>another gimmick for gen 10can you fuckin stop.
>>59038464>gems weren't a gimmick
>>59038464They're all so trash
Generational battle gimmicks were a mistakeCould have been tolerable if they had just stuck with the first one and expanded on it further in gens afterward, but the moment they decided to just throw them away and create a new one for each generation, it becames obvious they give zero shit about world building and consistency.
>>59038464>NOOOOOO STOP INTRODUCING NEW GAMEPLAY EVERY GAME MYST BE THE SAME REHASHED SLOP!!you don’t actually play PvP so why do you care?
>>59038503>esl seethekek
>>59038503>gimmickslop is better than consistentslop!>PvPslop is better than PvEslop!
All of these are just gamefreak being too scared to introduce new permanent evolutions
>>59038492Gimmicks are one use per battle.
>>59038503>game play How is artificially propping up shillmon to make them more broken new gameplay?
>>59038514>new mechanics to experiment with is better than a game that’s exactly the fucking same as the last oneCorrect. This is how literally every video game series works.>>59038526Good thing they learned from Megas and every new gimmick works on every Pokemon rather than just shillmons then, huh?
Gimmicks would be better if we didn't delete the last gimmick each generation. Imagine if we had all of them at once? Would be sick.
>>59038492Gems are still in the game tho
>>59038552You’re getting that with champions.
>>59038552Then they wouldn't be gimmicks anymore, they'd just be updates to the battle system.
>>59038552but anon everything must be new and different; they can't just refine and improve on the the core game everything must be temporary and never be mainstayswhich is why megaevos exist and aren't just permanent evolutions
>>59038559I can't wait for the first meta with Megas, Zmoves, DMax, Teras, and whatever Gen 10's gimmick is. Will be chaotically awesome.
The Gimmick is sex.
>>59038464They won't ever stop making gimmicks because they help personalize a generation for the next batch of kiddos who want to feel like they're getting something brand new and "just for them" when they start getting into Pokemon.They started deliberately doing this in SM onward because the Gen 5-6 era had a notable dip in popularity among Japanese children since they viewed Pokemon as a franchise for geezers ala Dragon Quest due to being nothing but nostalgiabait or reiterations of gen 1 concepts with nothing new outside of designs and names, which is why Yo-Kai Watch managed to completely enrapture JP kids for awhile.
>>59038636Personally am excited for the return of z moves.
>>59038517>mega evolve>switch it in and out 5 times>have gems equipped>they work once for one turn
>>59038673You can reuse gems with recycle and run them on multiples mons. They're consumable items like berries.
>>59038464im sick of the gimmick stuff too
>>59038694None of that makes them not a gimmick.
>>59038694>run them on multiple monsNot anymore you can’t, they removed all of them but Normal Gem.
>new generation is revealed>the new battle gimmick is shown later>people delulu themselves into believing it'll help weak pokemon (it rewards strong pokemon)>it's replaced by something else the next generation afterAnd the Ekans eats its tail.
>>59038701Whoa, that's crazy! Good thing I can still run Boomburst and Recycle on my Chimecho in order to keep popping Normal Gem boosts!Interesting how I can't use Recycle to use another Mega Evolution, Z-Move, D-Max/G-Max or Terastal in turn-based battle, though, hmmm...
>>59038707Tera helped Articuno unironically
>>59038713I’m not disagreeing with you that they aren’t a gimmick, I’m just saying they were nerfed in gen 8 (or 9? I forget).
>>59038714Yeah, but it helps Flutter Mane, Ogerpon, Urshifu, Calyrex and Iron Crown more.
>>59038725d-delete this
>another gimmick for mariocan you fuckin stop
>another gimmick for donkey kongcan you fuckin stop.
>another gimmick for kirbycan you fuckin stop.
You can't just make the same game forever, nintendo like to introduce one time gimmicks per game per generation to keep their game fresh.How in the fuck you cannot understand this simple concept?
>>59038744But that's just one gimmick
>another gimmick for zeldacan you fuckin stop.
>>59038751>Super Copy Abilities in Return to Dreamland>Hypernova in Triple Deluxe>Robobot Armor in Planet Robobot>Friend Abilities in Star AlliesNah, Kirby's been using gimmicks for awhile now.
>>59038734>>59038738>>59038744>>59038752Someone's upset
>>59038758>someone its exposing OP retarded opinionfix'd
>>59038701Does VGC have item clause or something?
>>59038751>But that’s just-ACK!!
What do you think the gimmick will be in gen 10?Miniature pokemon instead of gigantic ones?Double one of the pokemon stats per battle?
>>59038758You left one out >>59038464
>>59038763>eslDie
>>59038492no, but triple battles were
I think the new "gimmick" of gen 10 will be a new pokemon type. And no, sound is a stupid idea.
Gimmicks are cool and gens I-V are retroactively worse for not having them
>>59038764Yeah. BSS as well, I believe. I guess you could use multiple of them in-game if you want.
>>59038492Gems don’t have the big button mechanic
>>59038807Every move you select is a big button.
>>59038798Gen 1 gimmick is catching monstersGen 2 gimmick is held items and dark/steel typesGen 3 gimmick is pokemon abilitiesGen 4 gimmick is special/physical splitGen 5 gimmick is.... I don't played this gen.
>>59038812Hidden Abilities, allowing old mons to get new tools for their kit.
Megas>Specific upgradesZ-Moves>NukesDynamax>Generic Giga ModeTerastal>Literally changing your typeWhat could WiWas gimmick be?
>>59038812None of those are big button mechanics.
>>59038823Thanks anon, knew I was missing something>>59038828Who cares if there was a button or not?
>>59038824Super abilities.
>>59038811Not compared to the gimmick button, which is often larger than the other buttons, has it's own separate part of the UI (usually shared between gimmicks in Gen 7 and the Sword prototype we have), and also has the shit marketed out of it. By these metrics Wonder Launcher is a gimmick, but gems aren't as they're functionally identical to a number of other items. To put it another way, when they add the gems to Champions (at least Normal Gem) they won't require the Omni-ring or be limited by regulations that consider most other gimmicks.
Ohmori has been trying to tweak the battle gameplay with mechanics for all Pokemon.If Masuda stayed in power we might have just kept Megas as a recurring feature (see Let's Go).
>>59038824Giving my favorite Pokemon broken special snowflake moves
>>59038843Either way, the method is the same. Already-good Pokemon get even better, so there's no incentive to use the gimmick on weaker Pokemon in PVP because you're handicapping yourself for no reason.
>>59038855Eh, you still saw underpowered stuff utilize the gimmicks just because they had a special niche they could abuse. It’s rare though and tends to work only if they outright block off the most broken stuff.
>>59038829The shiny button you have to press for Megas/Z-moves/Dynamax/Tera is what makes them gimmicks while items, abilities, and damage categories are normal mechanics.
>>59038464Megas > Tera > Z-Moves >>>> dynashit
>>59038829The big shiny button is the sole thing they all share and the differentiator between them and everything else. Don’t be obtuse.
>59038734>59038738>59038744>59038752>nabbitcuck is back
