What's the verdict on Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness?
>>59063204Never played because Gamecube.
One of my brother's friends fucking stole my Pokémon colosseum when I wasn't home and I only found out years later because he only took the disc
>>59063204>XDfucking summerfags
>>59063204Mainline console games were a fucking amazing idea. I liked the games personally but there is an argument to be made that they leave a lot to be desired.Anyway, I fucking hate the switch and that the home console was combined with the handheld. It does pretty much fine as a home console but is absolutely DOGSHIT for handheld. And then being set up to do handheld at all means it’s small and going to have worse thermals and components. It’s such a clusterfuckI get that other people like it. I don’t hate the people who do and I’m not shitting on them personally. I simply do not like the thing
>>59063204They're extremely overrated by people who want to shit on the modern games. In reality if they had been releated today everyone would shit on them for how limited they are.
>>59063204It's interesting as a spin-off but the restrictions compared to "real" Pokemon games (no wild Pokemon, no breeding, limited amount of captures) are too much to be as good as a "real" game, even if it allows for some unique gameplay (only double battles, capturing other trainer's mons, having to purify shadow mons). They shine more as additions to the mainline gen3 games, not as individual titles.
>>59063204They are slow and grindy if you want to purify all the Pokemon but they are still better than any Switch game. They do have a lot of charm even if they are clunky.
>>59063204Johto mons availability in wouldn't be fucked this hard if Colosseum was just Stadium 3 with no catchable mons
>>59063204Cool if you were a kid into edgy shit in 2006 but Colosseum especially doesn't hold up today. Trying to replay with array of gen 2 shitmon with the awful movepools they give you isn't fun. >XD improved a lot but I still wouldn't ever go out of my way to replay it.
>>59063328>It does pretty much fine as a home console but is absolutely DOGSHIT for handheld.Its a downgrade from the clamshell form factor for the DS and GBA SP but imo its about the same as any landscape device like the PSP and GBA
>>59063423The end of the 3ds era was awesome because it was truly portable in the time when smartphones were already popular. Everybody fiddlefucks around on those during public downtime anyway so the ds, while weird and autistic, was mostly fine. Especially because you could clap that shit closed whenever it was time to go or to show somebody that you were giving them your attention.The switch is possible to carry but a pain and also it makes me feel like a giga-autist iPad kid to use anywhere but home. I’m already fucking autistic so it shouldn’t feel too autistic for even me to use. Shouldn’t be like this>vita was unironically really cool but rip
>>59063459>The switch is possible to carry but a pain and also it makes me feel like a giga-autist iPad kid to use anywhere but home.I get what you mean with the colored joycons but with the white or black joycons it just feels like another smart device to me whether im using one or find someone else using one in public. I mostly emulate switch games on my ayn thor these days so I dont really have to worry about it, though.
>>59063501Agreed. I would also add that if you’re cool yourself, you can make pretty much anything look cool too. I’m just not that cool kek
>>59063204They're novel games that are fun enough. The switch 2 releases having no connectivity to the gen 3 games is lame at tho and I hate that. Basically makes it entirely unfeasible to get a living dex in gen 3 on switch without ace.
>>59063507>I’m just not that cool kekI won't deny that some immutable traits like appearance and neurology factor into being 'cool' but a lot of it is just about how you carry yourself. Im a giga sperg when I open up but most people just assume im aloof from my demeanor.
>>59063204Colosseum is absolute kino. Never played XD since they replaced the cool edgelord mc with a child.
>>59063559>Never played XD since they replaced the cool edgelord mc with a child.Yeah but you get a cool edge lord box legend instead
>>59063204Colosseum had the best story of any Pokémon game simply because it didn't have sunshine and rainbows papered all over it like everything else including XD did. It even had an antihero with unclear motivations, which we never saw again.That said both games were made for visuals (state of the art visuals for the time), which made level grinding take 10x as long as the handhelds because you couldn't turn off animations
WHERE THE FUCK IT IS NINTENDO?HALF A MONTH AND NO NSO RELEASE YET
Orre...home...
>>59064082Why are they taking their time releasing it? It's a 20 year old game on an emulator. Why announce that they'll be adding it soon and then take more than three weeks to do so? Why are they releasing the sequel first?
>>59064106>harmonica plays
>>59064113Probably pokopia has to do with it but still
>>59063281This is the least funny, cringiest bullshit. It never was funny. You have always been an annoying, retarded faggot. Kill yourself.
Just replayed both of them for a Gen 3 living dex, and while I did enjoy them, good lord they are massive pains in the ass. Especially Colosseum. Purifying Pokemon in XD isn't that big of a deal because once you get the Purification chamber up and running at full steam, you don't have to worry about it at all until you have everything caught and just need to finish purifying the mons from the last few story bosses and Mirror B. But Colosseum is fucking TORTURE if you don't want to just set Wes up walking into a wall overnight, and that only works on 6 Pokemon at a time, and it isn't even that efficient, so you're going to be constantly switching your mons in and out of battle to get that little bit of gauge change. If it wasn't for needing it for Ho-Oh/Celebi, I'd never touch Colosseum again, but XD is fine.Still better than doing two entire extra playthroughs of Emerald, while completing the Hoenn dex, just for the extra Johto starters, but not by much.
>>59063204I really like the RSE battle theme remixes. imo they blow the ones from ORAS out of the water.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itXFPpAISMohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Ka6TX9q_Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNyCF5FR8Yk
>>59064113>Why are they releasing the sequel first?Because they're going to release Colosseum with the (translated) Japanese bonus disc to make Celebi available to the GBA games, but only if you have NSO + Expansion Pack AND are playing on Switch 2.
>>59064146sasuga nintenjew
>>59064137>only critique is (justifiably) purificationI knew these games were fucking kino. Genius Sonority should have been given the reigns after these games.
>>59064129Cry about it pussy. I've been making that joke long before your tryhard ass was old enough to make his first pseud post on reddit and I'll be making that joke long after you've smashed your last keyboard against your basement wall.
>>59063204still better than any mainline game
>>59063328I hate the Switch quite simply because it has zero personality and style like the consoles before it did, but that’s also a pretty valid reason not to like it
>>59064129Found the Gaia Online user.
>>59064202Jirachi too, with channel. The event to distribute Jirachi is actually in Channel in every single region's version of Channel, it's just not active in the Japanese or US versions because Jirachi was made available at Pokemon Centers all the time in Japan, and the US got the Colosseum Bonus Disc that comes with Jirachi instead of Celebi.
>>59063204They're great and should have been the blueprint for what 3D Pokemon should be.
>>59063204Just did Mt. Battle's battle mode yesterday to get Ho-Oh in Colosseum. I was not expecting a fucking Jirachi to show up. I can't think of any other NPC in the whole series who has a mythical on they're team and Genius Sonority just gives one to trainer #95. Meanwhile, Infin, the final boss of Mt. Battle, doesn't have a single legendary on his team. Also the Jirachi trainer was the only loss I had in the whole challenge. Fucking Doom Desire.
>>59064820Funnily enough, that's not the first or even last time that kind of thing happened. The home console games usually gave a mythical to a late game trainer.Gale of Darkness didn't have a Deoxys trainer, but it still shows up in quick battle teams. I guess they really wanted you to see them in action even if you couldn't attend events.
>>59063204I like them, they're fun
>>59064931>filenameThose are the 3D models from Stadium, Stadium 2 and Battle Revolution.
>>59063204Had XD as a kid, got stumped at the part where your scooter cant ride over sand. I thought the 100 battle tower thing was padding to a t.
>>59064113Because Colosseum is dogshit and they know people won't want to touch >XD afterwards, although I don't think releasing the game with all the nice QOL changes first is going to help much either.
I was curious and found that Gamestop is using a dolphin screenshot with the widescreen mod for their product page of the game.
>>59065112>I thought the 100 battle tower thing was padding to a t.You never have to actually finish it in either game to complete the game, though there are rewards for doing it in both games. It's mainly there to be an endless source of grinding if you need it because there are no wild encounters in Colosseum, and the wild encounters they added in XD aren't easily grindable.
>>59065174What a shell shock that must be if it's your first time playing on original hardware; 4:3 ratio and SD look nothing like that
Will this reduce the price of hard copies?
>>59065459Didn't for Path of Radiance
>>59063204They prove that Pokemon in 3D can work perfectly fine and well so long as Gamefreak isn't in charge of development.
>>59064214>Genius Sonority should have been given the reigns after these games.I swear they stopped having them make games like these because Gamefreak felt threatened by them.
>>59063204>frlg>game freak goes full song and dance with the frlg rerelease>gamecube titles>heres a gameplay compilation also it just comes out sometime in march wont say when specifically bye lolholy shit man they must fucking hate orre
>>59065517just reinforces my theory that Gamefreak hates those games for the same reason Bethesda hates New Vegas
>>59064119the gamecube games have the best music i hope we get them in champions possibly for ww as well
>>59063204Alright but incredibly overrated by people who never played them themselves
They're only interesting for the novelty or because you want to complete the national dex. As games they're not actually that fun. The main selling point of trading Pokémon to and from the GBA games is basically impossible for most people.
>>59063204Colosseum is surprisingly bad.XD is... about as good as you would have hoped Colosseum was. The limited pokemon availability forcing you to make the most out of shitmons you cycle frequently is interesting, but isn't used that well. There's things that make them great, there's things that make them shit. I'd say the first impression experience is really good for a pokemon game, but I would never reccomend replaying them.
>>59065987I don't think any game until they added team EXP share encouraged team cycling. Back then you basically had to finalize your team as soon as possible to not waste trainer EXP or time grinding on wild Pokémon. The Colosseum games didn't even have wild Pokémon (conventionally yes I know about the stupid cakes) so you had to grind colosseum fights over and over. Purification as this thread already pointed out was an awful slog. Basically you grinding these same fights repetitive fights. Most Pokémon were complete dogshit with terrible movesets so everyone's teams ended up looking the same. These games really aren't fun. It's not even contrarian to praise the game because it's used in the content of the mainstream shit on Gamefreak take. But these people haven't actually played these games or the mainline games.
>>59065459If it had connectivity to the Switch games then maybe
>>59065999I used to prefer Colosseum just because XD is such a slog with the constant Cipher Peon ambushes. Replayed it recently and I probably have to concede that XD is the better game.
