>Pokémon home update for ZA confirmed for tomorrow>No news for Fire Red, Leaf Green yet, but rumored to be included.
>>59119203I want to say there's no reason FRLG shouldn't be included but knowing how the pokemon company works it'll added on some random day 6 months from now
>>59119203So this is gatcha slop, right? It's already confirmed we're not getting the whole pokedex on release. I'm gonna guess they'll be drip feeding pokemon into the game for years.
>>59119203Are there any known Eeveelution buffs?
>>59119638Its live service, at least for now not a gacha. There is randomness in the teams you can recruit from champions but I dont think you can pay for "more rolls" and whatever is playable in the season you can transfer so saying its a gacha is a stretch unless you don't own any other pokemon game.They will change playable pokemons per season in ranked (apparently). So they do want people to keep paying for moves, pokemon and what not tho
Can some gigachad give me a Mega Dragonite team with movesets and spreadsNOBODY is talking about this guy so it's hard for a complete beginner like me to start
>>59119703Mega Dragonite + Pelipper. Being a STAB Hurrican spammer is the best thing MDnite has going for it.
>>59119647>gengar loses encore>incineroar loses knock offThese are the ONLY 2 moveset changes we know about. Nobody at PAX was allowed to look through movesets and all the early access poketubers hardly had time to look at any. We only know these 2 changes because Wolfey spotted them. So we'll likely be waiting until release day before we learn all the nerf/buffs.
We get the Home update for ZA tomorrow. Hopefully we'll be able to datamine all the megas abilities. Bank apparently had all the data for megas despite not being able to transfer them or held items.
>>59119638just transfer everything from pokemon home, then it stops being a gacha
Odds of getting new megas on release that we dont know about yet? They have to make a mega maCHAMP[/spoiler] for CHAMPions, r-right?
>>59119912zero chance because they would’ve been advertising it
>>59119945Game's not out for another year, why would they advertise everything this way ahead?
Is there more variety in singles "meta" than doubles?
I just hope it includes ZA mega abilities.
>>59119872You don't understand. This is a POKEMON board, which means nobody here actually plays pokemon. Champions threads will be filled with crybabies and beggars since they didn't prepare for a game we knew about a year ago.
>>59119986This is all anyone really wants out of the Home update.
>>59119638>It's already confirmed we're not getting the whole pokedex on release. I'm gonna guess they'll be drip feeding pokemon into the game for yearsGod this is so gay if it's true
>>59120025It IS true. I don't know why you dumb fucks want the full pokedex so badly. Nobody wants to play with fucking Urshishit and Ogrecunt anymore.
>Mobile games are now getting dex cut
>>59120025Its obviously true.The way they can milk money is changing what pokemons are playable each season. They get to promote new games, avoid a stale meta and make special events. I have been in the mood of getting Fire Red or Leaf Green to play this weekend and get some of the pokemons i cant catch in Scarlet, but having only like 10 pokemons from there in Champions definitely bothers me. I dont want ZA or SS.
I'm going to jump into Champions when it comes out. I have been completely out of the loop w/ competitive pokemon since shortly after the release of S/V (so about early 2023). I have not played ZA. What should I know about the current meta?
>>59120112It's weather wars galore currently on the Pre-Champions showdown server. Expect at least one weather setting (Mega-Froslass, Pelliper, Ttar, Prankster Whimsicott). Incineroar is pretty common to due to intimidate.Archaludon is menace due to Stamina + Body Press so watch out for that too.
>>59119967No.
>>59120112pelipper archaludon, some pelipper archaludon, some people running pelipper archaludon or the least popular version pelipper archaludonthere's some extremely good players who see a bit of success with politoed archaludon however
>>59120168>already got master rank mark on my peliTime to step up, Mr. Toad
>>59120168I love overcentralized metas because it means I can just play the hard-counter and get easy wins. That's right, go Pelipper and Archaludon.
>>59120174ah yes the hard counters like uhh, hmm.
Pokemon Champions is the legacy battle system's retirement home. The main games will no longer feature it so expect severe streamlining.
>>59120178Runerigus I guess
>>59120179I could see this being true, but I also expect Winds and Waves to be turn based like usual.
>>59120181eats a hydro pump
>>59120178Gastrodon our lord and savior
>>59120181i press weather ball, ggs shake my hand
>>59120168It's the most blatantly obvious strong duo that doesn't take up your mega slot.We also don't even have any terrain setters confirmed. So it's all weather wars right now when nobody can even build an expanding force team.
>>59120178Yzard, but it can turn the game into a coin flipping weather war pissing match if the pelipper/arch player is good.
electro shot was a fucking mistake
>>59120213Switches to gastrodon
>>59120235sorry i lied i actually pressed tailwind
Haven’t played competitive since SM. What are some good Singles mons?
>>59120246>Singleswho cares
>>59120240MY second slot trick roomed
I don't think anyone is actually going to lead Peli+Arch right?You'll keep pelipper in the back to fish for mega weather.
>>59120267>lead peli arch>swap peli for politoed if opponent has weathergg ez
>>59120267nice try
>>59120269>have 2 overlapping support mons with common weaknessesu do u >>59120294>lose weather supremacy T1
>>59120207>>59120235as someone who loves gastrodon but has zero experience with vgc, this is great news to me. what are some good mons to go along with gastrodon? I have a shiny charizard in Go, would charizard Y be good? what else?i give zero fucks if my team is autistically optimized and min maxxxed, I just want some decent synergy to have fun and not get btfo in every battle when this game comes out. I have access to just about every mon through home, so that's not a concern.
>>59120310Hate to break it to you anon, but gastrodon isn't confirmed for Champions just yet
>>59120247Me hence the question
I think I want to build a team around Mega Gengar, shadow tag sounds fun. Any suggestions?
>>59120341Flutter ManeCalyrex-ShadowIncineroarUrshifu (rapid)Rillaboom
>>59120333if gastrodons not in it, then i'm not playing. simple as.
>>59120341Perish trapping with Gengar and/or Politoed, also using the latter to manipulate weather and pair with backup rain abusers
>>59120269You simply don't lead pelipper if you see a torkoal in team preview
>DUDE SHADOW TAG MEGA GENGAR IS GONNA BE SO BROKEN>always gives you a chance to switch before mega evolvingI don't know what all the hype is about
>>59120346You joke but I actually want to use Flutter Mane whenever she's available even if she fills the same role as Gengar, just because I like Misdreavus a lot. If it were feasible I'd run an entire ghost team.>>59120356Good idea, I like Politoed.
how many people are going to play this and drop it within the month?
>>59120411I dunno. there won't be a steamchart for you to shitpost over though.
>>59120411about 3
>>59120411Most casuals probably will
>>59120411It will be a game that twitter troons complain about constantly but continue to play religiously every day.
>>59120461I will keep complaining about the lack of pre-evos and play everyday, yes.
>>59120411Many people may not be enfranchised because the game is structured as a time sink.They tout "accessability" a lot by removing things like IV's or simplifying EVs, yet the make it take 2 battles worth of time to change a single move.(250VP for a move, 200VP for victory) What they really mean is the game is more available to play.At the end of the day this game is monetizing a core aspect of the Pokemon series that up till now was just granted.
Mega Gengar has been speedcrept so badly by threats that I don't see it making big waves.
>use my daily to hopefully get a viable mon>my choice are hisuian avalugg, emboar, simipour, ariados, scovilain and watchogMaybe the dexcut wasn’t a bad idea after all
>>59120478How many times are you low IQ niggers gonna post about VP per battle? The game has MISSIONS you retarded fuck. Most your VP will come from those. Nobody is gonna have to grind a million battles just to get VP.
>>59120478>200VP for victorysource?> this game is monetizing a core aspect of the Pokemon series that up till now was just granted>granted>have to own full price gamesand you can literally just transfer them
>>59120491>source?https://youtu.be/pOfW-qdsvpU?si=MLMuY2tH5aLUBkTP
>>59120488And those missions will be frontloaded to hell to hook you in and then slow to a trickle
>>59120501do we get 200 at any rank? do we get 200 only for victory? do we get something if we lose?
>>59120487>aw sorry player, best we can do is Wailord>would you like to purchase additional rolls using our in-game tickets*>*purchased with real money
>>59120512idk anon. all we know is that winning in the lowest rank gives 200
>>59120478>>59120501>>59120502You are free to just transfer your pokemon from the main games, you know?
>>59120512You get 200VP.Your questions don't matter.
>>59120525do they really not matter or are they just inconvenient to your agenda
What's even the point of a game like this if out of a gazillion pokemon, everyone is basically forced to use the same handful or lose.Like what's the point of having a heracross if its going to get shitted on by the meta.how can you have a "competitive" game where 90% of the roster are liabilities. I dont think anything game comes even close to how unbalanced this will be.
>>59120555>anon discover gacha for the first timeFor every 6 stars pokemon there need to be be 20 one stars dexfiller
>>59120555Articuno had zero results prior to 2024.There are different mons that can be well positioned in a given meta.
>>59120578>articuno had 0 used before they fixed the ice type in gen 9wow
>>59119203Kitt sexo
>>59120589Thanks for agreeing you retarded nigger.
>>59120555>I dont think anything game comes even close to how unbalanced this will be.its so funny that people say things like this, its like they were born yesterday
>>59119638>So this is gatcha slop, right?yes and nothe recruitment system is more or less gacha, but it can also be entirely avoided if you've touched go or any mainline game in the last 10 yearseven if you haven't, people have already organized efforts to gather a bunch of pokemon that can be brought to champions in exchange for fletchlings or something
I haven't played doubles since gen 6Is fake out still very strong on a lead? Are priority abusers like prankster/gale wings still good?
>>59119955champions is out in a week
>>59120179I genuinely feel that wifi battles might go extinct in future games if champions doesn't flop.
>>59120797yes to all, though gale wings got nerfed so now it only works when you have full hpergo, talonflame is more of a fast support mon now that clears hazards with defog or sets up instant tailwind
>>59119778>>59119986I'm struggling to see why this wouldn't have new mega abilities, the update is for both ZA and Champions. The mobile version of Home lists mega abilities in the pokedex.
>>59120797There's a lot more fake out counterplay these days. Lots of mons gained immunity(inner focus) and covert cloak now exists.It's a strong tool, but not nearly as strong as it was.
>>59120815the pla home update didn't include abilities for those mons, even though they had some coded in that gamethat update also proves they can just leave things like that blank, so i would argue it's far more likely we won't actually know their abilities until champions drops next weeknot a terribly long wait, but it would of course be nice if we didn't have toi just wouldn't get my hopes up too far
>>59120821>muh plass replacement shitmon that’s because they didn’t matter unlike mega evolutions
>>59120821PLA Home update is a pointless comparison, it released a year before SV in a time when no game used their abilities. And again this is literally the update for both ZA and Champions, on what planet does it not have basic data from those games?
Has there been any confirmation that if a pokemon goes to Champions that it can go back to previous games? Some of my guys aren't done getting all their ribbons...
>>59120816armor tail, psy terrain, and ghost type as well
>>59120840Iirc Champions doesn’t change the games a Pokemon can move to, it’s transferring to ZA that is a one way trip
>>59120832even if we did pretend that was a metric any official pokemon product cared about, several of the pla mons saw a ton of success in competitive play>>59120835>And again this is literally the update for both ZA and Championsthe only game that's been confirmed for this update is z-ano fr/lg, no champions>on what planet does it not have basic data from those games?this one>z-a: has no abilities>champions: compatability not being added with this updatesolve for x>>59120840yesmons that go to champions from home aren't locked there and can go back to home whenever you want
>>59120840Apparently you don't actually send Pokemon to Champions, they just get locked in Home when visiting, meaning no compatibility issues. This is info from C*ntro though so the credibility is a coin flip.
>>59120794They should restart the Magnemite Coil, that shit was dope back in Gen 5
>>59120847based>>59120850I knew they could go back to home, I meant like going to BDSP to get the daily or contest ribbons
>>59120850>the only game that's been confirmed for this update is z-aChampions is, but not FRLG
I'm really happy they're killing IV's for champions. This alone might save the game for me
>>59120207>>59120310Gastrodon has not been confirmed yet. Seems like it has a high chance to appear but we don't know at this stage.
>>59120310calyrex shadow
>>59120589Sometimes it's not just fixing. Sometimes it's certain mons interacting with a generational gimmick in just the right way. Look at normal tera choice band extremespeed Dragonite. Dnite was "okay" until Gen 9. A niche pick, generally seen as a worse Salamence. Now it's a dangerous threat next to Chien Pao. Or, looking back at Gen 8, physical Thundurus with Fly and Wild Charge; it was one of the best Dynamax users.
>>59120883do that for WW too, it's always been a garbage mechanic.
>>59120179That makes no sense. Why would the pvp for a game use a different battle system than the game itself.>buy Pokemon Gen 12>it has a real time battle system in game>but multiplayer pvp is a turn based system that hasn't been in game in a decadeEither Champions will be updated to match the battle system of the main games, or the main games will stay turn based.
>>59120809It's Pokemon. If Champions isn't abandoned by the next console gen, it will get updates 6-12 months after the mainline games.
>>59120987In other news fuck Mega Dragonite it doesn’t even do anything cool it’s just normal Dragonite with 700 BST
>>59121000I agree it doesn't make sense, but there's words from the developers themselves that suggested(paraphrasing) they wanted to house the legacy battle system in Champions and that would allow GF to experiment with Pokemon's main series, as though they feel it's restricting them.
>>59121023Yep and you don't want to lose multiscale T1, so even running inner focus and absorbing a fake out is pointless.
>>59121027It should have gotten Aerilate with those giant wings on its head.
>>59121000Or the main games have their own online battle modes like ZA and don't interact with the classic format at all.
>>59121030>dragon/flying pseudo with AerilateSeems a bit redundant, no?
>>59121037It's better than bootsless Multiscale, and gives it accurate Flying STAB.
>>59121023it's a special attacking sidegrade. I don't see it being used outside rain teams though.
>>59121032Or Game Freak shouldn't be trying to fix what isn't broken, and actually make good turn-based JRPGs again.
>>59120179>ignoring teraleak to spew fanfictionThey outright said in teraleak files the "main" series (it's ALL "main series" to them btw) or rather paired new Gen entries and the DLC packs for them are the "classic" (read baby-easy for kids and casuals) formula and as such retain the "retarded child" turn-based battle engine (because that's far easier for children and normalfags to process than expecting them to have played twitch vidya to the point of "getting" the combat flow's adjustments to the proceedings (got bodied by 4 alpha carnivine in L: A as I couldn't just nobrain the cunts and they were gangbanging me after starting off badly). The catch scene displayed in the trailer sure does look like the "classic" catch attempt cutscene the non-Legends games received on Switch also (as well as every other fucking babby-tier entry in the series history has portrayed in SOME fashion).
>>59121056BW sucked lil bro
>>59121091The fact that Champions (ie. the new PvP hub) is still turn-based proves that your retarded gibberish is dead wrong.It's the new battle systems that are aimed at the casual audience who refuse to play anything without the Pokémon branding.
>>59121056Based on the trailer it seems like it's still turn based, it's possible it'll be more like Arceus since that doesn't really work for multiplayer but is fine tor singleplayer.
>>59121100>pokémon used to make good jpgs>automatically thinks of black/whiteWhat did he mean by this?I could've meant literally any other pre-Switch mainline game. Not just Gen 5.
>>59121100well yes, every gen sucked more than the last
>>59121113>Based on the trailer it seems like it's still turn based,That's my point.There nothing wrong with the original battle system as long as Game Freak balance their games properly.Nufans just like being contrarian.
were going to see pokemon change into arpg slop. its happening, deal
>>59121110>the fact that it's [HEADCANON]Its existence is to kill showdown lad. That's why they're starting with two expired gimmicks before going to ANOTHER expired gimmick for L: G. But until 2028 and they saying "hey, VGC is on champions", assuming it's staying there is foolish (cart comps ensure everyone playing's a nice nintendrone and not some filthy phonemonkey, regardless how much per year they're paying).] And seeing as the engine for Champions is the default game engine for ALL the paired games (as again, they're kept retard child friendly and the trad game engine is so retard child friendly legitimately stalling out the clock on cunts was a legitimate strat on the tistic magnet that Champions is going to aid targeting with a C'n'D order). Enjoy watcing the sherminator or whatever the cunt's name is getting dragged into court for historic flagrant copyright abuse.
>>59121091The legacy battle system is much more elaborate than ZA. You'd have to be a mental midget to not see that clearly.
>>59121133Literally just play Xenoblade, bro.It has an actual world to explore and you don't even need a new console to play it.
I will give them a few millions in microtransactions to make sure they get another taste of that forbidden mobage money fruit until they stop making those garbage mainline games. I already did it with GO, Unite and Pocket.
>>59121136And yet it's retard easy, where kids can sit for hours agonising over what move to use (or more likely "sit as a 4 year old sperg looking at the free marketing of the monsters, while it tries to work out what the fuck it should do, all the while without getting molested, pushed in a crate and mailed back to Momma until they make their move"). Yeah anon, that's the key factor in ANY long-standing well-appreciated mechanic - easy as fuck to understand and work within, high as fuck ceiling to get to top-level play competitively. Doesn't actually discredit anything I said and you'd have to be an autstic cunt to ignore the deliberate differences in the mechanics of both (because the Legends series is ALSO a more experimental game series, where they specific ally set out to present adifferent battle engine to what came before (while still holding some traits of it).
>>59121159>play [unrelated teen weeb angst horseshit]Why the fuck would I want to play not!Pokémon pokémon on Switch? And what's funniest is I gave the exact same response (adjusted for game and system) to a mate IRL who suggested I play FFX on PS2. I don't care for non-Pokémon JRPG's because the JRPG/RPG formula isn't really my bag, unless it's somehow tied to a similar, but unrelated mechanic (BL series - shooting things earns points, which earn levels which earn perks which persist across play sessions, melding action/shoot 'em up style gameplay with RPG tropes). just accept Game Freak are beholden to the publisher and producer of the hardware they deveop for and not brown phonemonkeys who can't afford a new Switch 2.
>>59121166>easy as fuck to understand and work within, high as fuck ceiling to get to top-level play competitively.Yes. That's what makes the og battle system so good.Are just literally that stupid to not realise that you've just debunked yourself?I don't see the point in reinventing the wheel when they struck gold on day one.
>>59121182>And what's funniest is I gave the exact same response (adjusted for game and system) to a mate IRL who suggested I play FFX on PS2.Your friend is smart. If you like Legends Arseus' battle system, Final Fantasy 10 is something you should try out. Especially since it has been ported to Switch as well.It's very linear, though. So it might not be for everyone.>just accept Game Freak are beholden to the publisher and producer of the hardware they deveop for and not brown phonemonkeys who can't afford a new Switch 2.Nintendo?I doubt Nintendo wants Pokémon to turn into a Xenoblade knock-off, when they already own Xenoblade.
>>59121133They aren't going to kill Showdown. They don't want to kill Showdown, even with Champions existing.
Does Dondozo do poorly into Archaludon? I haven’t seen people talk about it much
>>59121266yes. no tera to save it from weaknesses and low spdef
Which items do you guys think will be most slept upon?
>>59121269Hard to say without abilities. Maybe Chimecho. Decent type, good bulk, and about as deep of a movepool as it would need.
>>59121266>Go go gadget Electro Shot
>>59119203>24 hours until we finally get mega ability confirmationsWho are you most excited for?
I know a lot of people like tera, I do too, but it will be nice playing a meta that isn't so gambling heavy.Tera fundamentally changed the way we play the game by making the first objective to force your opponent to burn tera just to get the ambiguity out of the way. You played this way to ensure you weren't putting all your chips in on one turn just to be wrong and lose the game right there.High stakes bluffing is stressful. Mega formats aren't nearly as much of a mystery, you generally can guess from the team preview who is going to evolve allowing you to map out turns in advance easier.
>>59121000Also why literally make an explicit spinoff series with its own new systems of battling and then change the mainline to match them. It's like saying Zelda Four Swords Adventures is a sign that LOZ is gonna be a multiplayer co-op franchise from now on.
>>59121283Malamar
>>59121269Brightpowder. Looking at the PAX demo it's likely one of the freebie held items they'll start you out with. So we are gonna see a LOT of rng hax at launch.
>>59121283Falinks
You guys wanna hear something nastyShed tail mega Dragonite
>>59121277Just looking at the calcs, Dozo has no problem standing in front of arch because EQ is an easy 2hko with commander. Arch is outsped and only does about 40% with +1 electro shot. Pelipper doesn't get haze, so make sure you have that positioned somewhere.Dozo + Tatsu teams are going to be really oppressive because Tatsu can mega after losing Dozo.
>>59121287It doesn't really matter anyways because between the starters having abilities listed on the website and the SV camera system being used in the trailer when that pikachu got caught I don't know what combat system gen 10 would even use if not turn base. Especially when it comes to underwater combat. That and we already have that leak of the melty pikachu that was in a turn base battle.
>>59121295How… fun.
>>59120487This is going to lead to various Pokemon being absolutely hated.
>>59121295>brightpowder>focus band>king's rock>scope lens>quick claw>blunder policyHere is your 6 free held items bro. Go farm those twitter clips!
>>59121319Honestly I think having both the Legends series for real time battles and prior settings and then the main series for turn based battles and new settings is perfectly fine. With Champions to focus on competitive instead of forcing people to constantly jump through hoops in the mainline games too.
>>59120487You do realise you can transfer in whatever you want from Home?
>>59120519Just transfer from the mainline games you dumbfuck. Home has 1 box for free so if you're using it purely for transfer instead of storage you're literally set.
>>59121353It'll be the issue that mobile kiddies have to deal with......Is what I WOULD say if they didn't also have access to GO.
>>59121283Golurk
>>59121360Yeah it's literally a non-issue. The only time you'd have issue with getting the pokemon you want is MAYBE if you literally have zero other pokemon games.
>>59121358I'm of the perspective that this app doesn't make pokemon more "accessible", just more available.The person who doesn't already have boxes and boxes of competitive mons will have to spend an inordinate amount of time battling just to do basic things.It's easy for us to say "just transfer bro" but we were already enfranchised and normies aren't. There are 27 million copies of SV sold worldwide and the conversion rate to VGC players is less than 1%. Likely more to do with time investment considerations rather than complexity.
>>59121283Darkrai
>>59121309eruption charizard y
>>59121381The thing is that you don't need boxes on boxes of competitive mons. IVs are removed so they don't transfer over, EVs seem to be changed so it's unlikely they'll transfer over, and movesets are by game instead of attached to the mon itself AND you can teach them in champions itself. Granted, Champions has a fee for all of those in in-game points, but even then the point remains all you really need is a single sample of a pokemon to then subsequently make it competitive ready. The only real stopping points are stuff like legendaries who we're not even sure are gonna be included in Champions at launch.
>>59121283It’s UTC not whatever time you think it is. So just under 12 hours
>>59121390Closest I can do is Fire+grass pledge.150BP sun boosted STAB that uses Venusaur's chlorophyll speed and ZardY's SpAtk.
>>59121398The format isn't going to be double restricted for a good long while.
>>59121405Also sets swamp for 1/2 speed before additional buffs/debuffs
>>59121407Swamp is grass-water.Fire-grass does 1/8th damage each turn to opponents.
>>59121405Only problem with this is you only get 1 hit because it uses both of their moves for 1 attack.
>>59121406Nah they already announced VGC on it. It'll just have both.
>>59121419Correct, but you only use it when your opponent has a fast threat on the field. You can catch them by surprise by outspeeding base 150s with just 100evs on a modest Venusaur.It's entirely dependent upon westher supremacy though.
>>59121309Tough Claws M-Skarmory, just because Dactylfags would seethe that they'll never be the Bravest Bird
>>59121424What does this post even mean?A double restricted format won't even be imminent after Worlds this year.
>>59121283I want to see how they’ll redeem Malamar. If they even can, lmao
>>59121285Are dynamax metas also stressful?
>>59121444Yes, much more so.Tera was a big step up from Dyna, I actually like tera.
>>59121414Oh my bI only ever used pledge memes with a Mew team during Reg J with scarf rilla to bluff fake out
>>59121444dyna is god awful
Will recently dexcut moves come back in Champions? Pursuit, Spotlight, Magic Coat, etc?I'm inhaling copium.
>>59121469No chance.Some mons may lose tools though and several mons need fewer good moves just to nerf.
>>59121283I'm also very interested in Pyroar, Dragalge, Staraptor, Drampa and Chandelure
>>59121480Some mons already lost tools, and PP values got nerfed on some moves.
>>59121480Stupid if true. Magic Coat in particular, mons with access to it could bait out Taunt and then set up Trickroom or whatever. It rewarded intelligent play.Spotlight never got good distribution but it was basically a counter to the common redirection play.But no, purge the big brain moves and keep the drooling idiot ones I guess.
>>59121403Yeah I was about to say we have like around 6 or so hours
>>59121482My totally 100% happening guesses>PyroarIncreases the power of Fire type moves to all allies and decreases damage of fire type moves towards allies>DragalgeGives Poison / Toxic Poison a Leech Seed effect>StaraptorContrary (because it's an emo design pokemon)>DrampaDrizzle>ChandelureInverse Minds Eye
>>59121283Weren't they all leaked beforehand?
>>59121584Not all of them. Even the ones that did leak are unsure "?" because of the language barrier with the leaker and the version he played.
>>59121407Swamp is 1/4 speed
>>59121283Golisopod, just for confirmation on the Tough Claws rumor
>>59121579>Chandelure>Inverse Minds EyeI feel like MChandelure only got that weird eye because they realized it looked exactly the same as it's regular form in the menu icon without it lol.
>>59121403Do we have a solid time?
>>59121702Even if we know the exact time we don't know how long it will take the autists to check if the mega abilities are there.
>>59121702Goes down at 00:00 utc, supposed to come back up at 6:00 but serebii says it maybe be a staggered roll out
>>59121709You're kidding yourself if you don't think they'll have all of them in minutes.
>>59121448I still don't like Teras
>>59121480Can we get more moves distributed to weaker mons as well?
>>59121785this, hopefully the Petas on WiWa are better
>>59121885I can only imagine if they are including shit like Ariados and Emolga that they've given them SOMETHING new to their moveset.
>>59121902I thought those were included because of PLZA?
>>59121709>>59121766if it works how we expect it to, itll literally be as simple as opening the pokedex in home and going to the relevant entries
>>59121906Exactly. Within minutes of it going live, possibly even beforehand.
