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IS IT GROWIN’ ON YAH??
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>>59007153
I'm honestly happy that Feraligatr has been turned into a lolcow. Meganium is the only Johto starter that has remained untarnished. Meganium won.
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>>59007153
>Shitmon turns into a toilet
Funny how fitting this is
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>>59007153
>mega design is so bad it damages the rest of the line
lol
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>>59007167
>typedo
>toiletgatr
someone def had Chikorita as a fav and was pissed about all the memes making fun of it
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>>59007153
>Me when the Mega is a creative concept instead of just bigger and angrier
Skibidi dop dop dop yes yes
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>>59007193
Concept so good it soured people on the regular evolution line and caused Gamefreak to shill the bigger and “but more” one instead.
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>>59007167
Feraligayturd was never good in the first place. People are just now dumping nostalgia and realizing how shit it actually is. Meganium did nothing wrong.
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>>59007153
I still picked Feraligatr because I like him, his movepool and don't need to use his mega. Compared to Hisui Typhlosion where the design is fine but fuck that typing so much. Just giving him way more weaknesses for a Pokemon that already struggles to stay alive.
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No
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>>59008350
>losing to fucking DRUDDIGON of all mons
Lmao what a jobber
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>>59008350
Fucking based
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>>59007236
>Feraligayturd was never good in the first place.
it was good before the palette swap in gen 3 ruined its colors
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>>59008402
That happened in Crystal
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>>59008461
No but tumors are growing me from the data center pollution runoff this AI slop caused
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>>59008275
> but fuck that typing so much. Just giving him way more weaknesses for a Pokemon that already struggles to stay alive.
I assume you’re taking about in game; I’ve been hearing conflicting things about this. most people found the ghost type it helpful for since most enemy mons spammed normal moves and the extra weakness werent much of an issue due to being fast enough to hit first and second the extra stab being more than worth it. But at the same time I’be complaints similar to yours that the extra weaknesses make it hard to use.
I didn’t play any legend game so I can’t really add much input
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>>59008350
Feralisissies...
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>>59008350
Oh no no no no no
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>>59007153
This
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>>59007153
Unironically. As long as they keep the helmet down
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>>59007153
I don’t know if I still hate it, but it is at the very bottom of my Mega tier list.
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>>59007153
I never liked Ferralifatr or Starmie but now with both of their megas they are on my top 10 pokemons
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>>59007153
It's still as dogshit as the day I saw it.
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>>59007153
I always kept Totodile unevolved in Silver, so I don't care about them ruining Feraligatr since he was always ugly.
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>>59007153
Should have brought back the designer who adds spikes
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>>59007193
Jar Jar Binks was also a very creative design for a Sith Lord and wasn’t just an angry spiky guy.
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>>59007236
Fuck off
He's still the greatest Johto starter
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>>59010297
That would be Meganium
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>>59010297
Nah
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>>59007167
She did, you are correct.
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>>59007167
meganiumfags are delusional
your starter has bulbasaur syndrome but ten times worse
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>>59007167
>Meganium won
Yes yes you're doing great, little buddy. Let's change your diapers.
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>>59007153
>create a mega design that’s effectively a form of nostalgia pandering
>it backfires because it’s been years since the first form was merch-worthy and the final form is well-liked
>reception is so bad the formerly lesser liked starter gets shilled instead
Is there a more complete humiliation ritual?
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>>59008470
Skill issue
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>>59007153
>letting an optional, one-time gimmick form dictate whether they still love a Pokémon or not
What a fucking faggot
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>>59007167
Meganium has had the worst starter ever award for decades. The whole trio is a travesty.
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>>59008350
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>59008350
based cave dragon i kneel
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>>59011604
I still love the line despite it being one long humiliation ritual. But goddamn does Mega Feraligatr suck ass.
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>>59008350
OHNONONONONO GAYTURDS???? WHAT IS THIS????
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>>59010539
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>>59008350
Humiliation ritual
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>>59010539
>>59012125
The Meganium hate is a forced circlejerk at this point.
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>>59012811
Because Meganium hate was centered around people wanting it to be useful rather than useless. It typically wasn’t centered around the design being bad or anything like that.
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>>59012830
Yeah, it's not an immense downgrade like Mega Feraligatr, it's just insanely mediocre in basically every way. Doesn't even have the extremely mild interest of Mega Emboar that might improve some people's opinion on it or make them think worse of it instead.
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>>59008350
DRUDDIGOD-SAMA HAVE MERCY
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>>59007153
Someone HAD to suck someone's dick to get this design put into the game. There is no way it was genuinely approved.
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>>59013947
Nah, gamefreak being retarded is par for the course
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>>59008350
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>59008350
KWAB
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>>59013902
Even with the mouth closed it still looks retarded. All they had to do was make a cool dragon looking guy like sceptile's mega. What were they thinking with this trash.
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>>59013981
Because the Totodile motif is deformed. The head is too big for what it’s meant to mimic, so it looks off. It’s worth noting that the base functionality of this thing doesn’t even work without the oversized skull. Why didn’t anyone say “maybe this is a bad idea” with how awkward it looked? Professionals my ass. Focus testing my goddamn ass.
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Bring back IP counter
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>>59007153
crazy how these megas just came and went. i was really excited about one of them but no one even gave a shit and now its forgotten.
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>>59014447
the ZA starters are supposed to be the mascots of ZA. They’re by far the most important megas to get right, but 2 of the are nothing burgers and the one for the starter normies flocked too turned out to be a humilation rituals. And the Kalos starters couldn’t even save them this shitshow because Greedy Freak locked them behind the battle thing.

I love how this validates all the people who were smart enough to realize having 2 starters from the same region retarded as fuck. They could have just used the Kalos starter since it’s still modern day
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>>59007153
No, I dont understand how looking like a giant baby Pokemon helps Feraligatr. Also the thin skin flap the reg jaws hands on looks looks and like it could be ripped off at any moment. Could have had something really cool with this.
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>>59014447
There are some I like but I think Malamar, Froslass, and Staraptor were the best. The latter two I would've preferred for a proper Sinnoh remake instead of legends slop.
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>>59014447
It's hard to care about a temporary form desu
In Gen 6 megas had the novelty of being the first gimmick like this, and them continuing into ORAS gave then an air of "this is going to keep happening woah I wonder what mons are next"
Nowadays it's just like. Oh, okay, this mon got a mega that I will see once in a blue moon. Cool I guess. Would have rathered a regional or proper evo.
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>>59007236
I always liked Feraligatr and the fact that its mega sucks doesn't make me dislike the base form.
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>>59016095
They’ll be more relevant in champions I think.
>>59016102
desu me liking Feraligatr makes me hate the mega more. How disappointing
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>>59010273
Jar Jar Binks was not creative and didn't chomp down on things with its arms as the lower jaw and look like a big totodile, he just farted and stuff
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>>59016102
I honestly think one of the biggest problems is just having them all be mono-typed. Giving Fera fighting or dark could've gone a long way in giving him some more personality and in-game utility, same with the other two Johto starters.
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>>59016723
>is just having them all be mono-typed
>Mega Meganium - Grass/Fairy
>Mega Feraligatr - Water/Dragon
>Mega Emboar - Fire/Fighting
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>>59016734
I was referring to the original gen 2 designs, not the recent spin offs.
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>>59016234
>It's creative when I LIKE IT!!!
ok lmao
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>>59016956
>It's creative when I LIKE IT!!!
Yes
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>>59014447
Goofy "creative" designs and shitty stat distributions for most of the new Megas made them forgettable. It's much harder to sell a Mega when it has Mega Victreebel's design and stat spread.
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>>59016987
It’s much harder to sell Mega Victreebel because nobody gives a fuck about base Victreebel.
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>>59017118
Funny, since no one cared about Kangaskhan, Mawile, Medicham, Beedrill, Pinsir, Gardevoir (besides porn), and Lopunny (also besides porn) until they got Mega Evolutions with actual viability and looking cool.
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chadnivm WVN
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It's hard to feel bad about it when Inteleon still exists and set the bar for water starters so low
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>>59007153
Plus-sized female anthro Pokemon waifs using a male Mega Feraligatr as a toilet after his dorsal fin ends up as a toilet seat for some reason.
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>>59017210
>Gardevoir, Mawile, Lopunny
Popular because cute
>the rest
true
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>>59007153
>favorite Johto mon
Some people wear their arrested development with way too much pride.
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>>59017415
That’s why I included the “Excluding porn”, anon
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>>59017517
Believe it or not, people can like cute things without jerking off to it. And Japan surely does because they’re all youth-obsessed morons.
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>>59010539
Lol
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>>59007153
What were people expecting from a gator mega?
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>>59008350
>bort fanfiction
lmao, no bortmon has ever had a chance except the Sinnoh-coded genies

>>59012125
This is extremely cute
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>>59007153
>Feraligatr is a jobmon
Lol
Lmao
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>>59011675
Snivy is even worse in-game thoughbeit
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>>59007153
Yeah. I even prefer the toilet seat up since it makes Feraligatr look more like Baxcalibur or Druddigon over Totodile.
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>>59019168
I don’t think Toilet Weaker than a its own baby is a job
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>>59019754
Mega gatr is so awkward in group shots because of how much space the red fin takes.
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>>59018950
>This is extremely cute
admittedly, I agree. It's so dumb looking it loops back to being kind of cute.
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>>59019754
I haven't seen Meganium's mega until now, the flowers kinda look like extra chins.
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>>59019754
These Megas are so lackluster or in Mega Feraligatr's case complete shit
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>>59020071
I can’t believe they’re actually doubling down on it. Unbelievable.
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>>59007236
>Feraligayturd was never good in the first place
Neither was this nickname, you toddlerbrain
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>>59010539
I made a stinky, mommy!
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>>59012125
AI slop

>>59013242
This. I don’t give a fuck
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>>59020970
nta but it is actually pretty funny.
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>>59019754
They care so little about the mega design that it’s always in the most unflattering portrayal possible lmao
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>>59021075
Okay, time for your diaper change
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>>59017676
>Post count for lopunny: 2164
>Post count for lopunny rating:g: 569
>Post count for lopunny rating:s: 684
>Post count for lopunny rating:q: 339
>Post count for lopunny rating:e: 572
>Post count for gardevoir: 16120
>Post count for gardevoir rating:g: 9770
>Post count for gardevoir rating:s: 2932
>Post count for gardevoir rating:q: 1148
>Post count for gardevoir rating:e: 2270
For reference
>Post count for pikachu: 15766
>Post count for pikachu rating:g: 11238
>Post count for pikachu rating:s: 3831
>Post count for pikachu rating:q: 370
>Post count for pikachu rating:e: 327
Lopunny has a higher percentage of what is considered “not safe” than Pikachu has as completely safe art. Gardevoir is better at being more than half safe, but still pales in comparison to Pikachu
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>>59019754
>Emboar is the cool one for boys
>Megainum is the pretty one for girls
>Feraligatr is the goofy one for hipsters
What did Gamefreak mean by this?
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>>59021244
They meant to demonstrate that their artists and marketing team have moments of complete and utter retardation
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>>59007236
TRVTH NVKE
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>>59021244
are any of these cards good? those are some big numbers but that's just how cards seem to be these days.
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>>59021640
Last I asked, Emboar is shit, Feraligatr is potentially good, Meganium is actually good
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>>59014447
I was looking forward to them, but they're just kinda okay. The gen 6 batch had some duds but also some I really liked. The ZA megas just make me go "I guess" besides standout shit ones like pyroar or the OP.
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>>59022269
I hate that so many ZA megas tried to force this whole megas look like their pre evolutions or take parts from their pre evolutions idea. It was never a common thing with the megas in XY/ORAS and when it did happen it was never super obvious like it is with Feraligatr, Dragonite, Chimecho, etc.
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>>59022907
It’s not that common in the new batch either. Glimmora, Raichu, Feraligatr, Eelektross, Chimecho, Dragonite were the ones who got that kind of thing. The rest didn’t. I think the bigger problem is that mega evolution implies a continuation of the evolution line rather than a regression, so why bring back old traits?
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>>59018495
LMAO
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>>59019754
These should've been the official arts instead.
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>>59008350
NOT SO FAST
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>>59021767
>Meganium is actually good
A Pokemon based on a dinosaur that's not being subjected to a humiliation ritual is too hard to believe know8ng the absolute state of this franchise.
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>>59023029
Creatures makes the TCG, not Game Freak. Game Freak is full of lazy israel-loving pedophiles who hate making pokemon and only care about their coddled shillmons, Creatures (and most of the spinoff makers) value all Pokemon and will try and give everyone a chance after the mandatory shillmons required by Game Freak.
name a pokemon that was done wrong by Game Freak and its almost guaranteed they've been allowed some relevance, viability, or basic dignity in a non-Game Freak game.
The franchise would be in an infinitely better place if Game Freak was kicked out of TPC.
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>>59023029
You can ask the TCG generals if you want, they always seemed to be pretty chill to me
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>>59023238
>not by game freak
This explains everything.
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can the z-a shit not be canon?
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>>59008350
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>>59008350
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Why did they use 2 of the gen 2 starters?
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>>59024908
Because they’re retards
Simple as
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>>59008350
HOLY
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>>59008350
I fucking kneel...
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>>59007153
it's growing on me like a tumor
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>>59008350
I dont know why druddigon is treated like a joke so often, Its really not that bad.
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>>59008350
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>>59011604
Look not everyone can be a GarCHAD or a ScizGOD who stayed competitively relevant even alongside their new forms. Feraligaytards have been begging for scraps since gen 4, and THIS is what they finally get.
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>>59007184
This is honestly what hurts the most. It’s Rhyperior all over again
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>>59008350
BASED

>>59026538
It’s not bad in a void but the Dragon type is oversaturated with 600+ BST stat sticks that make just about any non (pseudo)legendary Dragon look bad.
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>>59017478
The hell else they gonna do?
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>>59007153
Lol you guys are all laughing

You all watch Mega Feraligatr getting the last laugh in Champions.

Because the Kalos Mega pretty much got their hidden abilities leaked and they’re all the same (Bulletproof, Levitate and Protean), that means ZA Starters Mega will have the same as well (Leaf Guard, Reckless and Sheer Force).
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>>59021275
>moments
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>>59027673
Sheer force is a great ability but does mega Feraligator outdamage a LO Gator? I can’t imagine it’s worth the mega slot.
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>>59027673
>It with Sheer Force

Oh shit…
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>>59027673
>sheer force
Remember that Mega Feraligatr can't hold a Life Orb.
>leaf guard
For fucks sake.
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>>59027673
Delphox had Magician before
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>>59027673
Wow, base Delphox has Levitate? That’s news to me. Also Sheer Force MegaGatr isn’t particularly impressive.
>>59027694
Slightly, but it’s not very good regardless. Unless they give it crazy special snowflake moves, it’s going to be just as unused as before in doubles.
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>>59027673
Blaziken, Chesnaught, and Greninja are the only Mega starters confirmed to use their hidden ability for their Megas.
Sheer Force certainly isn’t out of the question, but it is also certainly not guaranteed either. Strong Jaws or Dragon’s Maw is likely too and probably moreso since Mega Feraligatr focuses mostly on the whole biting thing.
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>>59030705
And it would still be shit with Dragon’s Maw.
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>>59030782
Yeah.
A big problem with Mega Feraligatr is unironically that it focuses too much on Atk.
+55 Atk would be great if it wasn’t for the fact that base Feraligatr gets Sheer Force. Even if Mega Feraligatr gets Sheer Force and it’ll do slightly more damage than SF + Life Orb, that’s kind of the problem.
Why would you give up a Mega slot for Mega Feraligatr when a Feraligatr with Life Orb does nearly the same amount of damage? Sure it is slightly bulkier and gets a Dragon secondary typing, it really isn’t enough to justify using it all that much.
It’d really need something busted to work and I doubt they’ll give Feraligatr Fishious Rend + Strong Jaws.
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>>59030988
Unironically they fucked up with its stat spread. If it had more speed it would’ve seemed better.
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>>59008350
My FUARKIN hero DruddiGAWD
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Let's say that hypothetically Mega Meganium is better in competitive than Mega Feraligatr.
How much of a gamer meltdown would this cause?
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>>59031178
Why would it create a meltdown? People have been saying the thing’s mid since the leaks. You’ll see some of the defenders seethe at most
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>>59030782
>humiliation ritual design
>shaping up to be shit competitively too
No other starter mega fucked up this badly. FFS most megas period don't fuck up like that. It had to be on purpose to kneecap its popularity for some reason
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>>59030012
>Ai Slop
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>>59008461
Its so bad KEK
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>>59008350
KINOOOOOOO
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>>59031186
>People have been saying the thing’s mid since the leaks
Mega Feraligatr or Mega Meganium?
Also I asked because of how hated Meganium was/is.
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>>59007153
God this thing is such a fucking failure of a design, it's sad
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>>59007236
>was never good in the first place
He's my favourite HM slave in HGSS
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>>59032671
Wait, my ability to read is shit. Anyway the answer is the same, both are mid
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>>59008350
DRUDDITOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS!!!
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Whoever designed that abomination and whoever approved it need to be lynched, limbs severed, eyes gouged out, tongue cut off, impaled and left to live for all eternity in endless agony



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