I look elsewhere and see people looking at them and acknowledging the flaws while enjoying what they do right.Meanwhile here you can't make any criticism without someone calling you retarded and saying that other games do it worse and then ignoring anything that proves them wrong.
>this shit again
How come (You) can't find any ways to criticize XY without coping over ad populum arguments?
I love Gen 6!
>>59026633Contrarians. X and Y are objectively bad because, as the teraleak confirmed, they gutted content to make a planned definitive version Z which never came.
>>59026651>X and Y are objectively bad because [thing that has absolutely nothing to do with the objective quality of the game]every time
>>59026637Why would we cope over ad populum arguments when none have been presented?
>>59026651Wrong, X and Y are objectively the best!
>>59026656Quod erat demonstratum
>>59026665I'm happy you found a new catchphrase to cope with not having an argument, sagefag.
>>59026663Who are the best pokegirls from x and y?
>>59026663Best or not, this is one of the only places that actively defends it and denies any and all flaws
>>59026663Based and factual post.
>>59026681I dunno about the main cast, but the NPCs are overall pretty great
>>59026720maybe you should try finding actual flaws instead of>I'm mad kanto pokemon are in the game
>>59026633>Meanwhile here you can't make any criticism without someone calling you retarded and saying that other games do it worse and then ignoring anything that proves them wrong.That's all because of one schizo. Otherwise Kalos discussion is very chill.
>>59026633>here you can't make any criticism without someone calling you retardedIt's just one bad faith poster doing that.
>>59026681Personally I'd say the Furisode girls, Sina, Mable and Korinna.Including ZA, thise last two count (Mable actually having a far better design this time), alongside Canari, Taunie, Harmony......okay pretty much all of the females with plot significance except for Ansha.
>>59026770The flaw is it was gutted of content to make a better game later (Z), and that better game never came. Also the main gimmick is megas, but you only face trainers who have megas 4 times in the game. Also games easy.
>>59026811>easyPost your tournament results then.
>>59026651This.>>59026656And this just proves the OP's point.
>>59026811>The flaw is it was gutted of contentBut the game does have content. So clearly that’s not true. Find an actual flaw please.>Also the main gimmick is megas, but you only face trainers who have megas 4 times in the game Really? That’s weird. I fought hundreds of trainers who have megas.
>>59026728Wow, it's only a single point better than the next three, that's like barely a difference
>>59026831>no difference in qualityglad you said it
>>59026770It's not the fact they're in the game. It's the fact that despite the game having a large dex, the Kanto Pokémon are far more prevalent. Almost every trainer team, almost every route. They're everywhere and solely for the purpose of nostalgia. That's not the only aspect of Kanto pandering either. Santalune Forest is 100% identical to Viridian Forest even down to most of the wild encounters.But those aren't the only flaws. Linearity and handholding. Sure you can argue that earlier games started the trend, or that later games did it worse. Doesn't automatically absolve XY from doing that too. Then there's the difficulty. Even if all Pokémon games (minus USUM for many) are really easy, XY takes it even further to the point that there is NO CHALLENGE at all.That's just a bit. I'd recommend playing the games and doing your own research.
>>59026786Well it could be multiple schizos. But yes. The schizos only really exist on here, hence why Kalos discussions elsewhere are usually civil.
>>59026859>NO CHALLENGE at allLets see the tournament results then.
>>59026812Finding the campaign in a game is easy ≠ finding the comp scene easy
>>59026770It’s a legit criticism. It’s one of the reasons black and white was so good because it was entirely new pokemon with older pokemon locked to the post game.
>>59026865Oh you must have high placing in the speedrun then. Lets see it.
>>59026859>It's the fact that despite the game having a large dex, the Kanto Pokémon are far more prevalentSo?
>>59026828>But the game does have content. So clearly that’s not true. Find an actual flaw please.All games have content. Doesn't automatically mean XY didn't originally have more.>Really? That’s weird. I fought hundreds of trainers who have megas.I can only count three in the main story and one extra the post game (plus weirdly nerfed Battle Chateau rematches with two of the aforementioned trainers). The Battle Maison does also occasionally have Megas but I've only ran into a handful.
>>59026864What tournament results?There are no tournaments in the games.Now there's online tournaments with other players, but when referring to difficulty in Pokémon games, we're almost always referring to the campaign.Refer to >>59026865
>>59026876>Doesn't automatically mean XY didn't originally have moreSo? What does this have to do with the game’s quality? Also what do you mean by “originally”? The content was never put into the game, retard.>I can only count three in the main story and one extra the post game I can only count the hundreds I fought using the PSS.
>>59026886refer to >>59026869
>>59026869I know very little about speedrunning. But I know XY takes longer to speedrun due to a variety of factors, none of which account for difficulty.
>>59026633I honestly had the most fun with Gen 6 online, but XY were the first mainline games that turned the handholding, linear progression, and gift shillmon up to 11. SwSh were also way too easy. It seems like GF is designing the first mainline entries on new consoles to be baby’s first Pokemon games, and then turns up the challenge a little bit in the subsequent generation.
>>59026891Oh so you actually are not that good at the game. I thoughted you said it was piss easy?
>>59026873They're shoved in your face, constantly referenced and you still haven't acknowledged the SANTALUNE FOREST argument
>>59026888It was planned and some was partially implemented before eventually being cut or significantly toned down. The teraleaks mention cutting a lot of stuff to ensure they reach deadlines.
>>59026899>pokemon are shoved in your face in a pokemon gameAnd you wonder why no one takes your “flaws” seriously
>>59026888>I can only count the hundreds I fought using the PSS.Oh so now we're referring to online battles, a thing very few actually take part in and what Game Freak did not develop around until Gen 7.
>>59026903>they planned thing…and then didn’t do it!Well shit anon I guess every game in fucking existence is bad now. I’m glad you learned how the development of any creative project ever works.
>>59026908>Oh now we’re talking about thing that’s in the gameUh…yes? Are you retarded?
>>59026895Honestly, I don't mind that format. If I want the game to be hard and its easy, I'll simply handicap myself
>plays a multiplayer game>gets surprised people do multiplayer stuff in it?
>>59026898Length of speedrun ≠ difficulty in game.I've never actually speedran anything. I prefer to take my time, unless I'm trying to avoid leaks or something.X and Y are by far, the easiest games in the series.
>>59026906Because it comes at the expense of the new mons.
>>59026920I don't see you at the top 20. Not that easy game for you huh?
>>59026923Except it doesn’t? All the new Pokemon are there in the game. Are you retarded by any chance?
>>59026909Wow. That's not true. Yes a lot of games cut things but very rarely to the extent of XY and rarely for the same reasons. Looking purely at Pokémon games, aside from Gen 2, every single game had a smooth development. Anything removed or scrapped was done due to it either not fitting the game thematically, technical limitations due to the system, or it being deemed unnecessary. Meanwhile with XY it was almost entirely due to inexperience with full 3D and being forced to rush due to time constraints.
>>59026913It's in the game but the game wasn't designed around competetive. It's intended as a side mode for those who felt like using it.>>59026918Pokémon has always been designed around the single player experiences first and foremost (aside from Gens 1 and 7-9).
>>59026934>but the game wasn't designed around competetiveExcept it is. That's why it's in the game. Are you retarded?>Pokémon has always been [FANFIC]Never mind, don't answer that.
>>59026924Top 20 of what? You know someone can still be really good at something while not being within the top 20.
>>59026930all this text and you still haven't pointed out the part that makes the game bad
>>59026929It does. Most new mons are rare encounters for no reason and very few trainers use them. I played through X a few weeks back and went the whole game not running into anything in the wild other than my starter, the box legendary and a few early game mons.
>>59026929You are intentionally being obtuse
>>59026945>Most new mons are rare encountersSo?>and very few trainers use themSo?>>59026946You are unintentionally not able to find a good argument
Serena used Froakie against me just fine and it was a new mon.
>>59026924I am at the top 20 thoughbeit
This but XY.
>>59026937And here we see the wild [FANFIC] projector. Here he is, claiming that something you can easily prove to be correct through simple research (a thing he fails to do) is fanfiction.
>>59026942Proof you didn't read shit
>>59026954Yes. The point is that trainers that use Kalos mons are rare, not nonexistent.
>>59026968Proof that they are rare?
>>59026960Correct. The XY defenders clearly don't understand shit.
>>59024526>>59024526>>59024526
>>59026977WTF LMFAO
>>59026965If BOTW cut billions of hours worth of content it wouldn't change the fact that it's a good game. Your screeching about cut content is completely irrelevant to the game's quality.
>>59026979It’s not like x and y have a lot of other content to lean on. The cut content really hurts the game because it feels unfinished. They could have developed the region and story and features a lot more.
>>59026960Isn't this Hitler's writings on how Jews argue?
>>59026970Play the games.
>>59027003So no proof?
>>59026997>It’s not like x and y have a lot of other content to lean onExcept they do. Find an argument.
>>59027020Proof that they do?
>>59026979Yes. Exactly. Too bad most of XY's existing content is boring.
>>59026930>being deemed unnecessaryMost of what they did cut from XY were side things like mini games.
>>59027026Proof that it’s boring?
>>59027023Proof that they don't?>>59027026Except it isn't. Find an argument.
Gen 6 was the transition for the 3DS era, and as such it had to be weak on the story side to focus in the mechanics. Lots of mechanics that were a mess and not linear among previous games were properly polished with gen 6.Look at breeding for IVs, egg moves, hidden abilities, EV training... it was all standarized in XY to cut down lots of bullcrap and weeks of working for each competitive ready pokemon were cut down to a couple hours.Hell, even breeding from SCRATCH, from catching pokemon in bushes till getting the perfect pokemon to use (once leveled) was possible in a single day, basically removing the 'need' to hack said pokemon to not lose your sanity over it for official tournaments.
>>59027000
>>59026633Reminder than gen 6 was the only generation to have only 2 games until za 10 years later.
Thank god Kojo can’t breed
>>59026681XY had pretty boring human designs imo. Serena's my vote.
>>59026633It was the last pokemon game I was excited for and played on release.
>>59026633because Gen VI temporarily saved the franchise from the dark ages of Gen V so we should be forever grateful for thatit's literally only borts that ever try to claim otherwise, and everyone hates borts except borts
>>59027109this is exactly how johtoddlers and unovabortions discurse
>>59026728
>>59026633The game I played when I was 12 is better than the game you played when you were 12.
>>59028217this but unironically
>>59028217I played the game when I was 12 when it first came out and although I liked it, it was a bittersweet feeling because I felt it left a lot on the table. First of all, I beat it in like a day and since there was no post game I basically only got one day of playtime out of it and never touched it again. Second, it was piss easy, even for 12 year old me who had no concept of stats and didn’t even know that there was a difference between physical and special moves. The game is built like a power fantasy where they give you super powerful megas that no one else has. Finally, the kantowank means that rather than the game having an identity of its own, I basically just remember it as jerking off the gen 1 mons.
>>59026863We literally know one of them, and he posts on Twitter and Reddit too.
>>59026728>>59028197>Ad populum
It's one guy, and you know it's one guy, this thread is meant to bait him out, assuming he's not doing this himself for any number of asinine reasons.
>>59029272>We literally know one of them>one of themit's definitely just one guy with asperger's or some other mental retardation.
>>59026960>>59027109i.e.>I'm assblasted you're not automatically agreeing with my retarded points I'm insisting are flaws but can't actually prove they are
>>59029289There's probably one more, he types like you without capitalization. You know, like a retard.
>>59029307>but can't actually prove they areWhat makes you say so?
>>59029329probably the fact that you started shitposting with unrelated quotes instead of proving the flaws exist
>xy thread>full of people that hate it discussing their favorite 4chan ecelebsTrue combo
No one likes XY, that's why no one talks about it.
>>59029347It gets talked about literally every single day here more than any other gen.
>>59029354You talk about XY. No else does.
>>59029333>unrelated quotesThey describe your behavior perfectly, I don't see how they're unrelated.
>>59029347Yawnfag doesn't even like Gen 6, he just hates everything that came before it.
>>59026633Because this board is full of contrarians. Always has been. X&Y were unarguably the worst mainline Pokemon games at the time of release, and continued to be so until SS. That said, SS and everything released after were so terrible that anything prior feels at least okay now.
>>59026633I'm gonna catch all the chromosomes!
>>59029632How come pokemon got so bad in the later generations? It seems like XY was where they really shit the bed and SM/USUM was a bit better but still not glory days tier and then the switch era was just an abomination. Was it really all just moving to 3d and new consoles that killed pokemon, whereas in like the ds era they had basically mastered handheld pixel art games?
>>59029715Somewhat yes.Game Freak were inexperienced with full 3D. They got a little better in SM then they shat themselves with the Switch due to little experience with it.
>>59029327friendly-fire, bro. and you're letting the no caps tactic get under your skin, clearly.
>>59026728Giving Platinum a lower score than base DP is just proof all the faggots on metacritic or whatever are literally just spewing shit out of their ass.>significantly less slow>50% bigger dex>improved teams for enemy trainers & gymleaders>battle frontier>2% lower review scoreThe ONLY reason I can think is that some people who already owned DP in 2009 didn’t think it was worth it to spend $40 on an upgrade to a game they already own. But in 2026 that argument is fucking irrelevant. There’s a reason Platinum and Emerald get many more downloads on ROM sites than their base versions, and why their physical cartridges cost more than DOUBLE as much. Supply and demand says it all
>>59026869If you’re using speedrunning as an argument 99% of all games are hard as fuck, including kids games, because 90% of (non-tranny) players don’t know how to fucking speedrun a game
>>59029868Yawnfag can only think in extremes
>>59029632>X&Y were unarguably the worst mainline Pokemon games at the time of release, And yet strangely you can’t seem to find any actual problems with them.
>>59026946Most of the XY/kalos defenders are literal underage trolls from a board called the sharty. They just like to raid here because /vp/ is easy to troll and ragebaif
>>59029632>X&Y were unarguably the worst mainline Pokemon games at the time of releasethat was BW
>>59029868Sounds like you just arent good enough at the game.
>>59030231now repost this to every kalos-bashing bort ittyou won't though because you're a hyoocritical little bitch ass seething bort
>sold more>better ratingsKaloschads just keep on winning.
No video game has any flaws with the logic Kalosfags use to defend XY.
>this gran turismo 7 has the same car as gran turismo 2!flaw according to some people btw
>>59030493>boogeyman postingpatheticsasuga borty
>>59030502everyone but borts will tell you gen vi is better than its predecessor at the least
Which is better, Pokemon black and white and b2w2 or x and y?
>>59030621Objectively XY.
>>59030621XY
>>59030557And which flaw posted itt correspondes with that?
>>59030653Probably the idiotic "theres gen 1 pokamans here".
>>59030654>It is amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand, thus making discourse impossible
>>59030671If you don't understant just say so.
>>59030671>PLEASE AUTOMATICALLY AGREE WITH MY DOGSHIT POINTS!!No.
>>59030626>>59030637Why come
>>59030697They are rated better by fans.
>>59030697They have more content.
>>59030697>>59030703Zoomies just like it because it’s 3d and their zoomie brains get broken by 2d pixel art
>>59030727Zoomgods revved you i fear.
>>59030695You don't even understand what that sentence is saying do you?
>>59030723Gen 5 has more pokemon doeOne pokemon = one content
>>59030723No they don’t. They cut content for Pokemon Z that never came out.
>>59029827Emerald and Explorers of Sky are rated lower than their respective base versions too. Third/Enhanced versions are always reviewed as rehashes
>>59030732721 > 649>>59030738And yet it still has more content, which is even sadder.
>>59029827Why would anybody even download or buy diamond or pearl when you can get platinum? Or same thing with RSE. It’s got all the same shit and more.
>>59026633>How come 4chan is the only place that defends Gen 6?The /vp/ discord
>>59030749Because when they released Diamond and Pearl, there wasn't Platinum yet. Only later they would release that retarded cashgrab same game again instead of making the first games better.
>>59030749I like the Pokemon distribution better in the base games.
>Boiling down the complaint about everything in XY blatantly ripping off Kanto to "erhm there are le heckin gen 1 pokemon here!" Yea never address shit like Glittering Cave being a dollar store ripoff of Mt. Moon
>Yea never address shit like [LIE]?
>we're at the point now where he's pretending "TH-THEY BOTH HAVE CAVES!!!" is a flawThis is just sad.
>Dungeon where you're introduced to the main villains also contains a supernerd who gives you one of the regional fossils
>>59030820you're right gen 5 sucks because you get a grass/fire/water starter from professor tree and then your childhood friend rival who wants to become the champion picks the starter with the type advantage to yours and then you go around collecting 8 gym badges to enter victory road and beat the elite 4
Ok but the gen 1 pokemon are actually an issue.
Ok but no they aren't.
>>59030837>Ok but the pokemon appearing in a pokemon game are actually an issue
you can tell kanto pandering isn't a real problem because the people who bring it up never also screech about sinnoh panderingit is literally just zoomers crying because they're jealous of kanto
>>59030831>This level of disingenuous Nigga kill yourself
>>59030842>>59030841It’s an issue because the nostalgiawank overtakes other aspects of the game and just dominates the region as a whole. They literally give you a kanto starter and some of the routes have more Kanto pokemon than kalos
>>59030853>make bad argument>bad argument gets mocked>"Y-YOU'RE BEING DISINGENUOUS!! PLEASE AUTOMATICALLY AGREE WITH MY SHITTY ARGUMENT!!!"No.
>>59030857>It’s an issue because the nostalgiawank overtakes other aspects of the gamenot really>They literally give you a kanto starterthat eventually turns into a new pokemon>and some of the routes have more Kanto pokemon than kalosso?
>>59030852Sinnoh is Masuda's true magnum opus. It's the first time he really got a game region and lore right and has been the true basis for the franchise as a whole going forward since games like RS and FRLG were still experimental and didn't even have the Phys/Spec split. It surpasses even BW and XY because these games desperately only function because of DP's success in keeping Pokemon thoroughly established as a strong, Nintendo brand and Lucario remains more beloved than Zoroark or Greninja have to this dayIf you're not Kanto, at least be Sinnoh. Most games can't even reach that level. Even Masuda, since he didn't even make the best Sinnoh games, which is why people get mad at Sinnoh nostalgia when it's further proof Masuda IS the one holding Pokemon back
>Kanto pokemon with Mega evolutions in the Kalos Game: 10>Kalos pokemon with Mega evolutions in the Kalos Game:0
>>59030831Yeah, just like Gen 6, except Gen 6 also has Gen 4's Kanto pandering by having you encounter more Kanto Pokemon than anything else, and it's own unique Kanto shilling. To put it another way, it's the worst of all worlds.
What would pokemon z have been like bros
>>59030894Maybe slightly better teams, Southern Kalos, Soaring, other shit that got reused for ORAS depending on when it was planned to release, and it probably would have been Mega X and Mega Y since there were two slots saved for it.
>>59030881Glad we agree gen 5 is worse than 7 and 9
>>59030861>General game structure is the same thing as direct copies of things that happen in kanto, but worse
>>59030870SINNOTARD WARNING SINNOTARD WARNING YOU ARE WARNED
>>59030911>it’s just general structure if it’s in a game I like
>>59030919>>59030887>>59030871
>>59030911Ok then that’s just the general game structure of being introduced to the evil team. I guess that means it isn’t a flaw anymore.
>>59030908Yeah, the modern Pokemon games are better than the classic ones, XY being the nail in the coffin for them. It was so bad Masuda got ousted and the immediate next game is so much better in every way.
>>59030932>modern Pokemon games are better than the classic onesBro you just posted cringe
>>59030919Having a Pokemon based road block is general structure. Having to wake up Snorlax with a Pokeflute isn't. Hell, one of the three times you have to wake up Snorlax in the franchise has a twist on it that XY simply doesn't because it's not innovating in any way.
>>59030932OBJECTIVE TRVTH
>>59030945>Having to wake up Snorlax with a Pokeflute isn'tWho decided that? Sounds like general structure to me.
>>59030956I knew classic Pokemon fags didn't have basic pattern recognition
>>59030852>if you criticize the 1% you must also criticize the middle class
>More Kanto pokemon got mega evolutions than any single other generation, all the way up through ZA>Charizard gets 2 megas>Mewtwo gets 2 megas>Only non Kalos legendaries that are catchable are from Kanto>Handed a Kanto starter at the beginning of the game so you can box the Kalos starter(doesn't happen in any other game)>Pokeball factory is a ripoff of Siph Co.>NPCs constnatly reference Kalos>Pokeflute Snorelax>"Unknown Dungeon"
>>59030831Yeah, why is there so much Kanto shilling in Pokemon Spectrum?
>>NPCs constnatly reference KalosNice freudian slip.
>>59030976What truly is the difference between Kalos and Kanto, at the end of the day?
>just consoom Santalune Forest or you hate all of Pokemon chuddieWhat is wrong with Kalosbros?
>>59030871 >>59030887 >>59030972
>>59026633>How come 4chan is the only place that defends Gen 6?Because you don't have to tie your opinion to your name/reputation here so people can have the stupidest fucking opinion you've ever heard and not need to defend it.
>>59030972So?
>>59031025Its lazy, trite and robs Kalos of its identity.
>>59031038What prior game can I use megas in? What prior game has a pokeball factory?
>>59031042>Pokeball FactoryCould you be more specific? You mean the >Technology Facility>In the City where you get your 6th gym badge>Where you do battle with the Evil Team of the region>Who is attempting to steal items from within said Facility>After which you are awarded a Master Ball?
>>59030837>Ok but the gen 1 pokemon are actually an issue.People on here always complain about CHARIZARD but it wasn't an issue in practice. Gen 6 and 7 proved that modern Pokemon species still stand out. That making new Pokemon rare or uncommon doesn't actually harm that Region's identity or potential at all. Similar philosophy to GSC, but may be a problem if you prefer the philosophy of Hoenn or Unova. Besides that, old Pokemon being redesigned as Megas or Fairy Type was tied to Kalos lore anyway.
>Mega Evolution>Part of Kalos' identitylol?
I got banned for "inciting genwars" last week for calling somebody brown, yet mods won't ban yawnnigger for endlessly inciting genwars.Great.
>>59031098Ywnbull says only facts doebeit.
>>59031078That’s just general game structure.
Who’s winning the genwars?
>>59030746151 new pokemon > 69 new pokemon
>>59031126XY has both sets of new pokemon
>>59031133the unova pokemon aren't new in kalos doeeber
>>59031137Everything is new if its your first game howeveralbeittsondoebit
>>59031141But its not new to the franchise!
>>59031137So? They’re still in the game.
>>59031145They're not new.
>>59031137glad we agree BW2 is worse than XY because it has no new pokemon
>>59031100>YwnbullI don't know what that is.
PWT = 1 ContentNo PWT = 0 Content
Berry farming = 1 ContentNo berry farming = 0 Content
Berry Farming = Not Pokemon Battles = 0 Content
>>59031094Bad bait but I'll bite I guess.XY had a big cultural monument themed around Mega Stones, and the sequel to that story just came out a few months ago...
Why didn’t they make mega evolutions for kalos pokemon if that was their region’s gimmick? Are they stupid?
>>59031192They did.
>>59031184>XY had a big cultural monument themed around Mega StonesIts got a statue but its so secretive that only Korrina, Lysandre, and Diantha even use the shit. Its akin to a fucking naruto clan technique than it is a regional gimmick.One wouldn't be crazy to say its more at home in Hoenn during the events of ORAS because NPC trainers actually fucking use it.
Why doesn't Yawnfag actually praise X&Y for what it does well?
>>59031258Because he doesn't even like pokemon.
Because XY are thoroughly mediocre games that don't have a real identity and have been lapped by other games, both before and after in every single regard.But at least you can have some customization on a 144p ds screen.
>>59031268>screech about pokemon appearing in a pokemon game>”h-he doesn’t like pokemon”Nice projection.>>59031294>Because XY are thoroughly mediocre gamesNah, it’s pretty obviously better than its predecessors.
>>59031300>Didn't name a single thing it does well
>>59031300Pokemon bw and b2w2 are top tier games while xy is mid so that can’t be true.
>>59031105Yawnchad ofc
>Yawnfag's fw you ask him to talk about what makes XY so great and NOT mention any other pokemon games while doing so
>>59031312XY is better than both so that can’t be true
>>59031319>sagefag’s fw you ask him to give an actual flaw with XYftfy
>>59031300no, you don't like pokemon because you just shit on the games you dislike rather than ever talking about what you actually like from the ones you supposedly like.it's all just hatesturbation for you.
>>59031321You believe XY is flawless then?
>>59031094I assume the general public knows little to nothing about Mega Evolution
>>59026633probably nostalgia, but either way if anyone tells me their favorite is anything post BW2 I know I can dismiss anything they have to say
>>59031100Fact or not, it is still inciting a genwar
>>59031336>probably nostalgia, You’re right.
>>59031341>for things every game in the series is guilty ofElaborate
>>59031334Yes. A work without a flaw.
>>59031133Only a handful of Unova mons are there. Based on memory there's the monkeys, Throh and Sawk, Axew and that fucking Hydreigon in Victory Road. Oh and I believe Roggenrola and Zorua too.
>>59031321Route 13>Single worst desert area in the entire franchise>skates and bike useless>can't avoid encounters because they're all fucking dust clouds>oh btw they're all arena trap pokemonTeam Flare>Probably the single weakest "Evil" evil team before or after, none of the aura of gen 1/2 rocket, campyness of Team Aqua/Magma, none of the menace and intrigue of Galactic, incredibly basic and straight-forward like the multi-faceted Plasma, and 0 swag like Neo-Plasma, No personal stakes like the aether foundationElite 4 and Gym Leaders>Completely forgettable trainers, genuinely who fucking remembers any kalos gym leader but Korrina, and Korrina is remembered as "that bitch who gives us the retardedly broken mega lucario"Pacing>Starts out with a good pacing from Starter to Santalune, but then you get a massive slog between that and badge 2, but then you get blitzed with Shalour/Courmaline/Lumiose/Laverre/Anistar which is basically like half the game in 2 hours which sucks dick because the best part of every pokemon game is that badge 2-7 zone where your team isn't so overpowered that trainers and Gyms can still pose a threat to you.Megas>Poorly distributed, poorly handled, one of the few you actually get to use (remember, almost 90% of players used mega lucario) wasn't even a kalos pokemon, but Sinnohwank Shilldog. 0 Gym leaders use them, only 3 story npcs use them, not even mentioning the abhorent favoritism with which pokemon get Megas.
>>59031381>route 13>IT’S BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!one point in and you already failed to name a flaw. Hilarious.
>>59031396>Name something that sucks>This sucks>D-doesn't count!you lost and got raped, by me.
>>59031381I feel like team flare would have been actually cool if they were aliens like they were originally conceived to be. It’s kind of stupid but at least entertaining and gives them some personality instead of them being, like you said, being generic and boring.
>>59031396This is the worst attempt at dismissing an entire post I've ever seen.You really are mentally challenged Yawnfag.
>>59031426The funny thing is that despite not really liking XY, I have a decent amount of good things to say about it.Despite the gym leaders being really forgetable, Kalos is the undisputed king of gym puzzles (not you Clemont)Santalune spider web, Korrina's roller rink, that big tree, Anistar's mindfuck that takes advantage of the 3d, good stuff.
>>59031401If you can’t explain why a thing is a flaw, then it isn’t actually a flaw. You are completely inept at naming flaws in XY.>>59031426>sagie still can’t find a flaw in XY
>>59031453I explained why its a flaw.
>>59031453Explain why his explanation of the flaw is not an explanation of the flaw.
>>59031192>Why didn’t they make mega evolutions for kalos pokemon if that was their region’s gimmick?Megas were designed to redesign existing Pokemon. Their plan per the Teraleak was to introduce around 70-80 new Pokemon, alongside new "4th Stage" Evolutions.Kalos Pokemon were already new, and mostly good enough to stand on their own competitively. No point in buffing them. Until Z. >>59031219>akin to a fucking naruto clan technique than it is a regional gimmick.That honestly makes it sound cooler than characters having Key Stones for free.
>>59031453>>sagie still can’t find a flaw in XYnigger I don't know who that is, and I like XY.I am challenging you to show you actually like Pokemon by enthusing what you like about the games you supposedly like instead of constantly shit-talking the ones you hate.
>>59031468Nta. I like it because I liked it when I was 12 years old. I liked it because it turbo hyped the old pokemon that I liked.
I tried to find who this "sagefag" even is and the closest thing I could find to an origin is yawnfag randomly accusing someone of saging multiple threads.This has haunted yawnfag for years.
>>59031505He made up a schizo and accuses everyone of being said person.
>>59031485I'm not asking because I don't believe somebody could like XY; as I said, I like XY.I'm asking because I don't believe this mentally defective "person" actually likes Pokemon. I am challenging him to prove that he actually likes Pokemon by talking positively about a Pokemon game without resorting to shitting on other Pokemon games.
What if x and y didn’t get rushed and they made it good and then made a z version or mega x and mega y that was even better? That would be kino.
>>59031532I know I just wanted to talk about my experience. Me and my friend got x and y on release and stayed up all night that day beating it and then never touched it again because there is basically no postgame lol. I liked it because it was 3d and looked good and I liked the old Pokémon’s but I wish I got more than a day of use out of it. Also it felt super easy even for 12 year old me who barely knew about the stats and combat system. Also besides the sakuga the story and game felt very bland and I don’t remember anything of the characters or villains, compared to the old games where you remember guys like Cyrus for being an edgelord and Cynthia for being hot and n for being a bleeding heart PETA hipster
What's even the fucking pointI've seen this thread like fifty fucking times and it never goes anywhere, discussion is always circular and nobody ever changes their mind on gen 6 because the parties involved are either retarded or arguing in bad faithFor the love of all that is holy please move on to something else I beg you
>>59031460No you didn’t. You just described the route and insisted it’s bad.
>>59031562You just described his explanation and insisted it’s bad.
>>59031559There's at least two of us saying we don't even hate Gen 6. Yawnfaggot is the autistic faggot who refuses to budge an inch rhetorically.
>>59031154No new Pokémon doesn't automatically mean it's bad. If it's not a new generation then it doesn't need to introduce anything new.
>>59031533Z/MegaXY would be peak. >better written Flare>expanded post game>reworked pokemon distros>better mega access, perhaps some story caveats to allow gym leaders access to megas>rebalanced level curve with the exp share>Southern Kalos>>59031562If you need more explanation as to why its shit, then you were ngmi to begin with.
>>59031574>w-wait it doesn’t count because it’s a game I likeeveryfucking timeThis is why your “””flaws””” with XY aren’t taken seriously.
>yawnfaggot completely skips over the challenge to simply just talk positively about XY without resorting to shitting on other gamesYeah, this nigger does not like Pocket Monsters.
>100 replies later and he hasn't given a single thing he likes about XY
>>59031578>>59031574>>59031154Aren’t black kyurem and white kyurem technically new Pokemon
Refusal to talk about the other flaws listed in that post also signals that you agree with them, btw.
>XY is bad because…um….ONE OF THE ROUTES WAS TOO CHALLENGING FOR ME!!
>>59031620Just talk about why you like the games, yawnfaggot.
>>59031626I like XY because it has challenging routes
I wish Yawnfag picked more a more interesting game to autisticlly defend.
>>59031628Specifically?
>XY is good because…um….ONE OF THE ROUTES WAS CHALLENGING FOR ME!!
>>59031158Correct>>59031164While it is content, very few actually cared about it. So is it good content?>>59031167Now now, contests and Pokéathlon are cool
>>59031210Not immediately when XY came out. Aside from Diancie, a Pokémon many would never know existed, there weren't any. We should've gotten all the Kalos Megas we got in ZA back in XY.
>>59031628Which routes are you referring to?
>>59029901>literal underage trolls from a board called the sharty. They just like to raid here because /vp/ is easy to troll and ragebaifToday I will remind them:https://s,o,yjakwiki.org/Vp/Remove the commas.
>>59031632>>59031681Route 13.
>>59031666Literally every Pokemon in the game that has a Mega Evolution is a Kalos Pokemon except for Latios and Latias.
>>59031705What do you find challenging about that route in particular?
>>59031713>Single best desert area in the entire franchise>skates and bike useless>can't avoid encounters because they're all fucking dust clouds>oh btw they're all arena trap pokemon
>>59031725I remember being able to avoid the encounters.But, anyway, is that the only challenging route you enjoy? And, are the challenging routes the only aspect of XY you like?
>>59031396>post lists flaws that everyone with a functioning brain sees >sweeps it to the side without even reading the whole post
>>59031451I'd say it was the last gen with good gym puzzles
>>59031453Good thing they explained why something is a flaw and you failed to explain why it wasn't
>>59031802>Good thing they explained why something is a flaw never happened btw
Because this site runs rampant with contrarians. It's pretty much their perfect habitat.
>>59031465Yeah but that led to many Gen 6 mons getting forgotten and very few were actually consistently good in comp
>>59031851And yet Greninja and Sylveon are more memorable than every unova pokemon combined
>>59031562And their description explains why it's bad
>>59031578BW2 aren't the start of a new generation so they aren't required to introduce new mons. XY are a new gen, so they have to.
>>59031903No it doesn’t>Chargestone Cave is dogshit>You have to push electrified rocks>Also Ferroseed has Iron Barbs
>>59031599Depends on whether forms are counted as separate Pokémon or not
>>59031909>w-wait it doesn’t count because it’s a game I like
>>59031620It wasn't challenging, just badly designed.
>>59031628Such as?
>>59031928>it’s badly designed because it was too hard for me
>>59031698
>>59031705What makes it difficult?>>59031709Really? I didn't know Aerodactyl, Aggron and Manectric were Kalos mons.
>>59031808On 'yawnfag is always right day' which is February 31st
>>59031938>Single best desert area in the entire franchise>skates and bike useless>can't avoid encounters because they're all fucking dust clouds>oh btw they're all arena trap pokemon
>>59031938Aerodactyl can be found in Glittering Cave, which is in Kalos.Aron can be found in Terminus Cave, which is in Kalos.Electrike can be found in Kalos Route 10, which is in Kalos.
>>59031897Haxorus, Hydreigon, Landorus, Zebstrika, Gigalith, Volcarona, Chandelure, Ferrothorn, Excadrill and Eelektross almost always crack top 10 or top 50 (well at least one or two do). Greninja and Sylveon are pretty much the only Kalos mons to regularly crack those lists, and one is a starter and the other an Eeveelution.
>>59031911See I can actually justify those.>You have to push electrified rocksSo what? It's not actively ruining the experience. It requires player input. The dust clouds on Kalos Route 13 do not.>Also Ferroseed has Iron BarbsNot nearly as bad as Arena Trap. Arena Trap forces you to KO, catch or use an item or move to end the battle, Iron Barbs does not.
>>59031916I never mentioned that I liked it
>>59031932It's not hard at all. I actually prefer things to be harder. Makes it more fun and forces me to adapt.
>>59031943Making it annoying doesn't automatically make it difficult. All the Pokémon in that route are just fodder.>>59031946Yes, they're found in Kalos but aren't Kalos Pokémon. Aerodactyl is a Kanto Pokémon and the other two are Hoenn Pokémon.
>>59031381>skates and bike uselessSo what? It’s not actively ruining the experience.>can't avoid encounters because they're all fucking dust cloudsSo what? It’s not actively ruining the experience. It requires player input.>oh btw they're all arena trap pokemonSo what? It’s not actively ruining the experience. It requires player input.
>>59031979
>>59026979No actually if they cut the last 30% of botws story and then scrapped all the post game content so they could make botw:de everyone would say vanilla botw was shit
>>59031843This cope doesn't really work when we have ratings.
>>59032156Ratings don't matter. They never mattered. Except to retards that think appeal to popularity is a real argument
>>59032159This cope doesn't really work either.
>>59032160It never was a cope. If you want to fight over metacritic scores go back to Xitter, snoy.
>>59032162Lot of coping from you again.
>>59032168The only one coping is (You) because you have no retort to "Relying on popularity and aggregate scores obscures deeper truths and inhibits thoughtful analysis under the guise of consensus and validation"
>>59032179Copey please.
>>59032180>No retortI accept your concession
>>59032188I accept your coping.
>>59032193Copey wants the last word so bad.
>>59032197Uh oh /v/tard melty...
Bort reveals xer true intentions...
Common Kalosian W
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316 replies and he still never named a single thing he liked about XY
>>59032596What is one thing that you liked in x and y?
>>59032682Caelum is a pretty underrated rival
>>59032596>>59031628
>>59031977>they're found in Kalos but aren't Kalos PokémonBy definition, that makes them Kalos Pokemon.
>>59032941>>59031640
>>59032950By whose definition, your mom’s? Lol
>>59032974I’m sorry you’re ESL.
324 replies and he still never named a single flaw of XY
>>59032959Sounds like a pretty valid reason to like the game.
