Name a more atrocious stat distribution
>>59058810Slow frail mixed attackers or mixed attackers with a BST lower than 600
>>59058810It's good with dragon dance
>>59058810
>>59058810Isn't this a great spread? The only flaw is the BST is lowIf you scaled it up to a 600 BST it would be Uber
>>59058853there's really no way to allocate stats that doesn't end up being broken when scaled to box legend bstmega rayquaza is straight up rocking the SFMA allocations it just has enough stats to make it work
>>59058855Well, whatever tier OP's mon goes in, it's probably not bad because of the spread. It would be everything else that brings down the mon. SpA being your lowest stat isn't SFMA by definition.
>>59058851I'm sure it will get better when it evolves.
>>59058810They should buff Hitmonchan's defense by 30 points so its Defense is actually higher than its Attack.
>>59058882Bro...
>>59058810Any pokemon with a stat above 100 is a shillmon.
>>59058952Eh, it can be fixed with dragon dance
Behold, the king of shitmon
>>59059048This is what complete disrespect looks like in the form of stats.
>>59058810>>59058952>Doesn’t waste too much BST on an offense it will never useBy default, it’s not the worst way to distribute 455 BST.>>59058851Pretty shit but mostly because it’s 390 BST.The worst way to distribute stats, given a BST, would either be Mega Malamar or Drifblim. The baseline being middle of the pack speed, mixed offenses that aren’t high enough to work either way, and managing to still be frail.The seperator of which stat distribution is worse is up to context. As no matter what your stats are, if you have a dogshit movepool, abilities, or typing, you’ll be bad.Mega Malamar might be slightly better because of Contrary and Superpower, so it isn’t AS frail, but it also has a dogshit typing so can be fully countered by a pickachu clone.Meanwhile Drifblim doesn’t skip out entirely on its physical bulk, which is more important than special bulk for various reasons.But both are genuinely terrible ways to distribute stats.
>>59058810Ah, the Hoenn special.
>>59059117Doesn't Johto suffer from the same thing?
>>59059127Meganium has actual bulk compared to what's referred to as the "Hoenn Special".Yes I used Meganium as an example because of how often it gets crucified and wanted to shed some positivity on it for once.
>>59059127Jhoto only has low BSTs.Hoenn has low BSTs and distributes then in ways that make them feel like they have even lower stats than they do.
>>59059117That’s not the Hoenn special. OP’s example actually has a minmaxxed attack/spA spread, decent bulk, and a speed at least high enough to outspeed all but the fastest mons with a simple +1 boost. You inject an extra 50-100 BST in that thing while maintaining the same spread, and that’s a perfectly usable mon.
>>59059169And Game Freak won't do anything about it yet shits out Flutter Mane with its three immunities coupled with 135 for both Speed, Special Attack, and Special Defense, or a minmaxed second mega evolution for Lucario for the sake of DLC sales.also while making fully evolved Pokemon like Theivul and Squakabilly blatantly bad and excessively weak because... """balancing""" solely driven by making some Pokemon appear better than othersfuck Aus
>>59059188Reminder that Malamar holding an Assault Vest is slightly bulkier than Mega Malamar.252+ SpA Enamorus Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Malamar: 296-350 (78.7 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252+ SpA Enamorus Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Malamar-Mega: 302-356 (80.3 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>59059196Makes Mega Pyroar's +20 to every stat besides HP look better in comparison.ROM hacks exist for a reason
This ain't math class, autist! Stats ruined Pokémon.
Pokemon that have a high attack and spdef but lower defense (or vice versa) are cool as shit but are so uncommon
>>59059048This has to be a Kantomon, that gen suffers the most from spreading out stats evenly. Even more than Hoenn.
>>59059318It's Tropius, an unfortunate victim of "gentle giant" trope that Game Freak just LOVES to embrace the ugly side of every fucking time.Thankfully both Broncherry and Braloha from Palworld didn't get cucked by this since Pocketpair isn't "le subversive" like Game Freak is.
>>59059310Numbers and statistics aren’t exclusive to math class sweaty
>>59059337>it actually was a gen 3 monNever mind, Hoenn definitely got cucked the most in the stat distribution department.
>>59059315No we hate the bundle
>>59059388>it le fixed delibird!!1No, no it didn't.
>>59059310shit stats pokemon are shit to use, even in singleplayer
>>59058882My brother in Christ, that IS the evolution.
>>59059048
>mega malamar has one of the worst stat spreads of all time with 86/102/88/98/120/88>if you scale down the ubers staple ho-oh's stats to base 582 like mega malamar, you get a very similar distribution of 91/111/77/94/132/77and people have the gall to say BST isn't everythingit literally is
>>59060572Too OP because it's not a humanoid Pokemon.
>>59060597It isn’t, but Malamar also has the double-whammy of mega opportunity cost and mid typing
>>59060597It's literally everything for a mixed attacker or a tanksince both have to hit hard while also doing something else
>>59060632>Doofy ass Alomomola gets 165 base hp>an significantly larger ancient sauropod can't have over 130
I'm surprised Guzzlord's shitass spread hasn't been posted yet
>>59060936that's because it's not actually that badwhat makes guzzlord shit is the lack of recovery and its ability doing little for its play style, not its stat spread
>>59060936I think Guzzlord would be a whole lot better if you just rearranged its stats a little.
>>59061001>making it special when all its good attacking moves are physical (eq, knock off, stone edge, poison jab/heavy slam for fairies)retard alert
>>59058810Hoopa, I think it is the single worst spread possible with 600 BST without being unrealistic
>>59061012There's two different stat spreads in that image, nigga.
>>59061017nah, worst would be the silvally special with some extra in spdef95/95/95/95/125/95
>>59060813It's because of the gentle giant trope that Game Freak also fucked over Meganium and Aurorus with because "haha expectations le subverted".If Pokemon was under any other developer all three sauropods wouldn't be made blatantly shit for the sake of being blatantly shit.Any other developer would've made them strong or at the very least NOT shit.
>>59061017>Bound>dies to Knock Off>Unbound>dies to U-Turngreat legendary
>>59061028I understand them not hitting hard physically at least, but they should be proud owners of the some of the highest HP stats in the game proper.
>>59061026Silvally is bad for more than just its stat spread, but also because normal is pretty ass and changing its type means it cannot hold an item
>>59060982It's stat spread sure as hell isn't helping mitigate any of the other problems. Relying purely on HP bulk while having piss poor defenses and being slow as shit makes for a terrible tank (along with the lack of reliable recovery), having mixed attacking stats so both are just okay instead of being good at one so it doesn't even hit hard when it gets the chance to attack
>>59061064>changing its type means it cannot hold an itemThis can EASILY be retconned into the discs working like the Reveal Glass or Prison Bottle instead so that Silvally doesn't always have to hold a Memory Drive. This would mean it can have a different typing other than Normal while also holding something like a Life Orb, Choice Scarf/Specs, Focus Sash, etc.Give it a better movepool too.
>>59061120it could be more optimized but so could any pokemontapu koko and hatterene don't use their 115/90 respective physical attack stats but they're both very strong mons despite this huge waste of statsguzzlord is almost identical bulk-wise to a fully invested mew, except it can be both specially defensive and physically defensive mew at the same time thanks to not needing to invest in hpagain, it's bad because no recovery and shit ability as well as a poor utility movepool, not because its stat spread is uniquely poor
Guzzlord is misfortunate to be alive. Even in a game full of monsters it's an utter mistake. Perhaps it just needs to die. Guzzlord's mere existence brings it so much pain that it screams in agony as long as it draws breath. As if its only purpose in life which is to devour and destroy is painful to it. Of course it is, your mouth and your stomach are in the same location. The same black hole of suffering and volcanic heat that vaporizes your meal is where the rest of your oral cavity resides.I understand you, Guzzlord. I understand what will make you happy, so I'm going to kill you. Not because of your crimes against the living, but because I love you. It is the kindest thing anyone has ever done for you. >>59061001>PUBLNot even fully banned from "Uh oh stinky"Grim.
>>59061214>Not even fully banned from "Uh oh stinky">Grim.That's not what PUBL means. It was banned from PU, but it doesn't have the usage in NU to be in the tier. According to the viability rankings, it's A tier in both NU and RU, which is pretty good.
Slow bulky mixed attackers are for in game runs.They usually have good movepools and don't care at all what EV's they're slurping up from taking down trainers.They're good at what they are for.
>>59059137Meganium’s stat spread would actually be quite good if it simply took 20 from either attacking stat and put it into the other.Maybe take away from speed too because 80 speed is sort of whatever.
>>59061120high HP/low defenses is more optimized than the opposite for a mixed wall, i don't get this complaint. guzzlord uses less BST in bulk stats than toxapex but when both are EV'd it ends up with similar bulk on the main stat and significantly more on the off stat.
>>59060597Mega Malamar at least outspeeds base Glimmora, so there's always that.
>>59061233>It was banned from PU, but it doesn't have the usage in NU to be in the tierthat's what I mean
>>59061395that's because what's popular and what's actually good are often very different things since the vast majority of players suck total ass at the game. reuniclus for example apent several gens being considered a very strong wincon in high ladder OU play while also being down in RU/RUBL because the masses never caught on.guzzlord is too strong for PU and was considered quite strong in NU/RU, but the playerbase just doesn't use it enough for it to rise.a mon suffering from the opposite angle is mega banette, perpetually languishing in natdex OU because low ladder retards prop it up despite it being objectively useless.
