>Camerupt, the ERUPTION Pokémon, learns Earth Power by Level Up>Typhlosion, the VOLCANO Pokémon, doesn't learn it at allIt's making me angry
>>59102084He sure camerupt in hat underage girl
>>59102084Made for raping children
>>59102084camerupt is a shillmon so its allowed to have coverage
Scorching sand is better tbqh
>>59102084Why is this thing built like a pillow case?
Realistically speaking do you honestly think giving both forms of Typhlosion earth power would put it at any rank higher than NU?
>>59102335That’s how many mustelids look when standing. However, there’s a chance Game freak was trying to make it flop. Cyndaquil wasn’t even supposed to be a starter, just a random (possibly) single stage normal type hedgehog. It was promoted to starter around the time Masuda took over and got rid of the temu fire pikachu that evolved into temu Arcanine. Game Freak being bitter could have been subtly trying to make it less cool. Of course that a just a theory, a whether or not the pillowcase thing is even a bad thing is highly subjective, but it makes a weird amount of sense considering they go out of they way to make most starters as cool as possible, especially the fire starters>>59102342It need a fuckton more than that, really something like a pivoting move would be more helpful. The best thing would be a a broke ability like the starters game freak cares about get but that would only happen if it gets a mega, which isn’t happening.
>>59102397I’m kind of disappointed it went from a hedgehog to a mustelid. Cyndaquil is a peak design.
>>59102084Meganium needed Earth Power far more
>>59102342Typhlosion H won 2 VGC tournaments lol
>>59102342Earth Power alone wouldn't make any pokemon that much more viable, but for god's sake give him some coverage. Typhlosion's level up learnset and TM pool is the most depressing collection of moves I've ever seen on a starter pokemon. Even in Hisui the only thing that changed is a new ghost type move. Sickening display.>>59102413They can share.
>>59102423He said NU, which is a smogon tier, he's not talking about VGC where any mon can randomly do well.
>>59102116>camerupt is a shillmon It is?
>>59103274It’s an important character’s ace and got a Mega, nothing compared to the top shillmons or even second string shillmons but a fuckton more then whatever the jellyfish their doing with base typhlosion
>>59102116bot reply
>>59102084He volcanoes into children
>>59103274No
>>59102342No, because Typhlosion's sole reason for existing is to put on Choice Scarf and spam Eruption until it dies, because its dogshit stat spread and monotyping don't permit any other strategy.Even ILCA recognized this when they gave Dawn one for her final rematch team (Turtwig variant) in BDSP.
>>59102084they hate typhlosion, they always did
>>59103536he just like me frfr
>>59103440you call that a bot replay but not this shit? >59102096>59102103>59103536>59104591
>>59104600Why would you think someone would need to automate horny jokes? People drop those with absolutely no issue all the time
>>59103336>everything is a shillmonShut the fuck up.
>>59103255Sounds like a smogon player issue
>>59104649I think you misunderstand: Anything can work in selective circumstances in either format, but it's much harder to make suboptimal strategies work in smogon singles. VGC is built on guesswork and luck.
>>59104691You're wrong. Smogon singles is more forgiving than VGC, that's why the meme of VGC mirror teams exist.
>>59102084Camerupt deserves it more. This is a camerupt thread now
>>59102084Typhlosion doesnt have anything to do with earth manipulation. Earth Power is for earth elementals, kaiju, and plants.
>>59104641No not everything, just things that get megas and diverse moves. As in camerupt. It’s just not blaziken teir
>>59104786>camerupt>diverse movesTyphlosionfags are insufferable
>>59104782Typhlosion is the VOLCANO POKÉMON.Giving him Earth Power is not even like giving him Earthquake. Earth Power is just a necessary reparation for decades of indifference followed by blacklisting.if anything, Typhlosion should have Rock Slide, Erupt and Earthquake, if we were to compensate him and his fans.Typhlosion is the one Pokémon that Gamefreak hates
>>59104786i think you just don't like camerupt. you can say "i don't like camerupt" instead of "camerupt is a shillmon"
>>59104793/vp/ is clearly not ready for the conversation that Typhlosion is / was done dirty, and has always been.
>>59104786It is pointless trying to argue with anti-Typhlosion shills. The only thing that makes them happy is seeing Typhlosion out of the dex, which they already got, with a ban on the Phlosion that should last at least ten years.If anything, Typhlosion showing up in competitive was his last Hail Mary, and a miracle that a FAN had to pull off.
>>59104782they gave a fish close combat, we can stop pretending movesets have to pretend to make sense>>59104794>Rock Slide, Erupt and Earthquake, ityphlosion has although and honestly even if it got earth power, pedo freak would just give Charizard Earth Power Deluxe. Reminder even Emboar isn't safe from getting fucked by game freak that was considered enough of a shillmon to get a fucking mega.
>>59104799You should ask for a refund from whoever is teaching your favela English.
>>59102084>Typhlosion, the sex offender icon Pokemon>its competitive purpose is breeding it for Burn Up Arcanine
>>59104830hahahahahahahahahaa
>>59104796i don't hate camerupt I hate Game Freak for being lazy epstienites. but it is a shilmon by virtue of getting a mega that is a fact. Shillmon doesn't mean "bad" it means "shilled". It is probably the least shilled mega and ironically probable deserves more shilling of the quality of its concept, but it is a shillmon. if i hated camerupt I would get a job at game freak, write disgusting rape stories about, and save them on the company hardrive so that pedophilic pokemon fans who hated camerupt have a weapon against it short versionCamerupt is fine, Game Freak is shit
>>59104818>they gave a fish close combatWhich makes sense. If you weren't sheltered as a child, you'd know how hyper aggressive and combative fish species can be, especially barracuda. Meanwhile Typhlosion has nothing to do with the earth, so there's no reason for it to get earth power.
>>59104883S Tier Shillmon:>Charizard>Lucario>Eevee and PikachuA Tier Shillmon:>Blaziken>Gardevoir>Frog>generally, anthropormorphized Pokémon which attracts disproportional attentionB Tier shillmon:>Meganium>Emboar>any Pokémon with a mega / terrastalize / gigantamaxAny shillmon is a Pokémon that gets attention from the official release disproportional to its appeal. Emboar was the least loved starter in Unova and XYZ, yet it is shoved down our throat for some reason.Meanwhile Typhlosion is the curious case of a very popular Pokémon that is attacked from all sides, both by design and incompetence.
>>59104896Meganium has nothing to do with earth, and gets Earth Power.But there are always different criteria when Typhlosion is being discussed,
>>59104794Volcano =/= earth. Moltres and Magmortar are also volcanic pokemon, but they don't get the move. Same with Entei, who is the living embodiment of volcanoes and magma.Earth Power is specifically for Pokémon directly aligned with earth and soil. Mineral based Pokemon get it, along with plants, some mud dwelling pokemon like frogs/pigs, and titanic kaiju said to have been involved with terraforming or creation. It's basically earthbending. Typhlosion fits with none of that.
>>59104918meganium fits the plant requirement that anon said, but the fact that Meganium didn't get it until it became a shillmon proves that moves have nothing to with the thematic relevance.
>>59104918Meganium is a plant you ding dong. Same reason why Sunflora and Shaymin get it, since flowers gain their energy from earth and soil. Typhlosion gets its attacking power from the friction of its fur, which has nothing to do with the earth.
>>59104922>headcanonPoliwag learns Earth Power leveling up. Typhlosion learning Earth Power by TM is nothing.
>>59102084Keep seething, Typedo.
>>59104918>>59104924>>59104926It already has earthquake. Who gives a shit about earth power?
>>59104933Nothing headcanon about it. "Volcano Pokemon" is weak evidence considering Entei, called "Volcano Pokemon" according to the dex, also doesn't learn it.There's no issue with Poliwhirl learning it either, since it's a mud-dwelling frog and learns other mud attacks to emphasize this.
>>59104924>>59104926>Poliwag learns Earth Power by levelingI don't care about some anon's headcanon. The only reason why Typhlosion can't learn Earth Power by TM is due to neglect, which is suspiciously everywhere when it comes to Typhlosion. People don't like talking about this, but it is pattern recognition at this point.
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>59104940Pokémon that can learn Earth Power:>Stantler>Ho-oh>Poliwag line>Garchomp>Dialga>Hydreigon line>Volcanion (a Volcano Pokémon, just like, guess what, Typhlosion and Camerupt)>Wyrdeer (Psychic)>Hydrapple>WiglettI can go on.
>>59104939if game freak spend less time raping girls and more time balancing the EV system so that mixed attackers without bloated BSTs could work, this thread wouldn't exist
>>59104949>being a Typedo is sufferingWhy do people even bother, it is clear that someone in Gamefreak has a huge hate boner for the Phlosion. Might as well sell him to Palworld. He'd be more appreciated there.It is humiliating at this point.
>>59104943You've conveniently ignored the other examples pointed out of similar mons that lack earth power, to inform your victim headcanon narrative. Not sure why you're hung up on Poliwag either? Croagunk also learns it, and the pigs (Grumpig/Oinkologne) too. Gamefreak clearly decided that the move fits swampy and muddy pokemon better than straightforward fire types, sees as the only fire types that actually get it are mineral based ones.
>>59104910uniroicanlly its because Game Freak is angry that masuda raplacd that shitty temu arcanine in the beta with Typhlosion. they've been bitter ever since >>59104962>sees as the only fire types that actually get it are mineral based ones.skeledirge and Volcanion break that rule once again, there is an argument about thematics but the fact they aren't eve constant with it and the fact that meganium only got the move afer it became a shillmon makes any arguement about thematics moot.
>>59104954>StantlerAnimal that wallows in mud>Ho-ohCreator deity>Poliwag lineMud dwelling animal>GarchompKaiju>DialgaCreator deity/kaiju>Hydreigon lineKaiju>Volcanion (a Volcano Pokémon, just like, guess what, Typhlosion and Camerupt)Creator deity (yes, it created South Kalos via terraforming according to the XY event, which also mentions it is worshipped there).>Wyrdeer (Psychic)See Stantler>HydrapplePlant>WiglettEel that lives in mudAgain, "volcano pokemon" is neither necessary nor sufficient grounds for the move. Camerupt is a ground type, and Volcanion terraformed Kalos, while Entei doesn't learn it at all.
>>59104987>Skeledirge>VolcanionNeither break the rule. The former is inspired by Mexican clay skulls, and we know Gamefreak is autistic about clay to the point that they framed a runestone as clay to justify not giving Runerigus the typing of Rock/Ghost. The latter is a weird steampunk machine that is stated to have created the cut content part of Kalos via terraforming.
>>59104991Skeledirge, a literal ghost baba yaga pokémon, learns it.There is no excuse besides the usual typhlosion derangement syndrome from Gamefreak.But sure, call it victim mentality. You people love when we get screwed over
>>59105008one could just as easily say typhlosion is a badger a animal that digs, so it should and other animals based on burrowers should get Earth Power, thing is its not even like typhlosion is the only pokemon with limited coverage, or that earth power would fix anything at this point, or that their are't other moves that would make more sense, or even that its the only pokemon that "should" get more moves, or even that its the only starter that's struggling, but when there's a consistent pattern of shillmons getting everything and others pokemon being set up to fail, trying to apply sense or good faith to anything game freak does is a fool's erand. Half this thread is falsefalggers, half retards taking the bait, half trolls, and half people actually trying to make a real argument. For halves because game freak is as bad at math as they are everything elseshit, half the comments in this stupid thread are npcs dragging out a dead meme that only exists because game freak ignored thematic relevance and usedTyphlosion for a fic that would have fit Ninetales, but Ninetales is too "important" to be associated with "that" sort of thing.
not enough camerupts here
>>59104922>>59104926>>59104940>>59104991>>59105008>Meganium can learn Earth Power because (arbitrary bullshit)>Stantler can learn Earth Power because (arbitrary bullshit)>Poliwag can learn Earth Power because(arbitrary bullshit)>The fucking circus crocodile can learn Earth Power because (arbitrary bullshit)>Typhlosion shouldn't learn Earth Power, it'd just be arbitrary bullshit that makes no senseQuit pissing me off, Anon. There's NO FUCKING REASON why Typhlosion's movepool is so shit, especially when Gamefreak can and HAS given old pokemon the makeovers they've been begging for years now. Feraligatr got nearly everything it ever wanted since birth, and although its a limited gimmick Meganium got a busted Mega with a busted ability. The most "love" Typhlosion got was a regional evolution with a ghost typing and a slightly weaker Hex with a burn chance as a signature move, and got told to fuck off after that.
>>59105183>Feraligatr got nearly everything it ever wanted since birthYeah and it’s still shit. Typhlosion still does better than it in Gamefreak’s pet meta.
i think the johto starters SUCKS
>>59105183>There's NO FUCKING REASON why Typhlosion's movepool is so shitWe all know the reason, anon.Gamefreak despises Typhlosion, simple as. And fans gaslight anyone who takes the side of Typhlosion, claiming they must be crazy or are running on some form of victim mentality. Yes, it is victim mentality because Typhlosion is a fucking victim. They already cut Typhlosion off most games they release, they had Typhlosion be part of creepy fanfiction where he drugs, rapes, gaslights, grooms a girl, then tries to kill her father before getting shot. And her babies become Cyndaquils, forever associating Typhlosions with rape.Some anon posted a very innocent thread with a very innocent question that would, in a fair planet, be unecessary, because Typhlosion should have Earth Power. Also, all that Typhlosion got from that regional form was the brand of being a pedophile, banishing it for games for 10+ years.Giving Stantler Earth Power instead of Typhlosion is just a big 'Fuck you' to whoever keeps supporting the badger after all these years. No Pokémon is hated like this.
how'd i fuck up formatting twice in a row>>59105195And Typhlosion is fucking nothing without Specs Eruption, If there's anything that can interrupt the sun, or hit Typhlosion first, or takes away its item, its fucked. Feraligatr's biggest sin is that its slow in an environment where similarly built pokemon are faster. We'll see how much of a difference Dragonize makes in time, but Typhlosion is relying on one trick and only recently has Fake Out stopped fucking it over.
>>59105193>it's arbitrary bullshit because I don't like that Gamefreak actually established consistency instead of pandering to my favorite Entitlement and Typedofags. Name a more iconic duo.
>>59105091>one could just as easily say typhlosion is a badger a animal that digsDigging isn't particularly sufficient for it, no. Vikavolt, Furret, and Pinsir dig, but they also don't get the move. Earth Power is a special ground attack, and looking at its distribution Gamefreak clearly sees it as being given to "swampy" or marshland dwelling animals when it isn't on some earth elemental. So no, one couldn't just as 'easily' say what you are proposing.
>>59105260>pedo freak >consistencyShut up, shill. The only thing those pedos are consistent about is sending shekels to izzrayell to fund bombs to blow up kids then sending the rest to game freak to be raped
>>59105260because clay skull mumbo jumbo oh-so clearly justifies Earth Power when volcanoes make clay. When volcanoes are responsible for forming new earth compounds and minerals through heat and pressure. You dishonest sack of shit.
>>59105267Diggers using earth powers is more logical than writing rape fics, but the secondaries on this board had no problem with the latter
>>59105260Remember when Typedo fags raided /vp/ for two weeks straight after they had a meltdown when Mega Meganium leaked, and they realized they weren't even making it to the Pokedex?
>>59105242I don’t think Feraligatr is going to be good unless other megas are restricted. Typhlosion being good a few times is better than being good no times (so far at least).
bump for justice
>>59102084Typhlosion is based on an inactive volcano
>>59105936>clearly erupting in the picture >inactive
Typlosion had it's chance with a Hsuian form to be a Fire/Ground type (it's a BADGER) but Gamefreak made it Fire/Ghost instead so sucks to be a Typedo I guess.
>>59104778based camerupt chad
>>59105948>He thinks a little bit of fire is an "eruption"Why are Johtofags this retarded?
>>59105200Chat is this real??
Is Typhlosion even able to win a 1v1 against Camerupt?
>>59106182It varies. Typhlosion is faster and can two hit camerupt. Defensive camerupt typically can’t hit hard enough to OHKO typhlosion before the getting KO’d itself but offensive camerupt can. Funny enough under sun. Typhlosion can OHKO camerupt with Eruption, so much for this anon’s “little fire” comment >>59105970>>59106141She’s a faggot but it’s at least partly true
>>59106182No>>59106233What kind of calcs are you making? Camerupt wins with no item even against Typlosion running Choice Specs and Scorching Sands
>>59106696>it's not even mega evolved and still wonKek
>>59102116>ground type getting a ground type move is coverageare you retarded
>>59106696Modest typh does
>>59102116Lol no its not
>>59106935This post explains it >>59104910
>>59106696Thighplosionbois did we really lose to a retarded camel??? How do we respond to this....?
>>59106736>>59106956I forgot to give Camerupt Solid Rock, so it's even worse.
>>59102084> It's making me angryThat’s what happens when you keep buying it anyways. Cameruptfans have standards so Game freak knows they have to give them high quality content. They know Typhlosionfans are cucks who will swallow whatever rancid jizz gets forced into their mouths and ask for more, so they don’t get good moves. Maybe of typhlosion fans weren’t dumb enough to stay with a company that gives them nothing -strike that- actively spits in their face, typhlosiom would have more than one move to rub together.
>>59107204>camerupt fansThose don't even exist.Typhlosion got over with the fans organically. We never needed a pity mega.
>>59107582>starter pokemon got fans organicallyi'll take my mega and not delude myself
He should get Thunderbolt by TM or Move Tutor too, toss in Grass Knot as well
>>59107716It is funny how the entire Camerupt fanbase is in this thread, totalling exactly one (1) person.I swear, I even forgot Camerupt was a Pokémon, I confuse it a lot with Magcargo.
