AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
>>59097218Only actual winner here was Meganium.
>>59097218>New>New>.......ETERNAL HUMILIATION RITUAL
They couldn't even be bothered to give Mold Breaker a new Signature Name or something like they did with Protean/Libero to at least give the illusion it's unique for Mega Emboar, they give absolutely zero fucks about this fat fuck.
>>59097218Honestly should have just kept Reckless.
Meganium is so fucking dogshit its mega doesn't only need a fucking fairy type but an absurdly overtuned unique ability to actually make it good lmfao
>>59097218I just knew they were going to make M-Meganium the best one
>>59097276Good, I hate when they do that.
>>59097218>raped by Salamence>raped by Salamence>raped by SalamenceYeah, it's hilarious we waited 10 years for new Megas just for them to be worse than the reigning king.
>>59097218I got a feeling all three will just be ok, nothing busted
>>59097571Its funny how balance is thrown out the window everytime they make a Salamance variant. Even Charizard doesn't get that sort of favoritism
>>59097591Not getting Mega Charizard Z surprised the hell outta me
>>59097229>>59097559It was the blatant Shillmon of the trio. Which is ironic seeing as it’s the quadruped. Forever disproving the idea of quadrupeds being unshillable >>59097276That because game freak hates masuda and emboar is from “masuda’s magnum opus” >>59097577Meganium has 75% healing, fire coverage, and the strongest Solarbeam in the game that don’t even need to be charged. It’ll be the one defensive mega to make it.
>>59097229Embort cope
>>59097602AND Meganium can run on rain teams, giving it a layer of safety from fire due to rain reduction, while also using its offensive kit to cover the average rain setup's weaknesses.
>>59097276Mega Emboar isn't a shillmon like Cinderace and Greninja
>>59097615In a few months when Feraligatr sees little to no usage will you cease your incessant hopeposting?
>>59097218Can Emboar play off-support?
>>59097218I feel so bad for embort. He flopped hard.
>>59097218>Flopped as a starter in BW>Flopped as a starter in BW2>Flopped as a starter in ZAJFC this is next level flopping
>>59097218STOP HE'S ALREADY DEAD
>>59097218I like how they even put a shiny “NEW” label next to Feraligatr and Meganium’s abilities. Pure humiliation ritual.
Johto Starters looking good. They should've just gone with Mega Typhlosion instead of Emboar.
>>59097218Calling it now - We will get Mega Typhlosion, Samurott, and Serperior in gen 10 to fill out the gen 2 & 5 starter megas. Typhlosion will get a unique new ability while the gen 5 shitters get crappy old abilities because nobody likes gen 5.
>>59097547>shit on Meganium for over 2 decades for being shit>GF finally gives it a Mega>Still kind of shit, but there's still hope for a good ability to save it>gets good ability that saves it>"hurr, it was so bad, it needed buffs to be good!"Are you faggots EVER happy?? Holy shit.
so what does mega sol do? Does it just turn solarbeam into "mega sol cannon" or does it increase damage for certain moves or what?
>>59098041makes Solar Beam not require a chargemakes Synthesis heal 2/3 HPmakes Weather Ball a Fire-type effective 150 BP move
>>59098041Solar beam is always a 1 turn nuke. Weather ball is always fire type (giving Meganium the coverage it DESPERATELY needed for steels), and Synthesis heals 100% of health.Its an extremely good ability for thoae 3 reasons alone.
>>59098032Typhlosion and Samurott got Hisuian forms so no.
>>59098041Meganium acts as if Sunny Day is always active. It's very cool.
>>59098053> Synthesis heals 100% of health.67%
>>59098059SIX SEVVVENNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>59097571Holy FVARKING Based
>>59098059HE SAID 6 7 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>59098049>>59098053>>59098058That IS really cool. Neat. Hope other mons get the ability in the future too.
I for one think Mega Sol is an extremely selfish ability that doesn't do much beyond benefit the one that has it. Doesn't fucking help sunny day teams at all.
>>59098098>suntard too busy thinking about his own team comptypical ranchad W
>>59097218>Mega sol>solKILL ALL BEANERS!!
>>59098054We've already gotten megas for mons that also got regional forms.
>Dragonize will turn Slash into a better Dragon Claw with a high crit rate>Thrash becomes Outrage with more damage>Dragon Type Double EdgeI was expecting Strong Jaw. This is neat.
>>59097547>OvertunedIt’s functionally Drought but for itself. You can use it Rain but that also means you can’t override it. So if you’re fighting a Swift Swim Pokemon, you can’t deactivate Swift Swim. Or if you’re in Sand, you’re still affected by Sand chip. And of course you can’t support your team.I personally think its an overall better ability, but Drought has advantages over it.
>>59098098Mega Meganium could actually see some use on Rain teams like how Walking Wake is seen on Sun teams. You can break bulky waters like Alomomola with Solar Beam, and break Ferrothorn with Weather Ball that acts like its in Sun.
>>59098098Put it on a rain team retard
>>59098041It treats all your moves like Harsh Sunlight is up, regardless of what weather is currently on the field.
>>59098138only KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mons have gotten mega and regionals
>>59098217Wouldn't Weather Ball still get reduced effectiveness due to the rain?
>>59098227No, because Meganium's attacks all assume sun is up regardless of the actual weather.
>>59098227We don’t know if it would choose either a sun or rain boost, or if it would apply both essentially nerfing weather ball to 100 BP.
>>59097218so is this just pokemon stadium with 95% of the content removed? im very fucking bored and considering a switch 2 but the lineup is not convincing
>>59098227no, we know that it always considers the weather as sun in damage calculation because the trailer shows politoed being oneshot by solarbeam, which isn't possible if it was affected by the rain halving solarbeam damage.
>>59098233That's what I mean though.>Mega Sol transforms Weather Ball to Fire-type>Rain field effect then halves the damage>>59098246Oh alright that answers it then, neat ability and an appropriate mon to give it toNow if only Meganium had Growth it'd really get to shine.
>>59098251Rain doesn't exist at all as far as the attack is concerned.
>>59097276Dragonize is just another -ize ability, not even a unique name
>>59098285Yep and they couldn't even be bothered to do that with Emboar
>>59097276Johto wins again. Being KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOO's backyard really does pay off.
>>59098251>if only Meganium had Growth it'd really get to shineThere’s no if about it. Meganium’s one of the biggest shillmons in the franchise from here on out. It’s getting Growth, and probably a fuckton of other moves Iif ot actually needed anything else
>>59098285>I-i-its just the same TYPE of name so its not new hahaha!! See? Emboar isnt the only one with a nothing used goods ability lmao rofl!!!Seethe
>>59098208drought only lasts 5 turnsmeganium gets permanent sun effects
>>59097547Meganium was always awesome actually.
>>59098380Yeah I know, that's why I said it's an overall better ability.
>>59098383wrong
>>59097229Why did it win?
>>59097229Incorrect
>>59098437>Gets Slower>Not only doesn’t get a new ability, it replaces Flash Fire with FriskTypedo lost
>>59097571based
>diddyphlosion
>>59098437How does that help the OG?
>>59097218Do not go on any forums or twitter post about this, its all complaining about meganium haters being misogynistic
>>59097218>one starter gets a gamebreaking ability>another starter gets a legitimate downgrade from their standard Overgrowth/Blaze/Torrent abilityWhy does this keep happening?
>>59098037This website is full of miserable people who like to be contrarian. Hell the internet in general full of that same negativity these days.
>>59098471Because Game Freak hates some Pokemon. Thats been apparent from the beginning. And some /vp/edos are legit retarded enough to say all starters are shillmons
>>59098464It's mostly Meganiumfags celebrating and Emboarfags crying about why Game Freak hates them
>>59098513Mold Breaker isn't bad. It's not GREAT, but it's still usable. The real loser is Feraligatr. Dragonize gives it a Dragon-type Double Edge and a slightly stronger Outrage. Why?
>>59098471Because the only reason some mons exist is to make others look better, and if they didn't have that function, they wouldn't exist, period, and be replaced with a mon that's effortlessly more appealing.
>>59098619>Mold Breaker isn't badYes it is.
>>59098634Mold Breaker IS good. Fire STAB hitting Heatran or something for example. It's just not optimal.
>>59098638>I can hit a single pokemon I would rather hit with my other STAB anyway
>>59098638It's also just not worth spending your one-per-battle Mega Evolution on unless the Mega in question is Mega Rayquaza-tier, you NEED godly stats to offset the fact you don't get the privilege of Held Items or an offensive-boosting ability. And Emboar simply does not have that, 148/110 is too weak when there's going to be so many modifiers surrounding it.
>>59097591Even the base form was overturned the second physical/special split became a thing. It arguably had a more dominant competitive run than Garchomp as it’s special snowflake forms are actually good.
>>59098663Such is the power of Intimidate, an ability so ruthless that even to this very day it's still having multiple abilities be made or reworked specifically to have counter-interactions or outright immunity.
>>59098665>turn 0 unstoppable 33% attack debuff on all of enemy’s Pokemonwhat were they thinking
>>59098437>ugly ass rapist regional variant
>>59098642You really can't imagine a scenario where having a safe click could be good?
>>59098730you already have a “safe click”, it’s called using close combat
