A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?>Thread question:When it comes to terminology, do you prefer to read or write using the original or the localized version?>Previous thread:>>59122142
KNOWN ALLEGATIONS AGAINST WRITEFAGSPofag is the CEO of HUMILIATION RITUAL and KEKOLDRY. Possible Sabrina torturerSpicefag Gordy's BITVCH and has a Phd in Cuckoldry (also excellent in monsterfucking). IMOfag is a disgusting creature of lesbomancy and femdom known as a woman. Also into snuff and vague posts about torturing Sabrina.PokeNormal/Crystal Light fag makes everyone job to his OC villain.CCfag I haven't read. (Maybe fucks mentally ill retards?)Penfriendsfag HASN'T FUCKed HIS POKEMON YET.Saulfag has a bachelor's degree in Humiliation Ritual and makes PIDGEY-SAMA job.Mahoganyfag is into fvcking dragons and is a COWARD who REFUSES to fuck POKEMONAT LARGE! A writefag who scoops out Sabrina's eyeballs for shits and giggles.
>>59130218>PokeNormal/Crystal Light fag makes everyone job to his OC villain.How is that a bad thing tho? Canon Pokémon villains are retarded and not even villains but dindu noffings, yes, I will never let that go.
>>59130233Because I don't have anything else to put as slander for him. You're free to come up with your own slander if you want.
>>59130239Well in Crystal the MC refused to fight as far as I remember, it's been age since I last read it
>>Thread question:>When it comes to terminology, do you prefer to read or write using the original or the localized version?You mean like, original terms vs fan terms? Let's just say you wouldn't catch me using Pseudo-Legendary in a fic. Though since Starter is somewhat acknowledged I run with it.
>>59130272That reminds me, Prince of Po Town uses the term Partner Pokemon, but only twice.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/63818623/chapters/217014991Shifter Saga Chapter 4. I kinda had to think of a proper ending for this chapter, had other ideas but went with this one.Since I don't intend to name Chapters, I gotta ask - should I name them based on Arc or nah? Like [Arc Name Here] Part 1 or whatever?
>>59130209I like to think perfected versions of moves like Fake Out actually create hands made of type-energy when attacking
>>59130218>OC villainLaughing out loud. Rolling on the floor laughing, even. There is 1 OC across Crystal Light and PokeNormal so far. And it isn't the main villain.
>>59130388MissingNo is essentially an OC villain, even if they're real identity is AmberTwo or someone else's ghost.
>>59130253>refused to fight as far as I remember
>>59130218Add spreader of (royal) aids to poanon; Ian fvcks Hyde DAILY. Put him in his place every HOUR. Makes him his bitch every SECOND.
>Gravity training but it just fucks up a Pokémon’s joints long termI need to make this a thing
>>59130218And yet we’re all unintentional Squirtle Squad maximalists.
>>59130218>Penfriendsfag HASN'T FUCKed HIS POKEMON YET.Fuck you they actually did. (in my unposted notes)
>>59130807Fuck gravity trainer, all my Pokémon use Macho Braces
>>59130380Well crunch and bite had an energy way of executing them in the anime
>>59130964Well. Not the one time.
>>59130998Shhhhhutyourmouth
>>59130998My cat bit me the otherbday. Had to er that shit cause cats are evidently poison types and cause rapid infection. Was surprised by how deep the hole in my skin went. My dog accidently tripped my wife, and my cat attacked him because he thought he was attacking her. So I got bit while breaking them up. Which is the second time I've been bit breaking up a fight but first time an animal has bit me.
>>59130314Personally, I like when arcs are noted in the chapter title if I'm catching up with a fic. Gives me an idea of good exit points when reading and reentry points if I drop it and need to catch up later.
>>59131038>my wifewhy the fuck are you in this thread?
>a fight between E4 tier trainers
>>59131175Because my wife won't read my fucking fanfiction until I finish it because she doesn't like waiting between chapters. Also she isn't going to tell me its shit when parts of it are shit.
Fuck, I want to marry someday tooHave someone to tell me they love me...
What the name of that wavy thing the air does when the asphalt is hot in summer?
>>59131341Heat shimmer, alternatively, haze.
>>59131346Thanks
>>59131454I thought they didn't want people like you in their bunkers
Is Clair an ojou?
>>59131532I hope so
>>59131532>Rich>Bratty>Proud>Ridiculous sense of styleI'd say yes.
Is Sabrina a kuudere then?
>>59131748Maybe? Though in Unova she's a giga Stacy
Gameverse fic, but there are allusions made to Misty and Brock also going on an adventure with Ash when they were young, before the games happened: based or cringe?
How do you get in the mode to write? I open up my doc and all the effort just disappears.
>>59131748Yes, but when she's acting she's extremely expressive
>>59131786A fey mood strikes me, alternatively reading tips and criticism I've been given in the past always strikes me up. Sometimes I just switch to a random idea to whet my imagination if I can't crank out a chapter.
>>59131781Could be either depending on how you write it to be honest
>>59131786If I don't write then the next story beat will play on repeat in my head preventing me from thinking about other things.
>>59131786Just started being productive again after a bout of writer’s block. Break + working on something else I felt more excitement for, until I got tired of the new thing. Also having an upcoming chapter I am looking forward to helped.
>>59131781throw in an alain reference too i guess
>>59130807>serious consequences for their actions>in spacebattles SI power fantasieslol. It'll happen at the same time we see someone move their aura wrong and seriously cripple themselves because, surprise, fucking with your own life force/soul/whatever without any training or knowledge can be very very bad for you.
>>59132095Nah can't do Alain, he doesn't fit the timeline.
>>59132099Is your world a mix of everything but with game focus?
>>59132103I'd call it 95% games, but I mix in some anime, manga, etc. stuff if I find it charming.
WHY THE FUCK WONT [The True Pokemon Master!] UPDATE
>wake up in the Pokémon world>first thing I'd do besides the obvious (food/shelter/impress the local professor with my decades of knowledge to leech a shiny starter and Pokédex off him) is I would look up Rhydon fights. If Rhydon fights against other cool evolved Pokémon then I'm in the game verse. If Rhydon regularly jobs to highly marketable babymons then I'm in the anime verse and my biggest priority is to find a Spheal or something to use as my shouldermon
>>59132222id try to be a professor and id hand out more options for starters of random shit like houndour, driftloon, magnemite, female raltz
>>59132228Professor of what exactly? What can an isekaijin with access to wikipedia specialize in?
>>59132222>Rhydon fights against other cool evolved Pokémon then I'm in the game verseNigga a shitmon with a high level can stomp Rhydon, worry if the legendaries are frauds
>>59132228>I'm a chud with no prospects but surely in another world I'd become an academic prodigy that would easily master the sciences of a foreign universe and become a foremost expert in monster zoologyProbably gonna need a few intellectual cheat skills for that one
> Spinel was a scientist for Team Rocket. who proposed the idea for Strong Sphere using substance called Rakulium to boost pokemon. but Giovanni rejected and mock him. > Feeling humiliated, Spinel decides to join Exceed to manipulate them for his Strong Sphere project to get back at Giovanni > Strong Sphere started flopping after people realize its downside of making pokemon unable to hear command and go crazy mid-fights to hurt themselves.which gets even worse by Iono who purposefully fights trainer with strong sphere livestream to show Strong Sphere's downside and counter method.> Within a week , there is a huge fall in sales with people demanding their money back. > That's when Amethio's father take the opportunity come forward and expose Spinel's illegal activities and experiments on pokemon while revealing the legendary heroes to be under his care with Paldea League Chairman Geeta and Blueberry Academy professor Briar vouching for him. > With so many reliable source, people turns on Spinel. . > Spinel seething and angry, start to realize he is not the smart mastermind that he imagined himself to be which is the worst thing that can happen to an narcissist. > Spinel decides to release all the Rakulium on the atmosphere to drive every pokemon crazy as a petty revenge.> Even other Explorers turns on him. > Final fight ensures to stop this madman. > Spinel loses and tries to run away with last remaining Rakulium. > Spinel encounter Giovanni who calls him an incompetent overconfident fool. > Giovanni use a new device that has the same effect as Strong Sphere.as he reveal that the effects of Rakulium can be replicated by chemicals found in Scovillain that they uses for Spicy Extract. > Team Rocket already had their experiment and realized it to be ineffective > Spinel tries to fight only for Giovanni to curbstomp him, punch him in the face, destroy last viral of Rakulium before leaving him for the police.
>>59132278if a 10 year old can become champion and the fairy type can go undiscovered until the modern era then I'm pretty fucking sure the average chud would btfo any field they specialize in EXCEPT technology
I played a romhack recently (Pokémon Gaia) that explained the hyper competent 10 year old who's always in the same room as champions and professors question. It was a very simple explanation too, story was not a focus of this game. Essentially the professor gives you a key item that's an official researcher card alongside your "Here's a Pokédex, fill it up" request and every scientist and archaeologist you encounter on your journey takes note of this card and invites you for some exposition and quest giving because this is a trusted recommendation from the professor and not some litwho Samaritan that beat up a grunt with two Zubats
>>59132304I wonder why nobody has their MC "discover" the Dark or Steel types and act like that's special. Makes about as much sense as Fairy somehow being a complete unknown for so long despite being present and recorded in Legends Arceus.
>>59132452bot post
>>59132455?
I wonder why nobody has their MC discover aura transfer like Fate's mana transfer to make their teams stronger, you would expect furryfuckers to do it since that would give them a way to justify it
>>59132478Probably because affection mechanics already exist. If you want loving pokemon to translate to power it already does that. You don't need to crib from Fate. Not that furries really need an excuse.
>>59132458Pretty sure I saw that exact post with different wording in these threads before.
>>59132251The aura professor, of course
>According to Lucario's Pokédex entry in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, aura was named by Professor Laventon.>Legends: Arceus>A most gallant-looking creature. It emits energy waves and controls them with precision, using them to sense even faraway beings. I have given the name “aura” to this power.>The Pokédex entries in Pokémon Legends: Arceus are written by Laventon. Incidentally, he coined the term "scalchop" for Oshawott's signature seashell and the term "aura" for Lucario's signature energy wave control power. Laventon also observed that Unown resemble human writing from other lands, though no one takes him seriouslyDid someone say Aura Professor?
Do you think when the MCs come to a new city and meet new people who will be important to helping them that introductions should be given? Or do you think they should be skipped over since it would be information the readers already know about the characters?There's a lot of set up I need to go through before I can blow the lid off this Bioshock-Jurassic Park-1984 city I've just thrown them into, and I'm trying not to exposition dump and let them stumble into it naturally.
>>59132599>Furthermore, the Pokédex entry for Mr. Mime in Pokémon Silver also mentions "Aura," stating that Mr. Mime can create walls by solidifying the air with waves emitted from its fingertips.So that's where Ash got his aura from...
>>59132609So aura is just psychic powers? I think some anon posted MasterSex Riley feeling aura but it was just Sabrina's psychic powers
>>59132618Aura is energy vibration, aka waves. Heal Pulse, Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Origin Pulse are all aura moves, they all have "hadou" in their jp names.I wouldn't trust mastersex, especially not if you're relying on localization. https://wiki.pokemonwiki.com/wiki/%E6%B3%A2%E5%B0%8E
>>59132608Probably one or two sentences of introduction or inner thoughts
>>59132639>While "波動" originally refers to the physical phenomenon of a wave pattern spreading in space, in science fiction and the occult it is often treated as a concept of powerful energy or force>It refers to the inherent vibrations of all matter, commonly known as qi or aura. Alternatively, it refers to the technique of manipulating these vibrations>In the main series, Water Pulse, which appeared in the third generation, was the first instance of a wave as a move, and the description included terms like "ultrasonic waves" and "vibrations," indicating that it was based on the former, a physical mechanism.>Furthermore, the Pokédex entry for Mr. Mime in Pokémon Silver also mentions "Aura," stating that Mr. Mime can create walls by solidifying the air with waves emitted from its fingertips.>In Explorers of Time, Explorers of Darkness , and Explorers of Sky, you will input your own energy vibrations into the screen at the beginning of your adventure. Depending on the vibrations you input, you can also obtain items that allow you to feel your own energy vibrations, such as energy ribbons>Everything is done through vibrations You mean to tell me all this time aurafags where actually broken as fuck and the best they can come up with is to punch harder?
>>59132717punch harder *and talk to pokemon.Also plebian how they pretty much never use the other aura moves as inspiration. Like oh, you're punching harder? Are you doing it by infusing your fists with the malice of a Dark Pulse? Maybe drawing on the aura of the environment for a Terrain Pulse punch that matches the environment's type? No, you're just punching harder with aura? Oh, okay.
>>59132730I don't even read auraslop and I'm seething for some reason
>>59132717Yeah man, I'm like fucking Ichigo. Everyone is slinging kido and quincy arts and hollow nonsense while my move pool is literally as deep as a pokemon's.All I know is:Getsuga TenshoBankaiShunpo
>>59132740Fear the man that practiced one kick a thousand times rather than the shitter who browsed one thousand wiki articles on random martial art techniques - Ancient Proverb
I wrote out the legend of the dragon gate and the koi but with Magikarps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFzueHOtLE
And here we've got a pedantic retard taking wordplay too literally and acting like if he knows Japanese.
>>59132618>>59132639Here's the scene in Japanese by the way. Not that EOP-kun would be able to read it.
>>59132955
What things do you (usually) despise in fics (story elements, author insertion into the fic itself like politics, certain discriptions)? And were there times where a fic actually turned it into a good thing?
>>59130209>When it comes to terminology, do you prefer to read or write using the original or the localized version?The only time you should use non-english localized is when writing english is if a character is being different for some reason. Johto trainer using japenese translations instead of localizations is fair.I think I've seen Koga in one fic use the term shadow clones instead of double team, or something along those lines.Using confusing terms just makes reading a chore for no reason.
>>59132963Not exactly "turned into a good thing", but PoPT managed Ian revealing his meta knowledge in a way that didn't make me want to drop the fic.
>>59132963I disliked edgy realistic, but as long as it's not overbearing like hundreds of children dying each league season to weedle stings, then it can add good depth to the worldbuilding. Regular pokemon is actually kind of lame and having a trainer fret over damage to their team and not just "don't worry Lee Henson, pokemon are tough!" as he sobs like a bitch over nothing. That said permanent injuries from casual battling is kind of immersion breaking, and killing a pokemon should take effort and intention otherwise the worldbuilding would need to be significantly adapted to it which normal pokemon just isn't.
>>59132955>my lucario senses a strong wave>>59132959>has the wave changed?>it looks like they're trying to change the tide.
>>59132963Here's another question for readers:Is there a pokemon fanfiction you would want to self insert into?Assume no matter what you'll find success because of Arceus SI blessing or else obviously no one would pick a difficult one.The Most Evil Trainer sounds like it would be enjoyable and hilarious to insert into. All it takes is using the move Counter to piss everyone off, and the pokemon don't appear to be very sentient like they are in other fics. That and you get a free mansion after it's all said and done from the government for becoming a noble.On the contrary, Borne of Caution feels too bland and safe.
>>59132738I wish it was only an auraslop problem. Like, take a look at gravityslop. Spend a few months gravity training and for some reason their ice beams also get stronger??? Their leg and core muscles be freakishly ahead of the rest of their growth as a result of this specific training regimen. But instead it's treated as free powerleveling to punch harder.And why is it always only gravity training? Where's the pokemon with Pressure, Spite, or debuffs moves?Nutritionslop is mostly the same. Not a single one of them yields interesting results or uses special things like crystals.
>>59132996A post further up mentioned Macho Braces and it made me laugh imagining this DBZ metagamer jumping through hoops to "gravity train" when a normal ace trainer just buys a macho brace and it's the exact same thing, nothing is being invented
>>59132991>you'll find success because of Arceus SI blessing>Arceus SI blessingI'd SI into These Silver Eyes just to beat up Silver and absolutely dunk on Giratina. The Llama always wins baby
>>59132991I'd SI into IMO, rape Oberon and/or Tania into submission and astound everyone with my above 50 IQ.
>>59132963I despise real world political commentary crammed into Pokemon fiction, especially changes made to the Pokemon world just for the sake of stroking the author's pet political cause of the day.>healthcare in Pokemon is suddenly ruinously expensive>character starts spouting political talking points out of nowhereGenuinely a disgusting and fic-ruining experience. I don't need to read that garbage in my fiction when I'm already living it, and especially not from some dumbshit kid living with superpowered companions.Grimdark is pretty boring, too. Maybe I'm just tired of all the kids making Pokemon edgier and darker and then pretending what they're doing is novel or different from everyone else, but Pokemon as a world is a wonderful place, and it's retarded to get so caught up in the imperfections of life that you forget you are living in a beautiful world.There's a fic where all the ghost types are starving to death and to survive they have to eat people's memories, but the Pokemon League requires trainers to only train one kind of Pokemon. So every year there are trainers doomed to ego death and suicide in this fic's world. It's a misery fic with worldbuilding explicitly focused on making the place a shithole, and I don't have time for that. Slow pacing and misery is all it has.>>59132996How to avoid the gravityslop/nutritionslop trap? It feels like anytime someone comes up with a fairly original idea it becomes "slop." What are some ideas you have for getting around a novel training method that somehow the rest of the world hasn't figured out? Crystals you mention, debuffs, etc.?
>>59133016>here is your goverment mandated team of six soul eating parasites
>>59133016>be me>plan religious government for my fic>suddently iran war starts>planned ending is very comparableThanks a lot orange man, you suddently made my fic political >:(
>>59133016>anytime someone comes up with a fairly original idea it becomes "slop."It only really becomes slop once all the unimaginative copycats come out of the woodwork. First time's free because you're the innovator, but no one after you has any excuse.
>>59133016>How to avoid the gravityslop/nutritionslop trap?You gotta make it make sense and be original>nutritionslopIt doesn't make a lot of sense, pokemon is not set into the middle ages, they very likely have a good idea of nutrition because it's just that important for training.>gravityslopIt's just dbz. I don't really see a problem with that, but i can imagine how others can see that as unoriginal
>>59133034>killing ground-type humansThat's different though. That's based.
>>59132963whenever an author thinks edginess equals mature writing
>>59133048>You gotta make it make sense and be originalI believe I have found the problem. Shit.Gravityslop is so one-note as a training method and no one talks about how their mons would be shorter as their spines get compressed.>>59133036Wasn't nutritionmann the guy who came up with it first? Or went in on it? And he's called nutritionslop. I'm not sure just being first works, as >>59133048 pointed out.>>59133034There's gotta be more to it than that, I think. Just having a religious government getting BTFO'd probably isn't political unless you're writing something like the Handmaid's Tale with extra modern political references. Is there oil in this custom region?
>>59133070Eh, everyone has their own definition of slop. Nutritionman's been ongoing for a while now, and not innovating on your own concept is itself a kind of slop. Plus it's ongoing while all the copycats are also ongoing, so it's the same slop in a sea of same slop.
Every time someone tries to make the government or elites needlessly edgy or unrealistic it ends up being true. At this point we should all embrace that specifically.
Official stuff always tries to skirt around the idea of a whole planet of new Pokemon. So what if a thing where people and Pokemon went to space resulted in Pokemon gaining new Regional Variants? You know, like Newtype bullshit?
>>59133156Like Space-type?
>>59133217I imagine actual material will assign a variety of types for a variety of reasons, like "oh, it's adapted to the COLD abyss of Space! Ice-type" or they get Fairy or Psychic because those are the Space types. Lotta directions.
I've heard what you all have to say about using Arceus as a substitute for god, but how about equating Giratina and the Distortion World to equivalents of the Devil and Hell/Purgatory?
>>59133356That's pretty common too tho
>>59133016>I despise real world political commentary crammed into Pokemon fiction, Wasn't Pokémon always political, especially on the environmental front?
