im playing white 2 for the first time, why are the wild pokemon im seeing over 10 levels below the level curve? the gym is level 37. why does everyone make such a huge deal of johtos level curve but not this when this is worse?
>>59015119level curve has to do with gyms/bosses, not wild encounters. They made wild encounters lower level because they expected you to do stuff like audino grinding.
>>59015140>level curve has to do with gyms/bosses, not wild encountersthe biggest complaint people always have about level curves is that wild encounters being far below it A) makes grinding slower and B) makes them harder to add to your team
>>59015140That makes the johto level curve complaints make even less sense because the gyms progress fine with the sole exception being Pryce being slightly under leveled
>>59015146The level curve meme comes from lazy streamers anon, the retard who complains about "muh HGSS level curve" is the same who actively cheats in infinite rare candies.
>>59015140>bort's game gets criticised>immediately starts writing fanfiction to justify itfucking kek, like clockwork
>>59015192>thread is koyawnie still malding from being roflstomped yesterdayFuck off Kojo, stop ban evading. Go back>>>/r/eddit
>>59015140>>59015166this, its about how wild mons scale relative to the story, not from one gym to the next
>>59015192I didn't justify it, I explained it. I personally don't like wild mons being so low level. Also see >>59015182
>>59015197i dont know who that is
>>59015119>10 levels below the level curve>trainers in this same area have mons in their low 30s so wild mons are just 3-5 levels below trainer monsWhy must you always be a dishonest bitch Kojo?
>>59015210this is the next main story fight immediately after leaving chargestone cave
>>59015119you can find klinks at level 31 on the lower floors.
>>59015245And this is the floor you're in.
>>59015245This is the next floor btw, do you notice a steady increase in levels? Almost like a very nice level curve! Stop being a disingenuous faggot Kojo.
>>59015140Bullshit, gym leaders are supposed to be higher level then you. Only unskilled retards need to grind in a pokemon game.
>>59015245And the cherry on top is that you're using "hard mode" levels for gym leaders which are fake level ups as the only stat increases come from increased IVs/EVs and the level in the damage formula due to GF being incompetent as fuck
>>59015262yeah the problem is that gym leaders don't increase in levels much, not that they're too high or something. Was a problem in hgss primarily as many people point out.
>>59015269i think the dogshit rematch system does more damage than the levels. which is why the level curve isn't a problem in GSC, since you have rematches right from the start.
>>59015268those are the normal mode levels. the levels on the left of the slash are easy mode; the ones on the right are normal. hard mode is on a separate table. this is pretty clearly shown by the title included in the picture: "easy mode/normal mode", but i guess basic reasing comprehension is a bit much to expect from a bort. ironic, given how much shitty dialogue your games have
>>59015268>which are fake level ups as the only stat increases come from increased IVs/EVs and the level in the damage formula due to GF being incompetent as fuckwasn't this debunked?
>>59015119Gen 5 is when the experience gain was altered so that lower-leveled Pokemon get more of it.
>>59015282No, what was debunked was that they did literally nothing, the only fight where they do nothing is the Iris fight because she already has 31 IVs mons or something like that. But the level ups are fucked up because GF are shit at programming, I sincerely have no clue how they managed to fuck this up
the problem with gen 5's levels is that the game's already almost over by the time like half of the pokemon evolve, in some cases it's even worse. ghetsis's strongest pokemon is level 54, and a number of mons evolve in the late 40s to late 50s, in one case even in the 60si would in fact argue this is worse than hgss's levels on account of the fact that it's extremely fucking unsatisfying, hgss is just easier than usual for a couple gyms and even then pokemon games are so easy to begin with that competent players won't notice, i sure didn't until it was pointed out
When did yawnie suddenly start liking HGSS?
>>59015351He doesn't it was just a stealth shit on gen V thread. Kojo is always behaving like a disingenuous fag, at this point just report his shit for inciting flamewars and laugh at him when he's crying because he got banned.
>>59015140I don't believe you're supposed to grind.
>>59015140me when i lie
>>59015119>>59015140>>59015146This complaint has always, ALWAYS been retarded because this is literally the case in every Pokemon game.>KantoWild Pokemon cap is 46Blue's ace is 65>JohtoWild Pokemon cap is 36Lance's ace is 50>HoennWild Pokemon cap is 44Steven's ace is 58>SinnohWild Pokemon cap is 46Cynthia's ace is 66>UnovaWild Pokemon cap is 42Ghetsis's ace is 54
>>59015351>>59015365>muh ecelebYou guys are such fags.
>>59015652>yawnie bumping the thread because everyone is ignoring her shitty baitGrim. Why don't you finish your (autistic) spectrum fangame instead of shitposting, Kojo?
OP here. i have no idea who kojo or yawnie are. its a bit weird you guys jump to shouting at boogeymen at the first sign of unova criticism
>>59015119Did you know that this game specifically has both an adjusted Exp system that levels up underleveled mons faster(and slows down overleveling), and dedicated high exp mons to grind on?White 2 has very little of a level curve issue because it has systems that work to fix it.Unlike certain other games.
>>59015679Sure you aren't, are you gonna complain about berry farming next? Totally-not-kojo-yawnie
>>59016120no, i dont normally bother with berries. the only time i did was when i wanted to reset the evs on my ribbon masters from xd in gen 3 so i could ev train them properly
This whole thread is just another reason party wide exp share is good btw>NOOOO YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO USE THE WILD SHITMON YOU JUST CAUGHT THAT’S 10 LEVELS BELOW THE GYM LEADER INSTEAD OF YOUR LEAD POKEMON THAT CAN ALREADY SWEEP THE GYM
>>59015680>White 2 has very little of a level curve issue because it has systems that work to fix it.>Unlike certain other games.Even HGSS have trainer rematches, and some of them give really good items. Not quite as streamlined as exp scaling + Audino, or maybe even Vs. Seeker from FRLG/DPP, but it's there.
>>59015119and you want to complain about a game dated years ago, that they won't update?
>>59015644>Wild Pokemon cap is 3640 in HGSS iirc
