they'd almost certainly make it bw1+2 where the bw2 content is treated mostly like kanto from gsc/hgss, except also keeping all the new mons from the bw2 dex because even if most people are alright with it now they wouldn't want to spin up that same old controversy again. So to reiterate:>start in nuvema town like normal>same old mons for the first couple towns, BUT adding in bw2 mons to the route, so patrat, lillipup, pidove, but also jigglypuff, farfetch'd, dunsparce, lickitung, snubbull, nidoran, yanma, etc, you get the gist>you go through the story exactly like bw1 with the only changes being some of the towns from bw2 are available at random points in the story as extra areas to explore>once you beat N during the main game, you can not just challenge Alder, but also get a tip that Plasma might have regrouped after their loss and you can learn more in floccessy ranch, with that whole starting area from bw2 conveniently being postgame only and having spiked levels>entire second half of the campaign is postgame/"post-game" and once you've finished it and beaten alder (either order) he'll be replaced with Iris with a suped-up team more equivalent to Red's level for the big finaleand it would be kino
>>59069858>they'd almost certainly make it bw1+2 where the bw2 content is treated mostly like kanto from gsc/hgss, except also keeping all the new mons from the bw2 dexYeah if they were smart
Nah, they'd rather sell you two games again.
>>59069858From a gameplay perspective it's fine, but from a story one it ruins one of the interesting things about B2W2 which is seeing what has changed in Unova after 2 years. Regardless they'd definitely remake BW 1 and 2 separately when they can just reuse 80% of the assets from BW1 remake.
>>59070291>>59070292you really think they'd release be remakes and then bw2 remakes? they've never released two different remakes in the same gen before
>>59070302Gen 5 is the only games where they can justify remaking both the original release and the enhanced versions. No one would defend them remaking Ruby and Sapphire only to release another remake a year or two later of Emerald.
Given the remakes haven't been adapting the third games, would they even remake BW2 instead of just BW? I haven't played BW2 yet so idk how good it is.
>>59070387BW2 aren't third games they're sequels
>>59070387bw2 are arguably the best games in the series. There's an annoying tutorial near the beginning for a side mode (which is fun btw) but after that it's pretty much smooth sailing.
>>59069858After BDSP I am not excited for the gen v remakes. They’re gonna butcher them.
But they won't do any of that, as they don't consider BW2 on the level of BW1 (or any other new Gen paired game in the series) which is why they associated it with the rehashes. Just as an aside, it's actually staggering how shitheads heard the XY rehash was supposed to be a pair before it got cancelled (with Pokémon Bank still having handling code for XY2 in its final build) and the SM rehash ended up a pair and STILL think the BW rehash was something utterly different, despite starting the trope of paired rehashes (to further trick dimwit kids into buying dem alls).Enjoy the ILCA BW remake I guess, but you'd be best expected the expected than pinning your hopes on a pipe-dream becoming reality.
>>59070485After BDSP, I can't wait for the BW remakes to see all the little unovababs melt the fuck down over having their nostalgia filter ripped the fuck off.
>>59070500>butchering a good game means the original version of the game was bad
>>59070485What was so bad about BDSP? I loved gen 4 and I was thinking about picking them up?
>>59070517Forced EXP Share and affection bonuses butcher the game's progression.Contests were dumbed down.No Platinum content.Inability to use newer Pokémon. (Not that important, but a fun feature in all pre-Switch remakes.)
>>59070517Besides what the other anon said, a lot of people don’t like the chibi art style in a 3d world, moving around is also annoying because they basically just ported the old map to 3d so you run into corners and edges when walking through doors and things like that. Also the games they’re based on were greatly improved by quality of life fixes in platinum which were questionably left out in the remakes.Basically most of the problems can get summed up as following the original DP games too strictly.
>>59070546>Forced EXP Share and affection bonuses butcher the game's progression.And yet the game is harder than DPPt and Gen 5 so it doesn’t matter>Contests were dumbed down.Gen 5 doesn’t have contests.>No Platinum content.Gen 5 was already missing Platinum content.
>>59070517It gave us Shiny Arceus so it was good.
>>59070578>And yet the game is harder than DPPt and Gen 5 so it doesn’t matterNo, have you seen the shit you can get away with in BDSP? Hell, any difficulty differences in the campaign are completely obliterated by affection bonuses alone.>Gen 5 doesn’t have contests.>Gen 5 was already missing Platinum content.So did HGSS, and HGSS is still leagues better than BDSP, what's your point?
>>59070602Why are you bothering replying to him when he's comparing the gen 4 remakes to different games instead of the originals or the enhanced version? Don't fall for his shitty bait.
>>59070602>No, have you seen the shit you can get away with in BDSP? Yes, have you seen the shit you can get away with in DPPt and Gen 5?>Hell, any difficulty differences in the campaign are completely obliterated by affection bonuses alone.Affection bonuses don’t help you against the Charge Beam Abra 5 minutes into the game>So did HGSS, and HGSS is still leagues better than BDSP,HGSS still has the BF and replaced contests with the Pokeathlon. Gen 5 replaced them with nothing.
>>59070614>I don’t want gen 5 remakes because it might be shitty like BDSP>w-wait stop pointing out that gen 5 was already guilty of the things I’m accusing BDSP of doing
>>59070622>kojo is still shitposting even after he got exposedPokemon Autism Spectrum will never be finished at this rate.
I hate affection bonuses bros, the games used to be so hard without them
>>59070644KWAB
>>59070644I'm not even sure what this post is trying to say.>pokémon was always easy, but i'm so incapable that i need it to be even easier
>>59070622>Yes, have you seen the shit you can get away with in DPPt and Gen 5?Impressive, very nice, let's see BDSP's webm>Affection bonuses don’t help you against the Charge Beam Abra 5 minutes into the gameAn optional fight you might not even encounter at the correct time and varies wildly based on your starter. Still harder than anything in XY, I'll give you that.>HGSS still has the BF and replaced contests with the Pokeathlon. Gen 5 replaced them with nothing.Yeah it did, it replaced them with slightly different things like Gen 4 replaced Gen 3's versions. PWT, Black Tower/White Treehollow, Pokestar Studios, and Musicals are all things of varying quality that replace stuff from Gen 4 in Gen 5. This isn't like Gen 6 where XY AND ORAS don't have a Battle Frontier equivalent.
>>59070644You tell him boss
>>59070695nigga cut out the 6 turns of baton passing lol
>>59069858>Ruin the last good mon sprites with "3d"slopNo thanks.
>>59070673>pokémon was always easy,If you actually believed this you wouldn't be screeching about BDSP's difficulty
>>59070512>butchering nostalgiafags means the games were goodDP was exactly the same as BDSP, but sinnotoddlers weren't 7 and easily distracted by them so they shit on them from on high. Same bullshit's going to happen with unovatards. They'll no longer be 7 years old, experiencing pokémon for the first time and won't have that childlike spark of joy inside essential to enjoying any pokémon game as an adult (which is why /vp/'s so caustic to the series these days in general).
>>59070727I don't think you understand greentext.Unless you legit think Pokémon games should be completely braindead.
>>59070742>Unless you legit think Pokémon games should be completely braindead.You keep cock slurping games that are completely braindead, so apparently you think this.
>>59070727I've never had any significant challenge in any paired pokémon game while playing from my mid-teens on. If you have, I suggest it was because you were a dumbfuck child at one point with no general video game experience and no true understanding of the battle system (basically "rock-paper-scissors" with up to 18 different interactions) that allowed you to get so easily roadblocked by a game developed since inception specifically to be easy for children to pick up and play.
>>59070750Yep. When I was a kid I didn’t know there was a difference between special and physical moves so I just always chose the one with the highest power. Also I never used moves that didn’t do damage.
>>59070747I'm complaining about the new games.Is English your second-language or something?
>>59070764You’re not complaining about the old games. Is English your second-language or something?
>>59070771The older games weren't completely braindead.They were easy, but you still had to put some effort in.
>>59070673If that was BDSP the Garchomp would have used Earthquake instead of Giga Impact and it would have had 252 attack EVs instead of 0. Where’s the “even easier” part?
>>59070785>you still had to put some effort inthat sure isn’t what >>59070622 or >>59070644 shows
>>59070786It doesn't matter how many EVs it has if your Pokémon can just dodge the hit because it loves you that much.
>>59070797meanwhile in DPPt I don’t need to rely on RNG and always win because the game has even shittier difficulty
>>59069858the remake begging will finally stop when the first trailer is released and it's another low effort ugly slop like bdshitpiss, and they constantly hammer on to their retarded kikeslave goycattle audience that they decided on this style because it's a faithful™ remake, only to then introduce changes and additions from the newer gens that are convenient to include such as forced team exp and friendshipslop buffsoh who am i kiddingpokespicjeets are literal retarded kikeslave goycattle, they'll buy both versions for $80 each and whine endlessly about the "hate" the slop receives instead of conzooming it
>>59070517>i_am_totally_an_interested_buyer_and_not_a_samefagging_shill_guys.exe
>>59070499there's no chance they decide to entirely ignore them. They're functionally gen 5.5.
>>59070722you can see that piplup is alone on the team and level 69 lmao
>>59069858their never remakeing unova lmao dumb bort
>>59071635They ignored every other rehash mate. They're going to ignore the Gen 5 one just the same.
>>59072488the whole point is that they're NOT one of the rehashes, they're different from the standard third versions from gens 1 through 4. They're completely different games. It's like saying Johto is a rehash of Kanto. I mean kinda, it's a sequel that has more mons and a different story with some of the same characters and the same evil team but different from before... You see?
>>59072595>>59070499The whole point is they ARE one of the fucking rehashes you dumb little bitch. that's why when they announced they were killing rehashes for DLC, they listed it with all the other fucking rehashes, despite desperate little dickheads SWEARING they're "different" because they were the first to be a pair to try and obfuscate the point of being a fucking rehash of the past game. Sorry reality still doesn't line up with your delusions but that's a (You) problem at this stage. Being wilfully retarded to hold onto a delusion.
>>59072651>NOOOOO THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENT THAN THE MAIN GAME BECAUSE THEY HAD IT ON SCREEN FOR 5 SECONDS ALONGSIDE A BUNCH OF OTHER 3RD VERSIONS AND THAT MEANS THEY'LL NEVER TOUCH ANYTHING RELATED TO IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT JUST DOES OK!!!!!!!!
>autistic sperg reverts to lashing out like a powerless cunt because she cannot refute the will of the developersAnd they binned off rehashes while listing them all before divesting themselves of MAKING remakes in Gen 8. ILCA gonna do what they're fucking told, right down to making DBVW a 1:1 chibi remake of JUST Black and White. Just like every other remake remade JUST the lead pair of a Generation, despite rehashes being a functional thing at that stage (or do you dweebs not remember "The Battle Frontier Project has started!"?)
>>59072715>>autistic sperg reverts to lashing out like a powerless cuntthat is precisely what >>59072651 did, yes.
>>59072729>because she cannot refute the will of the developersNice cherry picking bitch. Still can't actually refute the full statement, proving you're an autistic PROJECTING little cunt. Gonna be fun watching you spack out as they fail to spend double the budget to dev a second whole entire pair of games.
>>59072858What is there to refute? Your entire argument is that they're rehashes, your own term, specifically because they were listed alongside other third versions. The fact of the matter is that BW2 have a ton of content that makes it different from the other 3rd versions, not that it isn't a 3rd version. You're conflating that they share 1 category with them sharing all categories.>Is the sky the sea? >Yes, they're both blue!That's how you sound.
Instead of remakes, they will release Black+Black 2 and White+White 2 remastered.
>>59072925That would be hilarious, but probably the best way to go about it
>>59072910Uppers (Game Freak's term, btw) rehashes, "new titles set in the same region" whatever you wanna call them, they don't get remade. They may take elements from one for a remake or hint at content from one in a remake. But they're also not doing remakes themselves any more and Nintendo isn't likely to care some faggot thinks the second title of the last DS gen should also be remade. They know more people bought (thus cared) for the initial offering so just pitch to them (like they did all the way back starting with gen 1 remakes in gen 3) and given they need to slot pokémon releases into their own release calendar, they'd ultimately prefer a wholly new game than pay for two remakes of an entire generation (new Gens sell more consoles than mid-Gen releases ever do). This shit doesn't exist in a vacuum and never did.
>>59073028>than pay for two remakes of an entire generationdo you know what thread you're in? >>59069858
>>59069858The Gen 5 remake should be BW3.
>>59073137No silly, that's Pokemon Legends: Grey
>>59073199>legends unova>its keldeoslop
>>59073203Turns out Keldeo was The Original Dragon™ all along.
>>59069858It WOULD be kino. That is exactly why they will never do it.
>>59069858>remakesYou mean BW3, right?
>>59073035Yeah, a thread full of unovatards failing to handle reality and feeding each other's mental deficiencies.
>>59073424Genuine retard award
Knowing GF's track record of doing the lowest effort possible, I just expect a shitty 3D rendition of BW1 and pretend 2 never existed and call it a day.Hell, we could've gotten an amazing Emerald remake for 3DS but nooooo, they had to literally mean "it's a Ruby Sapphire remake, not Emerald. People hate the Battle Frontier anyway am I right? Also let's make the game laughably easy and a boring slog to get through"
>>59070622>Gen 5 replaced them with nothingAnd nothing of value was lost. I'll take the PWT any day over autistically training EVs and IVs.
>>59074049More people bought the lead pair than the rehash fuckwit. They pitch at the LCD, or did you fucking miss the 30 years of shilling a yellow rat flying orange lizard at normaltards? Small wonder, they remade RS, like they remade GS and RG before them, instead of pitching at the 2nd lowest audience per game sales (thus interest) in series history.
>>59072488HGSS included Crystal content, and even BDSP including the idea of having an E4 rematch team after Stark Mountain from Platinum. ORAS even mentioned the Battle Frontier, they literally didn't ignore it despite not including it.
>>59069858>they'd almost certainly make it bw1+2 where the bw2 content is treated mostly like kanto from gsc/hgssi stopped reading after this, you know nothing about this developer or this series, next.
>>59074095Are you seriously implying that the reason that 3rd versions didn't sell as well as the initial release is because people preferred the initial release......??????
>>59074208People prefer games with new content over lazy scam rehashes with barely any changes, correct.
>>59070517everything good about them comes from a game released 20 years ago and they sold them to you for $60 plus tax and tip
>>59074213(You)
>>59074213>release game>2 years later release identical game with more features and content>"yeah people obviously PREFER the first release even though they're identical bar the extra content. It's because people PREFER the first release that it sold more."
>>59074279People prefer games with new content over lazy scam rehashes with barely any changes, correct.
>>59074290>people prefer worse games because they played them firstNo. Why bother with remakes at all then
>>59074121Notice how none of that is a full remake of the rehash, but tipping winks to their existence. I look forward to N rebattles mentioning how he's going to continue Team Plasma as a society to help people and pokémon and how the cold storage area would make a BRILLIANT site to build a battle hall, but even your "gotcha" evidence just highlights how they won't in fact remake the rehash, despite you retard fuckers wanting one.
>>59074301Because retard kids are still being born, meaning there's millions of *new* players, who won't have been alive when Anon was a child, to sell the game to.
>>59074622I don't know what type of autism you have but saying:>It would be reasonable to expect these games to have content from their substantial expansion because of how unique it wasis not "a gotcha" it's "normal"schizo
>>59074639If you call differing team compositions "content" sure. But we both know you faggots aren't assuming team comp, but the entire plot and story of BW2 regurgitated, because "it's all the one" despite being based off two difference MC's, doing two different things and having two vastly different experiences (because by that stage Game Freak were TRYING to differentiate the rehashes from the base pair in a bid to boost sales XY2 was supposed to have Zygarde-C, USM had UN, BW2 had yet another third legendary super saiyan boost too, as if they WANTED the rehash to be more compelling a purchase than the first 4 gens of "the same game but slightly different" to "the same game but slightly more different than usual"). Yeah, that's all you've left - lashing out by calling names and trying to emotionally wound me, the same way I've ripped your heart and soul out. Not my fault you're a dumb cunt. You had 16 years and 6 since Game Freak ADMITTED it was just a rehash to handle it.
>>59074665You're not even making sense now.>dex double the size of the previous entry>different towns>different story>new forms>But it's a rehash because gamefreak listed it alongside other mid-gen games because that's what rehash means to me instead of its actual dictionary definition>also I RIPPED YOUR HEART OUT RRRAAAGHH!!!Retard lmao
I just don't think they're going to remake Gen 5I see another gen 1 remake more likely kek
>>59074761Making more sense than children expecting a rehash to be remade, because they ate the marketing so wholly and completely they then ignore Word of God's comments on it when the dust had settled. Because I'm not actually under any delusions of the potentiality of a rehash being remade along with a past paired game remake. I know it won't happen.
>>59074803What do you think Pokopia was sister?
>>59074933>I know this for a fact basic several years ago they grouped games everyone else always grouped together!
>still no actual counter-argument in favour of remaking the rehash beyond "i expects it and i'm impotent to them"
>>59075017>pointing out its significant differences doesn't count as evidence cus uh uh
>STILL cannot justify the production of a remake of a rehash beyond "but the tellyman TOLDS me it was am diffewent to de other rehashes">still thinking that means any kind of a fuck to the people who made them and who view the rehash as a rehash and not as a figment of marketing's imagination
>>59075145>STILL doesn't understand that half of a region's worth of content is relevant to decisionmaking compared to a single side area>STILL thinks that "we're not gonna do traditional 3rd versions any more" means they won't consider content from an exceptional game even though they have absolutely no relation to one anotherhonestly man this isn't even fun any more I know you've been trolling the whole time but it's just getting repetitive now
>still thinking attempting to justify a rehash's existence as anything but a rehash, in the face of the devs admitting it was so, will make a remake of said rehash to happenNot trolling, feel like bashing my head against a brick wall by how wilfully retarded you're being though. Ultimately decision rests with Nintendo as entity responsible for funding Game Freak pokémon development. And they won't bother funding 2 remakes at once, just the one of the game that had the most amount of sales to the most amount of people, as per usual. I don't doubt ILCA'll throw bones to BW2 in asides and such. But there won't be a "BW2 Redux" effort. Game Freak will need the release dates on the upcoming calendar years for their own new games meaning Nintendo won't bother wasting money and dev time having them made.
>>59075323you're an idiot that thinks that because bw2 came out after bw1 that it's a rehash. It is, by definition, not a rehash.you're an idiot that thinks that because gamefreak said "we're not doing upper games any more" it means they don't want to ever touch content from those games any more.you're an idiot who thinks that them mentioning something in passing 6 years ago, that was entirely irrelevant to their preferences or thoughts on whether it's worth touching again btw, is proof they have abandoned it entirely.you're an idiot who thinks yelling "I RIPPED OUT YOUR HEART" isn't sufficiently embarrassing to cease the argument.you're an idiot.
>says the spacker continuing to ignore Word of God already assigned them a role despite what the marketingman told xer 15 years agoStill not countering the issue at hand here. The DEVS don't fucking consider it anything but a secondary, meaning Nintendo won't give a monkey's flying fuck for it. Handle reality better, stop sperging out like an autistic chimp whose banana got stolen.
>>59075824>"word of god" is when they mention all the upper versions one time in a 6 year old video and don't say anything about whether they will or won't use content from any of them in the futuredidn't read the rest you're a retard
>spacker still insisting because she validates the rehash as something more, the developers and publisher are MANDATED to care tooTick-tock cunt. Gonna be fucking hilarious when it's JUST BW1 that gets remade and they tease, hint and reference the rehash, with no intent to follow up on it (like the other references to other rehashes from other remake projects acknowledging the original generational releases, but not actually caring about the rehash version enough tomake it the remake).
>>59075980>rehash rehash rehash>NO YOU DON'T GET IT A 5 SECOND CLIP FROM 6 YEARS AGO PROVES THEY'LL NEVER IMPLEMENT CERTAIN MATERIAL INTO A GAMEschizo
>desperate child continues to insist reality will warp to her wantsThe world truly is not ready for the future.
>>59076701>accusing me of what you're doing
>still projecting her incapability on meI'm not low IQ enough to think what they released is somehow different to how they acknowledged it for the final time as a concept 6 years after the fact though. Do you think if you insult me enough and defend marketing this hard, they'll get impressed and actually greenlight a rehash remake?
>>59076734You didn't even say anything of substance here. The fact is that bw2 are different than any other set of third versions and gf would be interested in representing that. Your clip from a single 6 year old video about something unrelated does not prove that they're not going to touch it. You're a retard, and that's that. Make sure you have fun with whatever next post you make, because I'm not reading it.
>it continues to spew its mental delusion, as it thinks its reading of the franchise is correct and true yet ignores critical info presented to it by the developersNo wonder the world's fucked today, when pre-teens from 2011 still haven't grown up after 15 years realtime passes.
