What Gamefreak did to Combusken with his disgusting evolution is criminal.
>>59061587I always thought Blaziken looked like a Digimon but I never hated it.
>>59061587not a huge fan of blaziken but combusken is the worst of the evolution line. it looks like a literal fucking DILDO
>>59061587Blaziken is the most aesthetically pleasing starter, period. Seethe.
Combusken is a penis.
>>59061587weird opinion
Buff Torchic would be a better evolution path than rubber chicken and disco stu.
Blaziken's beauty should not intimidate you.
Combusken looks retarded but Blaziken is great he really had a glow up especially mega Blaziken
>>59061605>thought Blaziken looked like a DigimonI never understood this sentiment.
>>59061587I get not being a fan of Blaziken but Combusken is one of the last mid stage starters I'd expect to have fans
>>59061651blaziken is absolutely the MOST digimon pokemon ever designed. You toss a single strap across its chest or anywhere else and call it Shamomon and it fits perfectly as a champion/adult/whatever stage.
>>59061587when you immediatly know the artist is a furry
>>59061659to be clear blaziken is one of my favorite pokemon and this is not a complaint.
>>59061659That is utter nonsense.>>59061666DECIEVER
>>59061672You're retarded, just compare it to something like renamon. They could easily be from the same franchise.
>>59061692You have no idea of what you are talking about.
>>59061651pokémon fans don’t actually know what the majority of digimon look like, so they always compare them to numons because in their minds digimon is just a pokémon ripoff>>59061692tamers designs are some of the simpler digimon
>>59061692I would argue the mask makes meowscada more digimony than Blaziken. Though if we're being honest stuff like Eternatus or Gmax Orbeetle is probably the most digimon.
>>59061701I do, actually, I simply think it would take very few changes -something as simple as an artstyle swap and add an article of clothing like a belt - to make it fit in naturally.>>59061716When I was younger I only ever saw tamers and that one where they transformed into the digimon (not sure what it was called (also not sure why it got so much flac I thought it was fun))
>>59061723I can see it, I think it boils down to my narrow view like >>59061716 said
>>59061692Are you implying that Renamon isn't strictly loved?
>>59061729>I do, actuallyYou are obviously not qualified to declare that.
>>59061735Not at all, I like plenty of digimon designs, I just think blaziken is similar to some of them compared to most pokemon.
>>59061750Considering that you compared Blaziken to fucking Renamon instead of Garudamon or Flamedramon, is safe to say again that you have no idea of what you are talking about.
>>59061784renamon more closely matches blaziken's level of detail. Neither have clothing/armor covering their bodies. Also, garudamon's proportions are significantly different than either renamon's or blaziken's.It's really telling that you think color scheme and bird-hood is more important than the actual design language and silhouette.
>>59061734People like to call digimon overdesigned, but what they really are is overdetailed. Digimon are meant to look really intense. There's none of that cute/cool balance philosophy pokemon has. It's all gas. harsh shadows, veins, straps, guns, clothing. Basically abandon any hope of catering to young kids and make what a teenager who likes rock music would think is cool.
>>59061587combusken is literal fucking dogshit and blaziken is great fuck off op
>Never forget what they took from you…>>59061662Actually its AIslop, but you might be correct nontheless.
>>59061933needs more detailsgive her some tits and a belt
>>59061605blaziken and combusken both look like digimon only torchic looks like a pokemon and thats mostly because of how simplistic its design is
>>59061659>blaziken is absolutely the MOST digimon pokemon ever designed.eh, you could make an argument for Linoone. It very blatantly rips off how digimon designs their rookies
>>59061933>There's none of that cute/cool balance philosophy pokemon has. It's all gas. harsh shadows, veins, straps, guns, clothing.they stopped doing that around the time xro wars dropped now most designs are a lot more obviously designed to sell toys. Take Gekkomon from the new anime, it and its evolution could easily pass as pokemon
>>59061805You're full of shit. Renamon more closely resembles Lopunny than Blaziken.
>>59062081but why miku
>>59062171I can see where they're coming from Renamon and Blaziken have very similar looking torsos and body to head ratio
>>59062180???
>>59062180>>59062215Even when doing similar poses they look nothing alike!
>>59062180I don't think Lucario looks out of place next to Renamon either.
>>59062215Also, Renamon is small- while Blaziken is a tall motherfucker.>>59062223Now *that* I understand. But the chicken? What the Hell is wrong with you all?
>>59062215>>59062217are you illiterate
>>59062245How does that even make sense to you? Did somebody say that about you and now you believe it's a synonym for "dumb"?
>>59062255You can't divorce superficial characteristics (height, color, pose, animal origin) from design philosophy (color distribution, level of detail, silhouette work, emphasis on certain body parts, proportions, anatomy) and that is either through willful ignorance (where I would have to assume you're just trolling), a lack of knowledge of the subject (not knowing basic character design rules), or lack of understanding of what was said (where you were unable to discern the meaning of what was said with any accuracy) and your behavior made it seem like it was an honest effort on your end, and being illiterate would cover the latter two camps, being either illiterate in this moment not understanding what was said, or being illiterate in the sense of not having been well-read on the subject.
>>59062284I'm not illiterate, you're a pretentious idiot.
>>59062291You were incapable of parsing the language used at either the discussion or discourse level, potentially both, which constitutes illiteracy.
>>59062298You want to believe that to not admit that you love to talk out of your ass and stick your head in it too then blame others for your own faults.
>>59062303You keep insisting that what I'm saying is "pretentious" or "talking out of my ass" but it's really basic, actually. At every point in the discussion you either interpreted what was said incorrectly or presented arguments that made no sense. Please refer to >>59061784 where you claimed blaziken was more similar to garudamon or flamedramon even though their designs are further away from blaziken's than renamon's bar their color schemes and one of them being a bird, or >>59062215 and >>59062217 where you misunderstood what an entirely different guy said and started talking about poses (which have absolutely nothing to do with a character's design) instead of the mentioned torsos and body-to-head ratio. And >>59062232 where you brought up height as if that has anything to do with a character's actual design philosophy.
>>59061587blaziken was the first mon to start this "turn cute/cool animal to furshit" garbagegardevoir is understandable, i don't even think ralts and kirlia are similar to other monsbut blaziken was the first abomination in the series
>>59062320>height has nothing to do in a discussion about body-to-head ratios>similar poses are irrelevant when comparing body partsYou are a worthless imbecile. I have nothing else to say to you.
>>59062303>>59062320look here I'll even spell it out for you, using those images you provided>>59062338>>height has nothing to do in a discussion about body-to-head ratios>>similar poses are irrelevant when comparing body partsYES? You really are retarded, good Lord. Ratios don't change when adjusting heights, and body parts don't change when moving position. You're embarrassing yourself, lmao.
>>59062371>I said thought instead of thoughI've shattered all credibility I had... I'm through... it's so over...
>>59062338>>height has nothing to do in a discussion about body-to-head ratios>>similar poses are irrelevant when comparing body partshahahahahahahahaha you can't be serious
1. Having the last word isn't an insta-win condition. It certainly didn't make any of what you said less stupid.2. Those comparisons are fucking ridiculous. It's obvious you're trying to fit a square peg in a circular hole because Renamon is the only digimon you really know.3. Ever heard of "digging yourself deeper"? In trying to make your initial claims less dumb, you made it clear just how much of an idiot you can be.>Verification is not required.
>>59062405>1. Having the last word isn't an insta-win condition. It certainly didn't make any of what you said less stupid.I didn't "have the last word"? I made a post and was waiting to see what you said.>2. Those comparisons are fucking ridiculous. It's obvious you're trying to fit a square peg in a circular hole because Renamon is the only digimon you really know.Those comparisons are very straightforward. They describe the anatomy, proportions, silhouette, level of detail, locations of details, and even specific design similarities. Beyond that, while I'm no expert in Digimon, I chose renamon specifically for their similarities, not because I didn't know of ANY others. That other anon above even chimed in saying I might have found Blaziken similar because tamers designs are a bit simpler than others; that explains why it might resemble pokemon more than most other digimon designs. Yeah? That seems like a straightforward "oh that makes sense why you might think x".>3. Ever heard of "digging yourself deeper"? In trying to make your initial claims less dumb, you made it clear just how much of an idiot you can be.You do realize you're not even refuting any of my claims? You're just saying that they're dumb.
>>59062422(replying to myself here)I'm genuinely curious about any other takes on this debate I'm having btw, I'm probably going to just drop it after this but I'll read any responses about it, I want to see if other people think I'm crazy or if it's exclusively this one guy.
By the way- for those unaware, this is a Garudamon. The thing that "doesn't look like Blaziken" despite being based on the same thing (Garuda as depicted in kabuki theater).
And this is a Flamedramon.
>>59062434that's way more detailed than blaziken and has completely different design features tho. apart from i guess the head cover and the color scheme.
>>59062422This is the last fuck I can give about you.
>>59062434That kinda looks vastly different broThe colors are about it as far as similarities
>>59062371Decided to practice by making a combo of the two. I'm new to 2d art so feel free to tell me it's awful and why, I won't whine.
>>59061587Blaziken is the way it is because there was something about how Japanese kids would adopt baby chicks but give them up when the chicks grew up. They also took a risk by making Blaziken humanoid. So all-in-all Blaziken is quite literally "you love it or hate it" design.
>>59062590most people love it I'd wager
>>59062533I could totally see this being catchable in Tem-Tem, Telefang, Cassete Beasts or even Pickmon, but it looks just a tad too generic to be either a real Digimon or an actual proper Poke'mon.
>>59061587Blaziken is the only good thing that came from gen 3 starters.You had to suffer Torchic though. If you wanted to though, Flamethrower at lvl 43 was kinda good.Combusken with Double Kick was OP.Blaziken with Blaze Kick was also dope.
>>59062232Truly the Broly gigachad of Pokemon.
>>59063190who is the nuly of pokémon?
>>59061651blazkien is just garudamon without wings
>>59063331The wings are Blaziken's "hair".
>>59062232>Also, Renamon is small- while Blaziken is a tall motherfucker.1,9m to 1,6m is nothing when compared to overall difference between other actually big and small species.
It's time to finally admit that Infernape was always much cooler than Blaziken ever was.
>>59062434>The thing that "doesn't look like Blaziken" despite being based on the same thingblaziken is just a shamo rooster, not a deity
>>59064358It's both. How can you autists not grasp that concept?
>>59063331>>59063344they don't look anything alike other than being red man-shaped birds lmao
>>59064382Do you seriously believe that is just a coincidence?
>>59064218if infernape is so cool where's its mega?
>>59064427similar origin does not mean the designs are the same. Nobody thinks tyranitar and the old american godzilla have similar designs despite being based on the same thing. It's not a coincidence, in fact it's a divergence of different design ideas between the two series.
>>59064524I can tell you are the same pretentious idiot from before, so I won't bother.
>>59064563what a schizo
>>59062434if this guy was blue you couldnt say it looks like blaziken at all to be fair
>>590654551. It's still a tall birdman with a mask and long hair.2. Why would he be blue?
>>59065501those are just superficial similarities. and what do you mean "why would he be blue" I'm saying "look, if you remove this superficial aspect of the design you would see it doesn't really resemble it" it doesn't matter what color it is. the designs aren't very similar. lots of detail vs very little detail, different hand shapes, different foot shapes goodness me, even the mask is only similar in being a mask and not the actual looks of it itself.
>it's that faggot againeyeroll.gif
>>59065546you can't just claim that everyone that disagree with you is the same person
>>59065566See >>59062441.
>>59065567lol
Why was this thread so schizophrenic
>>59062533It looks like shit, keep practicing Also try looking up color palettes, it looks plain af
>>59066227It looks like shit because the idiot has a fundamental misunderstanding of the things he combined. It's a literal-minded autist who is too fixated on individual shapes/colors and can't figure out the true meaning of things. This is also reflected on his bizarre rants.
>>59066199
>>59066276>This is also reflected on his bizarre rants.Huh? Which rants are his?
>>59066418The ones that are rants.
>>59066436There's a lot of rants itt from what looks like at least a few ppl
>>59061587I thought that was the point?The concept behind the evolution line was those painted chicks that used to get sold over easter, with children loving their rainbow colored cute chick until it started growing into a chicken, and then got abandoned because the paint would come off and they grew and chicken are ugly.It was a whole "do you still love them for who they are or did you just love your pet poodle-esque Torchic while it was cute"
>>59066516I love how the concept proves Game Freak are a bunch of hacks. Other than CHARIZARD, all previous starter lines have the exact same effect. Also, Torchic looked as derpy and unappealing as the other two Gen3 starters because of the crappy RSE sprites.
>>59066516>it's SUPPOSED to be uglywow this really sells me on blaziken
>>59066498
>>59066557yeah there's multiple people ranting. unless you say that one guy is just arguing with himself??
>>59066575No, I mean that it's obvious if you read the posts- and it's obvious that you are too lazy to do it.
>>59066580maybe if you're one of the fags bickering but fron a outside perspective I can't tell who it was thar posted tge image not replying to anyone retard?
>>59066546>>59066553I didn't say it was awesome, just that at least it was a pondered concept this one timeTorchic is supposed to be one of pic related, with the evolution mirroring the weeks after Easter, testing you on whether you're a child that just abandoned the grown chicken to die or let it teach them an important lessonThey talked about the design during an interview once and they specifically went for "someone that only cared about torchic being cute should initially feel despair at blaziken"
>>59067309What was the point of this reply? It's completely redundant.Why does this thread attract literal retards/autists?
>>59067249>one fag says Blaziken looks like Renamon>the other doesn'tWow, so difficult.
>>59067340>It's completely redundant.It clarifies what the concept was a bit more and reinforces that "it's not the same as the other times the third evo sucked" come on anonIf you gaze into the autism too much you might find out you're the autistic one
>>59067340common denominator: you>>59067355how do you figure that someone saying "I decided to practice drawing based on this" is the same guy anyway
>>59067385>It clarifies what the concept was a bit moreNo, it doesn't. You just repeated what you said before. Hence "completely redundant".>reinforces that "it's not the same as the other times the third evo sucked"1. My point was that it really is the same thing and that Game Freak are retards for believing they were doing something different.2. You "reinforced" nothing. First- you didn't bring that up, I did. Second- you did not make it clear you were objecting that point in your second post.3. Given the conversation so far, it's obvious you have trouble understanding others AND making yourself understood. You are LITERALLY an autist.THIS is why I'm sick of you. All you do is mess up conversations. And you think I'm bad? Others have even less patience than me, they just NOPE'd out of here and didn't bother with you.
>>59067399>how do you figure that someone saying "I decided to practice drawing based on this" is the same guy anywayBecause the alternative is that two different persons think in the exact same stupid way.>common denominator: youDon't pretend you haven't been here all along too. Everyone else can tell because you are weird and stand out, you are the only one who either can't see it.
>>59067589>who either can't see itwho either can't *or refuses to* see itI deleted that part but accidentally left the 'either'.
>>59067589>Because the alternative is that two different persons think in the exact same stupid way.why would someone saying "I based this on what you people were talking about" mean you think the same???? >>59067589>Don't pretend you haven't been here all along too.you're getting spooked at shadows bud your the one acting weird desu.
>>59067879It's not what you said, it's what you did. "Blaziken = Renamon" is already a weird thing to do, then you made your stupid image where you equate similar shapes in the drawings, then you made your cringeworthy doodle that proved just how autistic you are. And you pretend there is more than one person doing all of this because you're stupid enough to believe everyone is less intelligent than you, which is also shown in your condescending rants (what makes them pretentious is that you aren't smart enough to be looking down on others, you just make a fool of yourself while acting superior - emphasis in "acting").You lack self-awareness to a ridiculous degree. And while the autism certainly doesn't help, your real problem is being full of yourself.
