>>59098272>implying gatr will be good
>>59098272Punishment for being Masuda's magnum opus.
>>59098277I like how emboartards completely gave up on even trying to pretend mold breaker is a good ability and are now just trying to drag down chadigatr with them kek
>>59098272>Gatr thinks he's being used compare to swampertHow do we tell him?
>>59098284>implying barafags shit on their own
>>59098277>>59098288> Dragon Dance/Sword Dance, Thrash, Outrage or Giga Impact> Paired it up with a Prankster Pokemon with Will o Wisp, Facade = Bye Bye> Liquidation and Water STAB moves against Fairy Types = Hasta la vista
>>59098272i'm using him b/c i like him and i think he's cool
>>59098288It certainly does outdamage the shit out if swampert with water attacks yes
>>59098272Mold Breaker is a good ability even if it's boring. Gatr is the one that got shafted.
>>59098369Mold Breaker is shit if the mon carrying it cant utilize it properly. Hardly anything has an ability-based resistance to its STABs so its trash.Megagatr gets a 1.5x plus 20% boost to crazy strong normal type moves, even with minimal SE options that shits all over Emboar's sloppy seconds.
>>59098369>Mold Breaker on a Pokemon that doesn't need it is good>Turning Normal moves into STAB Dragon moves and additionally giving them a 20% bonus is being shaftedHoly cope.
>>59098369You already on life support the moment your fat tribal pumbaa received the moldy broker.
>>59098272All three get raped and left beaten in a dark alleyway by the KING of Megas anyway, so you have zero incentive whatsoever to use them.Dragonite's obviously fucked thanks to Incineroar clapping its cheeks with Fake Out before Mence comes in with Outrage, and even Mega Froslass can still get dicked over if it loses the speed tie since its defense stat isn't living any firm STAB hit from Mence.
>>59098272Just a reminder252 SpA Mew Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Emboar-Mega: 228-270 (63.1 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252 SpA Mew Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Emboar: 234-276 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252 Atk Reckless Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Mew: 205-243 (50.7 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252 Atk Emboar-Mega Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Mew: 196-232 (48.5 - 57.4%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO252 Atk Emboar Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Tera Dragon Mew: 171-202 (42.3 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO252 Atk Emboar-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Tera Dragon Mew: 196-232 (48.5 - 57.4%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKOLike with Mega Malamar, Mega Emboar is just a glorified Assault Vest user. Reckless ends up doing more damage with Flare Blitz and your coverage moves are only slightly stronger. You're literally just better off using Assault Vest Emboar.
>>59098469252 Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Feraligatr-Mega: 211-249 (67.8 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252 Atk Dragonize Feraligatr-Mega Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence-Mega: 312-368 (94.2 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
>>59098483This is VGC Doubles though, being able to shred over 50% of an opponent's health is basically a death sentence because you can just target Gatr with both of your mons, and Mence's ally will finish the job (especially because Gatr has a paltry 78 base speed, unless Trick Room is up that nigga ain't outspeeding whoever's complimenting the rape dragon).
>>59098489>But my (LGBTQ+) Allies!If Mega Salamence gets to factor in having allies, so does Mega Feraligatr. And if you’re going to factor in potential allies, you just end up with “anime character teleporting behind each other” type of arguments, so it’s best to just ignore them.
>>59098272Toiletgatr fags coping hard
>>59098501>faggots out of nowhereObsessed.
>>59098506Emboarfags seething they got pipped at the gen 9 finish line by a faggotsaur and a toilet
does mold breaker mean you ignore intimidate or is it just for moves you use because ignoring intimidate is actually very good
>>59098813Iol, no It just let mega emboar to attack without worrying about abilities like sturdy, levitate or flash fire
>shatmurott get regionally replaced>embort get a worse mega than pyroar>seperior is still just a worse meganium, even without the megaGF truly despise unova
>>59098469MY FUARKIN HEROOOOOOOOOOO
>>59098842Thats so shit lol
>>59098469>252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Froslass-Mega in Snow: 250-295 (88.9 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKOIronically Mega Froslass might actually take this one.
>>59100290If Salamence is using Adamant, its no running Jolly and thus Froslass outspeeds it.
>>59100300Yeah, it was just to demonstrate even Adamant doesn’t guarantee the the KO and that Froslass can be deceptively bulky.
>>59098272All 3 will see little to no usage at VGC Regionals. OU at least bans the broken megas so Mega Meganium will be viable there. Mega Feraligatr falls to UU/UUBL, it could have maybe been OU viable if the spatk buff went to speed instead but with no speed buff it can't keep up with gen 9 powercreep. Mega Emboar is just shit even in Singles.
>>59098277>>59098284Why are Lumiose’s finest shitters turning on each other :(
>>59101400Meganium gets all the benefits of sun and can be used on rain teams (the most broke weather). Yes it gets bodied by the strongest megas but that’s what teammates are for. It’s quite literally the best grass type in the game tied with BaraGorilliaofGrassyTerrian
None of the ZA megas will see any play once the new toy syndrome fades
>>59098469>>59100239>252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Chimecho-Mega: 129-152 (36.4 - 42.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKOThe hell’s a Mega Salamence, never heard of itIf it loses Levitate, max HP Mega Chimecho takes 67.7% - 80.2% from EQ but it’s reasonable to assume it’ll keep Levitate
>>59098284Mold Breaker is fine. What's gay is he didn't get his own special snowflake ability like the others. Did Game Freak not think people would notice?
>>59101400Emboar and gatr will be like Mega Sceptile where they’ll see some usage but won’t see success.
>>59101562Its not because if you are using your precious mega slot why choose an ugly pig with a very situational ability over something thats basicly "i press mega button now its go time"? For other mons with mold breaker they rather use other abilities too which far less situational or straight up shits over mold breakerSomething like rock head would be much better but that makes him kind of hisuian arcanine copypaste so i get why they didn't do that
>>59101562Mold Breaker is pointless like the rest of Mega Emboar.Slap an Assault Vest and Reckless on an Emboar and you get 90% of the same experiance, but without wasting a Mega Slot.Emboar really needed something that was universally useful like Tough Claws or Adaptability or even a reskin or Neuroforce.
>Incin: Busted HA>Scor: Busted HA>H-Ty: Useless HA [and terrible implications]>Skele: Decent HA>M-Boar: Decent HABasically he paid for previous Fire Starter crimes
>>59101562>Mold Breaker is fineno it isn't
>>59098284Are they the new version of Owlshitters trying to drag IncineGOD because it's a failure?
>>59098272none of these niggas will be used
>>59101931I love how you can tell exactly how much Game Freak respects a starter by how broken their Hidden ability is since it lines up perfectly, yet the pedophiles on this Vietnamese pig raping forum have the nerve to say all starter are shillmons. Why are pokefags so retarde
>>59101965People honestly thought Emboar was a shillmon before ZA came out, just because it was getting a Mega, it's nowhere near the shillness of Charizard, Cinderace, Incin or Blaziken and it's Mega's Ability is just another example of this
>>59101986none of these are shillmons
>>59101986Juest because a mon gets a Mega Evo doesn't make it a shillmon, when people start to realize this it'll cause less confusion, sometimes getting a Mega is just Game Freak throwing a mon a bone unless that Mega is busted beyond belief, even then it's a tossup if they consider it a shillmon
>>59101997Eh, you can argue Meganium since it was all over New Pokemon Snap
>>59101965Delphox got the worst of it since his Mega actually makes him WORSE
>>59101997They're not Charizard or even Blaziken tier, but the PLZA starters are getting a metric fuckton more shilling than the basically nothing PLAstarters got. >>59102003there different levels of shillmons, but nearly everything with a mega is more shilled tha anything without one>unless that Mega is busted beyond belief,like meganium's. It may not have been a shillmon before but it sure as hell is now
>>59102029>If something gets a good mega it's a shillmonNah. If you're the weakest starter for 25 years you absolutely deserve the good mega.
>>59101997Never said they were (they're not), but that picture still shows how much they give zero fucks about Emboar lol.
>>59102034funny thing Meganium was the strongest starter on release. being both good in the official meta and having a small niche in Smogon OU fan fic. Typhlosion was good in the official meta (likely better than meganium if this recent video discussing people who currenly play that meta is to be believed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfy3c7sXvw ) but struggled in fanfic due to stiff competition from Charizard. Feraligatr had no place anywhere Meganium and the other Johto starters fell off because because starters (unless they're inner circle shillmons like the KANTOOOO starters and Blaziken) get most of their shilling only when their region gets shilled and Johto was by far the least shilled region, whether its because game freak hates johto feel free to theorize This is also where the meme of Johto mons all being shit comes from, most were fine or at least proportional along with everything else, but Kantomons keep getting shilled and Hoenn mons kept getting megas leaving johto mons behind.
