>Emboar just has Mold BreakerOH NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59090381I mean, it's not awful, it's just not exciting.
What’s wrong with this…..
>b-b-but it will get supreme overlord
This is like getting left a $20 Olive Garden gift card in your father's will while your two siblings get the house and the Ferrari.
>>59090413But then grandpas lawyer reads the secret will that gives me 100 million and everyone claps
>>59090381Remember when people laughed at Incineroar getting an existing ability while the other 2 got brand new ones? Emboar won’t be as lucky
>>59090382Emboar's stats aren't exciting either. I will just be one of those megas that never see use in VGC and get banned in smogon's lower tiers
Beating Flash Fire is pretty good
>>59090381>with this statlineyeah this thing is completely DOAshouldn't have put unova garbage in the game instead of typhlosion
Glad Emboar will just fade in to obscurity as it was always destined to.
Mold Breaker Emboar can use Coaching on a partner with Contrary :)
>IT'S GONNA GET SUPREME OVERLORD YOU JUST WAITPress S
>>59090448>i-i-i-it can use fire moves against pokemon that already resist fire moves
>>59090468Flash Fire also would've powered their fire moves up, so you've avoided two negatives.
>>59090381Might as well have stayed with Reckless
>>59090468>Heatran>Resisting Fire
>>59090487Emboar would just use a fighting move against heatran
>Unawaremons get absolutely FUCKEDGood enough for me!
>Emboar used Yawn on GholdengoYeah I'm thinking he's broken.
>>59090381Kek oh no no no nooooo
>>59090471You wouldn't use fire on those pokemon anyway so there's no difference
>>59090515>I-I can click Yawn instead of just clicking a super effective STAB fire move and killing it!Yeah Emboartards are coping hard right now
>>59090538>I click a super effective STAB heterosexual move and kill youlol fag
Seems like a good counter to Friend Guard and other support abilities. It is weird how Emboar got an old ability while the other two get brand new ones. Feraligatr's pretty cool.
>>59090445Only retards laughedIntimidate is one of the best abilities in the game
>>59090381They really hate this fat fuck lmao
>>59090381I can think of maybe 2 situations this would be useful for. The emboar humiliation ritual continues
>>59090381>the other two got signature abilitiesWew Lad this mon is the definition of Failure
Couldn't they just fused Mold breaker with Supreme Overlord or something?
>>59090587Incineroar didn't get a signature ability in its trio, but it got Intimidate and every competitive move it could possibly want in return. This is just mean.
>>59090382It's genuinely awful. What purpose does it serve on Emboar, hitting Flash Fire mons with fire attacks you wouldn't use on them anyway?
>>59090613Ignores Levitate (Emboar learns Earthquake and Bulldoze)Ignores UnawareIgnores Rough Skin (Relevant to all contact moves)Ignores Armor Tail/Queenly Majesty (Emboar learns Sucker Punch)Ignores Friend GuardIgnores Clear Body (Emboar learns Bulldoze)Ignores Earth Eater (Emboar learns Earthquake and Bulldoze)Ignores Good As Gold (Emboar learns Will O Wisp and Yawn)Ignores Magic Bounce (Emboar learns Will O Wisp and Yawn)Ignores Lightning Rod/Volt Absorb (Emboar learns Thunderpunch and Wild Charge)Ignores Marvel ScaleIgnores Solid RockIgnores FilterIgnores Storm Drain/Water Absorb (Emboar learns Scald)Ignores Thick Fat (Relevant to all Fire moves)Ignores Thermal Exchage (Relevant to all Fire moves)Ignores Well-Baked Body (Relevant to all Fire moves)Ignores Flash Fire (Relevant to all Fire moves)Notice how many abilities at the end specifically interact with Fire type moves. Mega Venusaur has Thick Fat, Mega Baxcalibur is still going to have Thermal Exchange and Mega Heatran will probably still have Flash Fire (and even if he doesn't, he'll have it on Switch In as regular Heatran)
>>59090473Why use it over the base form who is stronger for having an item slot?
>>59090534>what is switching
>>59090742None of these people know what Switching Pokemon is, don't kid yourself.
>>59090381Incineroar was the only Alola Starter to not have a new hidden ability and he was the best of the bunch.
>>59090711Emboar realistically won't even be using most of those moves.
>b-b-b-buh I can burn Baxcalibur instead of just clicking the SE Fighting move against itThe level of cope from Emboarfags in this thread is hilarious. Enjoy your NU shitmon.
>>59090381Sad day for Emboarfags
>>59090770Yeah because Intimidate is one the best abilities in the game
>>59090381Why did everyone get this wrong and say Supreme Overlord?
>>59090381Bruh this is just sadIs it a meta joke about Gen 5 box legends or something I mean it’s a good ability but come on
>>59090462Anything with tickle can do that lol
>>59090742Something that is applicable to nearly every situation so certainly doesn't make Emboar's ability look better
>>59090868Retards trying to will their fanfiction into existence when everyone can see it wasn’t happening. You’re suppose to ignore them
What did the other two starters get?
>>59090868>say Supreme Overlord?Mostly because of its dex entry. >but why would you assume the dex means anything?Meganium's literally spoiled its new ability.
Why don’t they buff Mold Breaker to block intimidate?
>>59090905The gator got Dragonize.Meganium can fire off moves as if it's Sunny. So no-charge Solar Beam even under Rain
>>59090381Gotta EQ all those juicy levitate users that will OHKO this shitmon in turn 1.
>>59090382This. It's fine but it's not changing the game for boar>>59090711Ignoring unaware is probably the biggest one people forget about but you also forgot Sturdy and Multiscale
>>59090921Weather Ball always being Fire type is s bigger deal than 1 turn Solar Beam
>>59090853True love is better than that spaceship, at very least.It's going to run out of fuel and you're fucked.
>>59090921But is solar beam still halved in rain?Also does its weather ball get the sun boost on top of its power being doubled?
>>59090868Emboarfags coping
>>59090921I wonder if Meganium gets the power boosts from the Sun as well as part of the ability.
>>59090932Can Meganium learn Growth? Things might just get crazy if it can
ITT: We post Supreme Overlords
>>59090936The ability appears to activate and override the current weather if it's not sun
>>59090711 I know what you're trying to say, but why the fuck would you burn Gholdengo?
>>59090943No sadly. They need to fix that and just give Meganium a blanket movelist increase to include all abilities which have sun effects.
>>59090951So- Do meganium’s fire moves get the sun boost?- Do its water moves get the sun nerf?- Do the fire moves it takes get sun boosted?- Do the water moves it takes get sun nerfed?- Can it get frozen?- Can it dodge thunder and hurricane under rain? Blizzard under hail? What if it’s the one using those moves?- What happens when the opponent is holding an Utility Umbrella?- What about its ability being skill swapped to a mon that is holding the umbrella?
>>59090947Emboar bros we are not worthy..m.
>>59090943Sadly, no.Synthesis recovering 2/3 of its health with its bulk is pretty good.
>>59090977It doesn’t even get growth? Actual shitmon.But muh no drawback 120 bp grass move isn’t gonna save it
>>59090974It's simple, anything that doesn't interact with Meganium using a move isn't affected. Think of it like how Mold Breaker works.
>>59090974It says "Mega Meganium introduces the new Ability Mega Sol, which lets the Pokémon use its moves as if the weather were harsh sunlight".It only causes its moves to act as if sun was active when it uses them
You punch Dondozo and… that’s it!
>>59090989It's>120bp stab grass>always fire weather ball>full recovery from 25% health >can be used on weather teams with no Drawback whatsoever.
>>59090381Endless humiliation
>>59090868Because it is quite literally a Supreme Overlord
>Armor Tail>Battle Armor>Comatose>Dazzling>Disguise>Earth Eater>Filter>Flash Fire>Fluffy>Friend Guard>Fur Coat>Good As Gold>Gooey>Heatproof>Ice Face>Ice Scales>Inner Focus>Levitate>Liquid Ooze>Magic Bounce>Marvel Scale>Mirror Armor>Motor Drive>Multiscale>Prism Armor>Purifying Salt>Queenly Majesty>Sap Sipper>Shadow Shield>Shield Dust>Solid Rock>Soundproof>Ateam Engine>Sticky Hold>Storm Drain>Sturdy>Sweet Veil>Tera Shell>Thermal Exchange>Thick Fat>Unaware>Volt Absorb>Water Absorb>Water Bubble>Water Veil>Well-Baked Body>Wind Power>Wind Rider>Wonder Guard>Wonder SkinFigures, didn't want to commit to any specific role so they went & gave'm the ol Hoenn special
Supreme Overlord isn't even a good ability in the official metas, Mold Breaker is unironically better.
>>59090711I swear nobody knows which abilities Mold Breaker actually ignores so here's the Bulbapedia page:https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ignoring_AbilitiesThere are a few niche abilities where this is nice like OHKOing Terapagos through Tera Shell but for the most part this is pretty worthless. Even Thick Fat/Flash Fire are relatively uncommon abilities and most pokemon that get them tend to run something else or don't want to switch in on Emboar anyway. Ignoring Sturdy is also decent.Either way, really shitty ability. Frankly it's bad on Ampharos too but at least you could make the case that you can still use Volt Switch on Lightningrod/Volt Absorb. Emboar arguably has even less.
>NEW NEW ___They are not being subtle at all
Imagine if Mega Heatran gets Earth Eater and Mold Breaker lets Emboar counter it
>>59091042HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59090968If someone was aware your Emboar had Will O Wisp or Yawn, and was switching out to Gholdengo to avoid it (Not realizing Mold Breaker countered Good As Gold)
>>59091044You are a fucking retard.
>>59091088Care to back that statement up? Or are we just seething and coping?
>gets a good abilityThis is bad because..?
>TH-THE SHIT ABILITY IS GOOD!!
>>59090381>Literally worse than it's base form with recklessI'm pretty sure feraligatr is also worse than it's base sheer force as well What did gamefreak have against those 2?
>>59091165Meganium is the shillmons, that’s what the have against those two
>>59091042/vp/ are notoriously shit at competitive, Mold Breaker is better than supreme overlord for doubles.
>>59090921>boosted Dragon type Double Edgeneat
>>59090452You could've easily taken 30 points away from its spa and invested it into its Def
>>59090487>whole ability for the heatran match up (just use earthquake)
>>59091798erm bro? your tera flying heatean matchup?
>>59090381They could have just kept reckless honestly.
Imagine running any of the za starter megas when they are outclassed >Use Gyarados instead of toiletgatr >Rillaboomer instead of shitganium >Incineroar or Hisui Arcanine instead of Embort
>>59092291>Rillaboomer instead of shitganiumRillaboom doesn’t get immunity to Dragon moves, Fire coverage, 75% healing, or the strongest Solarbeam in the game for free, and is a physical attacker anyway as supposed to meganium which is special It’s hilarious how obvious it is that Meganium is the favorite.
>>59092315All that and RIllanigga will probably still get more usage
>>59090943Not yet
>>59090456>>59090464>>59090538>>59090587>>59090842
>>59091038>Shadow ShieldMold breaker does not, in fact, bypass shadow shield
>>59092291>>Rillaboomer instead of shitganiumThey have no overlap besides being grass types
>>59090381Yeah LOL Mold Breaker sucks asst. Tera Electric Air Balloon Shedinja
>>59092445Toxic victimWill o wisp victimTyranitar victim
>>59090711Emboar learns Scald?
>>59092458Yes. It had it since Black and White
>>59092458Hariyama also learns scald, they probably both get it because they're both big fat sumos.
At least it didn't get long reach like I've seen some guesses for
>>59091165Feraligatr got shafted as much as Emboar but people don’t want to admit it yet.
>>59093165>stronger double-edge than mega salamencevs>I can hit daschbun with fire moves nowfind a better cope, emboarcuck
>>59093165eh, not really. dragonize is good, gatr just got fucked on stats and can't really use it effectively.
>>59093172Feraligatr really wants Return back, dude.>>59093180Yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s held back by other things but it’s still shafted overall.
>>59090381>>59090452Grim.
>>59092315>It’s hilarious how obvious it is that Meganium is the favorite.Never thought I'd ever hear those words when referring to Gamefreak
>>59090934Then just wish for a spaceship that doesn't need fuel 5head
>>59090452LMFAO HOLY SHIT OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>59090387If you don't get a broken ability and 900 across all stats you are shitmon that will never be dexcut.
>>59092456>run specific counter that is easily telegraphed and the enemy will never anticipatelow ladder
>>59090381Local Mega rolls worst ability ever, is asked to leave OU
>>59093165Ehhh no. Emboar definitely got the worst Mega of the 3 and is the only one that got shafted.Meganium and Feraligatr got mega defining abilities that'll define what kind of sets they'll run. Emboar got Mold Breaker, which doesn't do much for it.Any Levitate Pokemon you could have easily used Flare Blitz, Close Combat, or Knock Off.Almost every Flash fire Pokemon resists Fire anyways and again you can just Close Combat, Knock Off, or Earthquake them.Pretty much the same story with every other immunity ability. You could have just used one of its coverage moves anyways.
Mold Breaker is only decent on Pokemon like Excadrill and Gyarados because they actually want to click their STABs/EQ on Pokemon that would be immune to it otherwiseMeanwhile with shitboar you’re almost never going to need EQ over Flare Blitz or Close Combat and anything that’s immune to Flare Blitz you would rather click Close Combat against anyway.
>>59090711>LevitateYou can just use Knock Off, Flare Blitz, or Close Combat>UnawareOnly useful if you are using Bulk Up, and most Unaware Pokemon beat Emboar anyways.>Rough SkinMold Breaker does nothing as Rough Skin doesn't change alter damage output>Anti-priority abilitiesVery very niche cases as there are like 3 of them. It doesn't ignore Psychic Surge. And Mega Emboar is also faster than Tsareena and Farigiraf anywyas.>Ignores Friend GuardA better ability like Tough Claws effectively ignores Friend Guard too.>Clear BodyBesides Tentacruel and Dragapult, Emboar is faster anyways>Earth EaterThe one Pokemon that has this ability is a Steel type. You know, a type weak to both of Emboar's STABs?>GoGSame as above, nigga. And Gholdengo is a special attacker, so only Yawn is even remotely useful.>Magic BounceAlso see above. The only Pokemon it could potentially affect with Will-o-wisp that badly would be Diancie (which is a mythical and banned (and would beat Emboar anyways))>Lighting Rod/Volt AbsorbThere are no non-electric type Volt Absorb Pokemon. Additionally Rhydon line is still immune, Marowak-A is weak to Knock Off, and Mega Sceptile is x4 resistant to Electric.The one Pokemon this would even be useful against is Seaking (and Close Combat is just as strong as wild charge would be)>Marvel ScaleJust solely Milotic as FE rep, which you lose to anyways.>Solid Rock/FilterSee Friend Guard section>Storm Drain/Water AbsorbSee Electric Immune section>Thick FatThe first actual useful usecase for Mold Breaker. And its only really relevant against Mega Venusaur.>Thermal ExchangeDoes nothing. Even with Wow, Baxcalibur (an Ice type) will actually cure the burn anyways.>Well-Baked BodyWell, it'll definitely be useful for where Emboar is going>Flash FireEvery Flash Fire Pokemon can be hit by either Earthquake, Close Combat, or Knock Off, and most resist Fire anyways.
>>59090711>Ignores Well-Baked BodyThis is relevant because of the tier this will be in
>>59093819Pretty much. Even vs heatran flashfire you can just CC it after. There's no real ability you want to be ignoring with emboar Gonna be a megas that's just strictly worse than the original
>>59093761>specific counter>status movesYou were talking about yourself when you said low ladder, I assume
>>59093165feraligatr gets even stronger outrage (thrash)emboar getsuhhhummm
>>59090452>SpA being that high>Speed being in that deadzone For what fucking reason? Why the fuck did they not do what they did to some Pokemon in 2013 and 14 where they nuked one stat so the Mega would have more than 100 points they could distribute. How did they not learn their lesson with Hisuian Decidueye having a high SpA stat but fuck-all to do with it?
>>59090574It and Typhlosion. I know it got a Hisuian form but they really said ‘fuck you’ by making its HA Frisk
>>59094317Game Freak has always hated Typhlosion because they’re bitter that Masuda made them replace that shitty pikachu ripoff from the beta with Cyndaquil. (As to why Cyndaquil never benefited whe Masuda was in charge, he’s was too busy shilling the fuck out of Charizard to actually care. Shit, The fact that it got a regional replacement in the first place instead of a mega like the shillmons is on itself proof that they hated it. The Hisuian from was made it as a joke, it was intended to be a flop, but game freak were so retarded that they accidentally made a ghost type with eruption and against all odds it was somehow decent. But imagine how good it would have been it was allowed to have an ability
>>59094317As to why Emboar got fucked, it punishment for being from Masuda’s “magnum opus”
>>59090711Mold Breaker is a good ability. There’s no question it’s a good ability. It just isn’t exciting and new. It isn’t borderline broken like Dragonize (seriously Feraligator just got scary) or unique and interesting like Mega Sol. It’s just… mold breaker.
>>59094315They keep trying to make mixed attackers a thing. They’re not interesting in open team sheet but they keep making em.
>>59092315It’s criminal that Meganium doesn’t even get growth. Every fucking grass type gets growth and the one single pokemon in the entire franchise that would like to use it can’t get it
Guys I figured out a use for Mold breaker! You can hit Mega Delphox with EQ because it resists both of Emboars stab.
>>59091012It can use grass knot
>>59092513Whats the logic behind them being sumos and getting scald? They serve the tea hot or whatever that phrase is?
>>59094413>>59092513Not anymore baby, scald is now retconned to Volcanion’s signature move. No burn chance for you.
>>59091081Hmm, today I will switch my steel type into a fire type.
>>59090407>emboarfags coping that they will get the same ability for their shitpig that saved Kingambit from being an NUmon like its pre evo Bisharp
The problem with megas is that there's no reason to use the good mega over the disgustingly good one, as long the one mega per team limit existsBeing the second best mega only means you're in the loser group
Emboar breaks the mold!
>>59094465Kingambit was saved by having good stats, Defiant is way more common than Supreme Overlord regardless.>>59094473What they should do>any pokemon can mega evolve, it doesn't need to be holding the stone>when you mega evolve, you drop your held itemYou still get the balance of mega-evolving meaning no held item, but you can realistically run multiple megas and choose one situationally, rather than having to build your team around it which means only bringing the best possible mega.
>>59090381>Ignores Mega Dragonite's MultiscaleYep I'm thinking he's broken
>>59093165>Shafting is not getting fishious rend + strong jawkys mega is toilet is already way better than it has any right to be
