately flooding every conceivable concept because they want to be paid hush money by GameFreak to quietly remove their coincidentally similar designs and not create a social media stink.No one was doing "Fairy Type" before XY to a widescale degree, so they had no problem conceiving Sylveon.
>>58994486It would still resemble teal. Wouldn't matter though, as ??? Type hasn't been used for six Gens now. Nonetheless an interesting coincidence that they chose to color the Strange Ball teal. Seems like the idea behind the ??? Type as this undefined type is still relevant after all these years.>>58994691It could be an issue when triple typed pokemon become more / less popular because of insane strength / weakness combos. Or when fans have an issue with their favorite pokemon getting a new type they don't like. Personally, I wouldn't oppose the idea.
>>58994929They'd probably have a third type exert less influence over type matchups and STAB than the first two types imo
>>58994870They aren’t legally liable when it’s their own IP, I assume the flying eevee was almost 1:1 to a fan design which is why they shelved it. I genuinely haven’t seen many Sound-type eeveelutions but there are a thousand different directions they can go in and they have time and reasoning for going down that path because like Sylveon, the sound eeveelution would be an advertisement for the type itself.
>>58977891Haha imagine Miku using Belch haha!
>>58995162It was multiple designs, every single time they tried to iterate on a flying eevee and then had it vetted by whatever team handles comparisons it was too similar to a fan design so they just gave up, which is why it was labeled as a "high risk".
Holy fuck you guys are delusional as ever, I see. Obviously the Miku in the Poekmon collab has music notes and instruments, she's a vocalist mascot, that's the whole point. The Rotom form could be legitimate but most likely as its Normal type form. If Gamefreak had any intention of introducing Sound type they would have done it ages ago, its time to let go.
>>58995415Denialfag
>>58978367Mons pubis....
>>58994411>yfw ???-Type was Sound-Type all along
>introduce sound type>normal type lose many mons dual types and its only useful moves>steel resist it anyway>rocks and ice are weak to it anyway>doesn't shake the meta, just remove niche mons
>>58995424Denial is still thinking you're getting Sound type despite repeatedly getting BTFO
>>58987414>new type>make it SE against psychic >leave fairy completely untouchedthis is so retarded i could see GF doing it.
>>58987416i'd do something like>SE against Ghost, Steel, Water>NVE against Flying, Rock, Dark, Ice>Weak to: Psychic, Electric, Flying>Resists: Fairy, Ghost, Sound
>>58987414I'd make it SE against ghost and/or fairy because supernatural activity usually only happens in quiet places
>>58995640also ghosts are often repelled by chanting sutras, so sound beating ghosts makes sense.
>>58991174I feel like Amped would make the best Electric/Sound. Low Key could be Electric/Poison, and a third could be Sound/Poison.
SE vs Steel and Water (in addition to Fighting and Psychic) while being weak to Electric among other things is actually a pretty fun niche for a rogue offensive type
>>58979062>Zombie Eeveelution with Mohawk
>>58976644Screech all you want, your whole type can't do shiz to me, I'm Soundproof, Pikka!>*Twerks*
>>58976644when did this collaboration with Hatsune Miku happen?
>>58976644>2x effective on Ice, Rock, Steel, and Water, 0.5x effective on Dark, Flying, and Grass, 0x effective on Ground>Weak to Ground and Electric, resists Fighting and Poison>Jigglypuff + Wigglytuff Sound/Fairy, Igglybuff remains Normal/Fairy>Politoed Water/Sound>Whismur line Sound>Kricketot line Bug/Sound>Chatot Sound/Flying>Tympole line Water/Sound>Meloetta Sound/Psychic | Sound/Fighting>Litleo line Fire/Sound>Noibat line Sound/Dragon>Oricorio Fire/Sound | Electric/Sound | Psychic/Sound | Ghost/Sound>Hakamo-o + Kommo-o Dragon/Sound, Jangmo-o remains Dragon>Obstagoon Dark/Sound, G.Zigzagoon + G.Linoone remain Dark/Normal>Squawkabilly Sound/Flying>Scream Tail Psychic/Sound>Boomburst, Hyper Voice, Uproar, Round, Echoed Voice, Relic Song, Snore, Screech, Growl, Howl, Noar, Noble Roar, Sing, Supersonic, Perish Song, Heal Bell, Confide, Chatter, Clangorous Soul, and Clanging Scales become Sound type>Sound type moves go through Substitute>Soundproof is now just Sound immunity, Liquid Voice makes Sound moves Water, Punk Rock boosts Sound while providing immunity from it>New Sound type Eevelution called Canteon, white with black stripes and red highlights>Rotom Stereo is the one Pokopia Pokemon in Gen 10, Electric/Sound. Rotom is rare here, is not the phone/dex, and you only obtain a single one and change its forms the old way
>>58995938>skuntank is now poison/sound
>>58995220>Music is an element in Mewgenics, a game filled with pokemon referenceswhat does Edmund know?
>>58996228meant to reply to >>58994501
>>58976685what the fuck are you talking aboutsound is perfectly abundant in nature>numerous distinct mating calls across the entire animal kingdom>howling>birdsong>crickets>bats use echolocation>sound of waves, conch shell sounds of the ocean bullshit>sound of thunder>probably a jillion other examplesi can't say i expect a sound type reveal but it's far from impossible
>>58985159>>58976801>>58976644I’ve been against it for years, but this is too many coincidences to ignore.>>58986016This was my argument for a long time, but with evidence beginning to show, I can perhaps imagine fixes for this.1. Perhaps the new type is actually “Music” and the “sound” property is retained as is. Sound property would include all Music moves and all current sound property moves. Even if it had the same number of moves as Fairy, this wouldn’t be a truly crazy number. 2. Sound property moves just get reworked into Flying Press-like dual type moves (example: Torch Song = Fire/Sound).3. Sound property moves get reworked into brand new non-sound moves with otherwise identical effects (example: Psychic Noise reworked to Psychic Chain, still deals special damage and prevents healing but no longer sound)4. More moves get culled (particularly non-signature moves).5. Combo of the above options.
>>58976801I remember when similar logic was used for the XY reveal trailer; light was shown on Xerneas and its anters glow in various colors, so it was a Light type, while Yveltal was accompanied by a screech, so it was Sound type.
>>58996824xerneas did actually end up being a new typeit wasn't light type but i don't remember anyone predicting fairy type before it was announcedthis new rotom form COULD be electric/normal, but that's a type combo that already exists so it would be a weird choice for the first new rotom form in almost 20 years
>>58996872should probably add: if there's no sound/music type coming, i'd expect stereo rotom to NOT be the only new rotom form, just the first to be revealedor alternatively, it isn't a battle form despite having the aura
>>58952544What did this end up being?
>>58996918A song about Meloetta featuring concert Miku.
>>58996918>>58996921Yeah, new song came out before the direct.https://youtu.be/yNw89sQOKasInterestingly, the video is very big on this teal color too. Could just be where the "leaker" got the color for that sound type symbol, though the one in the video is notably more vibrant. The teal is also prevalent in the new logo for the Live Project Voltage concert so could just be the color for the concert for some reason.But it's still awfully suspicious...
>>58976759>Redditbob Go back
>>58979062a new sound eeveelution would be really awkward when Sylveons entire playstyle is spamming hyper voice.
>>58976644>Project Voltage comes backBut it never left in first place, it has been running non stop for two years.
>>58997311The new Rotom's aura looks teal to me, although it's a greener shade.Bros, I'm starting to believe...
>>58995415>The Rotom form could be legitimate but most likely as its Normal type form.I don't think it's even a form. The "forms" in Pokopia seem to be individual characters for the game. Like are people expecting greedent to get a form that gives it a fucking chef hat
>>58997911I haven't been following Pokopia at all so I don't know how this compares, but the Rotom is introduced as "Rotom (Stereo Rotom)" and then we find out its name is DJ Rotom. Why would it be called Stereo Rotom in the cutscene if the NPC's name is DJ Rotom? Only makes sense if Stereo Rotom is a new form, unless all of the NPC pokemon have two names like this.The aura is also significant because Rotom only has that aura in its battle forms. We get new NPC-only Rotom forms every generation now and they NEVER have it.
>>58997654normal electrik? yeah, mee too
>>58997911Was there a case in the past where features in a spin-off were later introduced in the mainline games? I'd name Jessie and James as well as Ash-Greninja as examples, though they're anime-related.
>>58998138As far as I recall, the only real example would be them trying to cash in on pokemania 2 by making meltan/melmetal as basically exclusive shillmons for Pokemon Go and then LGPE as a tie in game to try to get some of the Go players into the main series.There was also the manaphy egg you could obtain from Pokemon Ranger, although that was also basically a movie tie in.
>>58976644Please kill yourself.
>>58985153You forgot Toxtricity who is very heavily associated with sound, but it would be really awkward to change one of his typesMaybe they could change Punk Rock to be STAB with Sound type moves so Toxtricity could finally have STAB Boomburst without Tera normal
>>58994319>It's odd that the Stereo Form has this distinct music note symbol within its energy outline. The other forms don't have thatCould be that the note is specific to pokopia, but all of the forms have a uniquely shaped energy appendices like oven mittens or washing machine rotom's whatever that is. And since the stereo rotom's one is basically the same as the ice type's, maybe they added the note for the distinction.It's too much to be a coincidence and adding a new type via pokopia would be a great marketing move to make a lot of noise around the game
>>58998138Bonsly and Munchlax premiered in XD.
>>58998362>XDXD
>>58998138lucario in mystery dungeon
>>58987414It should be super effective against Ice and Rock too.
>>58998623I like the reason why it would be strong against ice but ice is already so weak...
>>58997654>>58996529>>58995938>>58994808>>58994189Sound or Music could have worked up to Gen 3. After the Ph/Special split, sound just became an attribute like contact moves. Normal will lose identity. Also Sound-mon resistances do not bear any credence. Like what ? Vibration shivers countering FROST ? Noise variant of Intimidate lowers Sp.Atk ? or perhaps a general resistance to Psychic following the logic of OWN TEMPO ? Should sound be 2x against the Serene Fairies ? or Psychic ? Should the Deaf Bugs be immune ?
>>58998327They could have chosen a different shape to reference music or sound. The outline doesn't have to be jagged as seen with the Fan form, so something resembling a music note would have been possible. Especially the quarter rest symbol would be a perfect fit, as it resembles a lightning bolt.>washing machine rotom's whatever that isIt's both a clothespin and an A (for aqua). Clever design.>And since the stereo rotom's one is basically the same as the ice type's, maybe they added the note for the distinctionThe Frost form is really an outlier, both its outline doesn't reference anything (at least I don't see how it's related to ice) and it has a purple color instead of light blue (obviously to distinguish it from the Standard form). Which also means Stereo Rotom's design could be totally valid, as they allowed Frost Rotom as an exception.>>58998259Why so negative?
>>58976644My question is... Wouldn't something like a new type have come up somewhere in the Teraleak? Like it's not like some minor thing, it implies revising the type chart, changing old moves and retconing pokemon (also retconing Terapagos design, lol). Not something that you really pull out of thin air middle development.Also it's just me or wouldn't it be weird if the added a new type and we got stuck with 19 types. It feels, like, at that point just make another one and have 20.
>A new illustration titled ‘Leeks and Lies’ featuring voicebank Kasane Teto was released on March 1, 2026.Is this a thing? Idk
>>58999315Wasn't any information regarding upcoming titles withheld by the hackers themselves, out of fear of getting legally fucked by Nintendo? That was the case with Z-A, if I'm not mistaken. If so, any mention about a new type could be theoretically inside the files concerning WiWa, but we wouldn't know.>wouldn't it be weird if the added a new type and we got stuck with 19 types. It feels, like, at that point just make another one and have 20.Before Fairy, there were 17 types from Gen2 to Gen5, so I don't think an odd number like 19 would be an issue.
>>58999379Is what a thing?
>>58999379Oh, the lie is that there's no such thing as a Baguette Pokémon, and Kasane uses a Sudowoodo, the Mimic Pokémon.Although I don't know why she doesn't use the Bread Dog from Paldea.
>>58999379>>58999468I hope Teto gets more types on her birthday.
>>58998138Literally the whole rollout for Gen 4 because it was a 4 year gap between D/P and R/S
>>58999743She doesn't have type, she is the "rival" and her pokemon have themes related to her, piruette meloeeta has her drill hair (fun fact: she doesn't like when people refer to her hair as "drill hair), sudowoodo and mimiku because she is a "mimic of miku", they haven't showed other pokemon with her but people assume they would be fire time Sylvanny (because she is a chimera) and that bread doggo from paldea (she loves bread).
>>58998656Ice is fragile.
>>58994411It's been dead for 15 years anon, let it go
>>58999843>because she is a chimerawhat? I don't know the lore of Miku and co, but that sounds interesting
>>58998623Ice and Rock are in a similar position as Bug where it's really easy to justify making them weak to something
>>58990126>>ElectricElectrode and Toxtricity amped>>DragonNoivern>>IceJynx>>DarkObstagoon>>PoisonToxtricity low key form>>RockLycanrock dusk form>>GroundI dont know
>>59001307Bug should be super effective and resistant to Ghost, since bugs consume corpses and are immune to ghostly possessions, unlike more "complex" entities.
>>59001272Teto is an April Fools joke from 2008 where they tricked people into thinking she was the latest release in the Character Voice series. They had a fake webpage that would play Teto saying "You are really stupid" when you clicked her demo and her profile was filled with odd things like being 31 despite looking like a teen, calling her tsundere and a chimera.
>>58979494>Ground should have immunity to soundQuite the opposite. In oil wells, sonic tools are used to take measurements due to sound waves traveling through ground/rock.
>>58990126>Sound/Psychic>ChimechoConsidering Chimecho’s mega grants it Steel type, I’d probably make regular Chimecho mono-Sound type.Now that I think about it, why is Chimecho Psychic type anyway?
>>58976644People asking for a sound type need to realise Sound is a subtypeThat's like asking for a Biting or Punching type
>>59001272>>59001405They're pairing her with Sudowoodo because she was a fake vocaloid. It's a cute idea honestly.We should get a Grass/Rock type Sudowoodo evolution to honor her becoming a full Vocaloid now.
>>59001911>We should get a Grass/Rock type Sudowoodo evolution to honor her becoming a full Vocaloid now.I like that one where it grows moss on its little ball finger things to become an actual pseudo-tree. I know, ironic to describe it that way, but whatever.
what if its called "music" type instead
>>59001949we already discussed thismusic type is more likely than sound type because sound type has too much overlap with the sound property for moves that has existed since gen 3
Okay but what could be some new sound-type moves that don't currently exist?
>Pokemon WINDS and WAVES>WIND instruments>sound WAVES
>>59002239Echo: An attack that repeats every turn.Pied Piper: An attack that controls the opponent, forcing them to attack their teammate.Sperm Whale Sonar: Stuns and damages the opponent. This effect is amplified if the field is under Rain or a Water Terrain.
>>59002499>Echo: An attack that repeats every turn.We already have echoed voice
>>59002239>Infrasound - Bypasses barriers and lowers special defense>Volume Increase - 2 stage damage boost that only affects following sound type moves>Howling Gale - Big damage and can cause confusion
So what about physical Sound moves?You basically just end up with 'Loud sound right on top of you' something other types don't suffer from because Sound type just isn't that fast and loose as a concept
>>59002239It’d lean pretty non-physical like Psychic but that’s alright >Cacophony - 110 BP/85 Acc - Special - Big damage move, takes its name from the unused Gen 3 ability >Cadence Step - Status - Puts the user in a Cadence state where they copy all stat changes undergone by the target (foe or ally), lasts 5-8 turns>Percussive Beat - 90 BP/100 Acc - Phys - Strikes the foe with a fist or tail that leaves a strong sonic aftershock
Not to shit in anyone's parade, but Stereo Rotom is confirmed to be Electric/Normal in Pokopia
>>59002820Magnemite was pure Electric in Stadium, trust the plan
>>59001949>>59002158pretty likely slant to all this, I wouldn't be mad>>59002239>Shout (weak early route special move)>Drum (weak early route physical move)>Dogwhistle (status move that lowers opponent's physical and special defense by 1 stage)>Echolocate (status move that locates opponent, like Odor Sleuth)>Infrasound (very weak special move, like 10bp, that hits the opponent's entire team at once.)>Listen In (Lets you swap out if your opponent swaps that turn) (sounds useless but would see use in competitive I'm 99% sure)>Percussive Strike (80bpish physical that can lower defense or special defense)>Report (40bp physical priority move)>Yodel (100bp special move, opponent's "side" uses it the next turn (hilarious but also not a problem if sound is immune to itself like a lot of people want)>Tailrattle (status move that makes the opponent flinch if they haven't moved yet)>Rumble (basically sound-type earthquake)>>59002283KINO!!!! I CLAPPED!!!!!
>>59002603>something other types don't suffer fromfire, electric, water...???
>>59002820Out of curiosity, do any of the other "unusual" pokemon like the mosslax or the depressed pikachu have a special typing?
>>59002239A chest beating move for the monkeys and apes
>>59001471>Now that I think about it, why is Chimecho Psychic type anyway?See last paragraph >>58985153>>59002820Sauce?
