Wow this thing is broken
Does it finally get Dragon Dance?
>>59092580151 speed is basically a free DD
>>59092580So fast it doesn't need it. And solo dragon type makes it bulky as shit
>>59092577Of course it is, its made to be abused in CHAMPIONSOOOO
>>59092580It gets Nasty Plot, a normal Ice weakness, and a speed tier above fucking Electrode
>>59092580DD does fucking nothing for Garchomp at this point because of how stupid power creep has gotten.
So what's the point of the original Mega Chomp now?
>>59092817Nothing. Replace your old toys with new ones.
>>59092817There arguably never WAS any point to Mega Garchomp, that base Speed drop made it completely worthless in serious play.
>>59092817A failed sand sweeper. They didn't needed to increase it's speed to make M-Chomp good, if it keeps it's original speed it would be as good or better than normal Chomp but by decreasing it's speed they made sure no one would ever bother with it.
>>59092817Use on balance teams with Ttar to assfuck stall
>>59092817I get the impression that when designing the XY megas they intended for megas to be a permanent thing, so tried to vaguely balance them. Garchomp lost speed and got the spread it did to make sure it wouldn't be too overwhelming (in a rich get richer kind of way). But by ORAS they knew it was just going to be a gimmick they'd ditch so said fuck it and made shit like Mega Mence and Mega Gross and the power scale shifted completely.Mega Chomp Z is just part of that new era, rendering the old one useless (even if it looks way better, Chomp Z looks like ass)
>>59092817Romhacks!Give it to a lategame boss, and give the Z version to an endgame boss.
>>59093591Mega Mence and Mega Metagross existing basically invalidated all other Mega’s from ORAS. Mega Khan still dominated during Gen 6 but there were rogue options like Gengar, Mawile, the Zards, Gyarados and a few others in XY. Once those two got released everything not named Mega Khan got invalidated by how ridiculously powerful those two were.
>>59093591>I get the impression that when designing the XY megas they intended for megas to be a permanent thing, so tried to vaguely balance them.I dunno man, Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Lucario and Mega Gengar were all introduced in XY and gave balance the middle finger.
>>59092817Z-A made it useful
>>59092817The entire point of the Z Megas was to give shillmons good Megas since their first ones flopped.
>>59092817Being able to fucking attack>Chomp Z gets all its offensive stats into SpA, which is still only 140 against Mega Chomp's 170 Atk>Its special learnset is fucking ass, hope you like Draco Meteor and Earth Power they're now your only useful STAB moves>oh wait you lost Earth Power STAB my bad>but at least you're obviously getting fucking levitate as an ability since we're seeing you fly around and you lost your ground typing, which is good because you didn't need the boost from Sand Force to do anything meaningful before.Mega Chomp Z is going to see no fucking use. Congratulations, you're fast. You can't outspeed non-mega Chomp under Tailwind and you gave up all your offensive presence, but you're fast.
>>59094591No idea what they were thinking making it Monotype and giving it Mixed Attacking stats. Dragon/Ground is one of the best STAB combos and generally worth the 4x Ice damage.
>>59093591Megas were clearly meant to stay, and only got shafted in gen 8 because they conflicted with Leon's gigantamax ace.
>>59094762>Megas were clearly meant to stayI want to believe that, and I know they wanted to focus on Z-Moves in Gen VII but it's still weird that they just carried over Megas without adding new ones, not even in the Ultra games. Still it is nice that they got carried over at all but it never gave me confidence that they would survive the addition of yet another gimmick in Gen VIII.
>>59092817It's point was to be "balanced" because of how "OP" base Garchomp was.Nevermind that they went and created Mega Metagross and Mega Mence right afterwards.GF for some reason continues to believe Garchomp is this super duper OP monster that must be kept "balanced" or else it will ruin everything. Why else would they remove Ground from this one too? There's a reason why they still refuse to give it DD despite power creep getting so bad it would now just be okay at best even with it.It's depressing. One of the few with the luxury of two Megas and both of them got fucked over.
