>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generation>storyline considered 'deep' and 'thought-provoking' by children at a third-grade reading level (at best)>wasn't good enough to merit a 'definitive edition' like crystal or ultra sun/moon but some suckers still paid for the same game twice>introduced more uninspired and gimmick Pokémon than any generation before or after>memorable NPCs few and far between; can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?>on the whole - a mediocre dumpster firepic unrelated because i'm not wasting precious hard drive space on a .png of the garbage that was Black & White
>>59041908wivwav out and everyone forgets about this
>>59041908>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generationlol + didn't read the rest
>>59041908>crisp spritesget real
>>59041908>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generation'crisp'Also XY had handcrafted backgrounds for each battle while B2W2 didn't have any>storyline considered 'deep' and 'thought-provoking' by children at a third-grade reading level (at best)No pokemon games have good stories>wasn't good enough to merit a 'definitive edition' like crystal or ultra sun/moon but some suckers still paid for the same game twiceWeren't XY the highest rated pokemon games?>introduced more uninspired and gimmick Pokémon than any generation before or afterBest set of new pokemon since Gen 4>memorable NPCs few and far between; can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?play the game more then>on the whole - a mediocre dumpster fireSheer fucking kino
This boards nothing but shitposters recycling the same dogshit threads years on end
>>59042141Read the last line anon.Also what's a good story according to you?
>>59041908>can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?Unequivocally true for Kalos unironically.>UnovaClayton(because of driftveil memes)Skyla(porn)Drayton/IrisEntire e4 is memorable because the unova e4 theme is really popularArguable Alder, I see people claim he's a pretty underrated championRoxieIris again as a champion>KalosKorrina because of mega lucarioMaybe dresna cuz shes a milf
>>59042158ooft you got me>Also what's a good story according to you?SMT V
>>59041908>memorable NPCs few and far between; can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?BW and XY are on opposite ends of the spectrum here. Most of the BW leaders have story roles outside of their gyms.
>>59041908Keep in mind their reason for not givinh XY a third version is because they wanted to release S*n and M**n on the 20th anniversary, the two Alola games that would have the most handholding and cutscene slop in the franchise so far.
>>59041908>the crisp sprites of the prior generation
>>59041908>>59042452
>>59042204“story roles” and it’s just the gym leader railroading you to go somewhere KEK
>>59041908>>59042452>>59042457
>>59042458sure..
>>59042477I like how the game had to pretend the sages weren’t all just useless retards the entire game just so they can force an ebin avengers moment with the gym leaders
>>59042156Yeah these butthurt faggots will never change the general opinion that games starting from x and y are garbage
>>59042504Yeah it’s nice to have ad populum as a coping mechanism for the fact that I can’t actually prove XY are worse games
>>59042504>will never change the general opinion that games starting from x and y ar-ACK!!
Keep seething faggots your shitposts won't amount to anything, you're nobodies and you're not worth my time
>>59042518>>59042532Ok but why do people never actually list it in their top 5 pokemon games?
>>59042655Ok but why can’t you actually prove the game is bad?
>>59042655I list it in my top 2 pokemon games
>>59041908>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generation>Gen 5>Crisp anythingGen 5 had pixel tearing out the ass lmao
>>59042673>3d ruined Pokemon designs, added an unrecoverable workbloat and tech debt that lead to the inevitable dexit, and began the performance crisis pokemon has been dealing with for the last decade>Customization ruined protag designs>Team Flare was so hated GF essentially stopped making real Evil teams>Where Unova was linear with exploration, Kalos cut back even harder, almost ever route is a genuine straight line without even the barest hint of exploration>Game is paced like shit, you blitz through 3/4 of the gyms in less than 2 hours>Multiple blatantly unfinished areas, Zygarde nowhere to be seen>Began the de-rpgification of pokemon as a series with Exp. All completely breaking the concept of a level curve>Zero iconic locations
>>59042673ok but why can't you prove the game is good without resorting to ad populum?
>>59042457Now show in game footage. 5th gen footage always looks better than 6th.
>>59042489better than literally every other game in the series where gym leaders are completely irrelevant before and after you walk into/out of their town
>>59042702>3d ruined Pokemon designs, Greninja, Sylveon, and Mega Charizard X are more popular than anything in gen 5, which had multiple lazy literal copy pasted designs, so that can’t be true>Customization ruined protag designsThat’s the best part about customization anon. You can make the protag look like fucking anything you want. Unlike BW2 where you’re stuck with the palm tree hair retard the whole game.>Team Flare was so hated GF essentially stopped making real Evil teamsSource?>Where Unova was linear with exploration, Kalos cut back even harder, almost ever route is a genuine straight line without even the barest hint of explorationSource?>Game is paced like shit, you blitz through 3/4 of the gyms in less than 2 hoursNo you can’t.>Multiple blatantly unfinished areas, Zygarde nowhere to be seenSource? Also weren’t you just crying about the game having no exploration? If that’s the case, how did you miss Zygarde?>Began the de-rpgification of pokemon …By adding more rpg elements like customization and being able to pet your Pokemon and adding features like shared exp which are standard to rpgs?>Zero iconic locationsLumiose City is more iconic than any location in gen 5, so that can’t be true.
>>59042730>the gym leaders exist on the screen more and tell you where to go therefore it’s better!No…not really
>>59041908>8th gym>3 pokemon >final rival doesn't even have a team of 6 What a shit game.
>>59042655It's in mine after PMD Sky, Ranger 2&3, and Platinum.For me Y is one of my fondest memories from the 3ds era, and the only Pokemon game I played for over 400 hours. My friends were never as much into the franchise as when the games released and we actually all did trading, battling, competitive breeding, and friend code sharing for the safari. I remember all the memes and shitposts around wonder trade, all the far-fetched theories around the various easter eggs. These games were the short-lived revival of pokemania, which can be largely attributed to the PSS, large amount of QoL changes and just the huge graphical upgrade that gave hope to the fans.Removing the PSS for a Rotom bottom screen and needing over a minute to connect to the festival plaza to do trades and battles killed all friend interactions I had in S/M. Blame Ohmori.
>>59042452>>59042457>>59042461baited xD
>>59042733>Greninja, Sylveon, and Mega Charizard XRare 3d pokemon Gem, eeveelution, and charizard but blue>That’s the best part about customization anon. You can make the protag look like fucking anything you want.Except in every game after XY because they immdeatly cheaped out on customization options. God forbid you wanna wear a black jacket with a white shirt in ZA or wear anything but that ugly uniform in SV.>Source?They stopped making real evil teams afterward.>Source?I played the game Day 1.>No you can’t.Yes you can, and do. That's why Kalos is so forgettable.>Source? Also weren’t you just crying about the game having no exploration?Source, I played the game. >If that’s the case, how did you miss Zygarde?Because there's so little to explore most people assumed it wasn't in the game outside of events like Volcanion>…By adding more rpg elements like customization and being able to pet your Pokemon and adding features like shared exp which are standard to rpgs?You can customize your character in Final Fantasy 6, the best RPG of all time?>Lumiose City is more iconic than any location in gen 5, so that can’t be true.CasteliaBadge CheckPlasma FrigateDriftveil CityMarine TubeBlack City/White ForestSkyarrow BridgeRoute 10Village BridgeAll brutally mog Kalos, which is a soulless husk of a region
>>59042797>You can customize your character in Final Fantasy 6, the best RPG of all time?Not only that, but BW is the closest to a proper, although simple, JRPG, like FF4
>>59042797>Castelia>Badge Check>Plasma Frigate>Driftveil City>Marine Tube>Black City/White Forest>Skyarrow Bridge>Route 10>Village BridgeI don’t remember any of these except for castelia city kek
>>59042812>proper jrpg means cutting all the exploration, features, and difficultyweird cope
>>59042815i don't remember any Kalos location except for Laverre City, your point?
>>59042824Right, im sure XY is closer to CT or FF6 than BW
>>59042815No one remembers anything about Lumiose City, which is why people hated it so much in ZA; they thought it would be as cool as Castelia>>59042824XY is the easiest pokemon game in the franchise thoever, even the later games manage to TRY and make some hard fights.
>>59042832>No one remembers anything about Lumiose CityI do
>>59042832>No one remembers anything about Lumiose City, which is why people hated it so much in ZA; they thought it would be as cool as Castelianta but imo the problem is that ZA Lumiose was empty and ugly compared to the XY Lumiose, sadly
Gen 5 looked like ass, worst sprite game by far
>>59042832>XY is the easiest pokemon game in the franchise thoevernah I found it harder than gen 5
>>59042825>your point?Unova is less memorable than Kalos
>>59042841and the sky is blue
>>59042752>These games were the short-lived revival of pokemaniaYou're talking about Gen 8. First real pokemon game on a home console exploded the fandom so hard I was getting pokemon tweets shoved into my Twitter feed december 2019 because people were losing their minds over the games. One of the first things I saw about the game was an animation of Zamazenta and Zacian dancing to the Battle! Mysterious Beings track from the OST.>>>59042841No one believes this, and moreover, no one believes that you believe this.
>>59042797> Rare 3d pokemon GemAnd yet somehow less rare than gen 5>Except in every game after XYWhy are you blaming XY for games after XY? And why is less customization somehow worse than no customization and being forced to play as a palm tree haired retard?>They stopped making real evil teams afterwardHow is that XY’s problem?>I played the game Day 1I also played the game Day 1 and know that you’re lying, so….>Yes you can, and do. That's why Kalos is so forgettable.No you can’t, and don’t. That’s why Kalos is so memorable.>Source, I played the game.I also played the game and know you’re lying, so…>there’s little to explore so I missed the explorationNice self own>You can customize your character in Final Fantasy 6, the best RPG of all time?You have no shared exp in FFVII and Chrono Trigger, the best RPGs of all time?>All brutally mog Kalos, which is a soulless husk of a regionNot really, no one except zoomers remember any of those locations.
>>59042867>No one believes this,I do
>>59041919>yawnfag is illiteratekek no wonder you hate gen 5
this bait and switch doesn't even make sense
the “it’s forgettable” cope stops working when there’s a new thread seething about the game literally every day
>>59042897Unobabies are more annoying than genwunners
>>59042872>And yet somehow less rare than gen 5Proof?>Why are you blaming the games that ruined everything for the things that they introduced? idk man I just dont know.>How is that XY’s problem?Read above.>I also played the game Day 1 Proof? here a pic of my Launch month event Torchic.>No you can’t, and don’t.Proof?>I also played the game and know you’re lying, so…See above.>Nice self ownYea kalos gets owned by previous and later generations>You have no shared exp in FFVII and Chrono Trigger, the best RPGs of all time?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ChronofagLmfao >Not really, no one except zoomers remember any of those locations.Cope
the "you're seething about it every day" cope stops working when you post a falseflag thread every day
>>59042903>Proof?
>>59041908>memorable NPCs few and far between; can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?Korrina and Valerie simply because they're hot (though to be fair Korrina is probably the most important Gym Leader in Kalos simply because she gives you the Mega Ring)Malva for being a part of Team FlareSiebold for his sperging if you disagree with himAnd while you didn't mention the characters from Team Flare, Xerosic due to his role in XY's miniscule postgame, Lysandre for being such a failure of a villain that it took until USUM and ZA to actually make him into a good character, and Mable simply because of her role in ZA. I could not tell you what she does in XY because I don't know what she did there.
>>59042907>ad populumYawn
>>59042872>And why is less customization somehow worse than no customizationNTA, but letting me customize my character but limiting me in arbitrary ways always feels worse than just not letting my customize at all.
>>59042867>he thinks controversy = popularityAnon, SwSh was hated by all to the point Masuda said himself morale at Game Freak was at an all time low. Rape accusations, review bombing, and most of the talk around the game can be traced back to #bringbacknationaldex. The fans never had been so pessimistic about the future of the franchise.XY had the fans think it was gonna be bright, unbeknownst to them PSS was lightning in a bottle.>twitter feedI see, this explains things.
>>59042938This just sounds like a massive cope for gen 5 not having customization.
>>59042872>Why are you blaming XY for games after XY? This is something I noticed XY detractors do a lot. They struggle to find flaws with XY, so they have to lump in XY with all the other 3D games and pretend they all have the same problems, the same way they need to arbitrarily lump gen 5 in with gen 3 and 4 so they can pretend they’re all equally good.
>>59042942Yea it was so hated it broke 2 decade old sales records.>unbeknownst to them PSS was lightning in a bottleI never used PSS.>this explains thingsYea twitter used to be a cool website where you could follow japanese artists and then use their likes to find other high-quality artists.It used to be fucking glorious, just japanese art, people chatting about games and cutting lose, before covid flooded it with ultranormies and #He took over and fucking ruined.
Why are you replying to our own post like that?
>>59042957>I never used PSS.But it was peak, i had 400 hours on XY
>>59042944The best pokemon games in the franchise don't have customization.Pokemon doesn't need it, but if you're going to add it you should get it right.
>>59042956>They struggle to find flaws with XYI just listed a bunch.
>>59042965The worst games in the franchise don’t have customization.
>>59042980But the worst games are USUM, SwSh and SV?
>>59042984ZA, SV and BDSP imo
>>59042984Nah
>>59042960Removing the IP counter was a mistake.>>59042957Twitter has always been a normalfaggot site, newfriend.All Pokemon games have always sold well, even garbage like LGPE. The difference is XY wasn't a "play once then forget forever" game unlike SwSh. It didn't even need an online subscription.
>>59042992SwSh sold nearly 30 million copies in 5 years bro>The difference is XY wasn't a "play once then forget forever" gameThat's exactly the type of pokemon game it was.
>>59042702>Began the de-rpgification of pokemonInfinite TMs were from gen 6?
>>59043012Maybe if you played it ten years after release, after you've been brainwashed by your twitter friends and the game's best feature was dead.
>>590430180 dungeons was from gen 6
>>59043032>games best feature is a long dead online systemFortunately b2w2's best feature is the game itself
>>59043036This is gen 5. Specifically the dungeons were designed as corridors as a response to soccer moms who complained their kids got lost in Mt Coronet.
>>59043051So you admit that xy has no dungeons and bad dungeons > no dungeons?
>>59043058No I don't. Reflection cave, glittering cave, frost cavern and route 20 lost woods were all very fun locations to explore.Also, dungeons are one thing, but XY also had arguably the single best route in the entire franchise.https://youtu.be/bGNp-MWVvoE?si=1MD_TzeLmU3u4Jz4
>>59043108SOVL
>>59043036>eslYou should stop trying to talk to actual humans.
>>59043036This is another “critique” that’s just retards trying to lump in the problems from other 3D games.Dungeons got reduced in gen 8 or arguably gen 7. Gen 6 had plenty of dungeons.
>>59043155>Dungeons got reduced in gen 8 or arguably gen 7. Gen 6 had plenty of dungeons.Gen5fag here and i agree, SwSh pre DLC was the worst of the worst tho, SM still had vast poni canyon
>>59043108>No I don't.You just did. >single best route in the franchise>it's a diagonal line without a split path and nothing that isn't immediately obvious Jesus Christ
>>59043108>but XY also had arguably the single best route in the entire franchise.Come on anon, that's Hoenn 119/120
>>59043180Holy based
I kinda wanna play pokemon xy if for no other reason than to see how many of Yawnfags talking points are blatant lies he knows no one will bother fact checking because the games suck and no one wants to play them
>>59043180Rhetoric obliged, but I actually like both 119/120 and 15/16 equally as peak routes.I like how 15/16 are interconnected into the lost hotel though, it just clicks when you're inside, see an area you can't access, and reach it from the other route.>>59043169But >>59043145 is indeed the best the franchise has ever done.
"The best route in pokemon history"
XY doubles were the tits gen 5 and 8 were the same game terrible, shit locations, shitty spammed pokemon legendairies that were overpowdered for no reason and used by legend spammers in singles who think theyre good at a chiodrens competitive pkmn battle format ( singles)
>>59043340In english?
>>59043348im sorry i didnt know youre retared>Gen 1 > Gen 6 > Gen 9 > every other Gen > Pile of Garbage > Gen 5 and 8
>cool deer in OPdidnt read your post but xerneas is cool. sorry about gen 5 being a gay furry gen or whatever
>>59043340>the gen where Mega Mawile raped everything in its path without remorse is better than Gen 5's peak weather warsInsane
>>59041919Same, sprites were an eyesore in gen 5
>>59043376>I dont know how to kill Mega Mawhile in Gen 6 doublesGo back to Singles then
We still think about you
>>59041908>>59041908>>59041908>>59041908>pic unrelated because i'm not wasting precious hard drive space on a .png of the garbage that was Black & Whitethis entire board got baited for being too fucking illiterate lmao
>>59044193kino dungeon
>>59044163The problem is that the entire post is demonstrably true for XY but only arguably true for BW.Just on the point of memorability a fucking random trainer class became a fanart staple over literally every single named NPC in Kalos.
>>59044330>Chadlos is so memorable that even the generic npc trainers are more remembered than Unova npcsHoly based
>>59041908>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generationbahahahahahaha
>>59044343unfortunately comes at the cost of every other trainer (and the region as a whole) being completely unmemorable
>>59044357I remember themAnd judging from the heavy amounts of seething, plenty of other people remember them too.Must be a (You) problem
>>59044395>State an bland fact about gen 6>Heavy amount of seethingWha...?
