Now that the games are on the Switch, what do you think about the unused content of FRLG? There are 5 points that I want to talk about:>7 unused routes on the Sevii Islands (4 routes around Four Island, and 3 south of Seven Island).Were these routes really scrapped, or was their content repurposed and used elsewhere on the Sevii Islands? >3 unused house interiors, one of which is located on the same place where Pikachu's Beach House minigame used to be in Pokemon Yellow.Does this suggest they wanted to bring the Surfing Pikachu minigame in FRLG?>There is one "Pokemon healed" chiptune-like rearranged jingle in the files of FRLG, that could suggest they wanted FRLG to have a GB Sounds kind of item.Do you think GB Sounds was planned for FRLG?>The Celadon Hotel and the Celadon Restaurant both have duplicate maps, for some unknown reason.Why could this be?>There is A LOT of water programmed around the Trainer Tower on Seven Island.Does it mean there was originally going to be a bigger area there?What do you guys think?Here is the source: https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_FireRed_and_LeafGreen/Unused_Maps
>>59017912All I know is that surfing Pikachu would have been amazingly fun in gen 3.
>>59017921Yeah, color wise and graphics wise it would have looked beautiful. But I don't think it really fits a game where Pikachu is not the starter.
>>59017912>Do you think GB Sounds was planned for FRLG?That would have been great. I can't stand the FRLG arrangements, the instrumentation and key differences completely change the atmosphere of nearly every single track.That said, if it's just one jingle, I doubt they would have done it for the whole OST.>>59018104I wouldn't have minded more Yellow content. I never liked how besides HGSS, the remakes pretend the expansions never existed.
>>59018104It would be weird if FRLG randomly plugged Lugia and just Lugia, or just Entei or something like that. But Pikachu gets a free pass for whatever because it's Pikachu.
>>59017912>Were these routes really scrapped, or was their content repurposed and used elsewhere on the Sevii Islands?I think most of the content was repurposed and used. Icefall Cave for example, was meant to be on one of these routes, but it ended up being right behind the town of Four Island, which I personally think looks much better aesthetically in the final version.>Does this suggest they wanted to bring the Surfing Pikachu minigame in FRLG?It's possible, but I think it's more likely that these 3 houses were Move Tutor houses or something like that, and they were later moved somewhere else on the map.>Do you think GB Sounds was planned for FRLG?It's possible, because why else would they make a chiptune rearrangement of that jingle? But, on the other hand, why only one jingle and no full themes? I'm just speculating, but maybe they didn't like how it sounded on the GBA sound font, so they scrapped the feature completely and waited for the DS to use that feature.>Why could this be?It's probably nothing.>Does it mean there was originally going to be a bigger area there?I'd say most likely not. I don't know why all that water is in the game, but it looks like nothing major.
>>59018118>That said, if it's just one jingle, I doubt they would have done it for the whole OST.Yeah, I guess you're right. The "Pokemon healed" jingle is too short to properly judge whether it's worth doing the entire soundtrack in chiptune. But in that case, why did they do that jingle? Maybe they were just experimenting?
>>59018155>I'm just speculating, but maybe they didn't like how it sounded on the GBA sound font, so they scrapped the feature completely and waited for the DS to use that feature.Doesn't the GBA have GBC hardware on it, including audio? I'm not a dev, but if I'm not mistaken GBA games can tap into that. I know there's a romhack Called Pokémon Throwback that adds the GB Sounds to FRLG.
>>59018122>Pikachu gets a free pass for whatever because it's Pikachu.You're right, but I still think they wanted to focus on the starters, and not Pikachu, for FRLG.
Maybe the ?????????? placeholder pokemon was going to be a new Eevee evo or a Kangaskhan evo, did you ever think of that? Huh?! Maybe it was going to be Mewthree. I bet that's what the unused locations were for, catching Mewthree. It's obvious if you just think.
>>59018118>I wouldn't have minded more Yellow content. I never liked how besides HGSS, the remakes pretend the expansions never existed.I think Yellow as well as the Let's Go games, are special games because they tap into anime territory, which makes their content less likely to be considered in remakes.
>>59018170>Maybe they were just experimenting?I'm inclined to think so, like how RS had arrangements of some Johto themes. Less likely but it may also be a scrapped easter egg, like with diamond dust in gen 4 and the alternate Pokémon Center themes in gen 6
>>59018203>like how RS had arrangements of some Johto themes.I didn't even know RS had arrangements of some Johto themes. That's cool and it makes more sense to me now.
>>59018181this is also why we're never getting another Let's Go game.they're not going to go back and make a version of Gen II that pays homage to nearly 30 year old series of anime. Yellow was topical, and Legpee was a remake of that.
>>59018228You're right yes. Kanto is just special and gets special treatment.Also, even on the game itself, it says "special Pikachu edition". Because it's kinda separate from the RGB games. Like an alternate universe. And besides, Blue is the actual third version of Gen 1. Not Yellow, as many people believe
>>59017912>>7 unused routes on the Sevii Islands (4 routes around Four Island, and 3 south of Seven Island).>Were these routes really scrapped, or was their content repurposed and used elsewhere on the Sevii Islands?I think it should be mentioned that the 3 routes south of Seven Island were scrapped early during development. They probably just decided they're pointless, when you can just surf in a straight line on the Tanoby Ruins, instead of doing a loop.As for the 4 routes around Four Island, these were scrapped later during development. But their content was condensed, rather than scrapped. The Pokemon Daycare and Icefall Cave were both located on 2 of these scrapped routes, for instance. In the final game, they decided to make the town of Four Island much bigger, at the expense of cutting these routes.So yeah. At first, when you hear that 7 routes were cut, it sounds like a lot. But in reality, it wasn't a lot, because the scrapped routes were mostly just short water routes. Nothing interesting. Which is likely why they were scrapped.
>>59018307>the scrapped routes were mostly just short water routesHoenn DOES have too much water in my opinion, so I'm glad that's not the case with the Sevii Islands, actually.
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>>59017912I always think about the unused Sevii Islands and what their purposes are when it comes to their legacy and lasting impact.I think it would have been awesome if they did a fishing-centric minigame or safari zone analog that would have been at the locations that were south of the Unown ruins. Just basically an island where you'd get on a boat, then the fishing minigame is basically just you using a super rod or something to catch rare water type Pokemon, maybe even some Hoenn fish because at that point you're far enough away from a region where there'd be slim ecosystem diversity, and maybe even something where they're measured and rated like the Catching Contest in Johto.Four Island extension would have been interesting to have its own Safari Zone as well, but with this one it would have been cool to have something like the Johto Safari Zone where it granted 1 guaranteed perfect IV. Or maybe something else altogether, like someone that would tell you the eggs moves of a certain Pokemon so that that information wasn't pure guide bait. Or maybe they could have even introduced contests into the games again, but maybe they were nervous to include them on account of berries being tedious to get in FireRed/LeafGreen. Either way what we got was near perfect already, I just went they went the whole distance and put in more Pokemon not available in Kanto, even if they had to dip into the Hoenn Pokemon a bit. They probably wouldn't have had to even make up the mushroom fanatic if they took that approach to having Luvdisc catchable in the games again.
>>59020605I like your ideas but I also like what Game Freak did with the Sevii Islands as a whole.I think Contests were a big no because of how the berry system works in FRLG. But they could have included Secret Bases in FRLG if they wanted to, on the Sevii Islands.I don't know why they were against that idea.
I really wished the Switch releases were just the original but huge updates.Why can't Game Freak and Square-Enix take Bethesda's principal like how they saved Quake II?
