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The hate these guys get is so unwarranted. Every complaint I hear is fucking stupid.
>They're ugly
A lot of pokemon are ugly who cares?
>They're weak
Almost every early game pokemon gets outclassed as soon as you get to the fourth gym like Butterfree or raticate would get booted as soon as you get to surge.
>They make the first gym easy
See this one has always confused me, they're gift pokemon you're not obligated to use them if you don't want to. Them making an already easy fight easier is such a dumb complaint it's like getting mad at a game for giving you extra ammo before the first boss fight.
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inb4 not being able to use Pikachu in a BW playthrough was a factor.
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>>59089525
being ugly as a good enough reason to dislike a pokemon
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>>59089525
>they're gift pokemon you're not obligated to use them if you don't want to. Them making an already easy fight easier is such a dumb complaint it's like getting mad at a game for giving you extra ammo before the first boss fight.
i might agree with you if shitnova didn't have fuck all for team members before the first gym. fucking five? that's it?
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>>59089542
>fucking five? that's it?
You shouldn't need a team of 6 pokemon to deal with 2 pokemon. I'd understand this argument if you fought all three of them back to back but no you fight one of them and they only have lillipup and the monkey. If you really really want a team of 6 you could try and get an audino on route 2
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>>59089525
I don't really hate them per se but they're just really fucking boring. The same mediocre design taking up 6 fucking Pokedex slots. That'd be like Aipom and Ambipom having two counterparts that look almost just like them only with different types also taking up 6 fucking Pokedex slots.
If it was only Pansage and Simisage without the other 2 existing then Pansage and Simisage would probably be way more popular. Almost everyone I know can agree that Pansage/Simisage are the least offensive.
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A shame, because I actually really like Simisage and I think Simipour is neat, too. I feel like only Simisear is a dud..
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>>59089525
They're a mockery of your choice of starter, the monkeys and the gym exist as pure contrarianism
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>>59089668
I think it's kinda funny.
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>>59089525
They were also way overpopulated in Unova. Like every third trainer had them as well as both your rivals
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>>59089542
>fucking five? that's it?
It's four, isn't it? Just your starter, Patrat, Lillipup, and the monkey. Worse yet, Lillipup outclasses Patrat in every way so you basically don't have any choice beyond Starter/Lillipup/Monkey unless you want to exclude one specifically.
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>>59089525
I like them, I just find them a bit redundant, they were made in BW to give you a free counter type but nowadays with how bloated everyone makes their dex there's little point to them
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Everytime I would encounter one in BW, I would unleash my battlecry, screaming at the top of my lungs, until their sprite sunk into the depths of hell after my Delcatty(hacked into the game) mauled their faces off. I hate them I hate them I hate them.
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>>59089704
Purrloin as well, right?
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>>59089525
I wouldn't say I hate them the most, but I really dislike them, and have absolutely nothing positive to say about them.
Most other pokemon I dislike, I can still say nice things about. I cannot say any nice things about them.
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>>59089537
Right? There's over 1000 of them, I can afford to exclude as many as possible based on whatever qualities I want. I dislike the monkeys and their evolutions.
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>>59089525
Which would you rather take?
>Normal type baby that can evolve into each pan
>Evolutions for the simis
>Megas for the simis
>Regional forms
>"Do No Evil" line to complete the quartet
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Reminder
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>>59089576
audino isn't until after the first badge
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>>59089525
My only gen 5 is exposure is up to whatever city is next to pinwheel forest but some foid gave me the fire monkey and he is genuinely fucking terrible. I think my cum would do more damage than his incinerate move



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