>Mega Meganium will have the newly discovered Ability Mega Sol, which lets the Pokémon use its moves as if the weather were harsh sunlightSHEFUCKINGWON. APOLOGIZE
>>59090514TOTAL VICTORY
>>59090514Aside from Solar beam spam, what else does she get out of this?
>>5909064166% healing Synthesis, Fire-type Weather Ball. Growth (if it learns it in gen 10)
>>59090655I do like grass with fire moves. Scovillain was really fun to use. I'm sold on this.
CompleteChikoVictoryYears upon years of getting shittalked at every turn, but I always knew we were number one.
Have all the abilities dropped? What are the others?
>>59090514Uh, Typhlosionbros? Feraligatrsisters?? Are we the weakest starters now?
>>59090655If it got a stronger Fairy move like Moonblast, that would be great as well.
>>59090808Doesn’t fera get a dragon ate ability?
>>59090514I kneel, Meganium-sama...
>>59090808Always were.
>>59090777Chiko was always good.It's a stalling mon and a really good one.
>>59090655>No GrowthDamn. It's still the best of the three but that's a big letdown.
>>59090818That would've been news before the Fairy type existed.
>>59090655>66% SynthesisKeep on stallin, stallin, stallin.
>ask for one turn solar beams>get this >grass/fire/fairy coverageWON
I mean she still dies to mence, but she's finally usable.
>Mega Meganium can fire solar beam in a single turnACK’s favorite pokemon
>>59090980Salamence is getting banned to Ubers in Smogon If VGC yeah Mence just makes every mega ever obsolete especially if he has a coaching mon standing next to him
>>59090813Honestly it doesn’t need it. Fire-type Weather Pool with potentially a free STAB boost and not caring about other weather is much more powerful.>>59090818Yeah, but Dragon-type moves are far from their peak nowadays. And Feraligatr really wanted more speed. Liquidation is also pretty middling without Sheer Force. Overall it could be worse, but it also could be much better.
>>59091433Weather Ball*, not pool. Whoops.
>>59090514>Mega Feraligatr’s newly discovered Ability Dragonize turns Normal-type moves into Dragon-type moves and boosts their power by 20%.this is worse than it getting Strong Jaw. IT ONLY HAS DOUBLE-EDGE, NOTHING ELSE. This motherfucker needed Dragon's Maw instead
>>59091440It has thrash, retard
>>59091459Literally begging to get buttraped by fairies.
>>59091459>It has Thrash Incredibly unfortunate for him.
WE FUCKING WON
>>59091491You still don't have Growth. Don't get too far ahead of yourself.
>>59091459>its ability exists solely so it can use Outrage but slightly strongerDragons aren't beating the "only good for spamming Outrage/Draco Meteor" allegations.
>>59091465Outrage is still a good move despite fairies existing
>>59091440And Body SlamAnd Facade if anyone tries to burn itAnd these moves are getting a 70% boost (50% from STAB + 20% from the ability)
>>59091501Solar Beam/Weather Ball/Dazzling Gleam/Synthesis is still a retardedly good moveset to have on a casual level.Sure, it's still gonna get mogged by the VGC greatest hits in Champions, that's just the nature of a comptard game where you NEED to be as optimal as possible, but in romhacks, Meganium is unironically going to be a high-tier pick, even in hacks where they stay purist about types, stats and learnsets.
>>59091501my fucking penis just used Growth upon seeing this ability
>>59091509>And these moves are getting a 70% boost (50% from STAB + 20% from the ability)That actually makes it 80%. The multipliers are stacked not added up
ACK baiting predicted mega meganium’s ability
>>59091538how
>>59091504it really, REALLY isn't. physical attacking dragons run scale shot these days, and if they don't have scale shot they just don't run dragon stab.
Elite Redux did it first
>>59091566Elite Redux got that from Inclement Emerald, actually.
>>59091541solar beam
>>59090514Meganium being able to breath fire whenever now is hilarious to me
>>59091440Toss-up. I’d argue this one is better solely because of Double Edge and Facade, whereas the other one only really could abuse Outrage. It’s still not amazing, but it could’ve been worse.
>weedle used poison sting
>>59090514I wonder what makes GF decide to megabuff some starters and leave others in the dust?Anyway give Primarina Boomburst
>>59090514
>>59091738Boomburst? Did you mean Explosion the move that is loud and makes a sound? Sure thing, Primarina. Here you go
>>59091738because some starters are shillmons while others were made out of spite to flop
>>59091795Mega toilet can’t possibly be a shillmon
Special is definitely better, but a drawback-free Solar Blade is still pretty cool>Swords Dance/Curse>Solar Blade>Synthesis>EQ/Knock Off/Body PressPhysical Megainiumchads rise up
>>59091834Meganium gets solar blade? But not growth? What
>>59091773KINO
>>59090514does that mean you can run it on a rain team for the fire resist and still get all of the sun benefits?
>>59092004>Causes the moves Sunny Day, Rain Dance, Sandstorm, and Hail to fail if used. This cannot be subverted even with Cloud Nine or Air Lock>Causes the Abilities Drought, Drizzle, Sand Stream, and Snow Warning to fail. This cannot be subverted even with Cloud Nine or Air Lock.No
>>59092039source on this?
>>59092045https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rainhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Harsh_sunlight
>>59092051That's for heavy rain (primordial sea)
>>59092054It's for all Rain effects, go ahead go search Rain Dance and it'll send you to the same link
>>59092074did you miss the header in the "effects" section separating the effects of normal rain from heavy rainlook a little closer
>>59091834Goddamn she’s thick
>>59092085Are you messing with me or are you knew to Pokémon, it's not only talking about the overworld, all you need to do is scroll down, but since you're stuck on reading just the header, I'll give you an another linkhttps://www.serebii.net/games/weather.shtmlYou'll see it will say the same things as the Pedia
>>59092097...yeah, which further proves my point. it's under "heavy sunlight" and "heavy rain" and the site specifies that this refers to desolate land and primordial sea respectivelynot sure if you're baiting or just retarded
>>59092097Heavy Rain specifically refers to the rain summoned by Kyogre's ability and nothing else. Any other rain can be overwritten by any other weather at any time, and this has been the case since Gen 2 introduced the mechanic.
>>59092124*Primal Kyogre's ability, sorry
>>59092004>>59092039The fact that they showed Meganium's Solar Beam one-shotting Politoed in the trailer would suggest it isn't being weakened by the rain. I'm pretty sure the ability makes it so all Meganium's moves act as if they're in the sun, no matter the weather. That would include Weather Ball being a boosted fire-type move, even in rain.
>>59092194Yeah, meganium pretty much ignores all weather in favor of its own mega sol ability exclusively for its turn.So you can let it run in rain/snow/sand and it doesn't do anything to said weather.Whether its weather ball remains intact under rain is a different thing, I hope it does, imagine just running that under rain.
Why waste a mega slot on shitganium when I can always use Ogerpon or Rillaboomer?
>>59092097>Only differences between Sunlight and Harsh Sunlight just affects opponents water moves (which the ability doesn't apply to them) or setting up other weathers (which since the weather isn't actually set I doubt will be prevented). What's the point of having this be harsh sunlight? In fact, more is listed under normal sunlight that's not under harsh sunlight. Granted I think that's just Joe missing information because I see no reason why Solar Blade would need a charging turn under harsh sunlight. The rest can be forgiven as they've never existed in a game with Primal Groudon
>>59092276If ZA is anything to go by, perhaps they realized the 1 per team limitation doesn't encourage diverse team building but just encourages using the same few OP Megas
>>59092276The biggest problem with megas is how they compete with each other.Meganium can fire Solar Beams? That's real nice and all but why run that over Kangaskhan or Salamence?
>>59091421Mence can't do shit against Mega Metagross
>>59090514I'm glad
>>59092332'cause it's sick as fuck. that's a good enough reason for me
>>59091440Return could... return.
>>59092572*can return.
>>59092334base meta can't switch in and tank two hits without significant hp investmentnot a counter
>>59092633>EarthquakeNo one is talking about the meme single formats
>>59092194>>59092204this. almost all weather modifiers to moves are factored in during base power calculation, which is on the attackers side. meganium will therefore get a 100bp fire type weather ball with the 50% sun boost
>>59090514>252+ SpA Kyogre-Primal Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Meganium-Mega: 246-290 (81.7 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>252+ SpA Meganium-Mega Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre-Primal: 306-362 (89.7 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKOVindication.
>>59090963>>grass/fire/fairy coverage>WONEarth power/Quake too
>>59090514basedganium
>>59091459You mean it is trash.
>>59093069>Only Fire/Flying Pokemon aren't covered by this for at least neutralThere goes them shilling Charizard again
>>59090914>Weedle used Poison Sting!
Mega Dragonite has MultiscaleMega Froslass has Snow Warming
>>59092004It's worded kind of ambiguously so it could either be really good in rain if its moves fully ignore it (one-turn full power Solar Beam, 66% healing synthesis, Fire-type pseudo-STAB Weather Ball that doesn't get weakened by rain) or kind of shit if it doesn't (one-turn Solar Beam but with 50% power, 25% healing synthesis, Fire-type unboosted Weather Ball that gets weakened by rain)
>>59090514>SHE
*Grimer used Clear Smog*>M Meganium has fainted!
>>59095057Yes, her
looks like the leak is true, you can now apologize to this lion. It sounds like its new ability is Gale Wings except the activation condition is just sitting in the sun
>>59094994see >>59092194
