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Nightly Death Edition

What is Pokémon Sleep?
Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.

Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.

FAQ:
>How do Shinies work?
If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, a single Poké Biscuit will auto-befriend it.
>What should I spend my diamonds on?
Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, everything else is up to what's convenient for you.
>When should I use my items?
When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.
>What should I spend my sleep points on?
Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.
>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?
The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.
>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?
Nope! Pokémon retain any progress from when you last saw them.
>How do dream clusters work?
The higher your research rank, the more shards you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.

>Official Pages
https://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/
https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/
>Unofficial Wiki
[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.
https://pks.raenonx.cc/en
>Alternative Calculator
https://nerolislab.com/
>Simple Candy Calculator
https://candy.blspnm.com

**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**

Previous >>59010800
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I saw someone on my friend's list had a new icon. Is he available now?
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I love the islands that have a sleep style that just spawn NOTHING interesting.
>>59034744
yes, mew is available once you've got enough photos of mew
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>>59034744
After you fulfill the 25x Mew photos, Neroli will send you a message that Mew will appear during your next sleep session, very similar to how you get Darkrai. You don't get any photobombs from Mew on that day, so it's actually a little better if you encounter Mew in the beginning of the week... not that you really have much control over that.

>>59028893
>>59028944
>>59029005

I think I got a lot of 3x and even a 4x snapshot on Old Gold without any special bonuses going on. But I spent last week on Lapis and only got 2x snapshots most days despite much higher DP. A lot of the probably had to do with the boosted spawns though, as starters aren't worth as much as single-stage Pokemon until they're fully evolved.
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>>59034902
Basically Snowdrop. Even though it has at least SOME exclusive Pokemon now, they're kinda shitty.
Abombasnow
>Decent gatherer, but is overtaken in pratically all categories. Plus it's slow, so not great for berries.
Cetitan
>Technically an upgrade over Meowscarda, but there are plenty of good potato farmers already
Slaking
>Unique all-rounder gimmick, but ultimately doesn't provide much over Vaporeon or Heracross now
Weavile
>Great, but very hard to obtain
A.Ninetales
>Great too, but when your only preferred area is Snowdrop and chance Greengrass rolls, that's still not a great reason to go out of your way.
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>>59035711
I feel the same about Taupe. I think you can get everything big you need from green grass, cyan and OGP
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>>59036275
Even though Taupe is an earlier island, it still has a lot of strong things to go after, despite some cluttered spawns. There are a couple parallels to Snowdrop with regular Vulpix (to A. Vulpix) and Onix (to Sneasel/Weavile), but it also has all the other Fire starters, Larvitar, Entei, and even Trapinch. It's also a decent place to pick up Ghost types for the first time, before you get all the way to Old Gold. If anything, Taupe gets a bit outmoded (understandably) by Amber.
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JIST PICK UP SOMETHING SO I CAN PUT YOU FUCKERS TO BED ALREADY
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>>59034902
>I love the islands that have a sleep style that just spawn NOTHING interesting.

Ignoring outliers like Dozing Psyduck, Dozing Delibird, Snoozing Slowpoke, and Slumbering Babies, most types fit into one of the three sleep types.

>Dozing
Grass, Bug, Poison, Dark, Ghost, Dragon
>Snoozing
Fire, Electric, Normal, Fairy, Psychic
>Slumbering
Water, Ice, Flying, Rock, Ground, Fighting, Steel

For some reason Snoozing has one fewer types than Slumbering, so that's already an imbalance in distribution.
Despite that, Slumbering currently has the fewest Pokémon at 72, whilst Snoozing has 74 and Dozing has 78, ut that will shift over time.

Due to the way Pokémon types broadly fit into Sleep types, this does mean some islands heavily favour different sleep styles, such as Amber Canyon's Bug, Poison, and Dragon types all being Dozing.
Amber Canyon has 68 Pokémon available to find, 28 of which are Dozing, 22 are Snoozing, and 18 are Slumbering.
Snowdrop by comparison, has 65 Pokémon available, and 19 are Dozing, 22 are Snoozing, and 24 are Slumbering.
Snowdrop is greatly focused towards Ice types and Normal types in particular, whilst the pool of Dark types is pretty limited in comparison; only 4 lines available with Murkrow, Sneasel, Absol, and Spiritomb.

Many maps are deliberately set up that you can discover Pokémon that will be helpful in the next available map, however. For example, Taupe Hollow will help you find Tyranitar (or their prevos) and Houndour / Houndoom.

Plus Amber Canyon has Trapinch on Slumbering, giving you that Avocado farmer chase.
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Good morning sirs
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>wants to be fast but his mom won't let him
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GIMME A FUCKIN USABLE MON IM READY COACH
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>>59038414
Mew's main skill goes up to level 8, but only triggers the highest available level for the skill it triggers.

Only Dream Shard Magnet S goes up to level 8 atm, so if it triggers Energy For Everyone is only uses the level 6 effect.

>>59038008
Just like my shiny Toxicroak actually, also mono-ingredient.
I'll consider minting it when it gets to level 75 and unlocks Ingredient Finder M.
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>>59038414
I've used a few. Upgraded Helping Speed S to M on my Gardevoir, Helping Speed and Skill Trigger S to M on my Vaporeon, and Helping Speed S to M on my Golem... The Golem one was probably unnecessary.
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Mew's role doesn't seem quite as straightforward. Here are a few comparisons against similar Pokemon. Of course due to the random nature of Metronome, that isn't accounted for in its power totals. Even if you swap out Metronome for something else like Berry Burst or E4E, those have reduced activation rates and would be even lower than what's shown. I guess you get up to 5 candies per activation at level 8?
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I realized that Mew actually matches up rather evenly vs Clefable. Otherwise, it does an OK job for leeks, but that takes a lot of rolls you have to get correctly. Not being able to have a nature makes things a little rough. I wouldn't call it bad, but unfortunately Mew takes a lot of resources for pretty low peaks.
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Should I anhero?
My darkrai got Rsearch exp bonus, inventory s, ingredient s.
Mew's first eureka subskill was also research exp bonus
I am FUMING
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>>59041810
sorry bro, time to reroll your 3-year old account
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>>59041483
Yeah they're usually bad but damn
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>>59039926
>>59040776
I think the advantage is that Mew can fill a gap in your roster without having to wait to find and feed the right pokemon. At the moment I would attempt to roll him into a tasty rate booster. After a year of playing I've only managed to acquire 3 dedennes and none have been useable. The convenience is that in the future I could just swap his skill for something else and he would still have a role on my roster. Obviously it's expensive resource wise but it's better than nothing
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>>59043676
I'm tempted to go for Tasty Chance myself, since you can reliably work towards that, unlike finding a good Dedenne.
Heracross' recent buff to function as both Ingredient Magnet S and a low-level Tasty Chance, does mean I can run it in addition to my Dedenne for maximising Sunday cook-outs. or in general on Amber Canyon weeks.
Pic related is getting candy boosted next week.
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Salads week at Amber Canyon again, I realised I hadn't been making the Petal Blizzard Layered Salad, and I had pretty decent means to make it regularly now that I've got Blissey.
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>>59043676
Thinking again, given how much of an inflated "value" Dream Shard Magnet has, getting anywhere from 3-12 Pokemon candies per day on top of a fairly normal Pokemon's production level seems pretty strong as far as the devs are concerned. Given the option though, I imagine most people are sticking with Metronome for a long time.
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>>59044465
That admittedly does make it an attractive dream shard farmer, but granted the candies it gathers will only be for your active team.
So it may be better to run it as a general team aiming to maximise strength gains, rather than a dream shard farming team, unless you specifically want to raise the levels of your dream shard farmers.
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>Beginning April 2026, we will be holding an event—Latias Research!
>You can exchange samples of Latias Down that you collect during the event for Latias Incense.
>You can use Latias Incense to research Latias’s various sleep styles!

>Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be particularly effective during this event, so we recommend raising your helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty to get ready!

>More details about the Legendary Pokémon Latias and the event are coming in a later update.
>We hope you’re looking forward to this!
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>>59045685
Will it be a dragon or psychic?
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Time for some pre-bed stretching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5AMsYHzJg

>>59045995
99% chance it'll be dragon, considering we already have a psychic legendary and just got a psychic mythical. Latias/Latios are primary dragon as well.

Honestly a bit earlier than I thought it would start, but I guess we really only have a few months before we hit the game's anniversary.
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why
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>>59044004
>Rolled Tasty Chance S
Fuck yeah, together with Heracross and Dedenne I'm gonna be tasty-maxing my Sundays.
Provided I still need to unlock Mew's other subskills.
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are y'all throwing masterballs at mew?>>59046341
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>>59046714
It's a guaranteed recruitment the night after you get 25 snapshots
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>>59046714
at latias
then at latios
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>>59046798
and i wonder how long after latias will be latios, and how many masterballs i'll have
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Another comparison since you can pit Mew against practically anything. Even though you can't swap Mew's main skill in the calculator, most of the skills are in the "medium" category anyways, so the data is transferable for most other skills. Again, it seems roughly even in power, mainly balanced out by its ingredient strength, but also the easy-to-overlook bonus of 1-4 candies on each skill trigger. The main thing holding Mew back is its base speed, but I can understand why it doesn't just blow everything out of the water.

>>59046341
Huh, your Mew got the exact same rolls as mine (minus the seed).
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>>59046798
I generally don't recommend master biscuits, they're an inefficient use of sleep points for what'll likely end up being a disappointing spread.
Lots of biscuits for more recruits is a better strategy.

>>59047139
Back when they ran the Raikou, Entei, and Suicune events, they were about 5-6 weeks apart each for 2 week long events over the spring and summer time.
Raikou was March 2024, Entei was May, and Suicune was September.

>>59047359
It looks like everyone gets the same starting Mew; Level 27 with x2 eggs, x4 herbs, Skill Level Up M, Quirky nature, and Versatile starts with Metronome.
That's as compared to the fixed-spread legendary Pokémon, where their starting level and their ingredient slots can vary, but their five subskills and nature are fixed.
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>>59047981
Since Darkrai started with actually nothing, I figured they would at least randomize Mew's level 30 ingredient slot and level 10 sub skill to simulate Eureka skills having been used as a "head start". Herbs and Skill Level Up M aren't necessarily unwanted, but might have been more exciting if they were random per person.
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>>59047981
master biscuits are more fun
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I realised something, I can build a unique team with full tasty chance boosting capabilities.
Heracross' Bulk Up isn't as strong as Tasty Chance, but it gathers ingredients at the same level as Ingredient Magnet S.
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>>59047359
hmmmm, I was thinking about sending mew in an ingredient direction, something like leeks, but I forgot the candy bonus.
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>>59047981
>>59048973
Master Biscuits are worth if you're after Legendaries... I guess less so for Mythicals since they're more likely to show up on a regular basis now. Going by previous events, you should be able to get at least 2 through the event biscuits and incenses. Anything past that is far from guaranteed, with Master Biscuits being the most efficient way to actually get more. f2p players barely get enough points each month to clear the Poke Biscuit stocks however, so what you're catching should be pretty important to you.
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>>59049605
For New Moon events starting in April, I would guess that the "special encounter" is a single slot that will roll either Darkrai or Mew, but I'm hoping there's a general increase in special encounters to compensate for that.

Eureka seeds, you may have noticed appear to specific to each mythical Pokémon. Mew's Eureka Seed can't be used on Darkrai or vice-versa.
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Well, well, well, well, well
A Dragon and a skill specialist (since it debuts during a skill-boosted event). No idea what sort of main skill it could have.
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>>59049954
sound pokemon so if i had to guess, energising cheer?
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>>59049954
I was going to go to OGPP next week for the dream shard week, but it might be better to go to Taupe Hollow now.
I can get my area bonus up to 80% and focus on finding Riolu, Gulpin, and then Noibat.

The Skills Spotlight Week starts on the 23rd, and also has the mini candy boost bonus, so we've got 14 days of mini candy boost coming up.
The event is focused on encountering and recruiting skill specialists, rather than boosting the effectiveness of skill specialists, so you can run whatever works best.

Also, the name of this headline image file is "PickUpSkill".
I wonder why? Something connected to the Pickup ability?
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>>59050003
Since it shows up at Taupe and starts out with dragon berries, I imagine it'll be on the slower side with a decent to high activation rate. I'm kind of imagining it as a Charge Strength type, but having dragon berries sort of works against that idea since it's sort of like power supporting power. Maybe if they wanted to go with the static version of the skill?

>>59050009
Pretty sure "PickUp" just relates to the guaranteed hungry part of the event rather than it being related to any particular skill.
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Man I hate hunting good ingredient mons. Just so slow to get good rolls I swear
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>>59051213
about as hard as anything else... most types have some sort of tradeoff that makes it easier or harder to get the "perfect roll"
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nice amount of garmin watches now compatible

>>59051429
berry pokemon need the fewest things to be good. ingredient mons are also easy if you're not obsessing about the ingredient rolls
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>only 48 options of Pokemon
There are currently 224 Pokemon in the game, 100-something fully evolved ones. I suppose I don't care all that much since I don't have a Garmin (or any) watch.

>>59051462
I tend to be harshest on skill specialists and more lenient on berry specialists, but there are always only a handful of rolls that you'd be really excited about.
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Not really sure where I'll end up for Noibat's event. I'm not even completely sure that I'll want one, so I'm mainly looking at Treecko or Rufflet as secondary spawns. So it's basically between Amber or Expert, but it'll probably end up being Amber.
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>>59045995
Maybe Latias is one and Latios is the other?
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>>59052378
Unfortunately the only islands with both Treecko and Noibat are Greengrass + Expert, although Amber Canyon does have Rufflet + Noibat.

I would've considered Amber Canyon if my team and area bonus were stronger, but right now it's only a 35% bonus going into 40% next week, and my team composition has just been Salamence + Shuckle and ingredient specialists.

Taupe Hollow is an opportunity for me to try and maximise Noibat spawns owing to how strong my Entei team there is, and work with an 80% area bonus.
I'm interested in getting Riolu and Gulpin so I can try and get a dream shard magnet farmer going, I don't have one yet.
The only skill specialist I particularly want from Amber Canyon is Rufflet; stuff like Plusle, Minun, Togedemaru and Toxel are too specialised and rely on team composition. Dwebble might be okay, but I'd prefer a straight-forward ingredient specialist, or the Heracross I'm going to candy boost next week.

>>59053075
I think it's more likely that they're both dragon, since they can serve a specific role for Amber Canyon that way, and avoid overlap with Cresselia and Mew.

Another thought I had, albeit unlikely, is that Latias and Latios might have some kind of paired-skills gimmick akin to Plusle and Minun's Plus and Minus skills.
However that would break the "one special Pokémon per team" rule, unless they introduced an exception for Lati@s.
Their main series ability Levitate doesn't translate into a main skill, so maybe they'll do something with Mist Ball and Luster Purge instead.

>>59051821
It remains that for F2P players, berry specialists should be their priority since they scale the best with level, and fit best into the passive long term gameplay.
The one skill specialist any F2P player should aim to get is an Energy for Everyone S healer, and luckily there's a straightforward path to getting Wigglytuff that includes strategically saving up sleep points and using the premium trial to get two main skill seeds.
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>>59053207
I could also see them both having Soul Dew as a skill but with a differing secondary effect for each one
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How does the app knows when you are sleeping? What in the mossad shit is this?
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Is there any way to improve the chance of mew showing up in a photo? I'm at 9/25 and there's 16 days left..
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>>59053283
I really want to imagine they'll have a specific exception for "special Pokemon" and let you run both at the same time. Having some sort of Plus/Minus skill would also help the idea a lot. If not, I don't really know how they'll make them meaningfully different as they're probably going to be skill types, like all other Legendaries.

>>59053703
Mew puts a lot of value in 3* and 4* Pokemon, and from my experience, favors those over a certain tier/research value. Most fully evolved Pokemon in 3* or 4* styles will probably get a Mew and single-stage evolution Pokemon look like they can even get away with even 2* styles if you spawn them. You should be able to get about 3x Mew photos per day if you're getting decent spawns.

I was on OGPP for the first week and actually managed a 4x, but most other days were 3x. On the second week on Lapis (during the starter event), I actually averaged more 2x's since I got a lot of 3* 2nd stage starters or 1* fully evolved starters, which I guess don't really satisfy Mew's threshold. Even with a higher DP on the second week, I ended up with less on average, so what actually spawns is really important.

You do get a minimum of 1 Mew photo per day, so you should be able to meet it, it'll just take until the end of the event.
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>>59053633
It just measures motion in your mattress and bed sheets, that's pretty much it.
At least, if you use your phone or a Go Plus+ to track sleep. I don't know how the wearables like smart watches measure it, if it checks things like heart rate that it shares with the Pokémon Sleep app.

>>59053703
The simple answer is to try and maximise your strength gains and get as high of a sleep score as you can.
Higher Drowsy Power means more encounters and more valuable encounters, which translates to more candy, research EXP, and dream shards.
Next week, visit the island where you can manage your highest scores, and consider using a Good Camp Ticket and Pokémon incenses to increase your daily encounters; and chances of Mew snapshots.

If you don't manage to get the required snapshots by the end of the event, Mew will return in New Moon day events starting from April.
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>>59053703
Also I tried Expert this week, but so far I haven't had more than 1x Mew per night. I'm at about 2m Snorlax Power right now, but I've barely got more than a single 3* per night, so it's not a great place if you actually want the snapshots. I'll still probably end up with substantially more resources more due to the island's properties than Mew's bonuses though.

Expert is still going to be my preferred island for the upcoming dream shard week though.
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>>59054099
What if you already have Mew before next week though? I should be encountering mine tomorrow morning.
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>>59054580
You can still get Mew snapshots after you recruit it. The only thing is that you won't get any photos on the day you actually get it. And while Mew is supposed to be added to New Moon days indefinitely, that doesn't start until next month, after this Mew Snapshot event ends.
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>>59054834
Ah, alrighty then.
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Ugh you just HAD to be like this.
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>>59055771
at least it'll get to 100 sooner
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>>59055872
If only, Sleep EXP bonus is only +14% Sleep EXP to the individual Pokémon, it does nothing for candies.
A EXP boosting nature increases all sources of EXP gains by 18%

The last time the research rank cap increased was to level 65 in April 2025. We may be due another cap increase soon, I'm hoping it'll be to 75 so we can get that new sub skill slot but 70 feels more likely.
Point being level 100 unlocking may take years.
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>Expert Master 3 and still just a bunch of 1* Pokemon
Progression always seems so slow, but I'm definitely getting more shards than other islands. Fewer candies, I suppose.
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So since the shard event overlaps with the Mew Snapshot event, does Mew's +1000 shard bonus will overlap with the general 1.5x bonus of Shard Week? Usually it says same-bonuses don't stack, but + flat and a multiplier don't seem very big of an issue.
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— All Days —
• Dream Shards from sleep research ×1.5.
• The chance of each helper Pokémon’s main skill triggering will be multiplied by 1.25.
• The number of Dream Shards obtained through main skills will be multiplied by 1.5.
Note: If a main skill has multiple effects, only the number of Dream Shards obtained will be increased.
• The limited-time Mini Candy Boost function will be available.

>New Moon Day #11 also overlaps this event:
Event Period:
• Mar. 18 (Wed) at 4:00 a.m. to Mar. 21 (Sat) at 3:59 a.m.
Note: The day of the new moon is Mar. 19 (Thu).
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>>59058766
I didn't even know they made this art for the initial Voltage run apparently.
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>>59057659
Depends how Mew's +1000 shards works, I haven't really paid attention to it but it seems like it adds to the base shards you earn from an individual encounter.
The encounters are pooled together, and then bonuses like luck incense, dream shard bonus, and event bonuses multiplicatively apply to the base amount.

They're two different kinds of bonuses so I think they'll stack, it's not like a week-long EXP multiplier and a Good Sleep Day EXP multiplier.
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>Murkrow finally shows up half-progressed and it's hungry
Yup
I don't even remember having caught one before, but it's not in my box so it must have been really shit too.
Also I finally managed to get more than 1 Mew photo on Expert at around 280m DP
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Worth using a masterball on mew do you think?
Also caught a shiny mareep which is very cool but it's skills are all over the place.
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>>59059927
if mew is like darkrai and you're reliably going to see it once a month and can chuck a bonus biscuit at it, almost certainly not

i don't remember if i've ever seen a legendary outside of their events
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>>59059795
Oh, it turns out I DID have it in my box and somehow it's almost exactly as bad.

>>59059927
Not really. Mew by itself isn't particularly strong, and it should show up relatively often by it being added to New Moon events. Like the other anon said, Master Biscuits are best suited for chance Legendary Pokemon encounters, or just securing them during their own events. So if you really want a Latias or Latios or it's revealed that they're rather strong stat-wise, it might make sense to get some Master Biscuits ready for them on top of all of the event biscuits you'll get.
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>was gonna build mew for ingredients, maybe leeks
>first seed rolls STM

shit I guess it might be skills
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>>59060585
Honestly you probably should do skill build regardless, since Mew's skill always gives candies and sometimes gives +1/+2/+3 extra candies at skill levels 6/7/8.

I decided to reroll versatile and got very lucky with Tasty Chance S.

Mew can be a very good leek farmer, but I think that should be your tertiary goal after sub skills and main skill.
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>>59060585
>>59060760
I can't imagine trying to get specific ingredients for Mew. Your're trying to roll 1/7 or 1/8 with some very rare and expensive resources (Eureka Seeds).
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Candy Boost is going to be active for the next 2 weeks. Got anything to actually dump into? If all else fails, Darkrai and Mew are good options because you only ever get one anyways, so you can't really waste their candies, just the shard costs.
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>sleep with garmin watch on
>no sleep data
I guess it’s because my phone Bluetooth wasn’t on or something?
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>>59060064
Turns out me doesn't need a master biscuit? It got the berry skill though so he's staying in the box
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jTYasNuBWY

>>59062607
Are you sure you have a compatible model? Or that you set it up properly? It shouldn't need to communicate with your phone until you wake up and sync your tracked sleep, because the data is being stored on your watch.

>>59062624
Oh, yeah you don't need a Master Biscuit for your first Mew because it's guaranteed/free. I thought you were talking about future Mew sightings.
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>>59062726
Yes, it’s the 245 and it worked for the previous night.
Definitely an issue with the watch to phone connection because the Connect app doesn’t have sleep data either
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...do I train another one?
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>>59061412
I did it with Darkrai, but that was after I got his 3 skills down to what I wanted. Then i got all his ingredients as coffee
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>>59063490
No, raise a Salamence instead.
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Mmm purple.

I also don't remember the ingredient bonus having a second clause/bonus for ingredient types, though this is maybe only the 2nd or 3rd time I've even got it.
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>>59063490
It might be justifiable if you just want to run a full dragon berry farming team, like if you get a really, really shit roll on the other two berries at expert GG.

>>59063759
Yeah, ingredient specialists having the chance to gather 2 extra instead of 1 extra ingredient is part of the expert ingredients effect.
The other part of expert mode is that your main favorite berry also gets a 10% helping speed bonus, and +1 main skill level.

Generally speaking, the ingredient effect is the worst one as it only makes it easier to prepare dishes, and doesn't enhance your strength gains potential like the other skills can.
Much of that is down to how berry strength scales much better than ingredient strength scales with recipe levels; and that only applies to the required ingredients, filler ingredients only get the area bonus and tasty chance bonus.
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>>59063853
if you're not ingredient focused (like your usual weeks aren't running off berry single-ingredient ingredient pokemon) and instead running abc berry pokemon, or abc ingredient pokemon, the ingredient bonus can boost your strength significantly

depending on the pokemon you have for expert, the skills bonus can do literally nothing. at least you get ingredients with the ingredient bonus
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>>59063853
I just don't remember the chance for 2 ingredients, especially since they've also made events that trigger +1 ingredients. I suppose if it actually had changed though, it would have appeared in patch notes.

The ingredient bonus does enable a more consistent ingredient output, and it's proving to be pretty useful so far considering the constricted type selection. ABC ingredient sets for berry and skill types give you decent coverage and the boost is really helpful for actually getting enough of those ingredients to make recipes. Even though ingredient types generally have extra chance to actually get ingredients, +1 quantity really shrinks the gap.
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shit, i'll take it
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>>59065101
Ooh, very nice shiny

AAC tyranitar is actually quite adept at handling the ginger and sausage needed for keema curry by itself, if you pair it with an ABA Dragonite you can easily cook keema curry with just the two
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Damn, my Darkrai is just going SICKO mode and raping half of the team with energy down. It activated 5 times today and it could feasibly trigger another time before I actually sleep.
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>>59065101
>>59065149
I'd be tempted to use it solely because it's shiny, but it's only barely usable and far from optimal. On the flip side, that thing will have an absurd carry limit of ~70.
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Five new friends please!
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Damn, will I really have to settle for this? 40+ Pichusband this is the best so far.
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>>59066834
If you're desperate, a Pikachu is fine too.
Its main skill is irrelevant, and 7 pips for a Pikachu isn't so bad as you skip the 150 hours sleep requirement to evolve it.
Raichu would also skip the thunder stone evolution requirement.
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>>59067111
Sure, but that's provided you have equal opportunity to easily capture a Pikachu or Raichu. Spawns aside, it's just so much easier to catch 10 more Pichus. Stones definitely aren't an issue for me either, since I haven't been able to secure any rolls that use them yet.
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The dream Shard bonuses stack btw. Would be kinda weird if they didn't. Imagine planning overlapping events that don't function with each other.
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>>59068935
They made special mention of bonuses stacking with the mew missions event

Pretty sure they've done this with exp (good sleep day and some other event) and they haven't stacked
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>>59069253
Maybe that's why they decided on a flat bonus for Mew, not that they couldn't have just done additive percentages. Event bonuses have usually been percentage based, so the bigger bonuses just overrode any smaller ones. I remember besides EXP, there was a single instance with the Cressalia event that I think was like a 1.1x DP multiplier that was overridden during a Good Sleep night.
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Manifesting lots of shards
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I had to debate whether or not it would be worth using 7 incenses again for the mission reward.
This time it's 5x small clusters and at level 65 that's a little under 15,000 shards, which I guess is a pretty decent exchange. The only reason I was hesitant is due to the upcoming Latias event next month, which will give you extra Legendary materials for using Pokemon incenses.
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What are good ingredient gatherers on Old Gold Power Plant? The only decent mons I have on my team are all Pikas/Pikaclones. I'm swimming in apples and nothing else, so I can't cook much.
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>>59069963
The same ingredient gatherers you use to cook anywhere else. Outside of EX, I don't let the island influence ingredient mons I use.
If you don't have any good ingredient mons, work out what the best dishes you have the pot size to make per food type and work on getting good enough ingredient mons to make it.
Even if that means revisiting older islands, getting a solid core of ingredient mons is one of the best things to do, outside of getting a good E4E mon and a good tasty chance mon.
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>>59069489
The Cresselia event also had a bonus, that sleeping with Cresselia on your team would give a DP multiplier.
Can't remember that if one stacked with the day of event bonus or not.

>>59069862
I don't really pay attention to small clusters any more, and didn't want to burn incenses on that task if a future mission has a better reward.
I've got 500+ small clusters sitting in storage and gotten to the point I occasionally redeem a couple to save on storage space.

It's at the point that they should consider implementing a Cluster Boost event bonus, where you can redeem a small number of clusters for a boosted reward once per day.

>>59069963
>>59069983
I think they might be asking what the good ingredient specialists to try and find on OGPP?
The good ones are things like Grubbin family for coffee, Aron family for sausages, Shinx family for tomatoes, Farfetch'd for Leeks, Gastly for Herbs/Mushrooms, Wooper for Mushrooms, Pumpkaboo for Pumpkins, Sprigatito for Potatoes/Milk, Fuecoco for Apples, Quaxly for Beans/Leeks.

Grubbin is usually considered THE top priority for OGPP due to how important coffee is across top meals.
Much like Stufful at Lapis Lakeside is very important for farming corn, which is still relevant for some of the best dishes and many of the strong but easy to make dishes.
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What are you pumping with your candy boosts?
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>>59071042
My Heracross from >>59044004, I've boosted it 150 candies to level 34 already.
My remaining 339 candies can get it to level 45, but I have the handy candy to get it level 50 and enjoy that enormous inventory boost. After that I'll give it seeds, and switch to boosting my Mew with whatever boosts are left.
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>>59071042
Trying to get my BFS HB salamence as close to max level as possible for my upcoming master 20 amber canyon run, currently level 54, planning on doing all 14 days of boosts
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>>59071042
Getting my AAA dragonite to 50 for Ing M. Making him one step closer to "why can't I hold all these herbs"
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>>59069963
Old Gold is still one of my weakest regions, which I guess shouldn't be surprising given the lack of access for just about anything besides Electric types. But if you're just looking at ingredients, you can just ignore the types since they don't have penalties like on Expert. If you just want variety though, using Ingredient Magnet pokemon with high trigger rates let you cook any type of meal with only a little irregularity. Vaporeon and Heracross are really strong, or a Plusle and Minun pair if you actually manage to find good rolls on both.
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Latias event details officially announced:

>Event Period:
>• Week 1: Apr. 6 (Mon) at 4:00 a.m. to Apr. 13 (Mon) at 3:59 a.m.
>• Week 2: Apr. 13 (Mon) at 4:00 a.m. to Apr. 20 (Mon) at 3:59 a.m.

>Event Areas:
>Greengrass Isle, Lapis Lakeside, Amber Canyon, and Greengrass Isle (Expert)

>The following effects will trigger in the applicable areas during this event.

>— All Days —
>• Each time a helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty brings you ingredients as it regularly would, it will have 1 extra.
>• The chance of triggering the main skill of helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be multiplied by 1.25.
>• A limited-time Event Exchange will be available.
>• You can obtain event items through sleep research once per day.
>• Certain Pokémon will be more likely to appear during sleep research.
>• A few Pokémon of different sleep types will appear during sleep research regardless of your sleep type for that day.

>— Week 1 (Apr. 6 to Apr. 12) —
>• The carry limit of helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be boosted by 8.
>• Main skill levels of helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be boosted by 2 when they trigger.

>— Week 2 (Apr. 13 to Apr. 19) —
>• The carry limit of helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be boosted by 15.
>• Each time a helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty brings you Berries as it regularly would, it will have 1 extra.
>• Main skill levels of helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be boosted by 5 when they trigger.
>• A big Snorlax will appear, and it can be raised starting at a certain Strength.

>— Second Sunday of the Event (Apr. 19) —
>• Drowsy Power ×1.5

Also:
>• Latias is a Special Pokémon.
>• You can have only one Special Pokémon on your team.
>Note: There may be exceptions to this in the future.
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>>59072792
>Each time a helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty brings you ingredients as it regularly would, it will have 1 extra
I know they're boosting inventory, but this, as well as the later +1 berry , is such an odd bonus to have
It feels like they've tried pretty hard to stop people micromanaging the game, spending hours each day minmaxxing. But not doing that with this bonus will somewhat hamper your skill pokemon
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>>59072930
They never really cared about people minmaxing during the day. The whole hubub with skills though, was about people trying to get better gains by staying awake and interacting with the app rather than going to sleep.

For this event, seems like they just REALLY want to push skill types as viable gatherers. You should start getting some kind of idea of where you're going for the event due to these bonuses, since the second week in particular has some massive bonuses attached. Some Pokemon will outdo normal berry farmers and with the level boost, you could run a lot more things without having invested Main Skill Seeds.

Another important thing to note is that you'll basically be able to use Latias at full power during your second week, even just as a splash on the team.
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Ick and icker
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Just got this, is it worth using?
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Adding everyone:

7327-8357-5472
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These are all the skill types available that match Lapis and Amber. Not really a clear set team you can make if you want to skillmaxx, but it's either this or taking your chance on Greengrass/Expert. Of course ignoring those bonuses is also a completely viable option.

>>59073922
Definitely. Arbok isn't particularly great just for general use, but you'll pretty much need it for Amber Canyon or chance rolls on Expert.
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>>59074296
chance rolls on expert? What do you mean? I haven't started playing on the expert maps
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>>59072792
Something to note is that with this event, the berry bonus will be guaranteed at green grass EX. I have a BFS/HB/STM sceptile that if I roll grass berry with would absolutely steamroll green grass expert week 2. I'll have to do some calcs but I'm excited to try and prepare for a master 20 run.
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>>59074339
On Greengrass and Expert, Snorlax's favorite types aren't set, so it picks 3 random types every time unless specified by an event. Since on Expert, non-favorite types incur a 15% speed penalty, it's generally better to run favorite-type Pokemon on your team. So basically you want to have as many Pokemon as possible of all different types just in case.

>>59074396
I dunno about guaranteed. Expert bonus says it tries to roll something that doesn't double up against event bonuses, but Latias's event bonuses are still specifically for Skill types. Since those bonuses wouldn't apply to a large number of Pokemon, I'm fairly certain Expert bonuses will roll like normal and just apply the bonus override:
>If overlapping events trigger more than one of the same type of bonus, the larger bonus will be applied.
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>>59074601
Even if the bonuses are only for a specific type of helper, expert mode will still only roll for the bonuses that aren't being applied.

When we had packed portions giving ingredient finders +1 ingredient finding, expert mode still never gave out extra ingredients.
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Got up to master 10, thinnking about just keeping my shard generators in now for the next few days, and cooking whatever.
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>>59074679
Huh, I thought Expert just tried to roll other bonuses out of respect for not just overwriting with the same bonus, but according to this, if they rolled the same thing, they would stack instead.
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>>59075351
Do you actually have invested shard harvesters? Otherwise it would probably be better to just keep pushing tiers for more DP to spread into advanced 3* styles.
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>>59074296
Oh, I also forgot that Noibat/Noivern will be added under Amber Canyon. Though even if they end up being particularly good, it's tougher to get strong versions of the Pokemon on Amber than it is for Lapis. The overall power from a favorite Lapis team should dwarf one set up for Amber, both due to their base speed and sheer power of their skills.

Also due to how legendary materials work, Expert is probably going to be a bad idea for most people. While you'll get more materials for 2*/3*/4* styles, the steep spawn thresholds mean you'll very likely be lagging behind compared to if you had just went to a normal island. And that's even putting aside the ramp up to 8x spawns.
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>>59072792
There's a little more to this if you read the blurb.

>We’ve received reports of a red shadow flying at high speeds over some areas, including Greengrass Isle!
>A timeworn garden was found in the direction the red shadow was headed. We have heard that bits of Latias Down were left behind by the Legendary Pokémon Latias in the surrounding area!
>It seems that Latias has taken an interest in this timeworn garden.

It just suggests a special background when you visit Greengrass Isle for the event, rather than a new island to visit, but still kinda nice.

More importantly.

>Latias is usually found alongside the legendary Pokémon Latios.
>We have only come across traces of Latias so far, but we may eventually discover traces of Latios too.
>When that happens, Latias’s strong bond with Latios should help with our research!

This strongly implies that you'll want a Latias on your team when they run the Latios event later this year.
Much like having Cresselia for the Darkrai event.
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Mmm yummy
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>>59076183
Yeah, a lucario and a honch (I know he's inconsistent), but I'll see how today goes. if I don't think they're doing enough I'll do a bit more cooking focus
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>>59076807
Damn I forgot to optimize and got nothing
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I'm slightly tempted to go 1,000 hours with Trapnich just so I can secure the special friendship sleep icons for the entire line. Good thing I'm not that crazy. Also I don't think Vibrava even has closable eyes, so that icon wouldn't even be any different except for the star.
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Post your icons.
Also I've been noticing I haven't got any for a while. Probably because now that I have decent enough teams, I don't need to run the same Pokemon every week no matter what.
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AAAAAH JUST GIVE ME GRUBBINS AND SHINXS YOU STUPID ISLAND
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>>59078558
Still hunting for a good mushroom and honey farmer, as well as a better mono trapinch (mine is only IFM with BFS)
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>>59078622
>40+ Trapinch already
dang, dude
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I just realized that the New Moon event doesn't have an increased bonus on the night of the actual new moon, unlike Good Sleep nights. Good Sleep nights get boosted DP and increased spawns for the Clefairy family while New Moon gets a nebulous shiny chance increase... and a guaranteed mythical sighting among one of those three days, but it's random and not even increased on the actual night.
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>>59079617
Don't forget the "Pokémon are less likely to get full" bonus.
Not a "more likely to be hungry" bonus though, it's designed to make you use more items; biscuits and incenses really.

The guaranteed +3 friendship points on Darkrai encounters was a good change though, so you aren't so obligated to use your bonus biscuit on it.
My Darkrai this morning, coincidentally got full with 3 points to go, so the next time I see it is a guaranteed Eureka Seed.
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At least I'll be able to get it to 50 and evolved. EXP down doing its damage.
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Should I level this up?
I feel like I could find something a little better, maybe another form of a speed boost such as HSM or HB or maybe the nature
since the skill isn't the main attraction for Sceptile, I feel the Skill Level Ups are a bit wasted

or at least I can use it in the meantime
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>>59080327
why not evolve it earlier?
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>>59080728
Anon wants to sleep with it 1000 hours to get the special Good-NIght profile pictures, and then evolve it.

If you sleep 8.5 hours a day for 100 sleep score that's gonna be around 17 weeks for a PFP.

Pic related, I have the Good-Night icon for shiny Wigglytuff, but not for Igglybuff or Jigglypuff.

>>59080721
The level 50 spread is pretty ideal, it hits the three most important parts of BFS + HS boost + ST boost, and Inventory Up is always good on skill specialists.

Skill Level Up M+S at 75 and 100 is annoying, but if you operate on an assumption that main skill level caps will get increased around the same time those Pokémon level caps increase, you should be okay.
It feels like most main skill levels will cap at level 10 by the time level 100 will be available for a nice rounded figure, but we'll see how the game pans out.
If not, then the Skill Level Up subskills are about as relevant as getting a Dream Shard Bonus or some other dud skill, if you decide to go to max skill level via seeds now.
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>>59080833
don't you get the unevolved pictures at the same time if you sleep 1000 hours with the evolution?
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>>59080728
>>59080833
>>59080877
I don't actually plan sleeping 1,000 hours with Trapinch since that's 3-4 months straight; a big time and power investment for a few profile pictures. If it were may absolute favorite Pokemon/line, then maybe, but while it would be cool, it's too much trouble. I just didn't evolve it yet because since I'm not actively using it right now, I could put the evolution costs towards a "spend X candies" mission.

And you only get special icons of the exact stage that you have 1,000 hours with, so getting there with the Pokemon fully evolved is only going to get you the fully evolved stage. I don't really have confirmation, but I'm assuming evolving it each stage AFTER you log the 1,000 hours, that should satisfy the criteria for an icon of each stage since you technically had the 1,000 ribbon on each individual form.
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Seeded up my Heracross today.
The RP gain from around 1500 to 5591 is insane, and will spike when it hits 50.
And a bit more if I give him a subskill seed for Inventory Up M, which I probably will.

He'll see some action most Sundays now when I run him alongside Dedenne for tasty-maxing efforts.
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>>59081678
Heracross is currently the strongest possible Pokemon, according to RP. Stronger than even Dragonite, Darkrai, or any other Legendary. It basically has 2 full-strength skills, meaning it gets a whole lot of points for every level of its main skill.
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>>59080833
I guess I could use it in the meantime up to lv50 at best
but I feel like a helping speed M or a helping boost would have been better
don't you think?
otherwise, i'll level up this other one I have which seems to be just very slightly better
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>>59080721
Berry Burst is a big part of why Sceptile is so good though. Its speed + BFS is part of it, but the skill is what pushes its potential over other ordinary berry farmers and flat power skillers. Even though its not as effective if you focus only on the skill, 50x berries per activation is huge.
Treecko is a little hard to judge since it has a high ceiling and requires seed investments, but yours could be quite good with just a Sub Skill Seed. The ideal set is BFS + HSM + STM + speed nature; the only unfortunate thing is that yours doesn't really unlock many useful skills past the first 2.

>>59082416
Be careful about using raenon during event weeks to calculate power, because it defaults to applying all current event bonuses without a way to turn it off. So the results you're seeing right now are skewed with a built-in +25% skill trigger boost.
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Next week, we're immediately jumping into the Pokemon Skill Spotlight event along with the introduction of Noibat, so we should be getting concrete stats for it soon. After that, we actually get a dead week to prepare for Latias.
Amber is probably going to be your best bet for recruiting them since there are fewer Pokemon surrounding its tier there. You'll probably encounter more than a few Toxel and Dwebbles in its place, but that's preferable to Riolus and Wynauts. But if you're not particularly interested, you could also just go anywhere else and take advantage of the 1 free hungry Pokemon per night. As a side note, going somewhere with more difficult tiers means that there's less chance of the hungry proc going to random pre-evolved Pokemon.
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Relative newb. Is going to non-expert Greengrass ever recommended for these boosted encounter events, or are the encounter rates too low there for it to be worth it?

Second, my Mew is lv27 and has eggs and herbs as its 2 ingredients. Should I use my seed to re
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>>59083669
*use my seed to reroll the ingredient right away, or add another skill first?
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>>59083669
If you're new, then regular Greengrass is usually your best island anyways and you'll be able to hit 8x spawns the quickest. But usually if you're actually trying to capture the featured Pokemon, then the pool is too diluted to go after anything specific despite the boosts. The other benefit of going to the more specialized islands is that you be able to encounter the advanced styles too. Of course if you have trouble getting well into Masterball tiers, then that won't matter as much.

And Sub Skills up to level 50 are always top priority for Mew and Darkrai. Ingredients are probably the least important thing for them. It'll be many months until your Mew actually reaches level 60 for the last ingredient anyways, regardless of how far progressed you are in the game.
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>>59083735
It looks like you can reroll Mew's first ingredients before unlocking the third. The impetus is there because I don't have anything that can get Leeks yet
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I was looking at Helper Whistles as I was thinking about getting a handful of ingredients out of non-favored Pokemon on Expert. Turns out you can still use it on Expert to no ill effect since it doesn't include the speed penalty in the calculation. Conversely, it doesn't account for the 10% main berry speed bonus either.

>>59083770
If you were to do that, you're still rolling against 6 other ingredients though, not like you get to pick and choose what you get. I didn't get Leeks until I got my Gardevoir to 60, but now there are several other options to get them which will undoubtedly be more consistent and not use up some very expensive Eureka Seeds.
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>>59083770
Yes but you should not use those until you have his skill and sub skills straightened out. Don't waste it on ingredients first
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I'm going to have to buy a small bundle to keep spending my biscuits as I do. Hopefully the guarantees hungry actually lands on something I want. for once.
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Rolled a a pretty solid Mimikyu, how does he compare to the other bursters? I feel sceptile is still considered the best.
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>>59084615
goddammit I forgot, these usually want BFS right? Fuck
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>>59084615
>>59084738
Forgot again that raenon isn't accurate for this week, but it's still useful for a general comparison. On the plus side, a 25% bonus to skill rates is a pretty common bonus and this shows how builds with more skill trigger can even out under those conditions. Unfortunately all Berry Burst Pokemon do function best with BFS due to their low base trigger rates. I think the order is Sceptile > Mimikyu > Braviary, but that's mostly due to the base power of their berries since their average activations are all rather similar.
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>0/3 chocolate waffles got Sunday crit
>Dedenne only triggered twice this whole weekend

One crit, that's all I needed to hit M20.
Fuck.
1.25x skill trigger chance my ass. I can't wait to get my Mew set up with more skill triggers.
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Now that I'm level 65 is it ok to use my 100+ dream clusters?
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>>59085383
Use them when you're short on dream shards or need to free up bag space.
They'll appreciate in value if you manage to hold onto them until research rank 100, using them all at once will be less rewarding.
Do upgrade your bag space, long term it'll pay off and let you hold onto handy candy until you have something that needs it.
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So goddamn frustratingly close. I really needed an avocado farmer, nothing I have can collect it.
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>>59085383
I keep 150 S clusters and whatever M cluster I've got so far. Easiest things to use up are probably ingredient tickets and handy candy S. I have 480 item space unlocked, so the only other things are mainly type candies.
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>>59083735
>And Sub Skills up to level 50 are always top priority for Mew and Darkrai
What are the best subskills for them?
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>>59086013
bfs
helping bonus
skill trigger m
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>>59086134
Helping Speed M is also highly desirable.

Generally as subskills go, these are what you do and don't want.

>Most desirable
BFS - Direct upgrade to all Pokémon, comes with caveats for ingredient and berry specialists however
Helping Bonus - Universally good, whole team performs 5% better, works great on supports like E4E healers too
Helping Speed M/S - Universally good
Skill Trigger M/S - But ONLY on skill specialists; it's a waste on anything else in most cases
Ingredient Finder M/S - Like above for ingredient specialists

>Situationally good
Inventory Up L/M/S - Ideal for ingredient and skill specialists to maximise their overnight performance, and avoid going into Sneaky Snacking where they can only gather berries; not as useful for berry specialists but you can use it to optimise Sundays by forcing them to carry ingredients until Sunday whilst they stay in Sneaky Snacking (provided their main skill is not important)
Skill Level Up M/S - Saves on main skill seeds for F2P players, but at the expense of a subskill slot that could be used for direct stat improvements
Sleep EXP Bonus - Makes it easier to level a team, but doesn't directly contribute to strengthening your weekly Snorlax

>Generally unwanted
Research EXP Bonus / Dream Shard Bonus / Energy Recovery Bonus - Despite being gold skills they don't actually achieve much, and maximising strength gains for higher DP ironically produces better sleep research reward yields overall.
Research EXP Bonus has a minor use case if you can set up a team of 5 and use it to rush to max rank when there's a relevant event bonus, or on Sunday nights where you're cashing out the week's efforts.
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Noibat / Noivern details out.
It's a Charge Strength M skill specialist, dragon type, with Apples / Leeks / Sausages.
How dull, it puts it on the same tier as stuff like Ampharos or Golduck.
Despite being a very fast Pokémon in main series, it's on the slower side of speedy Pokémon with a 2700s base helping frequency (like Flareon, Tyranitar, Pikachu, Lucario).

However, it has the potential to outperform Salamence, with a BFS skill max build. Performs worse without BFS by a big margin.
Pic related is an Amber Canyon team build with all currently available final evo dragons, plus Shuckle on E4E duty.

Oh and Noibat is a 5 pip Pokémon, Noivern is only 12 pips, that's actually quite generous they could've made Noibat a 7 pip encounter.
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>random Raikou
Farewell, Master Biscuit.
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Ok, I'm skipping the incense mission this time around.
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>>59086602
I half expected this >>59050331
Unless they were planning on making a new type of skill, we haven't got a pure strength Pokemon for a while.

Noivern's ability strength is pretty much on par with Ampharos and Espeon, which is to be expected. It's still a 2-stage evolution vs a 3-stage and a 2-stage with a sleep time hurdle respectively, which is strong. And as a bonus, it pushes ahead with its berry strength.
I wouldn't have expected it to break any conventions to capture though, since most standard-evolution Pokemon in the game follow the 5/12/20 structure.
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Found this good boy. Was surprised to see that if it had bfs instead of helping bonus, it would only be very slightly stronger.
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>>59088448
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>>59088448
>>59088451
Are you using rarenon to make a comparison? Because their default for HB applies the maximum helping bonus stacks instead of an individual 5% bonus. You can fix this in the options pull-down by setting the # of stacks to 0. BFS should typically much stronger than HB just because berries naturally make up a lot of a Pokemon's strength.
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Got a third solid dwebble today, I haven't considered investing in one yet but thinking about not having a good oil or avo maker, would it be worth it? it would be a lot of seeds, and I don't know if the current event is making it look better than they are.
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>>59088832
Even though Crustle's ingredients are all broadly useful, I don't think it's really worth using over other normal ingredient Pokemon. Also by the nature of its skill, it won't be super reliable if you're just looking for 1 of 3 ingredients. Unfortunately it's too big of a required investment unless you have access to Main Skill Seeds via Premium Pass.
There aren't actually any bonuses going on with the current event, so raenon should be accurate to normal usage again. With the bonuses in Latias's upcoming event however, you'll be able to use one to full effect without needing to put in seeds.
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>>59088625
Oh I see, that puts it 11k behind. Still good I think.
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>>59089063
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>>59089063
I am a premium user regrettably, so I have no problems with seeds. I have been immensely struggling to get an oil farmer, have a good potato farmer and haven't put in much effort yet to get a good avo farmer. So getting two out of useful ingredients isn't too bad, but you're right it is coming in at an inconsistent rate.
Oil is a huge killer for me but maybe I just keep saving seeds, maybe I'll roll a good noibat and just keep hunting for an oilmon
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>>59088625
I swear Raenonx needs to fix that HB bug, the input field is designed to default to 0 but is not initialised correctly, since you can't null that field.
I work in software testing and basic shit like this bugs the fuck out of me.
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>>59088451
you put main skill seeds into a no bfs berry pokemon?
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I took a screenshot of my results on Expert last week. Because I was surprised that I was pulling ~600k per day. Turns out these totals don't actually distinguish between skill strength gains versus (I'm assuming) berries. I was curious to how many times Darkrai actually triggered and contributed, but the sum just adds up to the overall total.
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Oh yeah, Latias comes with some spawn boosts during her event.
Lapis has a good amount of "filler" and Amber is missing a lot of the stronger skill types (even if it has Heracross), so neither option is really appealing. In order to maximize spawn quantity/quality though, I might end up going to Lapis for the first week. At least I might be able to pick up a Treecko/Gallade/Dedenne.

I don't really think the skill-type boosts are really going to come into play in the first week, so you can sort of ignore them. The second week gives them +1 berry and +5 skill levels though, so it'll be worth taking advantage if you can. Darkrai and Mew also count since they're "all" types, as will any Legendary (including Latias) if you managed to at least get decent rolls on any.
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>>59090003
if you go lapis you can start using latias straight away which is fun
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>>59088832
I would use the middle one. STM+HB is great, you get a free skill level, and ABA will have it contributing a good amount of avocados at 60. The last one is great too, but HB is worth a lot, and it'll be producing more potatoes than anything else, which I assume isn't your goal with crustle.
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First one
It's not going to get any better from here is it?
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I've got a bunch of eevees but I'm not sure what to turn them into
I've already got a good healer so Sylveon isn't as needed
I've seen Espeon get recommended but i'm not sure which one can even be turned into it
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>>59090418
Turn 679 into Jolteon, trash the rest
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No one-and-done for me this time around.

>>59090371
Like all skill-focused builds, I still wouldn't go for anything less than skill + skill + speed in the first 3 skills + nature. Noivern also performs at its best with BFS, so there's that too.
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>>59090851
Wouldn't BFS interfere with his overnight collection? I assume he has low inventory due to being a 2 stager
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>>59090418
Basically the only Eevees that are really worth anything are Flareon (kinda), Jolteon, Vaporeon, Espeon, Glaceon, and Sylveon. Of those, only Vaporeon, Espeon, and Sylveon really care about their skills. The other ones really just work as berry farmer substitutes for when you're short on types; Umbreon and Leafeon unfortunately aren't good for that either.

2, 3, 13, 16, 18, and 20 are all worth considering.
2: wants a Sub Skill Seed, but a decent hybrid that could go for berries and skills
3: wants a Sub Skill Seed, but could do well as a skill type (this one's a little iffy)
13: another decent option for a skill type, though I still might push it towards berries
16: a low-investment option for a skill type
18: best option for a berry farmer
20: decent option for a skill type, mostly because it's shiny.

It really just depends what holes you need to fill in your roster.
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>>59091175
Overnight collection is rather inconsequential for pretty much anything but an E4E battery. Noivern's base inventory space isn't massive, but it's pretty decent at 23. And while a full skill build isn't far off from a BFS build power-wise, the BFS one will have a more consistent power output and benefit a LOT more from favored berries.
As you can see from this comparison, a good BFS Noivern will cap out around 4 hours, whereas the non-BFS Noivern gets a few extra hours before converting to sneaky snacking. Given the time, it's pretty likely for the BFS Noivern to pick up at least 1 skill overnight, and the non-BFS has a pretty good chance of having 2 skills most of the time. The thing is that BFS gives you about 10k power throughout the day, but an extra Charge Strength M trigger is only ~7k, so while it's not strictly necessary, BFS is still going to be better in most situations.
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>Ingredient Finder
hmm...
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>>59092299
I wouldn't really consider it. Mew has a niche as a possible mono-leek farmer, but it's locked out of maximum ingredient finding or skill trigger chances because it has an immutable neutral nature.
And even if it could have an ingredient maximising nature, it still falls behind the best possible Farfetch'd.
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>>59092639
It's already pretty hard for me to justify trying to raise a Mew after I managed to get BFS + HSM on Darkrai. Despite how much I would like to use metronome, Mew is a pretty low priority on my list anyways.
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Not bad I guess? But I'll keep looking
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>>59093471
You know what? It's actually possible to run a no-skill trigger build. You'll still have to pump in skill seeds no matter what though.
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>>59093279
I rolled Extra Tasty on Mew, and that Versatile skill granting bonus candies is a nice bonus.
I keep getting burned on Sundays with extra tasty chances failing with Dedenne only proccing like twice on the weekend, so building up an extra tasty maxing team has become a priority for me.
My Heracross hit 52 today and is already doing a great job with ingredient gathering an tasty chance boosts; I've somehow hit three extra tasty meals between seven cooks this week already.
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Finally got my 10th Rufflet.
Thanks...
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Somehow, I managed to spend both of my neutralizing mints on Poison types with BFS + HB.
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>>59096516
I'm holding on to my last mint until we get confirmation of more

I have a mono honey cutiefly with ifm + double speed, but it's got a -ing nature and honey has consistently been a bit of a bottleneck for me, but I'm waiting to use my last mint on it because I could always find one that won't need a mint by the time we get another mint

My first mint was used on my mono HB/INVL/IFM aggron with speed down nature, then a lil bit later the speed adjustment patch happened
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>>59096669
Soonest we're going to get them is probably the anniversary. I also imagine we'll get 1 per year and we only got an extra one as an introduction bonus, like crack. Ultimately, the mints really aren't super useful that you'd want tons of them around since natures are still a pretty sizeable part of a Pokemon's possible power. The positive side of a nature being stronger than S sub skills.
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was hoping for oil but considering i have no good wurst farmer i might keep it for now
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>>59097402
Keep it in case it gets a buff, but right now Toxicroak is so shit at Sausages that I wouldn't bother raising it.
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Still trying to decide where I'll end up for the Latias event. It still takes me 3 days to get up to 8 spawns on Amber and Expert, and advanced spawns are pretty much reserved for the end of the week.

It might make sense to try and frontload Latias down and also just check out the special event background by just going to regular Greengrass, at least for the first week. Hitting M20 there is or much guaranteed, so I'll have to check the spawns again. It might be a tradeoff between fewer 3* styles, but more evolved and single-stage Pokemon at the end of the week.
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>>59098364
The reward yields for Expert GG are too good to ignore. For the slow start you get, the trade off is the end of week yields end up being far stronger.
The number of Latias Down samples you receive will correlate to the sleep styles you find, and their usual research EXP / dream shard yields.
However on Expert GG, using Charizard as an example, past Dream Coin and Pokémon Material events had +1 yield for 2 star sleep and +2 yield for 3 star and 4 star sleep.

Regular Greengrass also limits a lot of Pokémon to 1/2/4 star sleep, reducing your opportunities to find valuable 3 star sleep.
Whilst 4 star sleep is more valuable than 3 star, only one Pokémon can get it per sleep session (with exception to Ditto).

As a reminder, the 2 week Latias event starts Monday April 6th.
I'm going to be setting up a 2 week Good Camp Ticket on the Sunday night slightly after normal bed time.
I'm planning to go to expert GG, and will re-roll berries if I get something really, really bad.
Unlike the prior legendary beast events, the Latias event does not have fixed favorite berries; the focus is instead on skill specialists and giving them an ingredient quanity buff on all days, and a berry quantity buff on the second week; and bonus skill levels when main skills trigger.
This will be a unique situation where you might want to exclusively run skill specialists, including ones you haven't invested any main skill seeds into. Week 2 will have any Dedenne running Tasty Chance S Level 6 at minimum.
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>>59097777
i mean getting it to 30 aint a big investment. i literally have no sausage farmer, nil
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The makings of greatness is in there somewhere...
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>>59099067
Yeah, but that's provided you're getting the same quantity of spawns. Like you might get two nice 3* spawns on Expert with a bunch of baby 1*'s, but then with the same power, you might get four 3*'s on regular, plus all of your other spawns are also at least 2*'s or are rarer Pokemon in comparison. Either way, I think it's safe to say that Amber won't be the best choice for getting Latias down, as it both has harder tiers and doesn't receive the Expert bonuses.
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Despite being guaranteed hungries this week, they've went to nothing but Pokemon I either don't need any more of, or pre-evolved Pokemon. Makes me think GCTs would just piss me off.
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>>59100703
I've gotten a hungry noibat every day
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>>59100703
>>59100801
I had a hungry Noivern on the first day, so I got it in one with the bonus biscuit.
Not a worthwhile one though, this morning I think I had a hungry Growlithe but there's no need for something like that on my team.
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>>59101589
Pretty sure that Arcanine will actually be the strongest Fire berry farmer during the second week of the event. Otherwise it's still really strong and one of the better berry subs to work with Entei.
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Taking from normal skill Pokemon that would feasibly be run without (or very little) skill trigger bonuses, these are the highest performers according to berry gathering gains. I think Gardevoir is the only one omitted that can actually compete with these, but I wouldn't run one with the same skills... unless you had a good Cressalia and were running it in a Psychic team.
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I am getting an impressive amount of noibats, it is draining my ball supply quite a bit.I think it'll be worth it.
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>>59102275
Granted that Arcanine can work great as part of an Entei team, but I already have my BFS Typhlosion and Ninetales for that.
Then I have an E4E healer going, and the last slot usually goes to an ingredient farmer so I can make some decent dishes during the week.

Whilst the Latias event turning skill specialists into pseudo-all specialists for a week is interesting, it's not something we can really plan for like it'll be a regular thing.
That is unless, Latias and Latios have a really funky main skill that grants skills specialists temporary BFS or something wild like that, like 4 hours of +1 berry gathers.
We've had things like BFS berry specialists gathering 4 berries at a time during an event, so who knows what they'll introduce next.

>>59103376
The freebie biscuits from events have been very generous recently, so I've somehow made it to the end of March without needing any of the regular sleep exchange biscuits.
I might grab them anyway so I can be better prepared for the Latias event, it won't just be Latias that I'll be chasing, and saving great and ultra biscuits towards that will be the better call.
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>>59103376
>noibats draining your balls
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>completely forgot I got another Noibat this morning
No wonder.

>>59103376
On paper, Noivern is among the current strongest Pokemon. It has good berry strength, is even better with BFS, and Charge Strength M lets it maintain a lot of its power even without favored berries. The only real caveat is that you still need to level its main skill.
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I think this is the worst shiny I've ever got.
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They should make meals grant 33.3 sleep xp to the team so leveling outside of candy spam isn't so gay.
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had a dream where they made a live action pokemon ranger movie and it's an idea that's been stuck in my head since
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>>59105580
Pretty shit due to the trifecta of shitty gold subs, but I'm tired of getting fucking shinies with EXP up natures personally.
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Toxel thought it was part of the team
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>went to Taupe to try getting a Sableye
>mfw not a single one spawned so far despite the event boost
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>>59106155
Turns out "slightly greater appearance boost" is slight and when it runs against "greater appearance boost", it tends to get drowned out. Especially so with single-stagers which are already typically rare.
What do you even want a Sableye for? Trying to be prepared for when it gets a buff?
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>>59106287
I just want a DSM user and I like Sableye, even if he is worse than Swalot for the role. Plus I don't really need the other boosted mons in this event.
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Oof. Also getting plenty enough Noibats, but none of them have been hungry. I just need the 4* Noivern and I've completed the sleepdex too.
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>>59106287
Mega Sableye will happen. Megas will happen. Shut up non-believer.
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>>59107530
Maybe like a third of the Pokemon in the game could Mega evolve, which is also about... a third of the original Megas.
How would that even work? Some extra perk attached to the 2k ribbon? They drain energy at double the rate? Only active for a few hours, once per day?
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>>59108073
Maybe a paid timer that costs candies/dream shards & give you a frequency boost. Maybe even a type change for certain pokemon (ampharos and sceptile become dragon for example)
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>>59108102
I can't really see them adding more candy and shard sinks, as there are already plenty of quite steep ones in the game. I also can't really see them introducing a new feature only to lock it behind 2,000 individual hours of sleep time. At most, there might be some kind of additional bonus associated with the ribbons.
I feel like they might use Mega Energy like from the AZ game, where it slowly accumulates and then you can activate it on command, one Pokemon at a time. And then you wouldn't need to rely on individual mega stones or whatnot for every single species that can mega evolve. Only question is how you would accumulate it.
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How's blaziken? I feel a fighting berry isn't that special, but shiny BFs, seeded HSM, and the mixed bag that is speed up/xp down felt ok.
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>>59109791
Fighting berries aside, Blaziken is one of the strongest berry farmers just in terms of actual quantity of berries gathered.
Also Xmas Eevee is apparently the strongest regular Normal type berry farmer, over Raticate and Vigoroth before it gets its ribbon.
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it's possibly optimal to only visit the community research on sunday morning so you have a full batch of research coming in on monday to get manes
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>>59110160
Maybe, but it sounds like the level of optimisation that might get you a couple extra Latias candies when you've bought up all of the meaningful incenses and biscuits, and the main skill seed you can usually get.
These event exchanges have always been pretty well balanced that you can consistently get the most important items by the end of the week, if you've getting high sleep scores and high drowsy power each day.
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Lots of hungry Pokemon today. I was about to be disappointed as usual after it pinged Chansey and Noivern first.
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Guess it was worth using one of my Great Biscuits. Little unfortunate in the skill down, but I can still use the Mudkip.
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>Tasty-maxing team raises tasty chance from +20% to +90% after lunch (guaranteed crit)
>Short two honey needed for waffles after midnight

That's fucking wild.
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Well, i came out of last week with two shinies (one quite usable), 3 quite usable but not incredible Noibats (the kinda of usability that makes you wonder if you want to invest), and a pretty good togdemaru if that will ever mean anything.
Now for a week of 10% bonus GGXP before latias
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>buffs
but also
>"buffs"

Basically nothing changed.
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>>59112352
Togedemaru is at the very least, a good option for Steel berries if it has BFS. The investment requirements for its skill however, are pretty steep for not that much gain, since the bonus scales directly with main skill level. Capping out at 6x skill-only helps is pretty rough since it's unlikely that most skill types would even be able to hit a skill in that few attempts. Depending on the Pokemon, that might only equate to a couple hours of helps and the bonus is pretty useless on most berry and ingredient Pokemon anyways. They ought to buff the skill considerably, if not rework it.
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Latias details are out.
>Dragon type - Dozing
>Main Skill "Heal Pulse" (Energizing Cheer S) - Picks two random Pokémon and does Energizing Cheer S plus gets extra helps (similar to Extra Helpful S).
>If Latios is on the team, the Extra Helpful S-like effect becomes stronger.
>Latias and Latios are special Pokémon, that as an exception can be on the same team as each other
No mention of what Latias' speciality is, but it's assumed to be a skill specialist.
It'd also be interesting if Latios turns out to be the first special Pokémon that is not a skill or all specialist, but we'll see.

>>59112805
For some reason it's always the same few single stagers like Absol, Kangaskhan, Pinsir, etc that are getting these buffs.
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>>59113724
inb4 latios
>helping pulse
>get helps from two pokemon and heals them a tiny bit
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>started the game with the goal of getting a shiny ralts
>got two shiny slowpoke this week, so I now have three

I feel like I'm being taunted.
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>>59113744
Plus and Minus have different effects (though both cooking related), so I'd expect Latios' main skill to differ.
Particularly since Latias and Latios have always emphasised a defense/offense difference.
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>>59113724
>Have to roll for and raise both a good Latias and a good Latios for them to be good
No, thank you.
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>>59114051
Might also have the potential to be the most busted team since they're dragons, but yeah the investment will be fucking steep.

A mono-dragon team of Latias / Latios / Dragonite / Salamence / Noivern (or Altaria) would be possible and still manage your healing needs.
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>>59113724
Wonder how many biscuits it'll take to seduce her. Latias biscuits give 6 bars apiece, but I don't know how many incenses they'll give out and I'm still a dozen sleep styles short of unlocking Lapis.
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>>59114221
An app update is coming March 31st, so it'll get data mined and we'll know what to expect from next week's event.

Things like the weekly event missions get data mined quickly, but it will probably follow a similar structure to the previous legendary beast and Cresselia events where you have two waves of event rewards, with the second week having some additional cheaper rewards.
Latias and Latios will probably need 30 friendship points (pips) like the other legendaries.
Mew will need 25 pips for its eureka seed like Darkrai does.
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The last event was fun. Had lots of hungry guys every morning. The peak was this morning when there were 6/9 hungry pokemon. Too bad 5 of them were noibats
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>>59106155
Update: 0 Sableye spawns. And I was using GCT too.
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>>59114221
Legendary Pokemon have all been 30 pips, so a maximum of 5 special biscuits.
In these types of events, 1 recruit is pretty much guaranteed and most people will get at least 2. Depending on how lucky you are with crits/hungry procs and how quickly you can progress on your chosen island, you could get 3 or 4 while also having enough to exchange for most of the other goodies in the event shop. Aside from the special biscuits and incenses, there's usually a Main Skill Seed and sometimes an evolution item.

The key is just to use as few Legendary incenses as possible, ensuring your can feed it at least 2 special biscuits if not more when it shows up. You get a rebate for using those incenses, but they're pretty expensive, so you can't just keep spamming them every time. It tends to be the last 3 days of each week when I actually have enough points for the incense and biscuits to use. Higher tier sleep styles give a bigger rebate (and Research EXP and Dream Shards), so it's worth waiting later in the week for that as well.
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>>59113724
It seems almost guaranteed that both will still be Skill types, have generally poor gathering abilities without BFS, but theoretical top-tier production capabilities in their very specific purpose-built teams.

I'm sure they see the data that not many people are spending biscuits on or using those Pokemon, which is why they're trying to make them stronger and more attractive as recruitment targets. Of course the underlying issue is that they're such a pain in the ass to recruit, making it not worth the trouble most of the time, regardless of their actual production capabilities.
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Oh, I didn't get a push notification about the maintenance timing. RIP dinner.
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The month is about to end again, so make your monthly exchanges while you can. If you were planning on using a Master Biscuit too, this is your last chance to grab an extra for Latias.
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Latias missions and item exchange have been datamined.
Details here courtesy of Raenonx.

>Week 1 missions
Basic 2: 15 samples
Ultra 1: 25 samples
Ultra 4: 40 samples
Give out 15 biscuits: 50 samples
Use 7 incenses: 50 samples
Stick to your bedtime 3 times: 50 samples

>Week 2 missions
Master 1: 20 samples
Master 3: 30 samples
Master 5: 40 samples
Use 100 candies: 50 samples
Stick to your bedtime 3 times: 50 samples
Cook 12 times: 50 samples

>Item Exchange Week 1
>Made available on Week 1, through Week 2
2x Latias incense for 80 samples each
7x Latias incense for 160 samples
2x Latias biscuits for 60 samples
10x Latias biscuits for 120 samples
10x Handy Candy S for 12 samples
10x Dragon-Type Candy S for 12 samples
15x Dream Cluster S for 10 samples
1x Main Skill Seed for 350 samples
3x Friend Incense for 45 samples
3x Energy Pillow for 20 samples
100x Latias candy for 2 samples
999x Latias candy for 6 samples

>Item Exchange Week 2
>Made available on Week 2
2x Latias incense for 70 samples each
2x Latias biscuits for 50 samples
10x Handy Candy S for 10 samples

Snorlax starts with 309,675 strength on week 2; that actually starts it at Master 4 on Greengrass. Previous events it was 125k iirc.
There's also a 1.5x DP multiplier for the final day of the event (Sunday 19th).
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psychic type?
I feel like i'll just catch one, maybe two with the biscuits, not worth bothering for a good roll especially if Latios needs to be on the team for max efficiency
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>>59117021
Latias is confirmed to be a dragon, Latios is unconfirmed but I'd be surprised if they made it psychic when we already have Cresselia and Mew.
Cresselia is designed for psychic teams whilst Mew is designed as a wild-card.
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Still waiting on that AAB, BFS Larvitar with speed, ingredient finder, and decent nature. Then it can get immediately boosted to 50.
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>>59117700
BFS is apparently not that great for Ttar and the focus should be on ingredient farming.
I need a good dedicated ginger farmer, but my BFS ABA Adamant Salamence is currently doing a decent job of ginger gathering on the side for Amber Canyon salads weeks. It ends up being enough to make the occasional Ninja Salad.
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>>59117782
For something that I'm investing that many resources into, I won't take just a plain ingredient farmer. Tyranitar is the type of Pokemon that I will put in for the whole week when I'm using it, so every extra berry will count for a lot.
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>>59118166
For a dark team with healer support, Weavile, Houndoom, Darkrai will be your most relevant strength contributors. Charge Strength M on Houndoom is surprisingly very relevant.
Tyranitar really does work best as an ingredient farmer, and a Darkrai team doesn't specifically need a unique variety of dark types for maximum effect like helper boost teams do.
You can still run a BFS Ttar but it can be underwhelming, I made the mistake of investing in an ABA neutral nature Ttar just because it has BFS.
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>>59118247
There's basically no reason not to have BFS though. The only thing that changes is that you might get some extra ingredients overnight, but once its inventory inevitably fills up, BFS is continuing to push more power for the remainder of the night and day.
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So raenonx has datamined a few things of note from the new update

Firstly, there's a new ditto sleep style, "mew sleep" which is rumored to be a guaranteed encounter for everyone on their April 1st research (so morning of the 2nd for most folks)

Next, speaking of mew, we have confirmation of how the mythicals will be handled in regards to new moon day. Island exclusivity! Darkrai will still show up during NMD, but ONLY at snowdrop. Mew will appear at every other island.

3rd, we have the values for latias new main skill. At max skill level 6, it heals 2 members for 22 energy and gives 4 helps. If Latios is on the team, the number of helps increases to 7.
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>didnt turn on sleep tracking yesterday night
>turned it on by trying to turn it off this morning
do i just let it run and do research tomorrow with this or can i still do it later today?
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>>59118771
Wow, spoilers, man.

>>59118930
Your tracked data is for the day that you started tracking, so in most cases, people are getting their research for the previous day. So if you try to "make up" your lost research on the same day, all you're really doing is taking the next day's research early instead. It's pretty much best to just take the manual sleep data input to get back your energy for the day and get an extra daily biscuit for when you do your next research for real.
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>>59118771
Making Darkrai Snowdrop exclusive seems like a mistake. Players already actively avoid going there, and Darkrai is primarily useful for Snowdrop as it is.

Level 6 Heal Pulse is like splitting an Energizing Cheer in two (2x22 energy versus 1x44 energy), but the unboosted extra helps is only 2x4 versus the 1x12. Boosted 2x7 is superior overall though, and that's before knowing what Latios is capable of.
Overall though Latias' Heal Pulse is strictly better than standard Energizing Cheer with a bonus Extra Helps effect, but the unpredictability who gets healed (even with the lowest energy bias) may not make it preferable over running any E4E healer you probably already have by now.
That, and both finding a worthwhile Latias AND Latios and investing in them is going to be very difficult.
If you can pull it off though, you might be benching any Shuckle you have for Amber Canyon. Shuckle is strictly a healer, whilst a Latias probably has BFS prospects due to (probably) decent speed and strong dragon berries.

>>59118930
Probably better to manually enter sleep data for the session you forgot to record. Recording a false sleep session completely out of schedule will wreck your sleep mid-point and end of week sleep rating.
Plus if your (assumed) Go Plus+ is completely still for too long, if you have to leave it unattended, it'll invalidate the sleep session after so many hours and not count the hours you want.
I've not had any nights where I've failed to record sleep, so I've not actually tried manual sleep data entry yet. Maybe one day it'll happen.
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>>59118771
>Darkrai will still show up during NMD, but ONLY at snowdrop
This is incredibly retarded. If people were already discouraged from chasing Darkrai then this will outright kill any remaining desire.

>At max skill level 6, it heals 2 members for 22 energy
It being split into two members reduces the chances of energy overflow, but my experience with Energizing Cheer is that even after the buffs it WILL still target the same fucker several times in a row while leaving others in the red. And if Latias doesn't hit herself with the skill early in the day then your team will be fucked for the rest of the day.

>If Latios is on the team, the number of helps increases to 7
This sounds good until you realize that you will have 2 Skill specialists in the team (unless they make Latios be Berry or Ing), meaning that there is a good chance that all you will be getting from a trigger is 14 berries unless you get a god roll for one that has both skill boosts and BFS.
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It's ironic, but it seems like they're using Snowdrop as a place to hold Darkrai for those that REALLY want him. Instead of phasing him out or rotating them completely, he'll be available there while Mew shows up in its place until they introduce a new Mythical.
That said, Snowdrop could use a revamp. It was the final island available at launch, but clearly they did not have enough variety of Pokemon to properly populate it. Even in the main games, Ice is a woefully slim typing. While snow is a cool backdrop, as an environment, it seems to be incredibly limiting.

Anyways, here are my suggestions for some spawn shuffling.
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Darkrai only being at Snowdrop, ONLY on NMD, is pretty rough. I feel if you haven't already gotten progress on him, do you really want to keep going to snowdrop every NMD week? idk, its pretty rough.
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>>59119422
>This is incredibly retarded. If people were already discouraged from chasing Darkrai then this will outright kill any remaining desire.
Too add insult to injury this month's New Moon Day will happen during the Latias event and Snowdrop is not part of it. So no one is getting any progress on Darkrai this month.
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>>59118771
>Firstly, there's a new ditto sleep style, "mew sleep" which is rumored to be a guaranteed encounter for everyone on their April 1st research (so morning of the 2nd for most folks)
That's hilarious if true.
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In fairness, Darkrai has shown up for everyone, every month, for about a year now. On the other hand, I would still prefer Darkrai showing up because so far it's had a better use cases and I still have a couple slots that could be unlocked. Not to mention my first Mew seed bricked.
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So I just started this last week. What should I be doing, what sort of pokemon/natures should I be using?
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>>59121595
Just catch anything you see. There are some species early on you can ignore. Any dream shard magnet skill specialists you can safely ignore at the beginning. Don't try to catch evolved forms, unless hungry and cost-effective, base forms are better to raise most of the time.

As for natures, almost everything appreciates speed up, and ingredient mons and skill mons want ingredient finding and skill chance natures, respectively. Exp up is good for berry mons or for temporary investments to save on candy and dream shards.

As for *what* to do, that depends a lot on what you catch. Early on just try to use what you have to make a named meal dish every meal, as well as sleeping with pokemon you want to raise. Check in at least 3 times a day so you can at least make breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day.
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>>59121595
If you JUST started, then you basically just use whatever you can. Fast Pokemon that can gather more than 1x berry at a time are more useful, but you don't get too much choice in all the random spawns and stat rolls. I would just focus on using Berries and Ingredients specialists. You can ignore Skills specialists early on, because those take extra resources you won't have much access to. You can check what specialty a Pokemon is by looking at the top of its stat sheet. Basically Berries types get +1 berry, and Ingredients types get extra ingredients for cooking.

Pretty much any of the starters are good choices or Caterpie as it can evolve at a low level, which really improves how fast it gathers stuff for you. Just keep in mind progression is super slow in this game, so just take it easy.
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>>59121851
>You can ignore Skills specialists early on, because those take extra resources you won't have much access to

There's one exception to this.
You want to get an Energy For Everyone S healer ASAP, because they fulfil a global role that benefits all teams on all islands.
Pokémon Sleep features an energy mechanic, and keeping Pokémon at 80% energy or higher keeps them at peak performance.
You replenish their energy by sleeping, but Pokémon will hit 0% energy by day's end if you don't replenish it during the day.
A Pokémon wakes up at (up to) 100% energy (105% if they have a special subskill), and loses 1% energy every 10 minutes.
Every 20% below 100 (each 200 minutes), they slow down and gather fewer berries and ingredients, and use their main skills less frequently.

At the start of the game, you'll encounter Igglybuff and Eevee.
Igglybuff is the recommended starting Energy for Everyone helper, since it's easier to set up as your healer.
It can evolve twice, which grants you two main skill levels without needing main skill seeds (or if you're lucky, Skill Level Up subskills).
The caveat is evolving Igglybuff into Jigglypuff requires 50 hours of sleep, and then evolving that into Wigglytuff needs a moon stone. You can receive one for free through achievements and progress though, otherwise it's 1400 sleep points.
Eevee has 8 things it can evolve into, with Sylveon being the alternative fairy type E4E healer with a higher investment cost since it can only evolve once.

Since getting main skill seeds is infrequent and expensive, you need to absolutely sure you have the right skill specialist before you invest in it.
It needs a nature and subskills that promote main skill chances, and optimally also boosts helping speed.
Energy for Everyone S at level 6 replenishes all Pokémon's energy by 18 points each time it activates, and it can replenish energy up to 150%!
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>>59122183
The other thing to mention is actually getting main skill seeds.

Pokémon Sleep has a premium subscription and a two week trial you try once per account.
There are monthly regular and premium sleep exchanges, that restock on the first day of each month.

The strategy here is to save up enough sleep points and start your two week trial nearer the end of the month, so you have access to two stocks of main skill seeds (and other useful items like the subskill seeds or biscuits).
Don't waste your sleep points on dream shard clusters; the game gives those out frequently enough for free.

The other thing I recommend is saving up the diamonds you earn to expand your ingredient bag space. It starts at 100, and can be exchanged up to 800 in increments of 20 for 120 diamonds each.

The in-game real money transactions are not particularly great value for money, but the premium subscription is an exception to that since it gives so many meaningful bonuses; most notably a flat +100 sleep points every day, a stronger daily bonus biscuit, access to the premium item exchange, and monthly gifts of useful items like Good Camp Tickets.
GCTs are especially useful for important events like the upcoming Latias and Latios legendary events.

Sleep at its core is a resource management game, so being frugal with limited resources is key to success.
Be selective about which Pokémon you recruit for team building, and which you invest your finite dream shards and candies (and skill seeds) into.
For ingredient specialists specifically, there will be cases where you can justify levelling them up to level 30 and never giving them another power up, just because you need to establish a decent ingredient farmer whilst you continue to look for an optimal ingredient farmer.
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Latias bundles are honestly pretty eh. Decent deal for the Last Chance S and maybe M if you really need some extra down near the end of the event.
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Which berry types are you still searching for?

I have about 2/3 types covered by actual good or above average rolls. Still missing: Flying, Fairy, Rock (we need a more accessible rock berry farmer or more rock Pokemon in general), Steel, Electric, and Ghost. Even among the types that I have, I could use better secondary options too, like Musharna to Xatu or Primeape to Blaziken.
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>>59123608
Rock, steel, ground, ghost, fairy, poison and flying
Everything else I have good bfs coverage.
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borf
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>>59124187
I suppose the similarities aren't very surprising considering how few berry Pokemon there are for those types in the first place.

Rock only has Onix and in the same vein, Steel only has Steelix. And you also need them separately, so most players likely have neither.
Ghost just has Banette, though BFS Gengar competes surprisingly well against it. I suppose you could also include Mimikyu despite being harder to capture than both the others.
Fairy really only has Clefable, which essentially only spawns a few days out of the month even if it's been in the game a long time.
And while flying has Dodrio, Doduo has surprisingly few spawn locations. Just Greengrass and Lapis for some reason. You could also count Braviary here, but requirements for a good one are a lot tougher.
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Mew seems pretty fun to use. What subskills/ingredients should I gamble my eureka seeds on for the next 2 years?
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They're either considering other ways for mythicals to show up, or are changing how they show up on New Moon nights. Right now it's basically guaranteed, but you don't know which of the 3 days it'll show up and you could potentially get a sighting every day or just the usual single sighting.

>>59126021
Both Darkrai and Mew pretty much want the same thing: BFS + HSM + STM. Pretty much everything else is up to personal preference, but Mew's activation rate on Berry Burst and E4E are reduced, so maybe you don't want those if you can help it.



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