>Be a Fire Starter in a Legends game>Get shafted in abilities What did they mean by this
>>59103650>be a legends starter>be a complete shitmon with no use outside of fanfic metamany such case
Mold Breaker is great in a Tera Meta and Dragonize is... alright, aside from Giga Impact & Thrash, the latter of which is already a Normal-type variant of Outrage, what is Mega Feraligatr even running to benefit off its ability?
>>59103650frisk is generally good and would be amazing if open teamsheets weren't a thing
>>59103650>Be a PLAss starter>FlopWhat did they mean by this
>>59103679>f-frisk is totally a good ability goys>m-mold breaker is totally a good ability goysfirebirds copping will never not be funny
>>59103664Mega Meganium and Feraligatr will have use in VGC.Meganium ignore primal weathers and can counter multiple restricteds.Feraligatr is the second physical Dragon type with high BP Dragon moves that isn’t Outrage. The other one being Baxcalibur which has a worse typing.
>>59103650>Be a Fire Starter in a Legends game>Get a fanbase composed entirely of pedo and predatorsWhat did they mean by this
>>59103680could be worse
>>59103676Just Facade, Body Slam, or Double-Edge. It’s honestly underwhelming.
>>59103714>maybe it will be useful in 2 years when restricteds are legal!Meganiumfags already coping
>>59103817>”THIS IS COMPLETELY USELESS!!”>Well actually it has a use>”OK FINE BUT IT WON’T BE USEFUL TILL THEN AND I CAN’T COMPHREHEND HOW TO USE A POKEMON THAT IGNORES WEATHER AT ALL”ok
>>59103805Yeah, having 4 time the moveset that the average physical dragon has sure is underwhelming lmao
>>59103838Not being able to use loaded dice Scale Shot kinda sucks.
>>59103847>wanting your bulky mon to lose defenceJust use dragon type body slam and paralyse you retard
>>59103774Jesus christ lmao
>>59103864dumb reason to waste a mega slot desu
>>59103774>>59103869so this is the power of emboar huh
>>59103774Jesus Christ the ZA starters was a fucking mistake
>>59103875skibigatr was also poorly received by just about everyone
>>59103872>no argumentI accept your concession embort
>>59103895the argument was that the opportunity cost is too high to waste on megagatr. stop being a retard, unless they give it some more moves it’s tough to justify using it
>>59103805Feralgatr also gets Slash. After a Dragon Cheer, it’s a guaranteed crit so it can bypass stat drops and screens.
>>59103929stop noticing things, you make my pig look worse every time
>>59103650game freak straight up hate embrosuch a shame
>>59103929it’s SOMETHING I guess
>>59103650What even is the group theme of the ZA trio?
>>59103774>Decidueye is more popular than mega meganium Grim
>>59103742Because of game freak’s hate of masuda. Typhlosion replaced the Arcanine ripoff when Masuda took over Gen 2 and Emboar is from Masuda’s Magnum Opus
>>59103774>Typhlosion with the pedo lore penalty is more popular than mega emboar Grim
>>59104201Samurott mogs
What will the next legends trio be to make up for the ZA flops?
>>59103650the only good designs are the Unova ones
>>59104436>implying legends trio aren’t made to flop by design your next legends game will have rillaboom, skeledridge and quackaval getting regionally replaced and you will like it.
>>59104506obvious not all considering ZA promoted meganium to a shillmon
>h-typhlosion, mega gatr and megameganium are all vgc relevant >the two unova shitmons and failed the comedic relief owl are dogshit outside of the fanfic metaYou love to see it
>>59104521It is?
>>59103676100% crit slashDouble edgeGiga impactBody slamThrashAre all better than the dragon type variants, including dragon rush. They all do more damage than every single one of his SE coverage options except water attacks and EQ depending on normal move chosen you guys are just too retarded to do basic math, he has every relevant normal type move to make use of this and you go>what is Mega Feraligatr even running to benefit off its ability?I cannot even imagine making a more retarded comment than this. Do you think mega mence is shit? Because it sounds like you do. Okay well this is a dragon type mega mence that does more damage because of a higher attack stat
They get what they fucking deserve.Fire starters always get the most preferential treatment because they're the most popular among the normalfags.Their alt forms being garbage is justice.
>>59103676>and Dragonize is... alright, aside from Giga Impact & Thrash, the latter of which is already a Normal-type variant of Outrage And does more damage than the variant thanks to dragonize while the former is the most powerful physical normal move at an astronomical 150 bp while also being backed by a 20% boost. I mean it doesn’t even end here when you consider the other normal attacks he gets this is basically a sidegrade when considering base gatrs coverage and it hits much harder neutrally while being more bulky. It has its weakness in fairy but its way more meta viable than base gatr. Where do people get off having such baseless and stupid takes?
>>59104531>>59104521Its not.>Not in the anime>Barely promoted>Only thing it did in the trailers was job to mons like Aurorus and GolisopodDon't forget meganium will be useless again in gen 10.
>>59104564>CHARIZARD, Blaziken, and Cinderace being shoved in our faces means all fire starters should suffer despite Emboar getting fuck all and Game Game Freak hating Typhlosion for longer than you've been alive literally leftoid cunt logic, kill yourself.
>>59104586it's only existed for like a month, give it time
>>59104523>mega gatr and megameganium are all vgc relevantThe meta hasn’t even started yet bro
>>59104612mega meganium has 143 Spattack spammable Solar Beam, 150 BP Fire coverage, Earth Power, 75% healing, and can be used on rain teams while keeping all of that. Its a forgone conclusion that that thing will be a top mega unless we want to pretend anyone ever uses poison for offense. Mega feraligatr is less likely to be vgc relevant but it has a dragon version of th ability that made Salamence so busted (though salamence has many other things that make it good).
>>59103650Firebros we got too cocky quick release Mega CharizardZ
>>59103650You are literally not allowed to outclass Charizard
>>59104637Toiletgatr is outclassed by Gyarados
>>59104637Mega Feraligatr is a rare physical Dragon type that actually wants to be physical. Most Dragons opt to use Draco Meteor as their Dragon STAB of choice since it still hits hard, it doesn’t drop their main offensive stat, technically intimidateproof, and because Outrage sucks in doubles.Mega Feraligatr solves that issue of Outrage sucking by turning Double-Edge and Facade into Dragon moves. It can also somewhat bypass Intimidate with Slash + Dragon Cheer.It should also be noted that Mega Feraligatr will be competing with Mega Bax who may be getting Sharpness.
>>59104637mega gate doesn't even compare to mence at alltoo slowno intimidate pre-megano stab spread moveno tailwind
>>59104637Meganium getting the sunboost is a theory at best since thats calculated on hit. Weather ball is also a theory as we dont know what happens to weather ball when its under rain.>>59104831Mega gatr is a water/dragon which is one of the best defensive typings in the game.
>>59104024>Grass = Pretty damsel>Fire = Brave warrior>Water = Ferocious dragon
>>59104950>Ferociouslol
>>59103650Unrelated, but it's interesting that the color red is what ties all 6 of these designs together
>>59104913lack of weaknesses doesn't make a type good defensively, resists do, and water dragon doesn't actually have many resists as a lot of them are canceled out by the other type's weaknesses.mega gatr is a water that doesn't resist ice and a dragon that doesn't resist electric or grass, and these are non-trivial things that add extra constraints to teambuilding.
>>59104950>pretty lol
>>59105409thisremember, gamefreak hates feraligatr which is why they turned it into a toilet version of its baby form. if they gave a shit about it, then it would’ve had a useful stat distribution and bigger movepool
>>59104034I dont like regular decidueye but the hisuian variant is such a massive glow up it deserves it tbhqh
>>59104034Rowlet is so popular that it props up Decidueye as well. Empoleon gets this treatment too with Piplup.
>>59104950They all should be fat in this picture like the mons
>>59106102Pretty sure Decidueye is a popular standalone mon and gap between his popularity compared to Pip and Empo is drastically smaller. last big poll in 2020 on the Alola section, Deci was right next to Rowlet. There was a bigger vote gap between rowlet and the winner Mimikyu even. But Piplup and Empoleon weren’t even close, Piplup mogged
>>59106254That poll is sketchy, you were able to game it pretty easily. I’d take it with a grain of salt.
>>59106264Being able to game it shouldn’t matter much. Pokémon that are already liked are the ones most likely to have people try and “cheat”. It would just exaggerate already existing differences in popularity
>>59106272>Pokémon that are already liked are the ones most likely to have people try and “cheat”There was literally a single Japanese youtuber who boosted Dedenne massively
>>59103650I'm still so fucking pissed that H Decidueye doesn't work. He turned a bottom-five starter into a top-five and he has so many tools to work with but his stats are just such fucking dogshit...
>>59103875What, did you expect a lunchlady in a muumuu would be the rage?
Why did they give us 3 fat starters in ZA?
>>59107415Because people got tired of the skinny ones.
>>59106660Yeah, so that just demonstrates that poll is unreliable. You can’t provide a faulty methodology and expect people to accept it.
