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With us still on break for several days, I have a question for everyone:>What is one thing you don't like about Horizons, and how would you change or improve it?
>>59119925For those questions I go into the Fanfic general.
>>59119925>Not lining it up with the anniversary of the animeTake a page out of TQanon's book and line them up with dates.
Currently watching the second chapter, the fillers are fine but the abrupt bloat of them afterwards is offputting.
>>59119924>>59119925It's the 29th anniversary.One job, mate.
So uuhhh, any ideas for more ZA coverage?Or Pokopia content considering the Ditto teaser?
>>59119924What did LiCute eat?
>>59119925Starting in Kanto.That's it really. Aside from basically being more Kanto sentiment, not much gained from it. Change it to Galar or Paldea (Recency bonus, helpful with the former). And maybe swapping out the episodes of the Heroes recruitment across different stages, dividing chapter 2's bloat.
>>59119950>more ZA coverage?More Mega forms (Which are most likely gonna be covered by Gurumin segments, they're running out of old ones at this point)Second Emma appearance, showing characters from the games, maybe exploring the side quest.>Pokopia content considering the Ditto teaser?Different dimension or something. It being from a doomed world sounds too distinct to have happened under the conditions of the anime.
>>59119950I don't like ZA so hopefully nothing. As for Pokopia, more Ditto hijinks. It's literally something that emulates others.
>>59119950Emma barging on board to torture Uruto.
>>59119947I thought about that but I didn't want to reopen discussion about the Ashnime, that tended to not end well whenever it happened.
>>59119925Show Roy's parents. They're the odd one out in their portrayal.
>>59119965Those got filtered by the months of earlier abstaining. Neutral ground questions are the winning move.
>>59119965NTA but I recommend engaging with the answers you receive if you start TQs, makes it more engaging.
Show more of Dot in dresses please.Also it's bloody criminal that Uruto conveniently got skimmed over from seeing her.
>>59119939Yeah, not the best but the transition into the next chapter was a good finisher.
Looks like everyone's partner Pokémon gets featured.
>>59119981>They are gonna feature Pecharunt like it's a heroThat thing still hasn't released the lousy three btw.
>>59119971This. Don't say they're literally overseas without running into them while you're on a blimp.
>>59119956I have to agree with that. I know that the anime has moved away from straight adaptations of the games, but I'm not sure if the current practice is an improvement. I miss visiting all those game locations, seeing game characters, seeing game events referenced. I think Horizons handled Paldea way better than Journeys did Galar, but there's definitely room for improvement.>>59119950I'm genuinely surprised we haven't had anything ZA-related in the anime yet, or even a special. Maybe the Poketoon stuff with the Megas was it, but it wasn't explicitly about ZA or the characters.
>Meager orbs caused so much damage to the local economyWhat a Chad.
>>59120001It's a mixture of approach that is more favorable despite limitations imposed down.While not following the main objective from the game, let them more tied up from a right angle. I think them putting the events of the SV events as postgame is a good idea, highlighting how the protagonists aren't the only ones who run around running into conflicts while dipping into the characterization of the post-game characters which are either simple one-liners in the games or being loaded by the ambiguity of the telling in the gacha.The structure of the Likonime atm is fine to me, it's more akin to a building set where some parts are left out that fill out some blanks.
>>59120021>it's more akin to a building set where some parts are left out that fill out some blanks.Weird analogy but I get the idea. Those could be meshed with either material from the games as an ongoing happening while the stage is took up by the main story of the anime.
My hero Cap.
>>59120007How he instantly turned around the odds against those terrorists is inspiring.
>>59120007My favorite bad guy.
>>59120001Mega Lucario Z and Mega Dragonite.I might argue that it could be loosely placed before the events of ZA. I mean while some people change little in one year, locations with the power of humans and Pokemon combined in a city with technical advancements, it's possible to see potential breeding grounds for the battle royale and what not. I mean them planting those wild zones in a city itself seems like a potential point of interest that can mix with the idea of letting nature alone, which is something Gibeon didn't gave two shits about while being in his turbotism mode.
>>59120049I was thinking more of ZA characters rather than specific Pokemon. Think the characters like Lumiose or Gwynn, Lumiose, etc.
>>59120060The game itself throws up the idea of Tera vs Mega, could be a ground for them to do it in a prequel esq manner which is a solid foundation for the ZA characters to pop in, either as they start out or are in their state of being from the source material.
>>59119924>Liko please show us something that best represents your anime
>>59120079That's LiCute, not Liko.
>>59120090Mayonaise really left an impression on Liko
>>59120060I meant to say Canaria instead of Lumiose.
>>59120090>Liko immediately going panic modeFinally they show how much of it happening can affect a kid.
>>59119981That thing looks stupid.
Can Xavier appear please?
>>59119925The shit treatment of non-starter Pokemon. I get that the starter Pokemon are their closest partners but they've done a remarkably bad job of handling non-starter Pokemon, especially Pokemon like Liko's witch hat.
Believe in DotLiko.
>>59120428No.
>>59120037He knows his stuff.
>>59120021Personally I can’t agree with that. While it may give the picture of everyone being the hero of their own story, the end result was basically the equivalent of the post-game empty world. In skipping out on these things entirely, not only do you miss out on potentially interesting interactions for the anime’s cast but you miss out on development of the game characters along the way. When you just get the fully developed versions of them, all they become is props that are really nothing more than a reminder that the game exists. Like, having Nemona and Penny join in for the final battle would be a lot more meaningful if we had experienced their growth throughout the course of the series that makes them feel like recurring support characters rather than random add-ons that joined on a whim
>>59120623>feel like recurring support charactersThey are reoccurring?
>>59120116Honestly surprised it doesn't happen more often.
>>59120128Do you mean Nemona or Pawmot? If it's the latter then I can see how.
Licute
>>59120666I need a LiQueen variant.
>>59120666>666
>>59120666
>>59120428I believe.
>>59119924>"pooping">literally jerking off to Alex
>>59120703That's not Liko. It's LiCute
>>59120837Oh my bad>literally jerking off to AleCute
https://x.com/Alynn610/status/2039368510347088197
>>59119950>So uuhhh, any ideas for more ZA coverage?The new megas, mainly the ones that got patched in through DLC.
>>59120645Yea. Nemona’s been showing up whenever they’re in Paldea since arc 1 and Penny since arc 3
>>59119950Friede with a Mega maybe.
>>59120090What's her problem? He's nice.
>>59119963>more Ditto hijinks. It's literally something that emulates others.Gonna expect it to make parodies of either the reception towards Pokemon itself or to mimic others in a shenanigan manner
>>59119950>ideas for more ZA coverage?Liko with a ditto.
https://x.com/fuladaris/status/2039027042469958050
>>59121228People wonder which mega liko could get... and the answer would be all of them. Though while this will be answered when champions comes out... would they let a ditto copy a mega and then have a tera orb used on it? I assume you can't use a tera orb on a mega, but what about a ditto that's transformed....
>>59121282Could be an idea for a ditto to mimic Megas. Double the screentime effectively for it.
>>59120680She's growing too powerful.
>>59121524Shoujosuge....
>>59121524cute
>>59121524I like this reference
Thank god there’s fanart that acknowledges BOTH of our protagonist for Horizons.
>>59121582Gibeon is malding.
Can Liko please put Spinel out?
>>59122139Pikachu and Liko? Agreed!
>>59122140Gibeon is malding.Lucius is celebrating.Rystal is happy.Spinel is suicidalRoy is seething.Dotto-shi is heartbroken.Iono is planning.Uruto is touching himself thinking about Roy.Friede is confused.Alex is painting.
>>59122208Good
>>59122208So that's the power of Amelikokino
>>59119925Trying to do something new, then after Racqua finishes doing a complete 180 and turning Roy into another Ash
>>59122890That power is gonna get him killed.
>>59122902>himw-who?
https://x.com/toro_gremar/status/2038764456633884716
>>59121228Thats just asking for trouble.
>>59119977>Also it's bloody criminal that Uruto conveniently got skimmed over from seeing her.Yeah he should lose his marbles.
Liko Holding hands in public....
>>59123175You bloody sicko.
>>59120208What would he do?
>>59123175Blue board!
>>59122944Cute
>>59122902That's the best part.
>>59122146>Can Liko please put Spinel out?Why would she eliminate a hero?
>>59121147Would be a bit meh if it was only later patched in megas or legendaries.
>>59119925>GoodFinally changing the formula up and making earnest attempts at both underlying stories and character arcs. >BadTime skip has been weak. The animation has gotten worse and Roy just isn't very interesting of a character.
>>59122905Meowscarada of course.
Where's Alex?
What the fuck is up with this deflection shit? I haven't been here for a while and decided to visit the older threads and I noticed something that caught my eyes, motherfuckers are being stubborn with accepting criticism about Roy. Every time someone try to complain about him, I have seen people deflect and said, "They're just a Likofag". Nigga what?No fuck faggot. Roy is one of the main character and as such, we will be following him around. If I am watching 5 episodes where he is leading, then of course I'm going to judge it, based on him. If I said "out of those 5 episodes, only one entertain me" that's not because I'm a Likofag, it's because Roy isn't a good character. There are episodes where neither Liko nor Roy are leading and they ended up being great. If the one of the main character can't get me to like him or truly enjoy the episode, then I have the right to criticize him without being assume that I'm a (insert character)fag.
>>59123648Talk about the anime, not about the posters.
>>59121219>Friede with a Mega maybe.Ok, aside from Mega Starmie he would obviously be the Kanto rep so the pool is limited to that.
That time of year coming around again.
I want them to feature more Pokeballs with unique gimmicks. The first Karna episode was honestly the first one in a long while the balls had actual properties beyond Pokemon-related conditions.A remote controllable Pokeball sounds like a minigame that can also be turned around into another minigame while keeping the interal structure for the games.
>>59123663That has the leeway to become distracting from a development aspect. Combine that with Gamefreak's subpar efforts and you get another lambasting reason of mediocre quality control
>>59123663It will only be skin deep.
>Be Spinel>Just win
Amethio should show up more.
>>59123670>>59123673If it is another variation of evo balls I'll vomit.
>>59123745Can they even still do any variations?
>>59123679Thats unfair.
https://x.com/copituji/status/2039576414614405481/photo/1
>>59123877Maria....
>>59123909Kek.
>>59123526>Roy just isn't very interesting of a characterIt really feels like the writers were just lazy when they created Roy. Like, it’s pretty obvious that he’s around to try to appeal to fans of Ash but he just comes off as a shallow Ash clone like the writers basic thought in making him was “okay let’s remake Ash but this time, he sings.” All the archetypes they could have used and they just reused Ash’s
>>59124096He didn't owned or started the archetype ffs
>>59124168He may not own or have started it but we had it for 25 years only for them to follow that with the same archetype for the next male protagonist. It’s both lazy and made Roy less interesting as a result. At least other series that changed protagonists over time had the sense to not make consecutive protagonists feel the same
>>59124188I agree but then start by using those examples from Pokemon itself for what a boy head character could also be. From the manga to the rare audio drama.
>>59121582Alex better locks Liko up.
>>59123175>Liko Holding hands in public.
>>59123526>making earnest attempts at both underlying stories and character arcs.> Main characters has an army of legendary Pokémon against an evil CEO and his hired grunts.> Pre-timeskip arc came down to an 100 years old manchild whining about nobody playing with him and guilt-trip Zygarde to fight for him.There is not a single thing earnest about this attempt.
>>59124212>From the manga to the rare audio drama.NTA but honestly, not a bad pick. Later gens even goes into the minigame content on a bigger scale.
>>59123522>Would be a bit meh if it was only later patched in megas or legendaries.Fair enough.
>>59119924LiCute needs an assistant.
https://x.com/hakuriki_yrmn/status/2017173418362503488/photo/1
>>59124365Dorks.
Warum ist Uruto so ein verdammtes Schnitzel?
https://x.com/tanizoko121/status/2039358480071712913/photo/1
>>59124070Alex first and second wives are so cute
>>59123648Can we drop the Liko vs Roy narrative already? Because both of them sucks. Just admit that the writing of the series has serious issue rather than dropping all the blame on a single character.
>>59121542
Dot stinks.
Make Anne great again.
>>59124341She doesn't
>>59124694With all that power, she might lose sight.
I figured the ditto would have the ditto face, but I wonder if it will also shapeshift into chibi versions of pokemon like the ditto in pokopia? Or to put it another way, I wonder if they'll make it like both of duplica's defected dittos combined?
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>>59124764it's ok she has cutemethio
>>59124096Ash also existed in a different formula. Roy himself I thought was a perfectly acceptable deuteragonist pre-timeskip for what it's worth. The main issue is that he mostly seems to be there to remind us to buy ZA. For how much of the animation budget his battles are eating up, he still has pretty much nothing going on plot wise. The time skip would have been a perfect time to give him some more backstory.
>>59124853Fair point.
>>59124824There are a multitude of possible approaches to it. Dittos could also be mimicking each other as the equivalent of screenshotting a screenshot over and over again.
>>59124844Already did my part.
