People are understating how extremely strong Spicy Spray is in both Smogon and VGC.>Already have Cramorant-Gorging in Hackmons as reference for how strong applying status by simply attacking it is>Has enough bulk to survive a Collision Course from Koraidon, burn it, then survive a second hit>Can even survive a Headlong Rush from Ursaluna>Has Rage Power, so in Doubles you can't simply ignore it most of the time>Works against spread moves so you ruin Rock Slide spammers>Fucks over most Fake Out users>No physical attacker besides Fires and Guts users even want to attack anything in free of Scovillain pivoting in>Any attack pivoting move is now extremely riskyIf Scovillain gets Synthesis in Champions, you bet your ass people will be bitching and moaning about it.
>>59129089>Fucks over most Fake Out usersExcept the only one that matters
>>59129101sneaslers u
>>59129089>Palafin used wave crash!
>>59129089Protective Pads doesn't block it, does it?
>>59129101>>59129102>Rillaboom>Grimmsnarl>Smeargle>Sneasler>Iron Hands>Sableye>Thick Fat Hariyama (the more common one)>Scrafty/Mega ScraftyNone of these Pokemon enjoy being burned that much.
>>59129121it does
>>59129121Nope. It's any attacking move, no matter what. Non-contact, special, utility, anything.>>59129115252+ Atk Choice Band Palafin Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Scovillain-Mega: 91-108 (52.9 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>59129089>has to sit out in the field making it worse than Flame Body, you need to click that Mega meaning it is forced into being a lead>will Burn things out of your control meaning other status options disappear>sets up the opposing Usaluna (freeing up its item slot) and Mega Mence to just sweep your team with max power Facades
>>59129089>spending your Mega Slot on Scovillain>wanting the opponent's team to get burned meaning Amoonguss can now no longer Spore them when Sleep control is one of the most vital aspects of the VGC metagame when it isn't time for the gods to play>spending your Mega Slot on Scovillain>basically BEGS people to use Mega Mence even more than they already will just for that delicious fringe possibility of getting to use the best possible Facade it can gain access to>spending your Mega Slot on Scovillain
You guys are laughing now but he’s going to be a top choice in Burn Used
>>59129089I think people are disregarding that, in Champions, there'll be no such thing as a Moody ban. You can have Scovillain actually stack buffs for itself before going mega
>>59129184>just sack your Follow Me/Rage Powder guys until Scovillain gets the right buffs bro, it'll work every time!
>>59129184Nothing quite like gambling on stat boosts for my mega to be worthwhile. Surely the opponent will do nothing at all
>>59129150In doubles maybe you have to use it as a leadBut this is not a problem in singles. Do people like you just forget that slow U-Turn pivots are a thing that exists for this reason?
>>59129197>>59129208All I'm saying is it'd be absolutely hilarious if Mega Scovillain is legitimately viable in practice upon release. And Smogon banned Moody for a reason.
>>59129221yeah and mega Feraligatr is a good design actually. Don’t be obtuse.
>>59129239dishonest argumentation makes people disagree with you more, not less, you know.
>>59129245yes I’m well aware scovillainfags are all disingenuous mongrels
>>59129221Because Smogon are a bunch of fanfic selfsuckers who don't even play the game and instead prefer to look at calculators all day. They see the slim but probable chance of Scovillain getting +6 Evasion, becoming hypothetically untouchable, and then ragequitting because their hypothetical RNG is then so bad that they never land a single hit that matters.And the only reason they believe in the "even the slimmest hypothetical is one that must be banned" is because they were all humiliated by the OHKO Dewgongs/Walreins of ingame Battle Facilities.
>>59129255Evasion doesn’t get boosted in gen 9, retard
>>59129263Well Smoggies wouldn't know that either, because Moody is still banned to this day despite the fact their main gripe with it was ALWAYS the fact that it could raise Evasion.
>>59129127>calcAnon that's non-hero palafin
>>59129159>If Scovillian burns them, I can't spore them with amoongussYou obviously don't run both on the same team
>>59129277You made me curious if neutralizing gas can block zero to hero. I assume not but it would be funny
>>59129276how are you more retarded than they are? they’ve banned it twice over in other gen 9 metas. like goddamn it takes ten seconds to figure this out with a google search
>>59129255>They see the slim but probable chance of Scovillain getting +6 Evasion, becoming hypothetically untouchable, and then ragequitting because their hypothetical RNG is then so bad that they never land a single hitMoody doesn’t boost Evasion anymore.Even after Moody was nerfed to not increase Evasion, it was still broken because the only 2 stats you really need to get the ball rolling were either Speed or the correct defense stat for whatever is in front of you. Once you do, you can just spam protect and substitute.Also Smogon allows Accupressure (moody as a move but with Evasion and no stat drop) and Starf Berry + Recycle/Harvest despite the RNG aspect because it’s not nearly as easy to snowball a bunch of boosts with either.And VGC players also fucking hate Moody. Moody Smeargle was the closest thing to actually being banned from VGC without it being some glitch.Please, shut your fucking mouth before you post online about subjects you don’t have any sort of clues about.
Haven't seen this much cope in trying to make a shitmon work since... I can't remember.
>>59129300Almost as bad as any meganium thread
>>59129300I feel like a lot of ZA Megas are going to have a lot of coping going on once Champions comes out
>>59129089You remind me of the retards who said Mega Banette was gonna be super broken and dominate the meta because "one guaranteed Prankster Destiny Bond KO was OP".To this day we still have retards trying to make that work lolI'll thank you for any future free wins, OP.
>>59129150">has to sit out in the field making it worse than Flame Body"Sir how do you think Flame Body works.
