>useless in battle>too rare to be dungeon fodder>only used by 3 random NPCs>not merchbait like baby pokemonWhat was Game Freak's intent for this guy?
She cute.
I personally requested a pokemon with a mouth big enough to handle my magnum dong, and this is the design they chose, of course.
>>59051061>Let's make an interesting pokemon.It's not that unusual.
>>59051061This thing learns Ice Beam, Solarbeam, and Flamethrower. It has 55 Special Attack. Just why?
For a pokemon so mid, it has insane type defenseMaybe it has to be shit on purpose so it doesnt power creep everything.Yes i know fairy was added retroactively to it
>>59051070This. She can dance too. Look at her go!
>>59051434As well as Dark movesI'm sure they had the idea of the special split while they were working on Gen 3 but it was too late to implement or something and lil guys like this one suffered for it
>>59051497It learns Fake Tears early on which harshly lowers foe's Special Defense so they must have known it relies on Special moves to deal damage. Maybe their plan is for it to use a Fake Tears + Crunch/Ice Beam/Flamethrower combo to deal damage? That's two free hits from each mon on the opponent team before it can deal damage though, probably enough to kill it first.
>>59051061>guyAll Mawiles are girls, males are no exception
>>59051061mega evolution anon mega evolution and fairy type buff.
>>59051468>Maybe it has to be shit on purpose so it doesnt power creep everything.Game Freak still overbalances shit to this day.
>>59051061Swords DanceSucker PunchThat one fairy stabIron Head
>>59051061>>useless in battleto a campaignshitter
>>59051061Dex fodder, like a vast margin of mons.Even worse is that it's not allowed to get an evolution that makes catching it and using it a worthy investment because it has a Mega, not unless it's regionally replaced.
>>59051061Z-A confirming only fully evolved Pokémon get a Mega has killed Mawile forever
>>59051818Are you under the impression that its good online?
I will never not find it funny how much so many people were like>YEAH MAWILE WAS ALWAYS ONE OF MY FAVORITES, I USED IT EVERY PLAYTHROUGHthe moment that it became part fairy and got a mega evolution that meant it straight up did 4x the damage it used to do
90% of Pokemon are useless garbage in battle, the series has always been like that.
>>59051830yesliterally just got speedpass banned last summer
Megas were a massive mistake and let nobody tell you otherwise.
>>59051889>90% of Pokemon are useless garbage in battle>the series has always been like thatexcepting the Hoenn and Sinnoh dexes
>>59051889>90% of Pokemon are useless garbage in battleWith some being crucified for it.
>>59051894But it was Hoenn who leaned into the Slow Frail Mixed Attacker Meme the most of all, though.
>>59051468How good is pure steel Mawile for Gen 3 Ruby anyway?>weak to Brawly>neutral to Watson (but useless against him)>weak to Flannery>resists Norman besides Slaking's Focus Punch>resists Winona besides Altaria's Earthquake>resists Liza besides Solrock's Flamethrower>neutral to Wallace besides Whiscash's Earthquake>resists Maxie's Mightyena and Golbat, weak to Camerupt>resists Sidney >resists Phoebe besides Dusclop's Earthquake>resists Glacia's Glalies, neutral to Sealeos/Walrein's Surf>weak to Drake's Flygons/Salamence and their Dig/Flamethrower>weak to half of Steven's team's Earthquake, no good offensive moves against themOn paper the resistances sound nice but it's too slow to do anything so it's bound to accumulate a lot of chip damage even from its resisted types. Registeel suffers from the same issue but at least it has much higher defenses and 75 SpA to back its Thunderbolt up.
>>59051894nahmost of hoenn dex just didn't feel good to playsure not everything could or should have been your starter / salamence / legendary but that doesn't make them fun to train and battle withmost other things were plagued with poor speed, poor durability or poor methods to actually defeat things, whether low offensive stats or limited movepoolsout of the gen 3 exclusives manectric and sharpedo were the only two that felt good enough as they were, i'd say shiftry, gardevoir and walrein were fine but you had to go out of your way for each of them and many would have discarded ralts or seedot once they saw they had no way to attack
>>59051061>incredible defensive typing>bad stats (even for gen 3) but intimidate gives it usable physical bulk>baton pass + iron defense (or swords dance if you can get it)it's not a lot but it's better than a lot of gen 3 mons
>>59051818wait a second you’re not supposed to bring up fanfic singles
>>59051897>the Slow Frail Mixed Attacker Meme... that only campaignshitters propagate as if it means anything negative
>>59051922ah yes, how could I forget Baton Pass and Mawile only exist in Smogonsilly me
>>59051061>What was Game Freak's intent for this guy?they needed to quickly introduce and normalize more dark and steel types with the gen 3 reboot after the shoddy effort by gen 2, with mixed results.
>>59051892>fanfic
>>59051920it also gets Taunt, crucially
>>59051930>campaignshitteryguess which is more representative of the competitive potential of the game
>>59051924no one in "non-campaign" had fun using cacturne either in gen 3
>>59051940Cacturne literally assblasted smogontrannies into banning Sand Veil alongside Gligaryou literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about, campaignshitter
>>59051939not irrelevant fanfic metas that’s for sure
>>59051943that's a ban on sand veil, not a ban on cacturnei know you're just going to keep saying campaignshitters over and over until i give up and go home because you're 14 years old at the most but come on now
>>59051468Needs to be minmaxed
>>59051943>dude just pray to RNGesus lmao, that's good gameplayLet me guess, you also think Snow Teams relying on spamming Sheer Cold are the pinnacle of gameplay?
>>59051956anyone whose entire argument for the diceroll strats like swagplay etc. is >le smogon granny sethis shitposting pay it no mind
>>59051927speedpass bans only exist in smogon you two-faced pile of shitMawile is irrelevant outside of its mega and its doubles tournament results prove this. fuck off already
>>59051949>doubling-downsasuga, retarded ass faggot campaignshitterhttps://youtu.be/ch3RrIqTFwU?t=290yes, you will always be a filthy campaignshitter talking out of your ass never knowing shit about comp
>>59051971HEY RETARDED FAGGOT, WHAT IS >>59051922 REPLYING TO??THIS: >>59051818WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH SPEEDPASS?NOTHINGKILL YOURSELF, NOW
>>59051980Cacturne was only made a casualty because it LITERALLY HAD NO OTHER ABILITY. And guess what? It was either "ban Cacturne and save the time", or "ban Tyranitar and completely reshape the entire fucking metagame because of how vital Sand Stream is to preventing the Gen 3 meta from being an ungodly stallfest since Leftovers is the only hold item worth a damn outside of niche cases where Choice Band is king".
watch out bro he's going to call you a campaignshitter!
>>59051986*SPEEDPASS BANS?
>>59051987>Cacturne was only made a casualty because it LITERALLY HAD NO OTHER ABILITY.That is literally not what the fuck I said you stupid ass motherfucker, learn to fucking read what is actually written: >>59051943
>>59051986Right here >>59051892You brought it up when people replied to you about smogon being fanfic. Then you dropped your soap and tried to bring up doubles. Feel free to keep seething all over the board though. Maybe bring up shadow ball being in gen 1 again.
>>59052003before people*
>>59051939The actual comp and not fanfic.
>>59051993Gligar literally wasn't banned, though. Only the ability Sand Veil. You can use Hyper Cutter Gligar in OU onward perfectly fine right now in smoggie's gen 3 meta, just as long as its ability is set to Hyper Cutter and not Sand Veil.Cacturne is only banned from OU onward on TECHNICALITY, because again, Sand Veil is its SOLE ABILITY.It has nothing to do with Cacturne itself being this underrated godslayer that pulled the rug from under smoggies so hard that it made them piss and shit forever, it's SOLELY because it had the unfortunate coincidence of having no other options to validate its existence in a metagame where Tyranitar is the defining poster child.And again, this thus creates the ultimatum. Do you either>ban Cacturne and save the timeOR>ban Sand Stream and Sandstorm, thereby banning Tyranitar, and reshaping the entire fucking metagame because of how vital Sandstorm weather is to preventing the Gen 3 meta from becoming an ungodly stallfest since Leftovers is the only hold item worth a damn outside of niche cases where Choice Band is king, likely necessitating a ban on Leftovers as well, FURTHER reshaping the entire fucking metagame
>>59052022Also, Sandslash is in the same predicament of "Sand Veil is my literal only ability". Does this mean Sandslash is a godslayer who caused endless smoggy seethe too?
>>59052003You absolute fucking retarded dumbass, let me lay out the exact chain so you can finally comprehend the irrelevance:#1 >>59051818 (absolute truth)#2 >>59051922 (retarded irrelevant assumption that singles = Smogon; you think GameFreak gave Mawile Baton Pass so it could be used in OU?)#3 >>59051927 (clowning on the retard that conflates competitive Pokemon in general with Smogon)#4 >>59051971 (even more fucking irrelevant commentary that piggybacks off the preceding conflation, when post #1 has nothing explicitly and exclusively to do with Smogon formats)#5 >>59051986 (my first time trying to get all this through your thick ass numbskull)#6 >>59052003 (you STILL not getting it, thus prompting this reply to (You))kill yourself PLEASE, you are genuinely too stupid to live
>>59052022Holy ESL reading comprehensiondo I really need to rewrite >>59051943 for your 4th grade reading level? I guess so:"Cacturne alongside Gligar literally assblasted smogontrannies into banning Sand Veil"you are telling me you didn't know how to interpret that?>>59052027NO BECAUSE I NEVER FUCKING CLAIMED ANYTHING OF THE SORT YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>59052029See >>59051818>>59051830>>59051892>I’m not talking about smogon I swear!!!!!No wonder you thought shadow ball was a gen 1 move and why you can never ever post ball rank or elo. You don’t play comp or anything, you only exist to piss and shit on the board.
>>59052041Got some strays there.
>>59052038I'm interpreting it perfectly fine, friend.You're specifically pointing out Sand Veil as the crux of the ban. I'm correctly recognizing that this is because of Sand Veil as an ability as a whole, not because it's on any one specific species of mon.Cacturne you bring up because Sand Veil is the only ability it's allowed to legally have in Gen 3.Thus, when you say "DURRRRRR SMOGON BANNED CACTURNE CUZ IT MADE THEM CUM", you ACTUALLY mean to say "Cacturne was banned as a consequence of Sand Veil being banned because of Sand Veil's innate qualities, rather than anything to do with Cacturne itself aside from the unfortunate reality that Sand Veil is Cacturne's sole ability in Gen 3."Once. Again.You either ban Cacturne and Sandslash from OU onward to save the time, because otherwise you have to deal with these evasion RNG cunts who have literally no other options for their kits without creating literal fanfiction scenarios, OR,You ban Sand Stream and Sandstorm (Move), banning Tyranitar because IT has no other ability to its name, and create a drastic ripple effect that massively reshapes the entire metagame because of how vital Sandstorm (weather) was to keeping Leftovers in check, ALL so you can use Shitmon Cacturne and Shitmon Sandslash who get raped by OU powerhouses anyway because their stats are rancid dogshit.
>>59052054You still can't fucking read.This is my last reply to you.>I'm interpreting it perfectly fineno you're not, retard>You're specifically pointing out Sand Veil as the crux of the ban.yes>I'm correctly recognizing that this is because of Sand Veil as an ability as a whole, not because it's on any one specific species of mon.if it wasn't on specific species of mons, it would not have been banned>Cacturne you bring up because Sand Veil is the only ability it's allowed to legally have in Gen 3.NO I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IT IS ONE (1) OF TWO (2) MONS WHO WERE USING SAND VEIL AT A HIGH LEVEL TO ELICIT TIERING ATTENTIONHOW ISN'T THIS GETTING THROUGH YOUR ASS-HEAD?>Thus, when you say "DURRRRRR SMOGON BANNED CACTURNEI NEVER MADE CACTURNE'S BAN THE FOCUSI POINTED OUT THAT CACTURNE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO GET SAND VEIL BANNED, THUS PROVING RETARDED MEMEING "MUH SLOW FRAIL MIXED ATTACKERS" CAMPAIGNSHITTERS WRONG ABOUT HOENN MONS STATTED LIKE CACTURNE>because of Sand Veil's innate qualitiesSAND VEIL EXISTED UNTOUCHED PRIOR TO SPECIFICALLY CACTURNE AND GLIGAR USAGE YOU FUCKING POSEURING CAMPAIGNSHITTER, WATCH THIS VIDEO SINCE YOU NEED THE HISTORY LESSON: >>59051980NOW KILL YOURSELF
man they weren't kidding when they said that /vp/ was overran by literal autistic children
>>59052078It's just a game for toddlers bro, why are you getting so mad? Is this reminding you of the time you got called out for thinking Shadow Ball existed in gen 1?
>>59052080Its pretty rough on 4chan in general these days.
>>59052085Funny enough, ever since the Israeli data centers got taken out, it's left us with JUST the autismos since the bots aren't in functioning capacity anymore.
>>59052090Seek therapy.
>>59052080I think the insistence on non-stop bad faith behavior has really killed the site. I feel like it wasn’t as bad 15 years ago.
>>59052099Not to be political but that really is the steady increase in right wingers here since gamergate.
>>59051901Remember its special bulk is so low that neutral special attacks wreck it too, so matchups like Wattson, Wallace, and Glacia are worse than they lookIt also gets like no good moves. Crunch at 36, and fucking Vicegrip at 21 are its best level up moves, this thing IS taking TMs to function, and isn't even using most of them particularly well. It's hungering for Brick Break or Sludge Bomb or maybe Return or Strength if you are economical to have a good physical move to click, and then is sniffing at valuable special TMs, too. When Strength is unironically better than anything it learns by level, you know something's fucked up. Not "Strength is a surprisingly handy move for it" the way Gyarados or Sharpedo or something handle it, but "If you teach this thing Strength and no other TM moves, it will use Strength every single turn it isn't resisted" It's gigashit. Sableye isn't very good either, but at least it fucks Brawley immediately then goes to the box forever. My main memory of this thing is dying in one hit to Feraligatr's Surf in Colloseum. Split power Surf, mind.
>>59051914I think that you've never even tried using most of the pokemon that you think are bad.
>>59051061It should have gotten huge power from the get go
>>59051061>not merchbaitThere is currently a Mawile piece of merch that is so popular that it is getting a ton of r34 drawings.
>>59051061Cute
>>59052340>Sableye isn't very good eitherSableye fucks over more than you'd expect. Immunities to Psychic, Normal, and Fighting are very useful, and Sableye was consistently a mon I could rely on to cover my other team members' struggles. Norman has practically no answer to it.
>>59051061Is wuite usefull in battle speciallu yaking into account types and stats, then comes the moves it can learn that can give you lot of advantages give it ice beam, solar beam, psychic and shadow ball and will be almost the only mon to use.
>>59052633Base Sableye also has wins in VGC. Base Mawile is just kinda shit in comparison.
>>59051861Naahh most used mawile because was a monster in similar level to serebi in stats and could learn almost any move like mewtwo.
>>59052999>because was a monster in similar level to serebi in stats and could learn almost any move like mewtwo
>>59051061to get a mega 3 gens later and actually have value.
>>59051061Cute mon to use if you like it. Imagine being a metafag outside of pvptism.>>59051488Cute!
>>59051088Yeah but the first 151 pokemon actually had animals and fantasy in mind now its like bizarre "pokemon can be ANYTHING" mindset so you end up with filler pokemon with no real world design to it.
I think she's supposed to be a contest Mon like Skitty. With Mawile focusing on the Tough type.
>>59051086you know its mouth is the little beak right? and the huge jaws are just horns?
>>59051914>>59052340Biggest thing that seperates a weak pokemon from a shitter pokemon is how awful it feels to use the latter. Something like Dustox is in a different league than Wigglytuff, despite both being mediocre. And the movepools and typing do much more heavy lifting than the stats
>>59052090oh yeah, were there any noticeable changes with the site when that happened? I know a lot of social media bots went completely silent recently.
>>59053524Ironically Dustox and Beautifly are both useful against Brawly if you’re uninterested in the other options.
>>59052604pure luck stemming from questionable design choices during mawile's transition to 3d
>>59053524>typingPrepare yourself to be called a campaignshitter by a Shartynigger.
It works as a decent team player in some runs thanks to Steel-Type and Intimidate.Just swap it in before your next mon, Intimidate them, then switch or preferably Baton Pass out.And if you can get more turns, Fake Tears or Iron Defense passes.It is awful at fighting itself though.
>>59053524Good stats can make up for bad typing, but good typing cannot make up for bad stats.
>>59051061>useless in battle>Strong Defensive typing>Serviceable bulk>has boostan and Baton Pass>and finally>immunity to attack reduction
