This is why newer games are made for retards btw
>>59042182kek the games have always given you wild or gift Pokemon to beat every gym leader within the immediate vicinity so the player doesn’t get stuck. Do zoomers not know they can go north of nugget bridge to catch oddish or bellsprout?
>>59042197>>59042182I didn't do it because I didn't like any of the early grass types in Kanto. Oddish and Bellsprout look lame. I like Bulbasaur, but you can only get one starter and I chose Charmander so....
>>59042182This is why I hate when they make black trainers competent (like in the anime or recent games)It's just too unrealistic
>>59042200>Oddish and Bellsprout look lame
>>59042219They do. Oddish looks like one of those McDonald's troll thingies
>>59042197Don't bullshit me, the Vulpix around Celadon cannot handle all that flower power
>>59042182He's playing for fun rather than to win or to prove something. Pitting your starter against the opponents ace, even with a type disadvantage, is hype as fuck if you can win.
>>59042200>you can get only one starterI played Yellow so I didn't have that problem. I had 4 starters
>>59042182it's always the charizardfaggots for some reason huh
>>59042197Misty will outspeed and murder both of those unless you grind a bunch, she's always been a bit of a roadblock.
>>59042222>McTard-brainedThankfully for normal people Oddish is a cute little mandrake.
Why did he have high expectations on that mega punch
>>59042311Someone fooled him by telling Mega Punch is stronger than Mega Kick
>>59042336hi yawnfag
>>59042311because he's not an actual fan most likelyeven more ignorant than a campaignshitter
>>59042311watched the speedrun once but forgot he didn't pick CHADSTOISE
>>59042197Rival cockblocks you from Nugget Bridge
>>59042336so someone this retarded still finds xy trivially easy? XY must hold your hand like crazy then...
>>59042405>so only people this retarded screech about XY being too easy?Yes.
>>59042394Gary is significantly easier than Misty coming into Cerulean City. You were always supposed to return to the gym later. In fact, you don't even need to beat Misty until you have cut. You can board the S.S. Anne for extra levels if you still can't beat her.
>>59042414thats not what he said
>>59042404>nigger goes full retard on stream>"I-It's staged!"Every time
>>59042182The sad part is, you very easily can beat Misty with Charmeleon, but he did the retarded thing campaignshitters do where they waste exp on a bunch of shitmons so they can have a “balanced team” yet their “balanced team” still somehow can’t handle a simple type matchup.
>>59042421yes it is
>>59042434>but he did the retarded thing campaignshitters do>NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY LEVEL YOUR STARTER AND NEVER BOTHER WITH ANY OTHER MONSif this is the intended experience then the games are objectively awful
>>59042460>if this is the intended experience then the games are objectively awfulI have bad news for you anon
>>59042460>if this is the intended experience then the games are objectively awfulIt took you 30 years to figure this out?
>>59042460there is more than one way to do it
So, if you only level one Pokemon how do you beat the battle facilities later?
>>59042471By catching a legal legendary and the gen's pseudo of course
>>59042471>FRLG>battle facilitiesanon….
>>59042434this may be foreign to you but some of us play video games for fun
>>59042547Single pokemon playthroughs are fun.
>>59042182Now I get why people always insist older games are harder. You’re all just fucking brain-damaged
>>59042574having an actual team is more fun if you ask me, or just about anyone else for that matter
>>59042580Why would I care about you, or anyone else, when we are discussing my own personal enjoyment?
>>59042471Dude, what battle facilities? Matter of fact, what postgame? FRLG had fuck all to do.
>>59042582well, it's because i'm awesome and you're a fag
>>59042587I accept your concession.
>>59042200>Oddish and Bellsprout look lameYou're a megafaggot and deserve death
>>59042226Good thing you get a Fire Stone in the same city :)
>>59042596i accept that i'm awesome and you're a fag
>>59042394Outside of the Pidgeotto and his starter, it's piss-easy to go past him. Once you beat those two, the only threat are an Abra that can only do Teleport (useless in a trainer battle) and a shitty Rattata.
>>59042471No one ever does those
>>59042606see>>59042596
>>59042434>>59042460>>59042469My team usually looks like this>Starter (highest level)>That one pokemon I levelled up alongside my starter>Legendaries that I can catch before the elite 4>That one pokemon that I tried to grind but gave up on halfway through>Lvl 5 HM monNgl it was embarrassing having to use a lvl 5 Hoothoot to fly around until I finally captured Ho Oh. Wonder what the rest of Johto was thinking seeing a guy with 8 badges fly around on a 2 foot tall bird.
>>59042604And the Flamethrower TM in the Game Corner.
>>59042586>Matter of fact, what postgame? FRLG had fuck all to do.I-I like the Sevii Islands.
>>59042226Learns flamethrower at level 29.
>>59042645for me, it was Kenya
>>59042586Trainer Tower was the one FrLg had.
>>59042656True forgot about that
>>59042587>t. awesome>>59042596>t. fag
>>59042668Wait, you actually kept Kenya? I never did. In fact, I tried my best to make sure I'd never have to use it in battle. Using someone else's pokemon and letting it get beaten up sounds like an inconsiderate thing to do.
>>59042281>>59042602>MegafaggotSays the guys getting defensive over an armless smurf and a Plants vs Zombies character. You're the real faggots here, fags.
>>59042280>Pokemon requires training to beat a bossNo shit? Both Oddish and Bellsprout come with STAB Grass attacks and learn the powder moves after a few levels from battling all the trainers on the way to Bill’s house. Misty is easy especially if you already have a Pikachu.
>>59042708Yeah, it’s great in GSC. Decently strong and gets boosted exp as well.
>>59042200this, gen 1 mon are literal garbage playing fr lg fir the first time and all these pokemon have garbage move sets and terrible designs
>>59042645>Wonder what the rest of Johto was thinking seeing a guy with 8 badges fly around on a 2 foot tall bird.probably "that hoothoot is a champ in the fucking making. look at that fella"
>>59042908Most of the ones I like to use can only be obtained in the mid to late game.But it makes sense, Dragonite and Aerodactyl are quite powerful, I suggest focusing on your starter and search everywhere until you find something you like, the more difficult to obtain usually reaps better rewards.there's also that Magikarp you can buy before entering mt moon, worth to evolve into Gyarados even if you picked squirtle.
>>59042434I recognize that cringe!
>>59042336>>59042434Samefag
>>59042414So XY is difficult?
>>59042182Wartortle gets access to bite and defends against water pulse.Ivysaur is a grass type.Facing Misty after picking Charmander means you better catch Pikachu in Viridian Forest , or a Grass type just off Nugget bridge.
>>59042952Or simply don’t be retarded and don’t waste exp on shitmons and just click Mega Punch with Charmeleon 3 times
>>59042973There's no such thing as wasted exp.
>>59042973>it hurt itself in its confusion!rng's a bpdemon!
>>59042973>3 timesI just ran the numbers, Level 21 Starmie 2-shots Level 29 Charmeleon with Water Pulse, you need Mega Kick without missing AND avoid confusion damage. That's around a 30% chance of losing.
>>59042973>don’t be retarded just attack the fast strong watermon with your fire type.
>>59042973>Don't be retarded and play like a retard
>>59042197>Just use a slow Grass/Poison against a fast Water/Psychic!
>>59043077>Level 21 Starmie 2-shots Level 29 Charmeleon with Water Pulse, No it doesn’t>b-but you might get confused!Wow good thing you can just switch to any of the other 5 slots you have for fodder then
>>59043097>I’m scared of the heckin “it’s super effective text!” never mind the fact I can still tank hits and deal damage thanks to the numbers advantage!it’s incredible how campaignshitters have trouble grasping literally any mechanic past the type chart
>>59042182I can never forgive that fucking episode of ashnime where he went from Alola to Kanto and Misty used a mega Gyarados.
You guys ever try not being retards?
>>59043123Post your ELO or ball rank.
>>59043112Her Starmie doesn’t have any psychic moves
>>59043112Misty’s Starmie doesn’t have any psychic moves. You are purely fighting it through its Water weaknesses.If anything the psychic type hurts Starmie more than helps at this stage since it can now also be hurt by bite and not just electric/grass moves.Either way, it’s still better than sending your fire type against it while knowing you are tackling a water gym
>campaignshitterReminder
>>59043123Why double down on being a retard?
Reminder that fucking Rich Evans is better at Pokemon than most of /vp/.https://youtu.be/eZQtia9ZyyQ?t=99
>>59042928That pooner they’re quoting is the one who whines about grinding and how hard the elite 4 is lol
>>59043152>your lv36 charizard is going to have more trouble against lt surge than my lv24 charmeleon because charizard is heckin weak to electric moves!!!This is how retarded you sound.
>>59043159Based on what?
>>59042200Nope because if you know about pokemon just a bit you can get all 3 starters taking advantage of the save feature and it works the same up to sun/moon.Hint 0.16s during save.
>>59043178sharty post, dni
>>59042182I was waiting for Mega Punch to miss. Disappointed.
>>59042708It's even more rude to take someone else's pokemon and never do anything with it except to let it rot
>>59043218We are talking about a charmeleon against a Starmie and not a fully evolved Pokemon with significantly better status and access to a powerful 95 base bower neutral move it can attack the opponent with like flamethrower.Continue being a retard.This is the last bit of attention you get from me
>>59043272Hey retard, if your Charmeleon 3HKO’s Starmie, and Starmie 3HKO’s Charmeleon, but Charmeleon outspeeds Starmie thanks to the player having higher stats after not wasting exp like a retard, which one is going to win? Let’s see if your brain understands more than one mechanic.
>>59042748>catch new pokemon and grind them for many levels so they can survive a hit from starmie and maybe paralyze it in return Kind of a far cry from >ITS SO EASY! THEY JUST HAND YOU THE WINNING GUY!And pikachu is so squishy, it probably won’t survive a single water pulse. Your best bet is to just ignore Misty and come back later if you started with Charmander. Sure you can beat her by hanging around and grinding, but you might as well go progress and level up at the same time.
>>59042434I just transfered mewtwo from original red, then transferred corsola, then lugia, mostly using mewtwo and nothing else, besides most retards go "i choose charmander because charizard is in the main screen" fully ignoring how retard their choice was.Difficulty as explained in the past.>easy : bulbasaur since it has advantage from start agains wild mons and gym leaders.>medium : squirtle it has advantage in first gym and against some wild mons early.>hard : charmander it has no advantage early on against leaders, only advantage against bug and bird mons early (making capture difficult) and scratch has 20% critical, later will have more issues because charizard is dual type so his weakness just increase and will be weak against ice, water, fire, electric, psychic, fighting and so on.>the difficulty isn't changeable since you compensate later with other mons on your team.
Why do people that spam "campaignshitter" immediately flee the thread when you ask them for proof they play competitive?
>>59043293If you even slightly know what you’re doing then Bulbasaur is the hard mode, not Charmander, because Bulbasaur’s moves are shittier and grass is a fucking horrible offensive type in Kanto where most of the Pokemon you fight are poison/flying/bug types.
>>59043152Yawnfag being a disingenuous mongoloid is par for the course, retard
>>59043308>slightly know what you're doing>hard modePick one.
>>59043298because their goal is to shit the board up
>>59042182Why do they behave like this over anything that happens?
>>59043321"Hard" as in "it takes longer to beat this NPC because you have shittier moves" not "hard' as in "difficult">>59043335I think the actual people who shit this board up are the retards who have been playing Pokemon games for years yet somehow still lack basic grasp on any mechanics beyond "hurr water beat fire"
>>59042182>punching a starfish in its 2nd stage evolutionlmao
>>59043339Clicks. Everything exists to make money now rather than solely for enjoyment.
>>59043308This. Starting with Bulbssaur sucks because almost every early route trainer has Pidgey, Nidoran, or bug types. Chadmander destroys all of them. Brock and Misty are both jobbers who only have two mons while you can have six. Only complete retards who don’t know how to play think they’re difficult.
>>59043293I honestly don’t agree with this at all…The char line’s greatest strength isn’t in gyms, it’s that it’s strong against virtually every non cave/non water Mon, and it gets Metal Claw to deal with the former.The char line DESTROYS the campaign almost all on its own.Its difficulty is really just Misty and Surge. Not even Brock since, again, it gets metal claw to get around it’s rock weakness.After that the entire game is a breeze.Charizardfags have been crying for years when the gameplay couldn’t make it easier for them. So much so that many just opt to overlevel Charizard because that’s often all you need.Bulbasaur is much harder to work with. It having an advantage in two gyms and resistance in another doesn’t take away from the rest of the game where it’s slow with hardly any proper decent offense and works significantly better as support in game that punishes you if you don’t dedicate to grinding one or two members of the team.If this game was like stadium and all there was were gyms, I’d probably agree.But since there is an entire journey between all of that rewards the Char pick, it’s ridiculous to call bulbasaur easy.I’d call Charmander the “easy” option. Bulbasaur the “hard”.
>>59043352Nidoran is no issue against bulbasaur (has venom resistance), pidgey is easy to beat, bug types aren't big deal (again resistance), this is why bulbasaur is the easy route.Charmander is the worse choice due to his 20% critical attack that is random (if you are lucky will activate at start if not will activate when wild mon has 55% of hp thus you will be unable to cature since will take all the hp with the critical), then when becomes charizard you will suffer against later leaders because all them have advantage against charizard.I know the anime made the epic charizard vs magmar fight but in the game charizard always lose (charizard is weak against fire as most flying type mons).Is clear you haven't played the games otherwise you will know this, and nope sayimg "charizard has cooler attacks" make no sense ingame because most moves are similar with cooler moves being solar cannon (bulbasaur learns that move), leaf attack (animation is cool), then you can add hyper beam along other attacks (normal practice) since it has a large pool of moves.But being realistic the best pokemons are from events like surfing pikachu or flying pikachu because one can use surf and the other is able to fly.
>>59043347>hard as in "I don't know basic english"
>>59043430>projecting
>>59043378Bulbasaur has advantage against most leaders and elite 4 (along resistance), squirtle has some advantage against leaders and resistance in several cases, charmander is literally to visit pokemon center often and nothing else, by the moment it evolves into charizard is just hell because is weak against everyone.>why did he beat me in one attack... oh yeah he has faster ice pokemon which has advantage against fire and flying pokemon (going from 60% effectiveness to 100% critical ko).>why i am struggling against fire pokemon... oohh right flying pokemon are weak against fire.And so on.
>>59043347>I think the actual people who shit this board up are the retards who have been playing Pokemon games for years yet somehow still lack basic grasp on any mechanics beyond "hurr water beat fire"No it's definitely serial genwarers like yourself.Post ELO schizo.
>>59043347But looking stats charmander and bulbasaur have similar stats, but similar is mostly in attack since bulbasaur has higher defense as most plants pokemon along 1 point higher attack (this is why serebi was a tank because psychic/plant withe the highest stats overall).
>>59043449>flying pokemon are weak against fire.Huh?
>>59042200I can understand not liking Oddish and Gloom.However disliking the absolute kino of the Weepinbell line is disturbing.
>>59042200>Oddish and Bellsprout look lame.i respect you sticking to using what you like but holy shit you have awful taste
>>59042197>Do zoomers not know they can go north of nugget bridge to catch oddish or bellsprout?Problem with this is whether you even want to use oddish or bellsprout.
>>59043449>Grass against ice>Grass against poison>Grass against flyingThat is the E4.The only advantage the bulba line gets in the E4 is Bruno, and that’s only defensively.It’s moot.As I said, I’m not just talking leadersI’m talking about the entire campaign.Routes, Rockets, trainers, Wildmon. The bulbasaur line has a much harder time with this. The Char line can practically just nuke everything through the game. Brock is a non issue so once you get past Misty and Surge that’s really all the problems the char trainer will have in the entire game.
>>59042197Starmie's a psychic type.The only somewhat guaranteed ways to win are Gyarados, overleveling, Pikachu, or Wartortle.Pikachu can be easily missed, Wartortle means locking starter choices, the rest mean bullshit amounts of grinding.That's what makes Misty a good boss, the player cannot easily curcumvent the difficulty of the fight and will have to actually try a bit there.
>>59043252I always gave them back (Shuckie and Kenya) But I suspect that's as much down to not truly giving a fuck for shuckle or spearow enough to want to use them.
>>59043517>the player cannot easily curcumvent the difficulty of the fight and will have to actually try a bit thereunless you’re not retarded and simply click the A button with charmeleon a few times
>>59042182Why are charmanderfags so bad at playing the games?
>>59043517Are you underselling Raticate and Paras on purpose?The rat always delivers for me, players need to trust Raticate more.
>>59043515Not to mention that Lt. Surge is mostly optional if not for the badge check before victory road. One could easily ignore Lt. Surge with charizard until you've beaten Blaine for all the game cares.
>>59043543Does it learn Bite? If not it gets 2HKO unless you're tryharding with EV grinding and berries.>>59043548Forgot about those, yeah Raticate would fuck Starmie up, Paras i'm not sure, it's really frai..>35HP, 25 speedL.M.A.O. what is this
>>59043557Are you afraid of Lt surge with your lvl 36 starter? What?
>>59043560>If not it gets 2HKO>>59043159
>>59043568>lvl 28I hate that i share a board with zoomers
>>59043560I have used it, works. Dry skin paralyziz and leech life can actually drag the battle till it wins If you somehow did nugget bridge first you may come in with a lv 25 parasect with spore or just a 24 with stun spore but that's if you want to evolve it early and over level it, to be honest I always over level parasect because it's too good at catching shit.
>>59043546As you see, their “strategy” is pressing A until it works. They grind the one Pokemon they press A with until they win. That’s their actual “strategy”.These mouth breathers are best ignored.
>>59043585>the “mouth breathers” are better at the game than campaignshitters who think training 6 pokemon evenly is goodgrim
>>59043588What's your ELO?
>>59043583Paras doesn’t get dry skin in gen 3
>>59043583>OverlevelingSo it's not about Paras but about grinding again.
I did a Firered playthrough with an overleveled Charizard and it was one of the dullest experiences I've had with this series. It is no surprise Yawnfag is the most miserable guy on /vp/ with how he insists that this is how you must play. He has nuked his enjoyment of the games just for genwars. Worse still, he has never provided proof he plays competitive.
>>59043517why does starmie's psychic type matter? misty's starmie doesn't have any psychic moves.you DO know that from actually playing the game, right?
>>59043620>play any of the newer games where you’re actually encouraged to use multiple pokemon>start having fun again
>>59043623Could've sworn it had Confusion, either Mandela effect or something is rly off here.
>>59043620You do the in-between. Rather than a full-party, you use like 3 pokemon. That was fun for me.
>>59043640nope. only normal and water moves in RBY and FRLG, and even in GSC and HGSS where she's postgame her gym battle starmie just has ice beam for coverage. only in her HGSS rematch battle does starmie actually get a psychic attack.
>>59043603Oh yeah, I always asume it has it.I do remember spore being at 25 one level above 24 when it evolves. Then it was changed to 17 onwards.>>59043608I said if you want spore or parasect, normal Paras can do it with just stun spore and leech life, fuck it even if Paras faints it already paralyzed starmie I don't remember seeing misty using a full heal whenever I have battled her only her healing items and x defense.
>>59043652i like to run 4, myself. it's the sweet spot where you have just enough xp to stay on par while also having two free slots for all thise shitty HMs.
>>59043639I can play the old games that do that too.
>>59043640proboaby misremembering because of the confusion status you get from Water Pulse, which she spams in FRLG
>>59043575That's just the natural consequence of using only charmander the whole game, not going out of your way to grind, and this is the whole subject of the thread.
>>59042182I played like that when I was seven I'm not gonna lie. Just beating my head endlessly against Glacia in the hoenn E4 until it worked.
