Pokephiles lost
>Twitter screencap thread
>>59027082While I respect Pokopia’s lore more than anything Game Freak has ever shat out. How the heck are Pokémon able to follow commands if they don’t at least partly understand humans without being trained for specific commands?
>>59027088The same way dogs do. They associate words with certain actions.
just because I dont know spanish doesnt mean I couldnt learn it
>>59027082>humans leave earth>1000 years later none of the local wildlife understands human language since humans haven't been around for 1000 yearsgee who woulda thunk it
>>59027082I don't even like pokephilia but someone who chooses Penny as their pfp is the last person whose take on pokemon lore I want to hear.
>>59027100Context is very important here. A Pokemon within the context of the series is more akin of a pet rather than a person, and this is something that even the creator has hinted at. From the way Pokemon are treated within the context of the series it's pretty safe to say that they're more akin to pets and critters than they are to people.With this in mind it becomes apparent that Pokemon not understanding people is more like that of a pet not understanding their owner rather than an English speaker not understanding Spanish. Verily indeed, even as far as Gen I with Lapras pokedex entry we knew the vast majority of Pokemon are unable to understand their owners. With this information in mind Pokegroomers and their inane groomer fantasies have no place in this franchise. Their inane mind can't comprehend that this series does *not* support their nasty groomer fantasies and Pokephilia is more like an owner groomer and molesting their pet more so than it is love between two people. Verily so, stop trying to justify inane groomer fantasies and cease having inane sexual fantasies towards magical critters from a children's franchise.
>>59027130pokemon are capable of learning language doebeit
>>59027082>it took Pokopia to confirm this for this personIt has been made pretty clear in dex entries dating all the way back to Gen 1 that only a handful of Pokemon can actually comprehend human languages.
>>59027133I was going to mention this but I forgot. If you're talking about Meowth know that the anime is inconsistent with this and by Pokedex entries like Lapras' and Ninetales' we get the picture that the majority of Pokemon don't understand humans, this is only reinforced by the games. Meowth is a huge outlier and we know thanks to the late Takeshi Shudo, who was the head writer of the original anime, that Meowth knowing human speech was a convenient way to have the audience know what Pokemon are saying, he was made to talk as a way to show that Pokemon are capable of understanding and talking like people. Stop trying to justify your inane groomer fantasies.
>>59027142its still cannon
>>59027082All I'm hearing is that digimon can consent.
>>59027082Pokémon belong to Pokémon.
>>59027165back to the cuck chair umbreonfag
>>59027142>he was made to talk as a way to show that Pokemon are capable of understanding and talking like peopleDoesnt that undermine your argument? Honestly i just think pokemon are a huge grey area and you shouldn't think to hard about it or it stops making sense
>>59027082Pokiopa sounds like a disease
>>59027088I don't think my dog understands that her name is her name, just that it's a sound she knows when I want her attention and to come here Whatever it may be, you should still not fuck dogs or dolphins or pigs or the like
>>59027082
>>59027097>"Charmander, use Ember!">"ghamandrr oos inbar??" *spits fire*>"Yes, good, Charmander!">"tain sa goo manddr? inbar = mi go ugblehh??"
>>59027082>understanding the other person's language is necessary for expressing consent>thinking consent is even a factor that pokephiles care about
>>59027265>just that it's a sound she knows when I want her attention and to come hereWow hmmm if only there was a word for that.
>>59027288Don't fuck dogs.
>>59027292I dont want to, i want to know what you think qualifies as "knowing your name" because for all intensive purposes your dog has it figured out
>>59027298>for all intensive purposes
>>59027298I don't know, ask a philosopher. My goal in this conversation is to say fucking dogs is bad, I have no passion in the rest of this debate. Sorry, YMS.
not touching this pedantry, a dog knowing sit isn't the same as it knowing a language
>>59027088>Soundproof
All I'm hearing is turning yourself into a pokemon is the right way to go about this
>>59027130>>59027142What about Psychic Types? They can use telepathy which circumvents the language barrier.>>59027130>this series does *not* support their nasty groomer fantasieshttps://rentry.org/bm9m59vu
What's the betting it has a Penny avatar as it assumes she's a trans character?
>>59027088Your og doesn't understand your words, it jsut does thing in respons to similar sound. Talking and whistling is functionally identical to it
>>59027082>implying this will stop me from wanting a piece of Lucario's fat ass
>>59027088Pokemons are sapient , they can learn spoken English if they feel like it
>>59027097Pokemon are more intelligent than dogs by far. Dogs in the real world can learn to use word boards to communicate btw.
>>59027322>knowing a word isnt the same as knowing a languageHoly shit what other insights do you have? Knowing a number means you dont know calculus? Knowing "if" doesnt mean you can code? Knowing the color "red" doesnt mean you can paint?
>>59027130>Verily indeedfaggot
>>59027082>twittard unironically uses Penny pfpOpinion discarded.
>>59027082>>59027142>>59027133>autistic weirdo moralfagging hentai when they are a shipper fag and a rainbow flag faggot who is okay with dickchopping in actual real life like the line of moralfagging somehow isn't already completely blown the fuck away with rule 34 at all.It's like on-model retardationfags with this. >Oh no bro I jerk off to it or am asserting my issue with hentai it's off model and that is a moral line that spits in the face of god.Any this faggot is a shipfag.You jerk off to a fucking cartoon relationship or very least unhealthy obsession with cartoon character being in a romantic relationship. You aren't allowed in polite society either.
>>59027082>harkness test weirdosten bucks say Kleakhos is the troon in the screencap
>>59027553To add to this people have been communicating with animals for decades with language. Koko the gorilla is a famous example. She was taught sign language. Koko talked about many things, and talked about what happened to her and how she ended up in captivity.
HMOFAgs are some of the most easily mindbroken and fun to bully people on all of 4chan.
>>59027562Stop fucking dogs.
>>59027165based and correct
>>59027777Luckily humans are Pokemon too
pokemon doesnt have lore
>>59027088My cat understands what bed means. Animals can learn a few words by association with actions.
>>59027817I'm sorry Digimon's constant humiliation ritual has broken your mind. Feel free to go to another board.
>>59027837im sorry you still like the franchise that changes its mind about everything every game because they cant be fucked to even attempt consistency
>>59027100Can you teach yourself how to speak dog
>>59027837
>>59027082>most Pokémon.Still got fucked by a Froslass though.
Haven't we known this?Otherwise N's 'power' isn't really particularly amazing, since a Pokemon could just draw stuff in the sand with a stick or something to close the gap in communication issues with people.
>>59027881Apparently yes because there's humans who can speak Pokemon in the series too. Hell, there was a whole movie about it.
>>59027082No one cares, also go back
>>59027887Fucking cope digifag
You guys are trying to fuck Pokemon?
The player ditto is nuts, can read, write and construct fucking anything on the fly while making up stuff in their head with no prior instruction.If anything Pokopia proves most if not all Pokemon are smart as fuck, they can make a society without humans no problem.
>>59027974You certainly are.
Why are Pokemon-onlys so retarded?
>>59027082This person is retarded. Its like saying that humans are retarded creatures for not being able to understand Pokemon. Aside from basically ignoring everything related to human and Pokrmon intimate relationships because it ruins their dumbass headcanon, the Pokemon in this game are not only trying to restore the planet for themselves but also for humans and are always thinking of them. Even in a game where Pokemon are the forefront of making the planet habitable for all, you still have sacks of shits like this who still see Pokemon as stupid beasts. Humans should jut fucked off and went extinct honestly, they're more trouble than their worth and it slightly pains me to see how 95% of the Pokemon truly miss them while the other 5% is chill with them being around again.
>>59027082Is TPC gonna stop making humanoid mons then? No? Opinion discarded
>>59027082kill all pokephilejeets
>>59027777checkedgoatfuckerjeets lost
>>59027536Have fun rotting in Pokejail
>>59027082>>59027130>>59027133>>59027142Both game and anime shows the pokemon instantly able to understand human orders from the very moment they're caught.Dex entries are the only real contradiction to the idea that pokemon can understand human speech instinctively, and they're well known to contain nonsensical bullshits
>>59027948N can understand what pokemon say, which is exceptional for a human.Communication in the pokemon universe has always been depicted as a one way thing.Basically pokemon can all understand (but not speak) human speech.Pokemon can all understand and speak each others (making the whole predators/prey dynamics cannibalism).Humans cannot understand nor speak pokemon language.
>>59027948Its humans that are unable to understand Pokemon largely speaking but you would think freaks like people in the twitter cap would understand that.
>>59027282KEK
Everytime this subject comes ups, there are two pieces of evidence that everyone fails to mentionA. That scene in Ilex Forest in HGSS, where your Pokemon somehow perfectly understands the Kimono girl's statement that she's lost and proceeds to show her the way out of the forest, despite not even being addressed directly. 2. Pokemon in the anime communicate with each other intelligently all the time, in their own weird "language", showing that they are in fact intelligent enough to do so.Now you might say "but that contradicts [blank] & [blank]", and to that I say, exactly! As is typical for Pokemon lore, the information on this subject is incoherent and contradictory, so you're best off just going with whatever headcanons you prefer without giving a fuck what Gamefreak says (which is what you should do with any franchise btw, "canonicity" is bullshit).Oh, and also, none of this matters in regards to whether gooning to pokephilia is immoral btw. They're 2-Dimensional fantasy creatures, morality is N/A here. The only point of having this discussion is if you just want to nerd out about Pokemon lore for fun.
Pokémon constantly contradicts itself. Legends ZA just had a wild Skarmory accept the invitation of a chef to come to his restaurant.
>>59028919And that part in BW2 where the Zoroark perfectly communicates in human speech while transformed.
>>59028567>From the very moment they’re caughtPretty sure the anime shows even wild Pokemon being able to understand human speech sometimes
may I ask for proof of this suggested lore please and thank you
This is more or less my take regarding pokephilia
>>59027082thankfully basically every legendary and mythical is confirmed to speak human language between the movies and the gamesnothing can stop my insatiable lust for mesprit
>>59029087Yeah that's what I was implyingIf they're able to perfectly understand orders from the very moment they're caught, it means it's something they do naturally and not the result of some training like dogs in real life
dragonfuckers won
>>59027082pokephiles are fucking sick in the headme personally I'm only attracted to the pokechildren like a normal person.
>>59029132Why not both?
>>59029095based john mcaffee
>>59027082Fr
>>59027120trvth nvke
>>59029132Based post
>>59029132/vp/edos truly are the best of us
>>59027459>using the stories made by an ex employee in his free time no way you are real
>>59030325>memenigger gifback to tiktok with you.
>>59029132
>>59030325>ex employee Where does this retarded meme come from? They're still at Game Freak to this day.
>>59030332not proving me wrong
>>59029093that's a no
>the earthquakes caused by people fapping to Gardevoir are so powerful that supposed fans want there to be less communication possible between trainers and pokemonSo, let's assume this (that pokemon cannot understand humans) is a thing, and will remain a thing. Are there people who actually think this will stop pokefucking?What's the radio, do you think, of people who jerk it to pokemon, and people who have literally fucked a goat?
>>59030403even if it was it doesn't matter, he's the pokephile, not game freak
Moralfag arguments over fictional gooning is the dumbest shit I've seen.
Animalfaggotry retroactively ruins the franchise. That is all. I don't like to think of my team as pets but as equals.
>>59030464it kills community, is parasitic to every place of discussion online, and ultimately, is extremely corny. You best believe I'll shame people with weird paraphilias they feel obligated to disclose and share. If they were true to their word and kept it to themselves or in their special discord servers, most people would let it go, I guarantee
>>59027120>Pennywho?
>>59030517>If they were true to their word and kept it to themselves or in their special discord servers, most people would let it go, I guarantee>special discord serversHey dipshit, you are literally on the special website for porn addicts
>>59030532board azul
Consent isn't ability to write a metaphysical essay about power inbalances and their implications in a relationships.It's simply willingness to have sex with someone at a given moment.Any pokemon can consent, and so can any creature (human or not) old enough to express (not necessarily through spoken speech) their willingness or refusal to engage in an activity.
>>59030551>surface level understanding that has been found problematic time and time again for decades.
>>59030560>for decadesAka the moment when left-wing extremism feminist nonsense started to gain tractionCoincidence?
>>59030583Hope you got your consent forms filled inhttps://youtu.be/-y6XiHg86Mw?si=ZF_9PBUsVgyU9vkW
>>59027082The sinnoh tales come from better games than pokopia, so their lore actually matters to me. Sorry modern gen player, but your opinions just matter less
>>59027634Koko is actually a really bad example.We don't know anything about Koko, because Koko didn't use any established sign language. She used essentially a homebrew sign, exclusive to Koko and her trainers. It is impossible to externally verify anything Koko allegedly said, and several of the things Kokonis stated to have been able to do imply contradictory limits. It is impossible to say if Koko was actually exhibiting linguistic productivity, because the language she was signing was essentially ad-hoc by her trainers, and all of the data we have on it was compiled after she died.A much better example, and the most linguistically gifted non-human animal we have good data on is Alex the grey parrot, who was able to combine concepts and generate language consistently, create new terminology for novel situations, and explain things they had never been told about before. Even then, Alex struggled immensely with tense, and orders of future or past events, something basically every other animal linguistic tests have been run on struggle with, like Kanzie. Except Koko, further calling into question whether Koko was actually linguistically capable at all, or if her trainers were just very very "generous".
>>59027553No dog has ever passed any of the baseline requirements for linguistic mastery. Dogs aren't "speaking" when they use soundboards or buttons, they're identifying patterns that get their owner to do a particular thing. A dog presses these three buttons not because it understands them, but because when it pushes them, their owner takes them outside. This isn't to disparage dogs, dogs actually do have some cognitive superpowers among animals, in that they are extremely good at understanding human intent and desires, which leads to the other way dogs use tools like this. Look up Clever Hans at some point, but long story short, there was a horse trained to do math. Except of course there wasn't, horses can't do math. What horses CAN do, is read their owner's body language to intuit that their owner wants something, possibly a specific thing, can further read body language to tell when their owner wants more, or is anticipating near completion, and can definitely tell when their owner is satisfied. Hans was never able to do a single math problem without his owner in sight, who also knew the answer. And if horses can do that, dogs are even better, since dogs (along with dolphins, which is fucking crazy considering they don't even have arms) are the only animal that understands when a human is pointing at something, look at what they are pointing at, not their finger. Every other animal, primates included, must be trained to do this, dogs can just do it.
>>59030867>>59030877Now tell me about the shit crows get up to, I love this biology nerd stuff
I got a home with my partner Gardevoir and am deciding if I want to make it polyamorous with the Tinkaton.
>>59027082This person was alone, sitting at home, playing Pokopia, and instead of focusing on the game and immersing themselves int he lore, while playing the game and reading on the in-game lore, their brain reacted by thinking "This confirms that it's wrong to have sex with Pokemon!"Can you imagine how fucking terminally online you have to be to even start thinking about this when reading lore
>>59030763> The sinnoh tales come from better games than pokopia, Hahhahhaahahahahahaha >so their lore actually matters to me. Their lore is ass, though
>>59027130>Verily so, stop trying to justify inane groomer fantasies and cease having inane sexual fantasies towards magical critters from a children's franchise.Fuck off Fox. The boy is mine!
>>59030891Not that anon, but crows are genuinely scary with how smart they are. If you piss one (1) off it will remember you and somehow “communicate” that info to its friends and even later generations and you (and possibly anyone that looks like you) There are also recent reports of them b hunting together with wolfs and forming a relationship eeriely to similar to how humans domesticated dogs (except for the selecting breeding part obviously)
>>59030910They weren’t playing it, don’t kid yourself. They were watching a youtube video of it.
>>59030891I don't know that much about non-linguistic behaviors, unfortunately. I know broadly, corvids are really fucking smart, with similar logic and critical thinking skills as things like raccoons and somemonkeys, but they have much better memory, spatial reasoning, and eye for detail in line with birds, and a sorta unique, rudimentary ability to teach their offspring. They're also clearly able to communicate with a lot of detail, but that's not as impressive as it sounds when talking about birds or whales and dolphins specifically. Like, it's still impressive, but the kind of shit birds and ceteceans do with sound gets way, way crazier, so it's not a feat the same way it is with most other animals. Frankly, we just haven't done a lot of the research on their songs and sounds to make broad claims about them on that level, and it's possibly a contributor to why Alex has been the only animal in these kinds of experiments that ever exhibited true linguistic productivity (basically the ability to make up words, and correctly integrate them into existing language both sensibly and grammatically. You can make up a slur based on a newly revealed pokemon, and apply correct grammar to it almost, if not truly instantly, but this skill is one of the biggest filters to animal linguistic competency, and only Alex has been able to really do it.) Crows and ravens in general are mostly a really good example of what stacking a couple different moderate intelligence things together looks like, since most forms of intelligence feed into eachother. Shit like octopus, which are crazy smart in certain ways, but not very in others, can look way less impressive in action, outside of specific experimental environments, while you can just watch a local crow for a few days and realize how fucking smart it is.
>>59027082Based
>>59030910While eastern players were discovering that the Pokemon dialog is not only similar to humans but tend to talk a lot like their trainers, you get trash post like the OPs which gets instantly disproved the moment you open the fucking. Hell, Ditto just doesn't understand human speech and language, it can read also read it too given the letters aren't unreadable by the player.
>>59030325>>59030405>muh non-canon fanficsThe fact alone that these files were found within GameFreak's archive proves the point. It doesn't primarily matter what these stories entail, it matters that this mentality exists at GF. And it's likely that these ideas will pop up somewhere else. Which they did, considering all the other finds in the games and anime that you've conveniently skipped.>>59030933Still canon, that matters.
>>59032094> The fact alone that these files were found within GameFreak's archive proves the point.The only thing it proves is Game Freak are lazy faggots > matters that this mentality exists at GFIt existed in one pervert who was trying to sabotage Pokémon. Nothing like it shows up in any media that matters. It’s not even close to canon.
>>59030910Based
>>59032115Again, read what's below "LEAKED STORIES END HERE" >>59027459. Too many cases to merely call freaky coincidences.
>>59032115If they were non canon gamefreak wouldn't archive them.
Don't care. Still gonna goon to Glaceon's ass.
>>59032212If it were canon it would have been officially released instead of being stolen by a subhuman.
>>59032222thats's an animal
>>59032229It's a Pokemon not an animal. Pokemon has animals that are not Pokemon. Separate things
>>59027777>>59032222Quads of discord.
>>59032229So are humans
>>59032235humans don't walk in two legs
>>59032222Checkedhttps://files.catbox.moe/5uoh5j.gif
>>59032260Why did they make this dog so sexy?
>>59032264It's on purpose
>>59032271I wish glaceon was real bros..
>>59027082Doesnt it contradict the meowth thing from the anime? People will just point to the anime continuity to pass the harkness test on pokemons anyways
https://files.catbox.moe/c4gjtw.gif
>>59032280Anime ≠ games, you pleb
>>59027265Dolphins are nearly as intelligent as humans and are actually capable of asking for sex to humans on their own accord, im pretty sure at least dolphins would count as ok if the dolphin is the one to initiate consent
>>59032288>He hasn't heard of dolphin rape caves
>>59032288be aware of the effect of dolphin jelly
>>59032271this is just a normal card
>>59027082>Can transform in ANYTHING [anything] to entice female mons to stay>Turn into a human boy What the fuck did they meant by this?!?
>>59027082Really funny argument here if you break it down because this implies that anyone who doesn't speak the exact same language as you is not sentient.
>>59032288>>59032294>>59032296
>>59027082That just means they can't say no
>>59027698I don't think you know what that acronym actually means, you retard
>>59030532Hey dipshit, no it's not you absolute retard, and that is the exact reason why these faggot ass animal fuckers and pedos should be shamed at every opportunity. Lurk another three years before you post again.
>>59030910Not only that, he also says this is the one reason he likes the game.
https://files.catbox.moe/2vsd1s.png me right now while reading this thread
>>59030545>>59032370Explain >>59032260 and >>59032423 then.
>>59032458That's a cartoon drawing
>>59032423God I love pokecookie
>>59032271>freezing wind
>>59032498I would let Glaceon fart in my face
>>59032287It's all the one secondary.
Lapras understands human tongue.Weavile have a written languageI don't know what xhe is saying.
>>59032260>no cookieboooooooo
>>59032614https://files.catbox.moe/4qygad.webm
>>59027082I used to think the stuff in the Law was pretty self-explanatory, but it turns out people really did need to be commanded "you shall not do as was done in Egypt" because otherwise they really will do as was done in Egypt.
>>59027142thats good and all but psychic type pokemon can read your thoughs and are smart enough to under stand human speech.
Is it weird that mentally I find the dudes who wanna fuck a glaceon less repulsive than the out-and-out lolicons?
>>59032896Your human instinct to protect children reads lolicon perverts as a danger to irl ones, while Glaceon isn't real and the closest thing irl is a hunting animal with sharp fangs who can at least defend itself.
>>59032840No, we simply understand that the current and local law isnt a magic truth, so we need to hear good arguments on why it is like that before we accept it as legitimate."You shall not" and "That's illegal" are no longer enough like with religious morons of the past
>>59032896Not at all, that's the correct viewpoint. Human on pokemon is based and beautiful whereas pdf file shit is disgusting and wrong.
>>59032896I find both less disgusting than troons (though I recongnize that lolicons are as dangerous as them for children)
0 troons on epsiten island btw
>>59029068Zoroark is always an exception
>>59032919>"You shall not" and "That's illegal" are no longer enough like with religious morons of the pastWho have been completely vindicated by the fact that we're having this discussion in the first place. I've seen the atheists go from the "We can be good without God" billboards to discussions of child x and marrying dogs in a single lifetime. (When looking up photos of that old billboard campaign from my twenties, I just found out the original quote is from a book by someone surnamed Epstein... Of course it is.)
>>59032961Found it. These were everywhere back when Jews were trying to convince everyone the Founding Fathers were all lolicon communist atheists (to be fair, Thomas Jefferson probably was.) They even exported them to the Aussies. I remember these vividly from time online, so it was probably after 9/11. Now we're discussing the consent of dogs. And yes they're shaped like dogs, even if they magically talk.
>>59032991>And yes they're shaped like dogs, even if they magically talk.You're acting like the reason dogs can't consent in real life is their shape, rather thab their low intelligence ans inability to meaningfully communicate with us...
>>59033002Why are they attracted to dogs in the first place? It has severe bad overtones apart from the obvious horror of it being an animal since most furries tend to like variants of the large domesticated pet humans most have access to... The furry obsessions I've seen online are mostly canids- dogs and foxes and wolves.
>>59027130>>59027142you know that ninetales can communicate with humans right? A 200 year old kantonian nintales shown in the anime capable to use illusions to communicate with humans.
wait i just realized something. did we all forget that pokemon in gen 8 can do jobs for its trainer. actually pokemon are capable of doing paid work in the anime as well.
>>59027082Psys are smarter than their own trainers most of the time
>>59027282if your dog understands>sit>stay>come>gothen I'm sure a Pokemon can understand four commands too.
>>59033099They don't care anon. The reason people like them shit themselves over humanoid Pokemon is because they deeply need them to be dumb beasts because of their retarded headcanon even the entire series says they're not an this game makes it even more obvious.
a ninetales that preaches against human x mon relations while simultaneously getting dicked down every night by her human trainer is really fucking hot
>>59027088If most Pokemon can understand human language, why is it a noteworthy ability for Pokemon like Lapras?
>>59033113Your dog has been trained for years into doing soA pokemon will obey orders right after being caught in the wild
>>59033247Some dex entries are just nonsensicalWhen there is a choice between ignoring a few stupid dex entries or the whole ass concept of the franchise these dex entries contradict, the choice is easy
>>59030545There are AI Porn ads on top of every blue board.
>>59027082>The test literally has nothing to do with speaking the same language, but simply communicating, having human like intelligence, and being sexually mature.>The game where a random Ditto can reverse engineer humanity's creations in order to commence urban planning and enlist assistance from Pokemon ranging from local vermin to ancient species, who all communicate complex ideas at the same level as said Ditto, is supposed to somehow fail this because a random wild shitmon doesn't know what a geographical map is supposed to represent.I get not wanting to think about porn of your favorite wacky creator collector, but maybe they should have actually enjoyed playing Pokopia instead of vocalizing that they're fucking retarded.
>>59032115The guy "sabotaging" Pokemon is the lore guy for DPPT AND held a major role in producing PLA, which straight up had the "grandpa fucked a yokai" quest.
>>59027082How the fuck can anyone be stupid enough to conclude this when Ditto can VERY CLEARLY understand human language?
>>59027082>most Pokemonare wildthank you consneeding that the pokemon that live with humans do understand human language
>>59027082>literally whoThat said, I wonder if the guy was clowned on by other users for saying something so ridiculous out of the blue.
>>59032224Anon, do you have any knowledge on the concept of a lore bible?Documents that exist around a story, that have concepts, ideas, historical points, ect that never actually get put into a game, movie, show, or book, but inform the stories written for them?Somewhere out there is this document for games like, say, Elden Ring, a game that tells you very little, but has to have a reference document used to inform what clues to include in descriptions and explanations, because those descriptions and explanations are consistent. Just because these things aren't explicitly told to the audience, doesn't mean they don't exist, and doesn't mean they aren't canon to the story. In fact, the actual story of the game as presented is derived from that, not the other way around, so you could even argue that these things are MORE canon, because the things in this document are closer to the laws of the universe, while any actual story told off of it. Internal documents like this are what the presented narrative of a story are built off of, internal documents like this are assumed as true, more true than even things said in a game to get the plot over the finish line. The game is a secondary source, these documents are a primary.That doesn't stop being true when the internal documents make you feel icky, this is how collaborative storytelling works.
>Go to foreign country>Can't speak the local language>Get captured by animal control and live the rest of my life being legally considered non-human
what if it's a human in a pokemon's body?
eternal reminder that HGSS walking pokemon dialogue and affection benefits both state that all pokemon can "nod their head in understanding"
>wokeify the word "partner" to mean "person I fuck and/or date">canonize "first partner" instead of "starter" for Pokemon>say I can't fuck my Pokemon???
>>59032614>No mental illness! :(
>>59034294Thats like saying Rebecca Sugar’s Ed Edd Eddy and Steven universe porn is canon
>>59034326Lincoln eventually freed them.
Pokefuckers on suicide watch lmao
>>59033099Anon... It's called a labor animal... You can rent one right now...
>>59034592Umm anon... That was abolished in 1865
>>59034592so a labor animal can inspect a transformer station for a company called Macro Cosmos energy?or keep track of different signals and wavelengths for Macro net's network?or help with cooking meals other that putting the said animal in the dish??those are the job listings in pokemon sword/shield poke jobs.
>>59027082Fuck off, let us goon to monsters in peace!
>>59032288>Dolphins are nearly as intelligent as humans and are actually capable of asking for sex to humans on their own accordSo are 15 years old girlsIn case you havent noticed, the neo-puritan crew's definition of consent is much more complicated than just "willingness to have sex"
>>59027082mad troonie
>All the seething and denial ITTHoly Kek
>>59034578I will never stop letting female pokemon rape me
>>59034997Bold of you to assume they would rape you, unlike you Pokemon are not depraved sex addict who think about sex 24/7. If anything they will try to kill and eat you, not rape you
>>59035018maybe they wouldnt rape you. they rape me all the time. just dont be unattractive.
>>59034989
>>59035022>B-but they would definitely rape me guiseOnce again, Pokemon don't rape humans outside of your non canon fanfics, have you ever seen a lion rape a female tourist? Of course you didn't. The same applies to Pokemon which are basically the Pokemon world equivalent of IRL animals. Sorry if it breaks your gooner fantasies but it's true.
>>59035043actually pokemon manipulating and raping humans was confirmed to be canon. thanks for playing.
>>59034819One of the potential jobs involves literal software engineering with psychic types, iirc. Which means a fucking housecat (Espurr) can do it.
>>59035050one pedophiles' rejected hate fics made out of spite isn't canon.
>>59035060more canon than true sinnoh history?
>>59035050>He still thinks the scrapped stories are canonIt was scrapped for a reason retard, reminder that if it's not in the final product, it's not canon>B-butCope, you know it's true
>>59035090no its called hidden lore. puritan sneed.
>>59035098>B-but muh hidden loreOnce again, it was scrapped for a reason, you just don't want to accept it because you want your "Pokemon can rape me" fanfic to be canon so much that you are disregarding the fact that your shit Typhlosion/Piloswine/Slaking stories are non canon fanfics that were scrapped in early developement
>>59035121it was a window into how they all really think. secret lore.
>>59034600>He hasn't heard of the "leave in a loophole that lets you use 'criminals' and 'debtors' into forced labor, then make up a shitton of selectively enforced vague laws that criminalize 'idleness' and other petty bullshit so you can keep continuing forced labor going for a century after you were supposed to have stopped" hackngmi
>>59035145>it was a window into how one pedophile who hates pokemon thinks fify
>>59035173you could open a club called the cope a cabana
>>59035145The shape-shifting youkai i.e. badgers and foxes are a reference to Japanese myth and aren't really straight-up animals anyway though it's still gross. They exist alongside other weird stuff like humanoid ice-maidens and magic umbrellas. It's a Japanese cultural thing. I mean they're still gross but they're not really animals either.
>>59035173It's no use arguing with him anon, you could get GameFreak themselves to announce that these stories are not canon and he will still refuse to accept it because it breaks his gooner fantasies. Just let him live in his delusions alone and move on, replying to him is not worth your time
>>59035189copeoid
>>59035197Yes, cope, exactly what you are doing right now since you cannot accept that your non canon fanfics are not canon. Even Chris Chan the king of autists would have understood that
>>59035203>no udont you have homework to do junior?
>>59032288>are actually capable of asking for sexFalseDolphins don't ask for sex. They take sex.
Weren't those stories written by the loremaster of pokemon at the time?
>>59035240Nah, pretty sure they were written by a low ranking intern>>59035213Least obvious sharty raider
>>59035240A lot of Pokemon are based on traditional Japanese folk tales where a common motif is a ghost or magical animal falling in love with a human, and shapeshifting into a man/woman to marry that human. Then the human commits some form of betrayal which causes the magical entity to reveal its true form and vanish. These types of stories are typically used to teach kids to never break a promise or some other moral lesson. Some popular examples that any Japanese person would know are ‘Tsuru no Ongaeshi,’ ‘Yuki-onna,’ and ‘Urashima Taro.’
>>59035240>>59035412They were written by Suguru Nakatsui (machine translated as Yuu which convinced people it was a random woman instead), who was one of several people who worked on DPPt's game scenario, and was made the lead world designer for PLA. He's literally THE Sinnoh lore guy, which is why he literally just wrote real world myths with Pokemon in them to get the vibes of Sinnoh's ancient theming. tldr Diddyphlosion wasn't supposed to be literally canon, but Pokemon being yokai-adjacent is intended (hence literally every ingame event with a Froslass, and why we had a fucking Zoroark merc a dude as a trailer).
>>59035469>He's literally THE Sinnoh lore guy>lead world designer for PLAdoes his shit apply to any other regions, seems to me his ideas only apply to Sinnoh and only as fairy tales some Sinnohian tell each >tldr Diddyphlosion wasn't supposed to be literally canon, that's obvious, he just picked Pokemon that he personally hated and he knew Game Freak wouldn't lynch him for ruining >but Pokemon being yokai-adjacent is intended (hence literally every ingame event with a Froslass, and why we had a fucking Zoroark merc a dude as a trailer).this is true at least to an extent since those two in particular are on the nose yokai equivalents
>>59029615kek
>>59035412sharty is for underage fags like you
Meowth is not sentient. It learned to parrot human speech as a trick, but it doesn't understand what it's saying or comprehend what is said to it. Meowth is just an animal.
Alakazam has an IQ over 5,000 but it's not self aware. It's still just an animal and cannot consent to sex.
>I don't like lore, so it's not real.
>>59035675not all of those things can be true at the same time doe.
>>59034878Adult Dolphins are generally more mature and developed than a 15 years old girl, its not the same thing.
>>59027082>anime where they can totally understand human language isn't canon>only game canon matters>picrel>the leaked pokemon rape storiesPoképhilia will forever be canon even if it is also canonically unethical by our standards.
>>59027082They clearly didn't finish playing the game because Pokopia isn't even canon to mainline, which is to be expected because it's a motherfucking spin-off game from the Dragon Quest Builders 2 devs. Lol.
>>59035700I miss the days you could find dolphin porn on /v/
>>59033932Yeah if anything, Pokopia shows that Ditto is the first confirmed humanphile pokémon that loves humans so much, it transforms into humans better than it can turn into other pokémon.Whether Ditto can actually breed other humans is a mystery yet to be solved, but considering Suguru Nakatsui's other stories that include pokémon impregnating human women, it is very well possible.
>>59027082>>59035729What did reddit mean by this
>>59035776
>>59035729> but considering a retarded pedophile’s shitpost smut, ditto impregnating women it isn’t possible since that shithead has nothing do with these games and neither game freak no Koei agree with that faggot since it doesn’t happen in any official media, especially pokopia since this game is better than any Sinnoh game combined You had some typos, hope you don’t mind that I fixed them for you
>>59035553>does his shit apply to any other regionsHe's involved in the worldbuilding in 6 of the 9 generations, and the three regions he didn't touch are related to SInnoh in-universe anyways (Kanto, Johto, and Unova). He also works on dialogue and Pokedex entries, so his contribution to the series is pretty consistent at this point.>he just picked Pokemon that he personally hatedHe picked Pokemon that fit real world folktales and mythology, which is fairly obvious when you remember shit like the Fisherman's Wife is a cultural icon in Japan.>this is true at least to an extent since those two in particular are on the nose yokai equivalentsCorrect, however the very same yokai is capable of becoming amicable enough with a dog or a fucking snow cone to breed with them and is otherwise treated no differently. Which means either the vast majority of Pokemon have sapience independent of being a weird ass creature (which explains Pokopia and shit like TR Meowth pulling whole conversations out of "Pikapi"), or we have to start questioning the ethics of Pokemon breeding too.Personally I would accept the former since it's pretty obvious those drafts are supposed to serve the message of Pokemon being different but equal to humans rather than "actually Pokeporn is canon."
>>59035851>a retarded pedophile’s shitpost smut,The loremaster of pokemon for most of its life.You had some typos, fixed them for you.
They will never outright confirm sexual relationships, especially on a children video game.
What? No, it demonstrates that Pokemon are fully sapient. There's a language barrier, and some of them are shown to be able to understand human language fully. Anyway it's hotter if there's a gap of understanding anyway. It's better if it's a little unhealthy and becomes their new normal. That tension is inherent to everything that makes badkink fics good anyway. Let's not pretend more than half the weird bitches who talk about the Harkness test don't have a rape fetish anyway.
>>59036234"Adult romance bookclubs" make the average /vp/reon look like a fucking joke, aye.
>>59036285the kind of shit lonely women read from amazon bookstore....
>>59036021>loremasterrapefanficmaster
>>59036234>That tension is inherent to everything that makes badkink fics good anyway.any actual examples of this? im on the mood for some fics rn so
Imagine needing lore to justify smugly and blatantly to actual normal people that being a disgusting faggot ass animal fucker is an acceptable practice. Coomers are a blight and will continue to be shamed at each and every opportunity.
>>59036463pokemons arent like animals at all, not even a vaporeon resembles any real creature in existence, so why not go after real threats harming actual animals instead of calling people who fap to gardevoir zoophiles or whatever
>>59036463they can consent so what is the problem?
>>59036366And he says it's canonDon't like it, move on to a different franchise
>>59036522why should I respect it's opinion on what's canon?
>>59035851>ESL tries to "fix typos"lmfao
>>59036463>>59036526Do you even know what board you're posting on
>>59027142Psychic types do it. Zoroark has demonstrated speech in the games.
>>59027082is this even true or is this retard just spouting nonsense ON TOP OF ignoring the fact they have their own language, communicate complex ideas verbally, are just as intelligent as any other human(with some being outright many times moreso), and generally just being insufferable?
>>59036542I know what 4chan was and is, and it is a culture site not a porn site and even still it has boards dedicated to that shit to cut down on coomers from contaminating other boards as not to shit up discourse with shit like how bad some delusional faggot wants to talk about fucking literal cartoon characters.
>>59032329fnf
>>59032329just finished reading what the fuck
>>59036542nigga IS that shadman
