To everyone saying Winds/Water isn't a huge improvement, it is. Just look at this. LOOK AT THIS.
>water
>>58976867>that tree was defended by millions
>>58976867Yeah having to drink piss is a huge improvement from having to eat shit
>>58976867Improving from an N64 tree to an PS3 tree isn't that impressive considering it is the highest grossing franchise.It's like comparing raw chicken to an uncooked one. Different levels of bad, and them needing to take more than three years to make even passable to match 3d games from two console generations ago is embarrassing and should be met with more resistance.
Or this
>>58976867You spent the last five years defending that tree though?
>>58976867It's amazing how good Pokemon can be when a game isn't set in Eur*pe.
>>58977179HOLY FUCKING KEK
>>58976867SwSh was bad but it somehow was more palatable than SV
>>58977287swsh should've never had those wild areas
>>58977287>the entire region was one hallway>more palatablelmfao
>>58977287DLC which should've been apart of the main game.
>>58977287SV were genuinely some of the worst games in the series, and people will defend it because muh open world
>XY cut postgame, had a lower roster count, and had hallway routes almost everywhere except for route 8 and 15/16>SM had hallway routes and no significant ocean exploration even though they were set on fucking islands>Sword/Shield had a hallway fucking REGION and shit wild area>SV had an empty ass overworld with broken progression>WW finally had time to develop its world and environmentsGame Freak redeemed
>>58977417Local man's pattern recognition fails him yet again.
>>58977287SV mogs the fuck out of SwSh in every way
>>58977179SVsisters....
>>58976867If Winds and Waves looked like SWSH only with the higher res textures of the trailer then I would've said we're backPokemon needs to go back to its anime roots
>>58977287I swear some of you niggas will just say anything
>>58977373the difference is incrediblei don't remember scatvomit looking so awful
>>58977373remember when everyone was saying the bugs and glitches in SV were only because the game was running on an emulator? and then the game actually released and all those same bugs and glitches were on real hardware?lmao
>>58977434>SV mogs the fuck out of SwSh in every way
>>58977434SV is the worst game in the franchise and it’s not even close
>>58977455SwSh sometimes looked okay
>>58976867>Meanwhile in SVSV is the 2nd most sold Pokemon game by the way. Literally how.
>>58977549>SwSh is the worst game in the franchise and it’s not even closeftfy
>>58976867Swsh and SV are genuinely good games, people here only take all the nitpicks they can find and exaggerate the shit out of them.The main game experience is extremely solid as always, there's a reason why these sold so well.
>>58977583>The main game experience is extremely solid as always, there's a reason why these sold so well.Because its fucking pokemon nigga
>>58977455I like SwSh's style more than whatever the fuck SV's was, Winds and Waves is kinda leaning the SwSh way but with better graphics
>>58977455>>58977529>>58977606SWSH easily has the best artstyle in the franchise, to bad it was in development for like a year and a half.
>>58977567>Literally how.Sales numbers are always a bait when comparing to something from 10+ years ago. There's like 1 billion more people existing now to 10 years ago and more people have access to buying the consoles now than back then. Digital versions existing now too for poorfag countries. Sales will always be increasing due to those points. You see that with other switch titles all being in the top half tooReally puts it into perspective JUST how many sold for R/G/B G/S
>>58977603Tell me why SM/USUM sold less than Swsh and SV, those games are also fucking pokemon, but for some reason there's a massive gap in sales...
>>58977876Trvth
>>58977567DLCS instead of Third versions/sequel games, solidifying sales instead of splitting them across multiple games.If you look at the numbers for the original Sinnoh games, DPPT sold around 24-25 million together, which puts it just above Gold and Silver. If you want the dlc for the new games you gotta get the game itself.Also, comp started really taking off in Gen 8, a lotta people got into pokemon just because they wanted to play the competitive pvp rpg. >>58977864gen 7 sold well for the time. Pretty much everything sold less than gets 8 and 9 atp.>>58977801>There's like 1 billion more people existing nowAnd they're all chinese/indian, thus irrelevant to this discussion
>>58977876This but Scarlet and Violet
>>58976867They've "hugely improved" from N64 graphics to Dreamcast graphics while the gameplay is still frozen in 1996 (and was already outdated back then). Why should we be impressed with this from the highest-grossing media franchise on the planet?
>>58976867how is this much better?
Look at this shit, the pokeball doesn't even hit the pokemon, it just stops mid air magically and opens and stays there floating
>>58977373I'm convinced Nintendo put their foot down and told Game Freak to stop fucking around. Scarlet and Violet's abysmal reception probably helped.
>>58977370>DLC which should've been apart of the main game.The DLC was apart of the main game. That's why it was sold separately.
>>58978588>Scarlet and Violet's abysmal receptionWasn't the best selling pokemon game of all times?IF not first may be second only after original that has been a thing for 30 years.How is that an "abysmal reception"?
>>58977287Both were shit and skippable, but SWSH's pokemon designs were slightly less shit than SV's
>>58977472>>58976977What makes so many people defend this franchise like that? I love this franchise but I am capable to point out where they're fucking up.What's the difference?
>>58976977It's a tree who gives a shit. SwSh isn't bad because of a tree, it's bad because everything else is shit. People getting autistic about dumb shit like this just means less complaining about the real problems.
>>58977472I played SV for 800 hours. The bugs I ran into were lighting issues (shadows would disappear if camera was moved in a certain position) or getting stuck on objects in the overworld where the game forces you to respawn. Whenever I asked people to link me their personal recorded videos bugs they would either attack me personally or link one of the 10 twitter videos that got spammed everywhere.
>>58978722It sold well but that didn't stop people making a mockery of it. The biggest gaming franchise in the world is putting out games that have PS2 quality.Also it helps that they're using unreal engine now, instead of gamefreaks shitty OC engine they can barely hold together (looking at that SV performance).
>>58979109>it helps that they're using unreal engine nowWasn't an in-house engine for WW as said from the leaks?
