Bro broke the mold
Saw a youtuber sperg about this text constantly coming up while he was using haxorus in BW then 3 minutes later talk about how he had to use iron head or something into eelektross because of levitate. Was funny
>rather than building off of Emboar we got Ogrepon-HF but holding an Assault VestThis kind of Mega design can fuck off, I don't care if it makes it strong, it makes it an entirely different Pokemon. Every Emboar set is going to just be a carbon copy of it, just replace Horn Leech with Drain Punch and Trailblaze with Flame Charge
>>59118176>3rd fire/fighting in a row>2nd chinese themed fire starter in a rowliterally the least fitting starter to call a mold breaker
>>59118254what the fuck is he talking about
>>59118254Mega Emboar won't be as useful as Fire Ogerpon, plus it's a waste of a Mega spot for something stronger
The only good Mold Breaker pokemon are the ones that don't need it or have something better suited for it. Having it as the best or only option is a sign of a mon being shit i.e Veluza or Rampardos.
>>59118254>Ogerpon-HFNo it’s just regular Emboar larping with an Assault Vest. Ogerpon has a better typing, speed stat, Fire STAB, utility, and gets its own special snowflake Teraform that makes it hit harder than Zacian-Crowned.
Mega Emboar lost. Which is a shame because he's my favorite Fire Type starter.
>>59118326Another thing is that Emboar’s movepool is unironically too diverse.Mega Gyarados appraciates being able to hit Gastrodon, Seismitoad, Quagsire, Clodsire, and Volcanion with its Water STAB since Crunch isn’t Rain Boosted and Liquidation is slightly stronger normally. As well as Earthquaking Rotoms, Taunting Magic Bouncers, and hitting Unaware Pokemon.Excadrill appreciates Mold Breaker since Earthquake is its strongest neutral option and Iron Head has common resists like with the Rotoms.Emboar doesn’t really care. You have Close Combat, Heavy Slam, Knock Off, and Earthquake. The only common Pokemon where Mold Breaker matters is Mega Venusaur, using Taunt against Magic Bouncers (which you can just Heavy Slam Hatterene anyways if they aren’t running Focus Sash or max phys bulk), and Mimikyu.Everything else it can hit with coverage easily or is dogshit anyways.
>>59118415btw here is some other things about Mega Emboar.>Mega Emboar is strong enough to OHKO Persian-A that only invests into Def.252+ Atk Emboar-Mega Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 254-302 (93.7 - 111.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO>With Max HP, Persian would survive normally, but that is only with a neutral ability. With Tough Claws, Mega Emboar would OHKO anyways252+ Atk Tough Claws Emboar-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 332-392 (99.4 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO>Speaking of Tough Claws, the 30% damage bonus nearly negates abilities like Filter or Friend Guard anyways252+ Atk Tough Claws Emboar-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 220-261 (63.9 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252+ Atk Emboar-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Aggron-Mega: 228-270 (66.2 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>Mold Breaker can also be a negative in certain match ups. Such as against Dry Skin and Light Metal, or if your ally in Doubles has Levitate/Earth Eater>Btw Mold Breaker DOES NOT help vs Thermal Exchange. Thermal Exchange will cure the user anyways. That’s also ignoring how Bax is a fucking Ice type and dies to a Close Combat>Mega Emboar has 75 Spe, which makes it faster than Tsareena and Farigiraf anyways. Sucker Punch would still have uses against them (Scarf, Rapid Spin, Trick Room, etc. as well as against their allies I guess) but is way more situational.
Victory Dance will fix this!
>>59118176I don't care about comp. I still like him.
>>59118634Why the fuck does it have 110 Spa?
>>59118651Gamefreak balanced some of these like it’s still 2013.
>>59118651That's not the worst of it, they dumped like 50 points on its Special Defense for some reason.
>>5911870345*And that wouldn’t be so bad if Mega Emboar didn’t sprinkle the rest of its stats everywhere.40 Atk would would let it hit noticably hard40 Def would make it a great tank on both sides40 SpA would let Mixed sets be more viableAnd 40 Spe would be completely gamechanging. Maybe take some Speed off so it can function better in Trick Room and utilize the speed drop in its other stats, which would be useful anyways since Emboar was never a speedster.Instead we get every stat besides SpD being slightly higher and barely noticable besides maybe Atk being about 20% stronger.
OK, but why does Mega Ampharos have Mold Breaker?
>>59118736Uh.... it was blessed by Zekrom
what if it got scrappy instead?
>>59118736Ampharos really doesn't fit there, I guess he broke the mold......
>>59118736I can't tell what the theme of this ability is supposed to be.
>>59118736>mega becomes a dragon type>can’t abuse Draco Meteorlol
>>59118651Base emboar already had 100 spatt. It's just that GF for some reason decided to dumped 10 stats into lowest attacks for every ZA starters' megas.
>>59118819It’s their attempt to “balance” them. Mind you this is in an era where the raidons exist
>>59118807Able to utilize very concentrated points of tremendous power, enough to puncture through various defensive abilities.
>>59118176of being a good fire mega starter
>>59118831But Miraidon NEEDs an effective 196 SpA and for its Electric STAB to also have a 30% bonus on top of 135 Speed that blitzes even Tapu Koko and bulk that’s also better than Mew’s bulk at the same time! It could have been outclassed by Calyrex-Shadow otherwise!And what would Mega Glimmora even do with that 35 points they dumped into its Atk anyways?
