gen 10 starters only please. Post what you got. Also, try to limit those made with AI
>>59004248Did this guy ever posted full bodies? I like the heads.
Off to a great start...
>>59004252op here, it doesn't matter if they are shit or somehow good, i just want to see what people think
>>59004251i dont know
>>59004235Why can't Gamefreak do this? Why can't they just make creature designs that simply look cool? Everybody wants this. Everybody would be happy with this. We don't want to have our expectations subverted all the time. We don't want our starters to be goofy and have a "theme" (a.k.a. a job).
>>59004266Dog's head looks like a bat
>>59004281Theres like 1-2 extreme autists who may reply to you before this thread dies going on about how actually "monster design" means man in a suit and will probably post Blaziken like 30 times (like people on twitter are doing) and try to push that theres literally no difference between Blaziken and Quaquaval and this means that Charizard is Inteleon.
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>>59004281I dunno, why can't you disposable dickheads understand you're not important any longer. That you in fact HAD your time in focus and the results of your generation helped shape their future to now (everything is built off the backs f the previous Gens and reception to their creatures). "Everyone" clearly doesn't want what you want, because quadrupeds are still treated as ignored worthless shitmon, never mind of all the affirmed shillmon, Eevee and its evolutions are the only quadrupeds kids and casuals adopted en masse. Even Gen 9 that had a decently popular Quad saw it only beat the fembait duck while losing horrifically to the shillmon cat, which /vp/ hates because wifumon and bipedal. If that kind of shit was popular outside minority contrarian cunts, they'd be shilling them to fuck to make more filthy amounts of profit off like they do with Cinderace, Lucario, Zeraora, Charizard, Pikachu. Stoop pretending like an incel's opinion or desire is pervasive a mentality and mindset that extends to the casuals that make up the bulk of the adult sales. In case you missed it, they're eating up all Game Freak's shit with a spoon and asking for seconds, thirds and fourths.
>>59004341Gecqua if it was Gen 9
>>59004266Fucking hate these but they're also by far the closest to what I think they end up looking like
>>59004425I dont think they'll let it look TOO indian or whatever because they don't want to be accused or creating a racist stereotype. Creating stereotypes of english or spanish speaking countries is fine, brown people not so much.
>>59004281>We"We" are a minority. People at large and ESPECIALLY the nips love goofy and eat that shit up for weeks. Now you know why, you're welcome
>>59004326holy shit what a faggot. did you abuse your autism meds today?
>>59004408>>59004331I think these are on the right track, especially after last gen
>it’ll likely be at least a year before we see the actual final evolutions>they will be a disappointment compared to fanart made is less than a week
>>59004281Unfortunately the majority of people (especially late zoomers that started with the 3DS games) are fine with the furry jobmons. On Xitter and Reddit you get bad reactions if you say that you want traditional animalistic starters. And given the popularity of Meowscarada, it is very unlikely they will stop doing jobmons starters.
>>59004321I love this one.
>>59004502>>59004613Well people happily eat up shitty graphics anyway, so if the argument is "if it sells don't fix it" then Gamefreak had no need to improve the graphics engine for Gen 10.
>>59004586It's amazing how often the truth is just the opposite of what /vp/ thinks. Truly the world's worst taste
Another water fagotmon. Why can't we get aggresively looking water starter? And is it only me, or does this models looks hella simple in comparsion to past starters?
>>59004772I dont think there's a single piece of fanart for any of the gen 8 starters or Quaquaval that ended up worse than the final product.Usually fanart is worse though since they creatively limit themselves in ways Game Freak does not. Fanart often tries too hard to look like it doesnt go too far or something.
>>59004248This is literally the only one I’ve seen so far that looks believable for what they would look likeThe rest fall into the same trap these dogshit artists always do where they just take the first stage and then make it bigger and more overdesigned. Bonus points if they don’t even change up the color scheme.
>>59004856This whole image is just a post-hoc rationalization from someone who simply likes Meowscarada because it makes his dick hard.
>>59004281Because Pokemon are meant to have their own personalities not just be trophies to the trainer's "coolness." Best example is probably the image here >>59004856Fan-artists keep falling into the trap of "just make it edgy/cool" when Pokemon itself has long left that behind to focus on designs that showcase how your starter grows into themselves alongside you.
>>59004281>Why can't they just make creature designs look like forgettable overdesigned digimon?
>>59004923>Because Pokemon are meant to have their own personalitiesThey're animals, not characters. They shouldn't have fixed personalities and they shouldn't act like people.>Well that's just how it isYeah and we're saying it shouldn't be.
>>59004235>DUDE JUST RANDOMLY MAKE IT A SABERTOOTH LMAOwe're really doing this shit for the 3rd time now?>>59004281>Everybody would be happy with thisI wouldn'tall the designs in the OP are boring as piss
>>59004932>forgettableThere's nothing positively memorable about generic anthros like Incineroar or Inteleon. If they're remembered at all it's because of how much people despise them.
As all have stated, its not about bipedalism, while obviously there's many who dont like bipedalism in any of its forms, its like...If Pombon turned into left doodle, it would be far less controversial than when it inevitably turns into the right doodle. The right doodle is what the starters keep doing now, what literally everyone except contrarians, or people who thinks they're stunning and brave because they're furries or gay or something, dislikes them.Charizard is still the most popular starter, its popular for a reason, people do not WANT their starters to have these personalities, because they want to project a personality onto it based off of the adventure they had together with it.
>>59004955>As all have stated, its not about bipedalism, it's about the pokemon not being fatevery time
>>59004936>They're animals, not characters.imagine being this retarded>Yeah and we're saying it shouldn't be.tell that to genwun
>>59004962>jobmon>jobmon but it actually looks and behaves like an animal and not a guy in a fursuitftfy
>>59004973>all animals are fatlose weight
>>59004962>Bottom row is literally betterYou're not proving any sort of point, the job doesn't completely overwhelm the base design, and thus its far superior to what they're doing at the top."Wow isnt it crazy how Chocolate and poop are both brown! clearly this means you're hypocritical for not eating shit!"
>>59004980>Bottom row is literally betterYes anon we know you have a fat fetish.>the job doesn't completely overwhelm the base designYeah true, the job doesn't completely overwhelm Incineroar and Primarina, they still looks like a tiger and sea lion. Not sure what this has to do with your fat fetish though.
>>59004965>tell that to genwunCharizard, Blastoise and Venusaur are all animals, they're not anthro jobmons with subversive unexpected evolutions and exaggerated "themes" like this shitty image describes >>59004856The fact of the matter is that the series started with a design philosophy that was much closer to OP's image than the garbage like Incineroar, Cinderace, Inteleon, Meowscarada and Quaquaval we've been getting lately.
animals like lizard man with belt and panties, man with boxing gloves, man who hypnotized women, literally my moms mime, nigger lady
>>59004994the gen 1 starters already had subversive and unexpected evolutionsjust look at all the people screeching over blastoise having cannons out of nowhere
>>59004994>charizardboring ass dragon >venusaur bulbasaur but a fat fuck>blastoisefatfuck with metal guns
bros why did nature make basilisk lizards a humanoid character instead of a fat animal?
>>59005014>bipedal lizard>bipedal lizard with wingswow much subversion>people screeching over blastoise having cannons out of nowhereliterally never happenedit's clear that you're just being contrarian for the sake of trolling. you know what the popular criticisms are, so you're being intentionally obtuse and defending the indefensible just to rile people up.
>>59005019>fatfuck with metal guns...Is that supposed to be unappealing?
I love animals like ball with a smiley face and pile of purple slop so much bros
>>59005030animals don't have metal guns
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>>59005025There's nothing humanoid about it. This just proves that you can make animals that are bipedal and not fat and yet still look like animals with the right proportions, posture, general body plan and behavior. oh, and no faux-clothing or auxiliary objects that their entire design theme depends on.
>>59005041why are you ignoring this?>>59005004
>>59005029>cat>cat standing upwow so much subversion
>>59005045Ignoring what? That exceptions always existed? Those were just that, exceptions, not an established rule that every evo line has to follow like this image claims >>59004856
>>59005056so the they’re animals thing is bullshit?concession accepted
>>59004856>muh "subverting expectations" as a good thingwhoever made that image should kill themselves but not before killing all their furry discord tranny "friends"
>>59004502>People at large and ESPECIALLY the nips love goofy and eat that shit up for weeks.Is that why Vanilluxe almost singlehandedly caused gen 5 to fail
>>59005038Animals can't summon thunder, can't learn karate/judo and don't have psychic abilities either. What's your point?
>>59004361I saw many Pombon-Barong prediction, but this one genuinely my most favourite so far. It's also looks convincing for Pokémon starter line
>>59005068but they can have spoons and championship belts and look completely humaoid
>>59004613>On Xitter and Reddit you get bad reactions if you say that you want traditional animalistic starters.There's literally a meme on twt right now that pombon better not stand up on two legs its clear people are tired of the jobmon trend
>>59005059>machoke exists therefore every starter has to be a machoke
You cant even clarify machoke as a jobmon. They wear wrestling belts but their entire personality isn't built around wrestling like incelroar. Without the belt machoke is just some weird reptilian humanoid who performs manual labor, not a cartoon character with a fixed personality
>>59005075>Pokemon are le animals!!!!1!1!>list all the non animals in KAAAAAANTOOOOOOO>d-d-doesn't c-c-countmany such cases
>>59005089>literal wrestling man with a belt and speedo isnt s jobmon new retard cope just dropped
>>59004281>WeI like Inteleon and Meowscarada. Fuck you.
>>59004235Bird evo could use a bit more work the other two are too kino for lamefreak
>>59005105>I like InteleonIm sorry for your terminally dreadful taste
>>59005062>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A SURPRISING TWIST THAT LEAVES A LASTING MEMORABLE IMPRESSION ON THE PLAYER THAT MAKES THEM MORE ATTACHED TO THE POKEMON!>YOU HAVE TO MAKE EVERY STARTER FAT BORING DOGSHIT!
>>59004235They look like legendary Pokemon
I like how the jobmon fag lets emboar live in xeir head rent free
>>59005113Whatever you say barafag
>>59004281Not every Pokemon needs to be cool or cute, having dumb, ugly, and/or weird designs can be actually pretty fun and adds variety. Look at Dragon Quest, Digimon, or Yokai Watch for example.
>>59004890True but he is right, first form but bigger is barely ever the case and never for starters which clearly get more attention then run of the mill pokemon.
>>59004281Those designs are boring as fuck, they look like generic creatures you would farm in a mobile game.Wether we get humanoid or animalistic pokemon all starters need to stand out on their own, and the ones in OPs picture can't do that
>>59005163Fakemon in rom hacks are actually so bizzare because they are so clean and normal that yeah I can actually see it evolve into that which is never how actual pokemon works
>>59004400>>59004354>>59005039These are th best ones in this thread
>>59004994>>59005014Blastoise has cannons out of nowhere because it was from a different line originally.Venusaur is typical "It just gets bigger"Charizard is "It gets bigger" with wings.
>>59004955>people do not WANT their starters to have these personalitiesEvery day /vp/ manages to become even more retarded and delusional.
>>59004994Pokemon are monsters and should not be limited by something so silly as animal relatability If it looks good, it's fineMy issue with litten is not that he turns into a wrestler but that the 2nd form doesn't already start hinting at that. It should have been the same size but least on its hind legs with maybe the belt
Can you please stop fighting and post fakemons?
>>59005193>Blastoise has cannons out of nowhere because it was from a different line originally.And it was put in the same line in the final game. Why do you think they made that choice, dumbassio?>Charizard is "It gets bigger" with wings.Yes, the twist is that it gets wings. If a dumbfuck fan artist like OP's image designed it it would just be a bigger more overdesigned Charmander.
>>59005413we ran out
>>59005062Least unhinged jobmon hater
>>59005163>never for startersWhat??? MOST starter final evos are just "first form but bigger and more detailed".
>>59005425>Yes, the twist is that it gets wings.Oh so if the Gecqua final evo from the OP had wings it would be an acceptable twist for you? Is that all it's lacking?
>>59005483Yeah…like Venusaur, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Swampert, and….uh……..um……..
>>59005488It would still be overdesigned dogshit, and it would just be a lazy repeat of Charizard, so no.
>>59005489Charizard, Venusaur, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Meganium, Swampert, Sceptile, Torterra, Infernape, Empoleon, Greninja, Cinderace. All of them just get bigger. They don't change their body plan, they don't become a different creature, there's nothing conceptually different about their design aside from size and detail.
Here's mineLiterally just made this
>>59005581not bad, i would like a fatty lizard, with this pose
>>59004292That's because it's a barong.>>59004483I like this one, but it might be considered too close to a digimon design. Would work well for a new shishimai plush at Pokecen though.
>>59005675>anything higher in detail is immediately digimonanon it looks like yo-kai watch or spectrobes
>>59005705I've never played those so I was just thinking of the way the mouths and eyes work on some digimon, especially the shishimai's straight flat teeth and lips. You can see that in like caesarmon, caturamon, wendigomon.
>>59004856Left>looks cool, would put on my team, especially this dude, he's sickRight>ooooooooough fuuuuuuuuuuuck my penis is geting aroused!!1! wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords
>>59004326I can forgive all the shillmons except fucking Zerazorathat fucker does not look like a fucking pokemon
>>59004508>no counter argument>seethes violently insteadDon't need any but it sure as fuck looks like you skipped a couple doses the past 24 hours.
>>59005219It does though, its forelegs are far longer than its back legs and its markings ape an amateur wrestler's singlet (because one of the constants in Pro Wrestling before Vince screwed the industry was getting blokes from an amateur bg where possible, as they could make the light look legit AND be able to protect themselves from any shooters with a bad attitude). they may not have done enough to hint at the end result but they did in fact indicate the progression. Problem was everybody was too mad over it stabnduing up to actually look at the line to see WHY the cunt stood up.
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>>59005892>It does though, its forelegs are far longer than its back legs and its markings ape an amateur wrestler's singletliteral fanfiction
>>59004235So generic and boring. I can't believe some of you actually like this. Thank god you fags (or all these fan artists) aren't in charge of Pokémon, if they only did forgettable "cool" slop like this, Pokémon would've faded into obscurity decades ago. Same reason why all the "Pokémon killers" are huge flops. People really don't know how to design things with charm.>>59004241>literally "it just gets bigger" Fucking hell.
>>59004932>Why can't they just make creature designs look like [franchise made by devs that respects their monsters and fans infinitely more than Game Freak]?Oh no, what a nightmare
>>59006046>digishit>having fansKEK
>>59005214explain why CHARIZARD mogs ever fushit jobmon in popularity then?
I love the Pombon evos with hair covering their eyes. Those are super cute.Personally hope they don't go for a multi-headed Cerberus type thing like a lot of people seem to want.
>>59006104I doubt they'd make a starter multi-headed, multiple heads makes a creature way less relatable (even Hydreigon has an obviously main head and then sockpuppet arms), and the starters are supposed to be the most sorta charismatic well liked relatable mons in the dex.The only way he'd get 3 heads is if the other 2 were made of fire or something and were fake.
>>59004856>GF subverted expectations by doing exactly what they almost ALWAYS do, bipedal startersYou fags are using this shitcanned argument ever since shitroar was leaked and you're STILL fucking wrong about it.
>>59005019If CHARIZARD is so boring, why is it the most important Pokémon in the franchise?
>>59005581awesome
>>59006163>they always do it!!!and yet every fan artist continues to make shitty generic animals for their “””predictions”””
>>59004281Gamefreak knows furfags and pedos will shell out a fuck ton of money on the franchise if they appease them enough, and the designs are tame enough to make retarded little kids think of glorified cartoon characters like greninja as super heckin cool.
>>59004321>>59004331>>59004383>>59004414>>59004408>>59004432>>59005039I am so repulsed by these that I legit think Gamefreak would make it
>>59005984> So generic and boring. Like game freak’s games >I can't believe some of you actually like this. I can’t believe some of you defend lame freak >Thank god you fags (or all these fan artists) aren't in charge of PokémonWhy? Fans have shown to care more about Pokemon than retard freak>, if they only did forgettable "cool" slop like this, Pokémon would've faded into obscurity decades ago.And the most popular pokemon is CHARIZARD which they go out of their way to make as cool as possible evening handicapping other mons to make ZARDy look cooler >Same reason why all the "Pokémon killers" are huge flops. Cope >People really don't know how to design things with charmWhat’s charming about faggots in fursuits?
>>59004364Chronomon ass nigga
>>59004432>what if we made intelleon but somehow uglier
>>59006388>lame freakYou need to be 18 or older to post here.
>>59006357How would Game Freak make all these concepts that look nothing alike, nor remotely like their style?Did you turn on your monitor?
>>59006346>and the designs are tame enough to make retarded little kids think of glorified cartoon characters like greninja as super heckin cool.The kalos starters are definitely the least offensive jobmons because nothing about their design conveys a particular personality. The problem with jobmons from 7 onwards is that not only do they have horrible anatomy with ugly sausage fingers and tube arms but their entire personality revolves around their job. Theyre reduced to caricatures instead of creatures.
>>59006409Literal children's franchise.This board is a good argument for banning the internet for kids. Only adults here are manchildren and pedophiles
>>59006428Kalos starters are designed to be shilled mascots, the only one of the three that they managed to hit homerun with was Greninja. It’s the same syndrome as other successful ones like Lucario or failed ones like Zoroark and Zeraora, just a marketing ploy at the expense of the franchise’s identity of POCKET MONSTERS.
>>59004281Like it or not Pokemon is under the whims of the suits in charge and if they think that it would be more profitable to have a couple of human shaped starter pokemon each generation then there is not much we can do about it. Especially since they seem to be desperate to reproduce Greninja's popularity and to add another playable starter pokemon to Smash.
>>59004281>Everybody wants this. Everybody would be happy with this.I don't want this. I would not be happy with this. Don't speak for me. I've never seen a fakemon I like more than the real evolutions, ever.
>>59004235neat looking gecqua evo>>59004237I'd like this>>59004248no fullbody but the faces are promising across the board>>59004321gives me heavy Lilo & Stitch vibes
>>59004936No, Anon. They're monsters. The 151 weren't "just animals" and never were that restricting when it came to their inspiration and design. The first pokemon you meet are definitely animal-like, but aren't expected to stay "just animals" for their entire evolutionary line. The real problem are starters evolving into archetypes, not jobmons. I can imagine a Blaziken being shy, ferocious, thoughtful, energetic, and whatever else without betraying the ideas its design communicates. Meanwhile, something like Meowscarada is stuck being the smug trickster cat and would revolve around that trait 24/7.
>>59006327Because they still have HOPE for something different from the usual bipedal starters>shitty generic animalsLel the only difference is that one official while the others arent,.GF lost its touch decades ago, hence why they would rather recycle older mon than making more new ones.
>>59004235>2/3 final evolves being quadrupeds. Totally delusional.
if there's ONE thing i dislike about fanmade gecqua's evos is that almost none of them keep it's uniquely shaped limbs
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>>59007541First one I actually kinda like. The midstage is adorable
>>59004248These would be really good if true.
>>59004266>>59004408I am in love! I just know I'm gonna get femboy'd by Gamefuck though.
>>59004408>fingers this>eye movements thatMeanwhile, my monkey brain is locked in right here.
>>59005054You'd be surprised if your cat started to stand up and walking on 2 legs, retard
Bump
>>59004432Is it suppose to be Bayonetta?
I just hope the lizard will be the designated slut mon like what Meowscarada is in gen 9 and Cinderace in gen 8.
people hating on humanoid and job mons its always funny as fuck because these have been part of the franchise's design philosophy since day 1>>59004994>>59004281>>59006388>>59006428>>59006648
>>59004235I like that lizard, though I'd scrub the tear drops and scale things from its back. Wouldn't mind the bird either.Kind of depressing looking at some of the designs ITT and knowing the actual starters will just be some dogshit yet again
>>59009003Are people who make this argument just shitposting or are they naturally retarded? It's hard to tell on /vp/
>>59004969I think this my favorite Pombon evo idea I’ve seen yet. I love the curved fangs and shaggy bangs
>>59009008why retarded? old humanoid mons get a pass becausee...?
>>59008978Cinderace is a dude
>>59009028Various design and circumstantial differences that would be a waste of my time and effort to write about when no one on this board is interested in genuine discussion
>>59009032>when no one on this board is interested in genuine discussionI just asked, but whatever, be a retard>Various design and circumstantial differencesI already can smell your shitty arguments lmaokeep seething over humanoid looking mons
>>59004235jesus christ these look so good. Like, the colors work, for once. Why can't gamefreak make a gen again where ALL starters look good?
>>59004281Preach.
>>59004235>try to limitThis sentence doesn't do anything for this thread. Ban it entirely, or AI jeets are still going to think they can post AI slop. You can't take half measures on bullshit. >I like the Gecqua evolution, though these all feel like Legendaries, even by modern standards. >>59004341This one is awesome.>>59009032Cannot argue for shit award.
>>59009031Still a total slut
>>59009003>Hitmon, Jynx, Mr.MimeGarbage >MachampGood>Primape, KangaskhanThese are not humanoids.
>>59004856Feeling subverted yet ? >>59007548
Evolution predictions made by an actual 9 years old child
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>>59009463>>59009465Kid's likely nailed these two. Can forgive it for not seeing the girlyness of Gecqua.
>>59009465This one is pretty dope, a bit like a cryptid.
>>59009463>>59009465>>59009469He has a true future with gamefreak
>>59009473i think it's supposed to be a samurai-like owl
>>59009463>>59009465>>59009469imagine if people just started bullying the child only because he made them all anthro lol
>>59004281Fanart faggots don't understand they are fucking themselves.They draw all these "cool" designs, and Game Freak HAS to make it different. They have no choice but to make some cringeworthy gay bullshit because it's the only way to dodge similarity to fanart.
>>59009492>>59009463>>59009465Or maybe it's because kids think bipeds are cooler these days.
>>59009540>These days Lucario was THE shillmon even years ago
>>59009492You really don’t understand how game development works? Game freak is full of retard child-raping kikes but even they understand that leaving major things like the fucking starter evos unfinished this close to the release is asking for disaster. The game is already done or at least mostly done. They can’t change the starters now even if they wanted too Though maybe you’re right they would change the evos this late because of som fanart, if that’s the case then they’re even more lazy and repetitive than I thought and I don’t hate those pedos enough. >>59009540Who cares about kids these days. the games are made for 40 year olds who played KANTOOOOOOOOOOO. None of the KANTOOOOOOOOOOO starters are Fursuits and cereal mascots and they’re by far the most successful.
>>59009690Nah, I'm saying they already designed them to be gross and unpredictable to get ahead of the fanart.
The problem is that most of these are just animals with fancy colors, anti anthro fags are so desperate to prove they have humanoid designs that they forget to make their quadrupedal monster designs interesting.>>59004235>>59004241>>59004279>>59004295>>59004328>>59004349>>59004373These are, for the most part, boring as fuck and don't stand out at all as a starter design.Some even lack a central distinctive feature that makes the designs uniquely recognizable, rendering the whole creature a featureless monster without any personality...
>>59009716Ah i see >>59009741They’re fairly with the KANTOOO starters that everyone worships
>>59009780Only charizard is worshipped
>>59009690>the games are made for 40 year olds who played KANTOOOOOOOOOOO. if that was the case it would be a kanto remake and it isn't
>>59004235What I've realized since the pokemon leaks is that any attempt to make a cool mon gives Gamefreak ten excuses to make shit mons in retaliation. In short, real artists are killing Pokemon because the creators are too bitterly jealous.
>>59009741Do you need more?For the most part the gen 1-4 starters just get bigger and they're generally well regarded. The other well regarded starter is grenigger which also doesn't change drastically from a frog with a scarf. I'd really prefer if they just grew into the same thing but cooler so I knew what I was getting when I picked my starter
>>59005119This but unironically. Blaziken has always been a piece of shit design by the way. Nice self portrait on the left.
>>59009780>They’re fairly with the KANTOOO starters that everyone worshipsNot at all, you clearly don't understand the designs behind the main Kanto starters.>Blastoise It's main feature are obviously the cannons, that's what makes it unique, but in the earlier gens Blastoise sprites always had these dynamic poses indicating that this thing had no trouble moving despite being a turtle (3D pokemon ruined that but that's another topic)>Venusaur The line follows a clear pattern and the end result with the huge tree on it's back works as the key distinctive feature that makes Venusaur the most unique of the original starters.Unlike Charizard and Blastoise Venusaur actually plays around and breaks free from the anatomy of what we expect from a frog. Carrying something big and cumbersome on your back (like a tree) is often associated with Turtles or camels, frogs are known for jumping around and while not hyper mobile they lack the same sense of bulkiness that we would often associate with the other animals.>Charizard The least visually interesting of the 3, but still having some charm. The flame on its tail being the main distinctive feature, and the one thing keeping it from just being a generic dragon.I find interesting how Charizard's design often holds back with it's elements to give it a unique shape. Instead of going all out to give it huge wings, a tail completely engulfed in flames, and a bulky body, we get moderately sized wings, a tail who's only lit at the tip, and a teardrop shaped body with tiny arms.This gives the lizard a bit of plausibility that grounds it's intended aggressive personality.
>>59009835>For the most part the gen 1-4 starters just get biggerThis is verifiably not true, for the most part every starter line ends up developing something distinctive and unique in their last evolutions.Charizard grows wings, Infernape has armor, Torterra grows a whole tree and rock formations on its shell, Sceptile grows a tree on it's tail, Empoleon Has a crown, Blastoise has Cannons out of nowhere.The ones that actually just grow bigger, Meganium, Feraligart, Thyphosion. Are often the ones people criticize the most. The one exception I think would be Swampert who (as far as I remember) lacks a sudden twist or unique feature and instead just becomes an absolute unit following a streamlined progression from it's pre evolutions. And he is relatively well liked (or at least I don't see people making fun of him)
>>59009849>the least visually interesting design>is the most popular onehmmm
>>59009873>Toad with a bulb gets bigger and the bulb blooms>Lizard gets bigger with wings>Turtle gets bigger with cannons>Dino with a leaf gets bigger and blooms a flower>Whatever the fuck cyndaquil is gets bigger>Croc gets bigger>Bipedal lizard gets bigger and the tail gets more leafy>Baby chick grows into tall bipedal dude based on the concept of a pet chick getting ugly as it ages>Axolotl gets bigger>Turtle with a sprout on its head gets bigger and blooms into a tree>Monkey gets bigger and more chinese with the implied flame on its head turning to actual flame>Penguin gets an emperor motif (from emperor penguins)About 9/12 are pretty much "starter but cooler/mature" if not 11/12.
>>59005425>Why do you think they made that choice, dumbassioTo consolidate the two different Turtle lines they had into one because of space, not to make Blastoise more of a twist.>Yes, the twist is that it gets wings.Not exactly "subversive" as stated in the post, though.>If a dumbfuck fan artist like OP's image designed it it would just be a bigger more overdesigned Charmander.I'll give you that. Fan designs for final starter forms are almost universally bland as fuck.
>>59004856I think the funniest thing was that the few fan designs of Sprigatito's evolution that weren't bland slop were bipedal.
>>59004235would turn them all into my wives 12/10 designs, too good for switch era gamefreak
>>59007659high T post
>>59005892> its forelegs are far longer than its back legs You debunk yourself on the first phrase.Truly incredible.Sit down,extend you right arm and leg and compare the lengths of the two.You will be surprised.In case you failed to understand,here is the point : You stand on the biggest limb.A terrestrial animal with forelimbs larger and stronger than the hindlimbs is a quadruped.
>>59009915>Whatever the fuck cyndaquil is gets biggerAccording to Japanese fans it's a shrew that turns into a badger, but I always thought it was an echidna. I do like evos that change species inspiration, kid me loved learning to identify tons of animal species so I want kids now to have that same trivia from Pokemon. SEA users have been talking about pombon turning into a dhole because it's their weird regional canid. Unfortunately I think they're going with the calligrapher thing.
>>59009003>people hating shit designs are funny because shit designs have always existed
>>59009915This.Historically most starters were just "it gets bigger" and that was a good thing. Anybody who claims otherwise is a lying retard.
>>59004962I hate the KISS Pokemon. KISS sucks balls and Gene Simmons is an asshole
>>59009915>>Monkey gets bigger and more chinese
>>59004328I like this one
>>59009915if you’re fine with blaziken then you’re fine with every other starter by default, except for samurott who’s complete dogshit for different reasons
>>59007628what you are replying to literally looks like femboyshit though.
>>59007541this is the one
>>59004281>Everybody wants this. Everybody would be happy with this.Clearly, they don't. Johto was exactly want you're asking for, but they're not popular.
>>59012431johto is unpopular because game freak intentionally never shilled them out of spite (they’re bitter that Tajiri abandoned them during Gen 2). The fact that normroid sheep worship Meganium now because jew freak told give a non-skibidi mega proves popularity is entirely due to shilling.
>>59012431he said he wanted creature designs that look cool thoughso that disqualifies johto starters
Pombon will stand.
bump
I've noticed a lot of the final Browt evo speculation seems to veer towards a terror bird design. Which is cool, I've always wanted a terror bird and sabre tooth cat themed mon. Missed opportunity with incineroar by the way considering sabretoothed cats were thought to wrestle their prey to the ground before finishing them off with sabre teeth. A quadruped or at least hunched smilodon dark/fire cat with some wrestler influence would have been cooler than a bara furry.
>>59004856They hated him because he told the truth
>>59009469Lol he looks like he's hanging himself
>>59009835>I'd really prefer if they just grew into the same thing but cooler so I knew what I was getting when I picked my starterThis has been a problem with me since gen 6. I always end up picking a different starter than the one I initially liked the most at reveal. Growt, Pombom, and Gecqua are going to look absolutely nothing like their final evolutions.
pombon evo already leaked
>>59004303>>59004307>>59004313Kino. Too bad they're too "creepy" to be official starters
>>59004326>waah waah I'm a spergy sperg who weighs 500 lbs, smells like a rotten corpse and cam't hold a conversation
>>59014364>Too bad they're too "creepy"
>>59014372By gamefuck's 5 year old target standards they are, notice the quotes retard. They're never adding a two headed dog as a starter.
>>59014391true much more likely to be a legendary
oops it just became bigger
>>59014367>projection and seethe because she has no actual counter-argumentYou didn't have to show me how big an incel you were. I knew you was one, that was enough for me. I also have eyes and been following this shit as a teen since it launched and know "muh mummy's animules" get ignored for the bipedal thing kids think would be a great companion and friend.
>>59011204>applying real world evolutionary processes to pokémonWhat was that about debunking shitheads with what they say? Pokémon isn't the real world and the creatures do not in fact react to the same pressures that trigger evolutionary reactions (in case you didn't realise, any of those magical elemental monsters utterly break every natural law of our universe). So yes lad, Torra's arms grow longer, because Game Freak ALWAYS provide hints in the middle stage of starters to go to the final form, since they dropped the "let's make the final evo a surprise" ethos. By time shit gets to the middle stage, they're working towards the final stage (the lines get worked on as a collective, where they're all designed in concert with each other, traits in one being applied to all three (Popplio, Brionne and Primarina all blowing/playing with bubbles). And 'Roar was going to stand up, meaning they had to indicate that eventuality. Sorry you seem to believe real world natural phenomena have any bearing on Pokémon, but that's because you're an autistic shitbag who still thinks you matter to anyone.
Best and IMO most realistic batch I have seen.
>>59004393I feel like this is Gecqua's best-case scenario. All the other possibilities just look rancid.>>59004856>>59005984I'll never understand the "it's bad because it just gets bigger" crowd. Pretty much all my favorite evolutions are just bigger versions of the base mon with minor tweaks.
>>59015070that's one of the ugliest one's in the thread and that's the best case scenario to you? lmao
this is how i want browt to look like fully evolved
>>59004980>the job doesn't completely overwhelm the base design, and thus its far superior to what they're doing at the top.Primarina is far less blatant about its "job" than the Sushi chef or Skeledirge with the fire microphone and suit. Inteleon is way less blatant about being a jobmon than Skeledirge, too.
>>59015373Fine; you explain to me why ANY of the dogshit in this thread is better.
>>59015060That's literally grass Blaziken...
>>59015776Heck yeah it is and its BASED.
All this complains about jobs and bipedal starters only for the Bipedal pokemon with a job to end up as the most popular one while the animalistic jobless starters end up forgotten and humiliated
>>59015783Skeledirge was the most popular gen 9 starter final form though in large part because he was the most animalistic.
>>59016085that was Meowscarada though
>>59016085Skeledirge was outcompeted hard by Meow.Also, Skeledirge is not "jobless" whatsoever
>>59016094>>59016108Sprigatito was the most popular starter but more people prefer skele as a final evo
>>59015060Megaman, Chinese mobile game, Neopet... people shit on jobmons they at least have identity. I kind of feel nothing looking at these
>>59016232Maybe was, but it's the opposite. In the end Fuecoco won over Sprigatito, but Meowscarada ended up winning as the most popular final evo.
>>59004341Somehow... Ballio returned
>>59016232>but more people prefer skele as a final evoWhile polls are not a perfect measure, Meowscarada has consistently beaten the croc and stayed among the most popular Gen 9 mons.
>>59004235>>59004241>>59004295>>59004303>>59004307>>59004313>>59004373>>59004400All kino>>59005119The cock would have been better.
Imagine looking an actual human being in the eye and telling them that this is a shit evolution line because "it just gets bigger" and it doesn't have some subversive unexpected gimmick and sociocultural reference tacked onto it.
>>59016705umm, heh, i thhiiinkk you might of missed one of the best ones.... heh. its okay ill just link you to it and put it under the kino list >>59015650
>>59012456>(they’re bitter that Tajiri abandoned them during Gen 2).Qrd?
>>59018131During GSs development there was friction between Tajiri and the rest Game Freak, nothing was getting done and it got to the point where Tajiri couldn't take it and left halfway during development so Masuda stepped took control of the project and basically had to direct game freak to remake the entire game all over.
>>59017428It’s shit because it’s overdesigned nugen edgy nonsense with 5 different conflicting themes going on.
>>59006771>Lel the only difference is that one official while the others arentand the sad part is that is literally all it takes for most people here to like or dislike a design.
>>59018381While this is true, many Pals are ripped straight from Pokemon, it's not a secret, you'd have to retarded to believe that is not the case, modeling faggots messed with the models on twitter, comparing them to Pokemon's models and made very elaborate posts showcasing how the thieving was extremely obvious due to how blatant of an asset theft it was due to polygon counts and modeling rigs.I think the Palworld vs Pokemon "debate" is one of the most retarded things out there, Palworld is a shitty ripoff of both Pokemon and other games like Ark that is so obviously a ripoff it's not even funny and the company behind it is known for a being a bunch of thieving bastards and scumbags funded directly by China. Gamefreak on the other hand is extremely lazy, incompetent and greedy. It's the most pathetic thing ever to hear faggots sucking off either side, either tendies or retarded contrarians doing so out of spite for Pokemon respectively. Why do "people" waste energy time with this retarded crap? Even a loser no-lifer like me is baffled by how moronically pathetic it is.
>>59004432I hate this less after realizing it's just Bayonetta
good thread>>59009492unironic totalitarian
>>59017428Based
>>59005802Doesnt look like a pokemon design you dumb nigger. Fuck artist, fuck music, fuck movies, fuck video games, fuck you.
>>59018588The model theft thing isn't true. If they ripped the models 1-for-1 Nintendo would have a home run copyright case and sue them into the center of the earth. Not that palworld is original or anything, they just made their own version of the models and frankensteined them together into knockoff pokemon for around half their dex. But that's sort of the point. It's not a secret they're trying to hide. They want you to look at a pal and thing "Ah yes, legally distinct eevee". The entire gimmick of the setting is a parody of pokemon, just placed over an ark survival gameplay loop. The joke wouldn't work if they were all a bunch of original creatures that looked nothing like pokemon. As for the debate on quality, it is better than pokemon. But that's more of a testament to how poorly pokemon is being managed. If an early access ark clone made by people who didn't even know how to use unreal engine outdoes the most profitable media franchise on earth, something is wrong.Also I'd be lying if I said it wasn't fun to rile up people with religious gamefreak brand loyalty.
>>59017428>it just gets bigger >Post a pokemon that goes from basic land shark to jet plane land shark
I'm gonna be honestFan designs are better than the official designs.Making everything a bipedal anthro is a mistake. It's clear corporate checkboxing.Fan designs are better at ACTUALLY breaking the mold while also evolving from a baseline design properly instead of doing something so different there is basically no connection at all.Shit like Remoraid evolving into Octillery is a garbage.
>>59009741>omg where is their wacky zany personalities and jobs!kill yourself
>>59018883>>omg where is their wacky zany personalities and jobs! Just because you don't have either of those doesn't mean others shouldn't
>>59018847Game freak is so uniquely shitty, that Pokémon fans (the single stupidest and assholish fandom to ever exist) have a better understanding of and more respect for the Pokémon than game freak does.
>>59009311>Primape, Kangaskhanthese are jobmons
Screencap this. I was told by someone who knew things before (told me gen VIII stuff beforehand and they were right) that the starters and others are Dragon Ball GT references, specifically the evil Dragons. Pombon stays Fire, Gecqua goes Water/Poison and Browt goes Grass/Electric. Does any of this make sense? I never really cared for DBGT, I only remember Omega Shenron because I played a lot of Budokai 3 back in the day.
Why there are so many Gecque Evo Concepts with the sole goal of removing the femininity?
>>59019101Incels are a thing too
>>59012431God Hoenn is so good.
>>59019101Retard and mentally ill artists who either hate femininity or are overly vocal prudes who have perverts live rent-free in their heads 24/7
>>59019101It's overcorrectionSomething like the OP is good, there's a feminine touch without it being the only trait. However there's about a 90% chance it ends up being a "THIS IS THE GIRL STARTER FOR GIRLS! IT IS A GIRL (despite being 87.5% male)! BOYS NOT ALLOWED!" situation again which is lame
>>59020125>Something like the OP is goodThe OP is just as bad about it as the others.
>>59020173It's still feminine in a milotic kind of way. Just not in a primarina kind of way.
I made Thais Monk Chow Chow
>>59004429>good future vs realistic future
90% of the bird evos in this thread are too generic, like maybe they'd pass as early route birdmons but not a starter, which are basically cereal mascots at this point. These artists need to get more weird with it
>>59020182>It's still feminine in a milotic kind of wayIt isn't. The face has no feminity and the lashes have outright removed that part.It is nowhere near Milotic either.
>>59020467true
Behold
>>59016325Ballio is dead along with his creator, let it go
