What's the gimmick for WiWa?
>WiWa
>>59019559Omega beams that one-shot the opponent
>>59019564Are you the same WWfag?
>>59019559
>>59019564>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU HAVE TO USE MY ACRONYM! MINE!Petty.
>>59019572>guys remember when pikachu was fat>guys guys guys kanto remember kanto
>>59019569>>59019572What. Thats not a gimmick theyre just fucking around with the physics
>>59019571WW is a shit acronym
>>59019584You mean Doubleyoudoubleyou
>>59019593This is why it's a shit acronym. You don't see people calling Sword and Shield "SS" do you?
>>59019610I did but every retard would go "uhh...soul silver?" so I had to put on the baby gloves for themThere's nothing to to confuse WW with, and like a lot of shorthands you're not pronouncing the full fuckin letter you're pronouncing a shorthand for the name (which is shorter than wiwa in my case)
>>59019584>dude the acronym needs to le quirky and epic xdThe only thing that matters about an acronym is how short and understandable it is. There is nothing wrong with WW.
>>59019635Silence, wwfag
>>59019635Say it out loud.
>>59019629wind waker???
>>59019640Who reads everything out loud? Your brain can't process letters?
>ReBlGrYe>GoSiCr>RuSaEm>DiPePl>Bl2Wh2>OmRuAlSa>UlSuUlMo>LeGoPiEe>PoLeAr>PoLeZ-A
>>59019635There's already a game with WW as its acronym and it came out more than 20 years ago: Wind Waker. Granted, that's older than most of the users here so of course they don't remember it.
It's going to be a fusion of mega/z move, like was always planned. You have a mode change (not everyone gets a new form) that grants access to a strong move that charges up under various conditions, then you use that move and get rid of the mode.
>>59019655Wind Waker isn't a Pokemon game, it's also retarded to think that one game owns an acronym.
Imagine forcing yourself to say double u double u instead of just saying wawi or wiwa. Anyway it's probably the weather shit they talked about.
>>59019653It's called internal monologue. 50-70% of the population lacks it. Coincidentally, 50-70% is also the range of people with low to average intelligence.
>>590196501. Not a pokemon game, irrelevant, the same way you could refer to Animal Crossing, Assassin's Creed, Assetto Corsa, Ace Combat, Astral Chain, and Armored Core with simple abbreviations within their respective contexts and no one would be confused2. Wind Waker has the same fucking WiWa abbreviation
>>59019665My internal monologue just pronounces WW the way you'd pronounce the W in Winds/Waves. Not literally double u just the sound a W makes. Maybe you're just slow
>>59019559Weather Moves -Tenkou Waza.
>>59019655good thing WiWa could never be mistaken as referring to Wind Waker
>>59019654Arr Bee Gee WhyGee Ess ArrArr Ess EmEff Arr Ell GeeDee Pee PeeBee DubsBee Dubs 2Ecks WhyOrisSumoOosumEll Gee Pee EeeSwishBee Dee Ess PeePee Ell AyyEss VeePlazaDoubleyou doubleyou
>>59019677So Wiwa then.
>>59019704*Arr Ess Eee
>>59019709No, since you don't get to the i or a part. It's just the vague w sound. Which can be skimmed over to continue reading quicker.
>>59019716wuh wuh
>>59019564WaWi then
>>59019655Why would you use an acronym to refer to Wind Waker on the fucking Pokemon board at all? Let's say it's five years ago and some retarded faggot is saying "SV is gonna be better than WW!" with no further context.You can assume that 'SV' is referring to Scarlet and Violet, the upcoming Pokemon games, but very few people's first thought for what 'WW' means would think 'Wind Waker'.And, even in the few cases where it is, they would naturally second guess themselves, wondering why the fuck this stupid cocksucker would be comparing a Pokemon game to Wind Waker out of nowhere, and only referring to it as an acronym to boot.TLDR; you're a combative retard coming up with whatever excuses you can to argue with people about random bullshit, in this case, the fucking acronym they use for the new Pokemon game.
>>59019772Yes, the WW fags are highly combative and seethe whenever someone uses WiWa, which is why it's so fun to use it.
>>59019728>When we find dat metea, we'll find docta WaWi
>>59019584>>59019640If you pronounce it "dub-dub" it's fine imo
>>59019772I'm not Japanese. YOU'RE not Japanese. You will never be Japanese. It is funny however that Japan recognizes this game is going to be garbage like the rest of the Switch era. Pretty garbage, but garbage nonetheless.
>>59019704No? Most game titles are one vowel long, you'd never pronounce it as the acronym
>>59019801All of this because a greedy company decided that one game needed to be split into two games for no reason other than making more money
>>59019807The original purpose was to promote it as a social game to trade and play with your friendsEver since the GTS it isn't had much of a point though. Although I guess the newer games don't have a GTS anyway unless you pay for Home. Lmao
>>59019559Super Abilities.>After activating, the user’s ability will be enhanced in some way>Each ability gets hand crafted boosts so better abilities get less of a boost than shittier abilities, and so clone abilities can have different effects>ie. Toxic Boost goes from x1.5 boost to x2 boost, while Guts would only negate the drawbacks of each status>Cloud Nine would clear the opponent’s stats like Haze but only for the opponent, while Air Lock would reduce the damage from Rock, Electric, and Ice movesThoughts?
>>59019814*taps the sign*
>>59019704>Gee Ess ArrGSR?
>>59019825Rrystal
>>59019822Is this supposed to imply it would be better to leave it to RNG?No nigga that would suck shitJust combine them at this point it would be nice to just have all the pokemon available in one save. They used to more or less do this with third versions but those don't exist anymore
You guys couldn't make SS catch on for Sword and Shield (SwSh), what makes you think you'll succeed with WW for Wind and Waves (WiWa)?
>>59019577NOOOOOO ITS MAJIN, MAJIIIIIIN BUUUUUUUU
>>59019827Liko's great-great-grandma?
>>59019835Because we went back to normal with SV? SWSH was only accepted because of SS's overlap with SoulSilver
>>59019835We not gonna do WIWA you fucking dumb retard.
>>59019559wind waker?>>59019568are you the same wiwajeet who has been pushing for the visajeet sounding acronym since the past month and who lost the poll despite the obvious discordjeet botting?>>59019584>>59019593not a single white person processes "ww" as "double you double you", wiwajeet>>59019650this is pokemon board, wiwajeet
>>59019564WIWA WIWA WIWA!
>>59019655pokemon board, shitskin visajeetonly ~30 posts using "wiwa" since the last month while we've been using ww since the game leaked months agoyou also lost the polltake your streetshitting to /v/curse nigger faggot vishnu
>>59019782that's funny because wiwajeets have been spamming "wind waker" every opportunity they can at the sight of ww because they are shitskins with low impulse controlexplains the gang rape problem in their shithole
>>59019835we also don't call sm "sumo" or sv "scavio" unlike your tranny pokepedotuber buddiesfunny how that works huh
WindWave
>>59019834>leave it to RNG?Not at all. It basically means every person would have their own encounters and would need to trade for different Pokemon, eliminating version exclusives. This last gen got really egregious by having version-exclusive event legendaries, and it'll only get worse as the years go on.>They used to more or less do this with third versionsNo they didn't. Every third version intentionally left out a pokemon or two just to punish those who didn't pick up a prior game as well.
>>59019655>>59019835Wind Waker is not a pokemon game, Soul Silver (SS) is, that is why we use SwSh. hope this helps OP
>>59019846Take a drink every time this guy says "jeet"We get it man. You hate Indians. Everyone does.
>>59019564You know they only write WiWa so you'll post these reactions, right
>>59019886Stupid people are easily baited.
do visajeets really think wiwa sounds funny because it rhymes with visa?
>>59019816Too complicated for modern audiences imo, even though personally I don't think it's necessarily a bad gimmick.Ever since megas we've been moving away from per-pokemon gimmicks to generalized anyone-can-use gimmicks, and they're really simple (on the surface) stuff like "make move flashier", "make pokemon bigger" or "change type". Making it ability-specific and involving % changes and whatnot doesn't feel like something they'd do.I think they'll just do something with all the gimmicks they currently have. Iirc LZA had an omni-bracelet (mega, z, dyna, tera) prototype and this is the 30 anniversary gen so I think they'll go for "every gimmick is coming back" gimmick.
>>59019846>jeet jeet jeetHello eeveefag
>>59019569God I wish it was the gimmick but realistically that's probably some kind of underwater effect
>>59019564Wiwa wiwa weewa wee
>>59019894It doesnt sound like visa at all, unless you have yhat discord mod lisp.
>>59019959Its much too drastic for that
>>59019953I think what he's trying to do is replace the current standard of "-tranny" (which itself was a replacement for "-fag") with the current object of hatred in places like the US and Canada. Which means he's probably an American tranny.
>>59019559Petasync
>>59019945>”every gimmick is coming back" gimmick.I can ALMOST see how this could be implemented and balanced but not quite. Dynamax kinda fucks me on the implementation.>Mega stones let mons mega evolve. Gigantamax forms reworked slightly into “Mega G” forms, all 100 BST go to HP>if not holding a mega stone, they terastallize>if holding a Z-crystal, they can use a Z-move. Z-moves are reworked to include max moves; maybe moves with secondary effects become Max moves, and moves without become Z-moves, with some specific moves having overrides to become signature max or Z movesBut I can’t figure out dynamax mechanically. The “time limited powerup for any mon” thing is distinctive and it clashes with the other mechanical systems IMO. To me tera feels like a decent “fallback mega” for mons that don’t get one (it boosts offense and/or gives defensive help if tactically deployed) but “for 3 turns only you are The Wall and all your attacks are a big dick swing” is hard to balance against that.
>>59019559The gimmick for WiiWare is that you cannot buy it in stores, you need to download it.
>>59020437Actually there’s maybe something with max moves, z-moves, and stellar type too. Stellar is mildly half-baked but you can see how it’s meant to be Z-move-ish (“you can get an offensive power boost, but only one time per move type”)Maybe instead of Stellar Tera just giving a STAB boost, it has a max-move-ish effect; rename Max Bolt to Stellar Bolt, same properties and secondary effect, and after you use it the stellar type no longer overrides electric moves. That kind of thing. Tera Blast and Tera Starstorm both retain the unique property that they BECOME stellar type and thus hit tera (and, for funsies, mega) pokemon for SE damage.
>>59019945Ability but better is a pretty simple concept to grasp. It’s a lot more simple than Dynamax was.
>>59020514It’s more interesting mechanically but not flashy enough for a “hit the nut button” gimmick. It’s the kind of idea I’d like to see iterated on offline; the kind of thing like natures and held items that would be decided during teambuilding, rather than with a big energy-zapping pop off moment mid-fight.Like, I could imagine a held item that has this effect of enhancing a mon’s ability as described. That’d be cool. Item clause prevents it from being busted (in the same way as one mega/tera per fight does) and trading a held item for it makes the advantage it confers come with a drawback by default.
>>59020534Good point.What if we add a funny hat?
>>59020551KekSeriously though, why use it mid-battle? I mean I guess choosing which mon’s ability to buff could be tactical, but it doesn’t really feel like the kind of gimmick that needs you to “pick a turn” the way Tera does.Another iteration: give each pokemon species a “latent ability”, distinct from its main or hidden abilities (rather than buffing the abilities themselves). A pokemon can hold an “ability lens” which causes this second ability to activate in addition to its primary one.You could then just add more abilities to get the “buff properties” you want
>>59019564withering waves
>>59020486>>59020437Hang on hang on I got it>omni ring causes mon to tera, unless it is holding a mega stone, in which case it mega evolves, and this transformation can only happen once. Gmax forms reworked into alternate megas.>stellar tera replaces vague “transient STAB effect” with making each move be a stellar-named version of itself (Stellar Aerial Ace, Stellar Thunderbolt, Stellar Flying Press). This comes with the Max Move power boost and secondary effect, PLUS the move’s default secondary effects. Once used, that move cannot be stellar again (except Tera Blast). For all mons besides Terapagos, once all the non-tera-blast stellar moves are used up, the stellar tera fades and the mon returns to normal, including reverting tera blast if you had it. Stellar moves do not ignore protect; however, stellar status moves add the max-guard protect effect to their ordinary effect>for megas and non-stellar (and non-ogerpon) teras, you can hit the tera button AGAIN while already powered up. This lets you turn any of your moves into a Z-move. Doing this expends all the energy built up, and the tera/mega dissipates after the move is used. You cannot tera/mega again in the battle. The Z-move calcs using tera STAB and/or the BST and ability of the mega evolution before reverting it. Z-moves now hit through protect for partial damage like Max Moves
>>59020719Just give up on the "buff for anyone" and lock Dmax and Tera to held items. That's enough to make it work with megas and zmoves. Yes part of the fun and power is being able to Dmax or tera anyone at any moment, but that's never compatible with zmoves and megas... At most we can make six slots for Pokémon and six slots for items, and you decide which 4 Pokémon form your team and which 4 items they carry per battle. It's even better because you are incentivised to carry items that can be used in different situations. Does my dnite carries his mega stone or a normal-type tera crystal?!
>>59019846>buzzword buzzword buzzwordGet some new material, wwfag
>>59020979I can see the argument for the tera shard being a held item, the issue is I think "anyone can tera" is an important way of balancing mega evos. In the Gen VI meta every single team had a mega-able mon and every team brought and used the mega without exception. It'd be like not bringing your one Restricted in Reg H. And since you were always running one and only one mega, the meta became centralized around those megas specifically. You ever even ran two megas and picked one (or at least rarely) because sacrificing a held item for the OPTION to mega that you didn't use neutered the mon so much versus just committing to a single mega and slapping a CB or Life Orb or whatever.Obviously the meta will always be centralized around more powerful mons, but "anyone can tera" meant for every mon you built, you thought about the circumstances where you'd want to tera it, and what the best tera for that situation would be. If you have to "build for tera" that means the number of mons that would ever actually use tera drops dramatically as it stops being something that's situational.And I mean, you ask, does my Dnite carry mega stone or normal tera shard... if your Dnite carries a mega stone, it CAN'T normal tera, it can only mega. So you still have to make the choice between whether it's going to tera or mega at build level. It's just that choosing a tera-focused build for it gives you the ability to put a different item on it. Which is less about "tera normal dragonite NEEDS leftovers" or whatever, and more about "if I have to put a tera shard on a pokemon in order to enable it to tera, that means I'm building my team around that specific mon tera-ing, and only that mon, because carrying multiple mons with tera shards when I can only tera one of them gimps the shit out of me".
>>59019584Why not W/W? Adding a slash fixes it
>>59020257Bookmarking this
How did this thread devolve into wwfags and wiwatrannies arguing? Just say winds and waves like the rest of us.
For me it's WinWak
>>59021212>wrong game franchise
>>59020561Probably a similar reason why you wouldn’t Dynamax or Tera immediately. You can save it for when you need it.A common tactic with Tera is holding off your Tera until your opponent Tera’d so you’d have an advantage.Say Super Iron Fist causes all punching moves to have +1 priority. You could then save your Super Unaware Pokemon which could also treat priority as 0.Of course the Super versions of each ability would be different, but this should illustrate what I mean.
>>59019635Wi and Wa distinguish which version you're talking about. Same reason people say SwSh instead of SS. I've seen SS before, but in my experience, SwSh is more common for the above reason.
>>59021314THIS.
WW can mean multiple things. Woodrow Wilson, Willy Wonka, Walter White?
>>59021333You got me.
>>59021277For tera yes, but tera is situational and not always a buff. There are reasons to NOT want my Gholdengo to be mono-electric. With an ability buff, why do I ever not want it? If I can make Intimidate drop SpAtk as well, why am I not popping it ASAP?Opportunity cost I guess, only one mon gets to use it
>>59019564Pokemon WinRAR
>>59021314SS can also mean SoulSilver though. Of course in context you’d typically see HGSS rather than just SS but still, SS was in some sense “already taken”
>>59019572this is gonna give some poor unfortunate souls an inflation fetish
>>59019577This. I'm so sick of retards looking at the leak footage and thinking everything is a new mechanic when it's clearly just engine testing..
>wwfags vs wiwatrannies
>people speculating on a gimmick we won't see anything of until next june
>>59019559I hope there is no gimmick.
>>59021333>You got one part wrong.>This is not EnergyPowder.
>>59019564can't use WW, people might think you're talking about Wind Waker
>>59021371You do see OP's image, right?
It's funny how saying the full name is shorter than saying WW, and the same as WiWa, so this really is a text only issue.
>>59021333>Pokemon World War
>>59021450Most forgotten part of the lore, is it even canon anymore?
Pokemon WawaBagels and gas
>>59021209>not saying win.wav
>>59021351>poor>unfortunateYeah, just fucking awful.
>>59021681Yes you will, puppy
>>59019559mega-weather. that change the appearance (if applicable) of any poke entering the field during its duration.
>>59019572i haven't been following the leaks, how do we know it's tied weather effects? i wouldn't actually be surprised if weather effects play a central role in this game but if that footage is all we have it doesn't show anything except a wonky shader
>>59021829I hope not. We already did the weather thing, it was Gen III’s thing, we got legendaries for it and everything.
>>59021837Tera leak said the gimmick is weather related, which was all it said about it. So naturally people presume that information is still accurate.I’ve seen more than one claim that it has to do with reviving/resurrecting mons as well though where that stems from IDK.
>>59021843The tera leak also said we'd be getting a greece region. Things change.
>>59019559Based on that icon, I'd say fusion seems likely.
>>59019564Wuwa
>>59021877The leak said Game Freak didn't want the anime to do an archipelago for Rakua, we all assumed that meant the European one, not one in SEA.Also to be bluntly fair and honest, the recent scuttlebutt points at Australia being represented in the region and they DID put a picture of Uluru in the Academy's Art room.
>>59019610I do. I refuse to follow reddit's example of 4-letter acronyms for every gen. You never mention Soul Silver on its own, anyway.
>>59021909Fusion would work so well as a mechanic. It doesn’t even have to be “unlocks meme design” like in the Romhacks, you can do it where a mon just “channels the energy” of a second mon in combat for some attribute changes/synthesis (typing, ability, stats, moves) and they both take damage together when it gets hit.
>>59021909No way fusion is ever happening as a gimmick.
>>59021909Fusions have existed for nearly 15 years.
>>59019835at least the SuMo and ScarVi fags got BTFO'd.SS was the correct acronym for gen 8, but Nintendofags themselves ruined by providing SwSh as an acronym.
>>59022005>>59021909Conceptual sketch>one time only in battle, a mon can “friendship bond” to any other mon in the party>for the rest of the battle, the lead mon has the primary type of the first mon, and the secondary type (or only type) of the second mon>gets the first two moves of the primary mon, and the second two moves of the secondary mon>base stats are the highest from each mon>HP remaining is set equal to the lower of the two mons>both mons abilities activate>both natures are active, but a stat cannot be boosted or dropped further than 10% (no doubling up, but you can cancel a drop or get two boosts/two drops)>EVs are averagedHand-picked merchandisemons/starters and an assortment of random kanto mons that have not yet gotten handjobs this decade can get special forms by undergoing a friendship bond.
>>59021909If you keep rolling a pair of dice, eventually you’ll get two pairs of 6.
>>59022067>Conceptual sketchWhere is it
>>59019877NTA but giving every player an individualized set of encounters per save is a terrible idea. >"It makes each playthrough more unique" It would create saves where people are inundated with shitmons or overpowered mons and the happy medium would be rarer than you'd think. You're pitching it as something that would add replay value and encourage link play, but it would just suck the soul out of the game. You know how long the fun lasts in a randomizer run? 20 fucking minutes, then it just falls flat and you want to inflict that on official titles. I hope you never touch professional game development with that idea in your head.
>>59022117You don’t have to completely randomize all encounter tables, anon. At the least impactful end, you could take all of the “version exclusive” mons and for each one, roll to see which one your save would get. That could be extended further to slightly randomize encounter tables beyond just those mons (with over 1000 to choose from it’s not like they’re hurting for available designs) so you wouldn’t have Romhack everymonosis with clusterfuck routes that have 18 unique encounters per patch of grass, but you don’t have to permit>huehue garchomp in the route 1 grass, oddish in victory roadAmong the most iconic “you have to trade to get them” mons are starters and every version has all of them, the only limit is you can only pick one per save file. It’s not like you don’t encourage trading by per-save restrictions. Multiple game versions is literally just>we know you’ll buy it twice
>>59021179Yes but in this hipotetical scenario, you have one that can mega, one that can dmax/gmax, one that can tera, and one that can zmove... Your team no longer is bond to bring the same mega pkm every time because you have at least 4 different gimmicks! All of them powerful in their own ways. There's much less centralisation.. and if we could choose their held itens when choosing our 4 pkm battle team, out of a total of 6 items in a "held-item battle box", it opens even more the strategies in this competitive environment where even the IV and EV are sometimes known to your opponents.
>>59019572FAKE AND GAY!
>>59022117I want A and B scenarios, and have encounters differ between them. Then you can unlock trading between the two playthroughs at some point.
I would say the gimmick is awakening, when they die, they come back with a light sash and super powers, lasting 3 turns and they can't switch. It's a reference to Luffy from OnePiece, ofc.
>>59022136So if it’s item clause and open team sheet, and there’s no limit to one omni-ring-use-per-battle, I KNOW>your Garchomp is going to mega>your Dragonite is going to Tera Normal>your Corviknight is going to Dynamax>your Dondozo is using a Z-moveBecause those are the items they have, you can use them all, and you aren’t bringing an item you don’t intend to use, much less 4 of them.It’s the same problem mega meta had, except moreso because now every single mon on the team in bring 4 is going to be a mega user, a tera user, a dyna user, and a z-move user. One of each, each of which is all but guaranteed to pop their gimmick quite predictably. What made tera so fun was the mind games of trying to predict which mon would tera, when, and why, and trading power for information once the tera went off. If the other gimmicks come back it’d be better if they fed into that uncertainty, rather than removing it.
>>59022135Doesn't change the fact that you want the turn the whole game into Friend Safari, the worst part of Gen VI bar none. Do you really want to go back to the time where people were panhandling for mons on gamefaqs, reddit, and this shithole?
>>59022168Unironically yes. Yes I want that. I want that exponentially more than I want a generation of autists to pay $140 to own the same game twice to trade with themselves. I want an actual economy of mons and people invested in trading with others because it’s the only way to catch em all, which is SUPPOSED to be what the version differences are about. I want some players to get zigzagoon as their route 1 shitmon, some to get bidoof, and some to get alolan rattata. And I want those players to talk and compare notes and trade with one another. And I don’t want any of them to go buy a second copy of the game so they can do a second playthrough to guaranteed get the mons they’re missing, trade them to themselves, and then shelve that purchase to never touch it again.
I'm sticking with WW (pronounced 4U)
>>59021333Same with RB, GS, RS, DP......
>>59022162Might be the first time anything took inspiration from OP. That has got to be the biggest show with basically zero influence outside of itself.
>>59022183Thank fuck you don't work at game freak, then.
>>59021353Why would they test that effect in particular anon?
>>59022145It's real, anon
>>59019584It's unmistakable for any pokemon context just like SS
>>59022183>"I want a generation of autists to pay $140 to own the same game twice"
>>59019559Hopefully being quality video games
>>59022437>someone hasn't seen the trailerQuality isn't an issue anymore, GF locked in with 5 years of development time.
>>59022441Good bait
>>59019654>LeGoPiEe>not LeGoPiLeGoEe
>>59020719>Gmax forms reworked into alternate megasi've wanted this for a while
>>59022456Thanks
>>59022562How the fuck would that work?
wawawiwaaa
>>59019704>so retarded, gets Crystal wrongAstal.
>>59022941
>>59019559>a fourth evolutionAlready done, mega evolution>a fifth moveAlready done, z-move>let's make pokemon bigger!Already done, dynamax>okay hear me out, a third type with a shiny hatAlready done, terastalizationGF don't have many options left.
WaWi is funnier
WW's gimmick will be a revival/second chance powerup form.
what caused wiwafags to develop such axewound armageddon itt?
>>59019953>>59020160everything good in the slums of mumbai, wiwajeet?
