Topsy-Turvy Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>59091682Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMARotation:March 26th for online and April 10th for physical.https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2026-pokemon-tcg-standard-format-rotation-announcement
First for Maractus a cute!
How do I acquire the cards in the easiest manner for this cheap Team Rockets Honchcrow deck?
>>59117106Paypig some codes from a 3rd party site, pull a shitload, get dupes, and farm currency so then you can just get whatever card you want.It's what I do when I come back to this game, it's like 40 bucks for a fuckton of codes.
If there's one advantage regarding packs instantly being sold out everywhere because of everyone ripping them all apart in search of mega super secret rares, it's that everything else from each set becomes waste product and by comparison and is incredibly cheap to buy
>>59117350Can confirm. I have 2 ETBs full of waste product for Chaos Rising.
>>59117408*Perfect Order. I am retarded.
Lucaribros, what happened?
>>59117533Gets fucked by le olives.
>>59117533japanese pokemon league is best of one so actual winners in championships are completely random
>>59117554Can't imagine the rage I'd feel if I prized all my important cards in my one and only game
>>59117564I've never even played Pokemon in a BO3 format before.
>>59117564yeah it's why no one takes the region seriouslythe entire reason bo3 is the universal standard for TCGs is to mean you don't lose in the grand finals due to freak occurences like all of your alakazam being prized
>>59117533I guess with everyone was playing quad lillie's clefairy mega lucario got swept
>>59117564>>59117581Zamn, it's almost as if prizes are a bad mechanic
>>59117619the game has only been out for 29 years i'm sure they'll think of some workaround eventuallypocket of all things instantly came up with the most obvious and easy solution but apparently it's too hard to actually ape that system and then errata the whole 4 cards that anyone actually plays that interact with prize cards directly
Bolt without Sada is just sad.I saw a guy trying to use trumpet to charge Meowth and Kangaskhan, but those are a weak 2 prizer and a 3 prizer, Kangaskhan doesn't give as many cards as Sada and Trumpet won't charge the Bolt so it has to be charged with Crispy.Something like Ultraball, Meowth, Crispy and Trumpet to attack in turn 1, very sad.It doesn't help that Clefairies are common now because of Pult decks being like weeds.
>>59117640Embrace Bolt-Bolt.
Serperior deck looks fun in concept, but it's so bricky.
mega skarmory ex is a pretty good cardyou put it onto the bench when your opponent has 3 prizes left and you instantly throw the gamehope more people do that
>>59117728I'm trying to make something with itMy first idea is lead with arboliva, spread damage, and then let it get killedThen Rosa to boost your army of snakes I've never been able to use Rosa; arboliva just kinda kills everything if you get it going turn 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WtoDbx0D3QI just can't believe olives are meta.
>>59117793I'm an Arboliever
>all the youtubers pronounce is "Arbo-leeva"Wouldn't it be "Arb-olive-uh" because it's an olive tree? Arbor + olive
>>59117895Oliva (oh-LEE-vuh) from the spanish word... oliva.
>>59117895Also "Arbol" from the Spanish word for tree. The Pokemon's name is literally "Olive Tree" but in Spanish.
>>59117954>>59117961Sorry, I'm not a subeater. I didn't know.
How can I get started and learn how to build an actually decent Standard deck on my own? I want to play at my local card shop. I don't just want to mindlessly copy others and buy a deck online but work with what I have and find in packs. Also I like normal type can I do anything decent with that? Can I do a no evolution deck. I've played a little but never built my own deck from scratch with a preconceived theme.
>>59117981>How can I get started and learn how to build an actually decent Standard deck on my own?You don't. Look up guides and tournament results.>I don't just want to mindlessly copy others and buy a deck online but work with what I have and find in packs.You won't get anywhere doing that and will likely lose every match you play. Use what works because it's been proven to work.>Also I like normal type can I do anything decent with that?One of the best decks in the format is Fighting type. You won't have a good time.
>1st seed undefeated>dropsfucking BR i was rooting for you
>>59117073She is!
>>59117981You can do whatever you want. I have a friend who comes to locals every week and loses every game he plays by doing many of the things you've mentioned. He seems to be happy enough just looking at the cards.
>>59117793I was telling y'all for weeks
I think my opponent is very confused.
>>59117408Sex
>>59117619BO3 (or even Swiss) is standard even in games without prizes or even without shields because there's just inherent randomness to any TCG that you want to mitigate with a larger sample size if you want to measure skill more effectively. Pokémon is actually a surprisingly consistent game despite everything, but it really shouldn't be BO1.
This new big basic slop deck is so fucking cringe.
>new
>slop deckI hate Azul.
Business idea: Stephen's Metagross and Alakazam
Sloppy toppy deck
>>59118382Sorry buddy, Gardy rotated out
>>59118472Thank god, fuck her.
I had this Cinderace ex deck that I really enjoyed playing, it was a rogue deck, but it was fun, it was my rogue deck. Anyways rotation has impacted the deck, and I am not sure if it is worth it to rebuild. My fear is that without Arven I can't tutor for Rare Candy as easily, so I am worried it won't be strong enough.Do you guys think I should rebuild my Cinderace ex deck post-rotation, or should I let the meme be a dream?
>>59118653I mean you can try.There's a bunch of people running 3 stage mon decks, it's not like they are obsolete.
Professor I know got an email from TPCi, tl;dr>Booster boxes will no longer be a thing due to non retailers buying too many and withholding packs from customers>Sets will release in Booster Bundles starting after Chaos Rising>Next set is called Flare Odyssey (Mega Heatran?)
>>59118715What the hell is the difference between a booster box and bundle? Pack slop aside, I do hope the Mega Heatran is playable if this isn't just larp, I love its design.
>>59118653You have to run either Meowth + Petrel or the Tera Slop engine.
Mega Cleafable is the new Gholdengo
>>59118715my dad works for the pokemon company and he's says you're full of it
>>59118721Theoretically, boxes have a set 'hit rate' within its distribution (for example, every 2 boxes one SR).Bubdles have nothing like that and are completely random on top of being much cheaper, so less valuable for secondary market/scalpers.Kinda like the new issue with OP TCG which has one "big hit" per box but the small tins with few boosters are completely random.
>>59118715ebin april fools day clown
>play alakazam>opponent pulls out the rocket stadium>realize my entire deck is bricked until I pull a stadium of my ownJesus, that was painful. That was the reason they won.
>>59119130Honestly I don't really give a shit about the collector aspect but if it makes all the annoying people that grade and try to build investment porfolios of pokemon cards go away I'll gladly pay triple for singles.
>>59119225Bro you're already doing that with these scalper faggots. It just filters the hoarders from the people willing to gamble on the packs for resell.I wish western pokemon wasn't such a dogshit shitshow of gambling and just went the JP route of smaller sets everywhere, where cards are way more common.This whole model is biting them in the ass because they drag their feet in production. I can't even play the fucking game IRL because I don't want to drop a stupid amount of money just for singles. TCGL is unironically my cope because I'm too broke to afford to play this shit TCG IRL now a days.
>>59119225I think prices might change for the stuff people collect, but if you want the basic versions of the cards it might not change much.
>>59119289>I can't even play the fucking game IRL because I don't want to drop a stupid amount of money just for singles.the fuck are you talking about? you can build the best deck in the game from scratch for $50 and it's only that much because of the Unfair Stamp. You can probably find half the cards in the list in the bulk box at your locals.
>>59119369Yeah, I want nice singles.I could go pure poverty, but it's depressing. I'm a fucking boomer and enjoyed when alt arts would go for like 3-4 dollars tops instead 10+ per.Shits stupidly expensive - and I'm not like talking about full art trainers and like staples like that. Just simple alt art of basic pokemon cards are going for stupid amounts.Anything that's not the dirt common rarity is going for like either 10+ or close to it.I need some kind of soul in my deck. Including when it comes to my trump/main star pokemon.
>>59119432>"I can't play the game if I can't be a blinged out rarity whore. Oh, woe is me. Whatever shall I do?"
Play Starmie
>>59117408Cute
>>59119572everyone on ladder is using shaymin
>>59119666Starmie fad needs to die so I can be unhindered playing Olives
>>59118614
Are these bots or just really stupid people?
>>59119807You won't believe how many people cannot read the cards for some reason.
Azul: "This deck <Arboliva> feels awful"Me: This deck feels amazing.
Easiest Master grind I've done so far. Basically uncontested.
>>59120149What do you do about Crustle?
>>59120292I press the surrender button and call the player a faggot.
>>59120309
Team rocket murkrow's torment attack is so good now that people can't arven for air balloon anymore
>>59120292Dolliv and win every 50/50.
>>59120292On one hand I like it when they make random shitmon actually useful and viable, on the other hand Crustle is a nigger
>>59120149No Meganium?
>>59119521It's called soul.Same reason you play with full art lands in MTG. Why would you not play with beautiful and appealing card art?For example, this? Dog shit, awful aesetic, awful art, it looks so god damn bad. It's a genuine eyesore. The fact this card is valued at 240 and was almost 500 a month ago? Fucking insult. These and ghost rares in YGO are a genuine insult to card art and the fact anyone values this slop because they are rare is a joke.To be frank, I'm of the mindset that good art should be more common and not a rarity based thing. It's all FOMO shit to get you to gamble more on bullshit because the western design of the TCG is dogshit compared to the Japanese versions. 50 USD for a booster box (MSRP) with at least one SR and several ARs and the pool of cards are less bloated so you have better chances of getting shit you want/need instead of irrelevant slop.I just believe we deserve better and scalpers are genuinely holding us back along with the international pokemon company's insatiable greed to turn the TCG into lowkey gambling and manufactured scarcity for no reason. Along with withholding specific cards for no reason. I'll never forgive them for withholding the hex maniac full art until 3 weeks before she rotated out, and threw her into a guaranteed Shaymin EX box which was also rotating out with it so the box was fucking worthless.I love the game, but holy fuck do I loathe the methods and systems in place that systemically fuck us for no justification but money.
>>59120677Meganium is bloat. If you get to the point where you need the Meganium that means you're already screwed.
>>59119968Why does anyone watch him? He's a fuckboy dudebro who shits on everything just to get a reaction out of people. The XQC of Pokemon.
>>59120682Budew? And yeah what would counter Crustle or how would you tech against it?In locals
>>59120699Budew is also (kinda) pointless. I don't get all of these players who demand so many options that they kill consistency. You go first. Preference is to start Pon. You don't do anything turn 1, Turn 2, you hope you have full combo (which is very likely), you retreat pon, put olives out, tree, evolve, either stretcher the energy or you have one. You can now rape your oponent with olives.The strategy is brain dead. Either you have it or you don't. The only bad matchups I've seen are big basics which is probably why people tech the meganium / budew so you can just slow roll a Pon.I'm a retarded schizo, so I play simplified decks.
>>59120679>It's called soul.It's called you being a bougie, pretentious fuck who can't play a game because your cardboard isn't shiny enough. If you actually gave a shit, you'd get cards to play irl and just play. But you'd rather do nothing and blame muh scalpers for ruining your experience instead. The text on the cards is all that matters, you don't need to oooh and aaah every time you draw lmao. I hope Live gives you all the soul you need.
>>59120699I mean with arboliva you can just bench snipe all day.
>>59120679>I loathe the methods and systems in place that systemically fuck us for no justification but money.calm down rorschach
>>59120738>J-Just pay the reseller scalpers who ruined the entire TCG economy already!!>If you really cared you would just do it and only play with their discarded trash that they deemed worthless because of a rarity marking!>Just play with visually noisy and ugly cards already!!>You aren't entitled to the nice art cards anymore unless you pay hundreads! Just deal with it!What a shit ultimatum man. Be soulless and have less fun, because of someone elses actions who don't even play these games fucking with the economy of the cards and STILL give them money on top of that because they bought out most of the stock and control it anyways!
>>59120749Crustle plays a 4-4 Crustle line and no other Pokemon. The counter to Crustle as olives is to do exactly what I said here >>59120721 (me) unless for some reason the Crustle player got the perfect counter hand and you didn't mulligan 100 from the Crustle player being an actual schizo and only playing 4 Pokemon.
>>59120857I love being a victim. I love everything being someone else's fault. I love it when they do it to me. I have no power. I can't do anything. I love it. I love when I have to do without. I love when I can wring my hands over how bad I have it. There are no options. There is no hope. I love suffering.
>>59120984But everything you said, doesn't stop a Crustle and if that's true and EX counter decks have become that schizo that they just run 4 pokemon - you can't touch the Crustle.Arboliva's [G] attack is damage, and not counters so it doesn't bypass the ability. What am I not understanding? How do you beat that?
>>59121047You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1. Arboliva Turn 2. 1 dwebble dead and another at 30. If they don't have a Crustle they lose.
>>59121059>You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1Are you stupid?
>>59121059>You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1if you go first you give your crustle opponent the chance to attack with dwebble which then turns into a crustle with a single crispin or energy attachment
>>59121059Okay but, they can because of dewbble's attack that he can pull off turn 2.So you're praying his turn 2, he doesn't get an energy or a poffin or you're conceding.Your only strat/option is to go turn 2 for that to work. And you're still praying he doesn't pull a poffin or search to get 3 dwebbles on the board which at that point is GG.
>>59121042Not going to lie, you just sound like a scalper whose trying to damage control at this point that they didn't rape the entire economy of a children's card game because of a boxer who overpaid for a shadowless charizard.My complaints are valid. I'm not a victim, I'm living in a dogshit no longer functioning system, remember, and desire for the old system that worked that wasn't cucked by losers.This is the equivalent of telling someone to eat bugs and they should like it.I'm not an asshole for having not dogshit expectations of a better time and not wanting to look at shitty visually noisy cards. Terra pokemon among a few other cards were the worst designed things in this TCG in a very long while.
>>59121074>>59121068>>59121066https://hownew.ru
>Still 3+ months before any meta change to counter dragapult>IF the next set even has a counter or meta changer
>>59121162Olives play well against Pult.
>>59121088Have fun with your jpgs on Live, I guess. The cards are extra glittery there.
>>59121173Still gets smacked with ghosts and it'll be even worse with red card soon enough. If dragapults strong now it's getting stronger then..
>>59121234Doom and gloom some more.
>>59121771It's so fucking annoying now you just spam random useless cards with no fucking context. Please fucking kill yourself
>>59117533People were hyping it because it does fairly well into dragapult but it honestly gets raped by unfair stamp, lily's clefairy, and arboliva.
wait, are olives actually a good deck and not a meme deck?
how do we feel about mega zygarde
>>59122052Hard countered by olives.
>>59122052Bad
>>59122052I saw an autistic child playing it at a LGS today, so it's stupid.Also anything based on coin flips is fun gimmick, but stupid if you're trying to be competitive.
>>59122041It's the 4th most used deck after rotation. Take that information as you want.
>>59122052I like the first and tool attacks. The 2nd attack is very weak for something that looks cool in the video games. I wish they did something else with it
>>59122052MemeEven if the 2nd attack didn't have a coinflip I don't think it would be good
>>59121042Oh hey, as a follow up, I actually went to 4 of my LGS stores.I could not find a single dudunsparse, hilda, or dawn. And all of them had the same story of most people now just throw away their bulk instead of giving it back to stores because all they give a shit about are the money cards.So I'm justified in hatred, cause as expected I have to go to fucking online stores to get common ass staples because scalpers are hoarding the boxes and the ones that are opened, neanderthals are throwing away the bulk because they are only assed with cards that have value to resell.Wasteful motherfuckers the lot of them, it was never this difficult getting basic trainers that everyone uses. It's a fucking wasteland.
>>59122163Where can I see post-rotation decks?
>>59122309Did you ask anyone? Nobody brings bulk to locals - you're supposed to buy it off of tcgplayer or ask if anyone has it. I will go to card shows to buy bulk and shit like Hyper Rare energies and if I can't find it there I buy it from tcgplayer. The most I'll trade for at locals is IRs/SIRs because that's the only stuff people binder.
>>59122314Only one of 4 were hosting a league night tonight. And for some reason they started at 1pm on a fucking wednesday.Because of that most of them were literal children on the spectrum and like two adult either NEETs or college students. But they were the ones who give off that weird vibe that they are super catty and clique-y so I didn't engage.> Nobody brings bulk to localsThat's fucked up because I used to all the time for this exact reason. I remember helping new players sift through bulk and picking out staples that they would need to get started and they were always plentiful.I know no players are going to have bulk on them, and I'm trying to run Alakazam. So a majority of my deck list is just bulk fodder. Took me like 3 hours but I found like 60% of it. There's nothing to find in binders for me either. I didn't want to wait a week for this bulk desu.
>>59122358I don't know who in their right mind does locals on a Wednesday. Our two local Play Stores do it on Friday nights and Saturday. My philosophy on bulk is I will bring it in on request, I am not lugging a dozen ETBs worth of cards to locals every week, but I will bring cards on request (we have a Discord for this). My regular carry to locals is 4 decks, two playmats, and my damage counters tin which is pretty on par with what everyone else I know is running.><NEETs at locals>My locals is predominately 18-34 year olds, I'm the oldest at 36. We have one person underaged and he's 17. We also have 2-3 biological women that come in (our professor is a women) so we're probably not the standard. As far as I can tell nobody is unemployed and most have college educations.
>>59122309I'm so sorry that this is happening to you and that you've been thinking about it all day.
>>59122312Pokecabook or look for city leagues at tcg limitless.https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/jp
>>59122371MTG dominates around here.I don't know if it's because Hasbro is(was) headquartered in Rhode Island or what. But fridays are FNM all day. Saturdays most people do YGO as a cope for them. Which means sundays for pokemon which are challenging, so pokemon gets mostly relegated to weekdays around here.Wednesday isn't crazy - just hosting it at 1pm is crazy IMO.And yeah most of the locals I've been to are normal. Just this store, it's new and I kinda realize the store name now isn't nonsense, it's political, and after looking at reviews. They brand themselves as a safe space LGS. So it makes sense why I saw the players I did. I might go to one of the other places and see if I can beg maybe.Right now my battle is fighting TCG player and finding sellers who won't charge me 20 dollars on mailing 10 cent cards.>>59122397I haven't been just the past few hours where I've been trying to build deck for this weekend.
I must be the luckiest motherfucker in this thread. I can go to a different pokemon league each day during the weekend (sometimes multiple times a day on different stores) and they all are like 20 mins from me.
>>59122163Do japs just hate zoroark or something? No way is worse than most of those, it's got a good pult match up. Why the fuck is mewtwo still around too
>>59122435I'm in Massachusetts and it's literally just Commander.
>>59122467Really? One of the places I went to tonight was doing Pauper.I know commander was rising up in popularity, but I figured standard was still king. But... now that you mention it. FNM might not be standard anymore, they might just do another format now because standard became "BUY PAYPIGS BUY BUY BUY HERE'S THE NEW SET BUY IT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LIMITED RUN SO DON'T LET FOMO FUCK YOU!!" every 3 weeks. I know players were bitching about fatigue that they couldn't keep up/keep buying shit.Kinda depressing. I was never a fan of commander myself.
>>59122485I was at Pax East last weekend and the only TCGs anyone was palying outside of a dedicated event was Magic. I know my locals only does Commander, but I think they were just playing Standard. I don't know because I don't play that soulless game.
>>59122301Without coin clips the second attack would be borderline game breaking
>>59122461Zoroark is just a very awkward deck to play post rotation, that's just how it is. Without Arven you struggle looking for tools so your damage is subpar and juggling zoroarks around is not easy. Also Nest Ball let's you get either pecharunt or one of the dragons which is a huge deal, pokepad is just only good for darmanitan. Iono powerplays are also gone.
>>59122746Outside a tech in lucario I don't see it being played in the current meta at least as it's own deck>5 energy needs 3 acceleration types + over 2 turns>Shaymin exists>Teras exist (why do they even have that)
>>59122052What were they thinking
>>59122776Like... none of this is really true actually?
>>59122776... what tools in zoroark? You hit 240 with zekrom or vs dragapult reshiram ohko them if they hit into you. You can force that with psyduck
>>59122954Zekrom+mochi+blackbelt hits for 330. It is probably less relevant without counter catcher in the format.
>>59122954Mochi and balloon retard, how else will you get around the zekrom cooldown without fucking your attached mana, retard? >inb4 pecharunt Harder to look for it without nest and also a liability against pult.
If only there was a stadium that gave free retreat to N's pokemon then you could pecharunt switch back in..
>Relying on stadiumsAs I said, awkward.
you can tutor any 2 cards by using ciphermaniac to reliably find mochi/stadiums/everything else, the only real loss is losing the extremely rare OHKO dragapult angle but ciphermaniac is reliable, fixes getting stamped, and zoroark already goes through the deck super fast so once you get them online the rest of the deck plays itself
>>59123203>Ciphermaniac in ZoroarkThe shit I have to read in this site.
>>59123236>main card lets you draw 2 on command>somehow it's bad in Zoroark and good in Kangaskhan and Gholdengo because it just is okay?
>>59123241It is barely seen in Kangaskhan and dengo as a one-of if any and that's because it need another card to be useful (an evolution pokemon at that) while Arven is useful on its own. Again you are operating from an optimal scenario POV when you really have to address things don't go perfectly on curve most of the time.
>>59123246I only ran it as a one of, but it's still a good card that lets you find key cards on demand which is very useful especially if you're running the pile and not the retardproof version with only the Zekrom/Reshiram. I agree Arven did too much for every deck and am personally glad it's gone, but it's not so dire of a deck to stop functioning without it, especially in the same format where Grimmsnarl is finding success without it when Grimmsnarl was one of the biggest Arven welfare recipients. There's so many ways to interchange your pokemon to get around Zekrom in the deck. For what it's worth, I don't think the solution is using Petrel either, because it simply doesn't do enough. I'm of the opinion that the deck is perfectly fine.
>>59123264Yes, it is just "fine" that much I can agree with.
>>59123270I'm afraid if you're wanting a deck on the same relative strength as Dragapult we'll all be left wanting for probably most of the year if not into the next. We have lost so many cards to rotation that left spaces too big to be filled by the likes of shit cards like Petrel. Mega Darkrai and Heatran are probably the best hopes since they're the featured cards of their sets that we know of but I'm not holding off hope considering the most recent batches of cards they've put out.
Would Drakloak work as an engine in non-Dragapult decks, or would it be too much investment to be worth it?
>>59121088Dude, secondary market has entire decks costing a handful of dollars. Scalpers ruin it for collectors, not for the actual players. At least not in Pokemon.
BUY SINGLES FUCKING SCHIZOS
>>59122987N's stadium anon. You can ultraball for pecharunt. Thats why you draw 7+ cards a turn.
>>59122461one zoroark got 12th at the last CL so they're still playing it. >>59123401a drakloak engine is a lot of cards but it works. dengo was using them before genesect released and was still getting t8. with tm evo gone it is a bit harder to set them up but you can probably just budew while you're working on it. however dundunsparce might be a better engine just because they can't get trapped like loaks can.
Are either of these cards good enough build a deck around or are the basically just here to look nice and I should just go grab some tournament winning list
>>59123903Left: Yes. Froslass is used all of the time: https://limitlesstcg.com/cards/ASC/47/decklists/jpRight: No, that's just a shittier version of Lillie's Clefairy ex.
>>59123911Guess I'll try buy a deck for left, much obliged. Wasn't sure if it was gonna be a trap card for new idiots like myself.
I'm gonna try olives on Live today.
>>59123757Read >>59122309All my LGSs are a wasteland of bulk commons because scalpers and value hunters just throw away every card that isn't worth money.Instead of giving them back to a LGS and getting maybe 10 bucks, they would rather just throw them away and fuck the entire card economy.So now I'm sitting for two weeks waiting for shipping having to spend 20+ on said shipping from TCG player because I had to order from 11 vendors and I'm paying them 20 cents but 4-5 dollars in shipping for worthless cards since I have no other option to get them. Absolutely abysmal. One of them unironically tried to charge me 20 dollars on fucking USPS tier shipping.
>>59124006Let's figure out a Crustle counter since the other guy can'tI'd say we add a dusknoir line or lopunny or munkior can we just hit it in bench with Fez
What's the best Pult list right now? I want big spread damage and multiple prize cards at once. Is Pultnoir still the best archetype for that?
>>59124101Different anon, played against enough Crustle to have some insight.Budew until you have a Meganium with 2 energy, stamp when Budew is KO'd. If they set anything else up behind it (Munkidori, Dwebble) then take it out with Arboliva. Use your bosses wisely. You can also attack with Noctowl to finish off a Crustle if you need it. Enhanced Hammer could also be worth playing to lower their HP and possibly get another free turn.If you want to get real spicy, there's the Bulu that deals 220 for 4 energy (could play Eswitch for quick charge) or this Pinsir
>>59124112Just copy the list used by touching grass and having sex.
>>59124112yeah pultnoir is the best one for huge multiprize comeback turns. the other builds don't really use noir except maybe the noctowl builds but you can use a 1-1 noctowl line in pultnoir too. the blaziken builds might be better in the meta if there's more arboliva in your area
So I've run into that water ogrepon that uses Sob and locks you down from retreating.Is the only answer to that bullshit using switch?
>>59124182Switch, kieran, surfer, pecharunt-ex, evolving, devolving, or blocking effects from attacks (mist energy, stone energy). Or having more munkidori than your opponent to keep damage off (doesn't work if they sudowoodo for 0 damage)
>>59124101How about I accept I will lose.
>turn two unfair stamp every gamemental retard design
>>59123903Froslass is retardedly OP and I'm shocked it hasn't caught on more yet
>>59124568You can only have one in your deck though, so it's balanced.
>>59124578Mega froslass is too easy to play around as soon as you see a snorunt on the board. And no one is playing salvator to make it a surprise option.You no longer have iono to 6 for 300 damage anymore either.
>>59124585LITERALLY all you have to do is pair it with mega Starmie. gg2ez
>>59124101You already have one in Meganium. Just power them up lol
>>59124578it was used in a greninja deck in the most recent champions league and it'll probably show up this weekend for orlando in munkidori frosslass decks
>>59124033The other anon said it all tho. You want bulk? Find the LGS's or other local chat groups and tell people what you want and they will bring it, nobody brings their bulk everytime they go to the LGS.
>>59119432I just use the free prize pack league stamped cards I get for playing in my decks to bling them out now.
>>59124863I don't know if it changed in the past 6 years, but as far as I knew we never had like dedicated group chats outside of cliques for like LGS shit.Maybe since discord is popular now, maybe people are running those but I have absolutely no ear to the ground on how to reach out besides going to events which is tonight.Still absolutely sucks ass that LGSs no longer just have the bulk available. Also the fact that fucking packs are like almost 10 dollars per when they used to be 3 for 11. How the fuck did the price go up that much? Is everyone just buying from scalpers or did the pokemon company spike the suggested MSRP out of greed because of scarcity?
>>59124967with the release of SV, they increased the price of a single booster to $4.5, but that's before scalpers. https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/pokemon-tcg-scarlet-violet-brings-changes-to-the-pokemon-trading-card-game
>>59125048I'm seeing boosters go for double RN, and now bundles going for almost double MSRP if they are still holding the 4.50 MSRP. Insane.I feel like a boomer who talks about when bread was 50 cents a few decades ago.
What does Arboliva do against Shaymin? Just Boss and kill it and hope they don't bring it back?
>>59125292Yeah. The best case scenario is to hit it with Meganium so you can try to force a 1-1 trade at the very least, but Shaymin really fucks this deck up. Personally I just like to hold olives in the hand until I can play forest into the entire tree, because if you do then your opponent has to guess whether you're playing the good deck (olives) or the bad one (venusaur). Shaymin really fucks this deck up unfortunately, but that's also going to be a slightly less severe problem when we get Beedrill, since it functions as a strong attacker alternative on a beefier body than Ogerpon,
