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Previous Thread: >>59119352
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When Amoongus?
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>1000 hourglasses saved
>still no ttar ex
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Beauties
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>>59134797
9.5/10, very good.
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it's shrimple really
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>>59134869
splain dat
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Anyone looking for a 2-star Nemona? What are you offering for her?
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It's all just so tiring..................
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I want a stadium that lets you select what the next turn's energy will be.
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>>59135082
yours or your opponents?
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>>59135103
Your own. It would be busted if you could disrupt the enemy's energy for free.
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no seriously, is this games meta beyond repair? We were off to a great start but we somehow reverted back despite manectric being a pretty good card. Altaria and Hydriegon really are these unbeatable monsters that will keep coming back huh
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>>59135082
Your Dragon cards will never be viable.
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>>59135109
Lmfao it just went back to the same shit again, holy KEK
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>>59135109
we went back because in the last 4 sets they haven't actually printed anything that can realistically match the retarded speed of altaria or hydreigon and in fact have released several support cards that have had nothing but a rich get richer effect
like what the fuck do you do when the other guy drops both hydreigons on the board turn 3? you fucking lose
until that changes the meta won't
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>>59135107
it would be kinda balanced since they could disrupt your energy too since stadiums can be used by both people
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>>59135143
You would be able to stall too easily if they could change your next energy and leave you helpless.
It would probably need some kind of stipulation to use, anyway. They really don't want people running multicolor decks, and I don't want to see people splashing random Oricorio onto decks and letting them hit stuff.
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>>59135143
>play deck with pure colorless attackers like arceus crobat or ways to generate typed energy like pichu
>other guy just flat out doesn't get to play the game
cool idea bro
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>>59135152
>other guy just flat out doesn't get to play the game
isnt this igglybuff?
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Mega Altaria and Hydriegon represent broken archetypes that aren’t easily powercrept. One is a 2 energy attacker for 130dmg loaded with broken support basics, and the other is effectively a 1 energy attacker for 130dmg. Hydriegon basically auto beats any deck that cant one shot it or tank the monster damage.
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>>59135140
reverse oricorio that can only be damaged by EX, or mega EX even
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>>59135149
imagine the fucking degeneracy if you could viably and consistently run multicolor
you thought hydreigon and altaria were bad? well get ready for altaria/hydreigon, now with no weaknesses whatsoever!
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>>59135161
>pcl
>ogerpon
>apron
>comfey
>evopve to break sleep and run over the 30 ho baby
>just flip heads bro
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>>59135109
the problem is DeNA are clueless fucking retards that think iono and penny needed reprints and metal core barrier and arboliva are so good they should be crown rares
meta changes will be when primal groudon and kyogre drop but I'd bet on them fucking that up too
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>>59135168
That's why it would need some kind of stipulation to use.
I just want Poliwrath to be good, man.
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>>59135181
they pushed the mega gardevoir button even though hydreigon's presence made it effectively unplayable
they have no idea what they're doing at all, especially from a monetary standpoint
make garde the meta, put it on the crown instead of fucking meloetta, and they could've made 4x the cash from fantastical parade
retards squandering literally everything
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>>59135189
poliwrath ex will never be good because it's literally just shitty dragonite ex
nothing can change that
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Know what a good card game was?
Forbidden Memories. That was a good card game.
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>>59135192
yugioh vidya peaked at WC2011
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>>59135197
I didn't say Yu-gi-oh game. I said card game.
Forbidden Memories is, by all metrics, NOT a Yu-gi-oh game.
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>>59134884
Alt fag
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>>59135163
>>59135165
or this cornerstone ogerpon
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>>59135256
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>get convinced by anons to stop rerolling and just buyfag Cyrus with points
>get him in the last x10 I had left in the alt I had stopped at
>mfw now I can get two Cyrus
Never listen to reason, gamba is the way.
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>if this pokemon is in the active spot, the opponent cannot generate more than 1 energy attacker turn
Accompany this with a grass type and decent stats bam thats all you need to do. As for altaria i have no idea that pokemon is flawless and broken, very little counters it
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>>59135567
Just play Alolan Ninetales.
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>>59135567
altaria's weakness is, in theory, bench sniping. the nature of the deck forces you to run a high number of basics, the vast majority of which are easy pickings for most snipe cards.
the issue with this is that bench sniping cards suck outside of greninja and the now barely playable decidueye, so altaria can just splash in greninja and beat snipe decks at their own game. it's truly a terribly designed card.
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how do we even save this game? everything is falling apart since Mega rising was introduced.
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>>59135638
make even more op cards
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>>59135638
bigger decks
more points needed to win
basically just slow the game down a little so that a turn 3 hydreigon isn't an insurmountable advantage
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>>59134797
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>>59134999
Can you explain why anybody would want that?
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>>59135593
>it's truly a terribly designed card
Who, Greninja or Altaria?
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>>59135690
yes
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>>59135638
Genuinely, Rotation
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>>59135710
There's no way they're going to rotate Series B out at least until Series D starts. Rotating out Series A and B at the same time that Series C starts would mean that nothing would be playable except the limited pool of Series C cards. And that's if they do rotation at all. I'm going to be stuck with Series B and its awfully designed Megas and Hydreigon and Lucky Ice Poop for at least a year and a half. The game will be able to survive that, because it's pokémon, but it will be miserable as hell.
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I need a diamond Mega Scizor, let me know what you want for it. My cards are JPN if that matters.
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>>59135681
lol I don't know, probably waifufags? I honestly know nothing about the character. I just saw a lot of people excited about her when the expansion was revealed.
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Thoughts on my deck?
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>>59135593
Altaria’s damage doesn’t fall enough, even 100 damage is enough to secure some wins
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>>59135823
Electric Generator is a card that's not going to do anything half the time, just use the old electric support items instead.
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>>59135944
It helps ramping Manectric super fast and I have two so I rarely miss both of them, it also helps ramping Oricorio if I'm facing strong EXs and Oricorio is not ready yet
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>>59135658
game is designed from the ground up to be a little timewaster you do on the bus, the only chance they'll redesign the game to slow it down is if it ends up on life support
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Is RR Flareon for DX Lusamine a good trade?
t. Make Ultra Beasts Great Again coper
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>>59135638
My response to this from last thread.

Realistically, the game can’t be fixed. There’s no mechanic, card, etc. that can solve the underling problems that are baked in. Which are all by design. It’s card collecting sim with a watered down version of the real tcg tucked inside. Devs put infinitely more effort into trying to get players to spend on packs than they do balancing anything at all. The reality is that the battling in the game is only a means for them to incentivize you paying for each new pack. Because, again, it’s by design that every new set has something totally broken that people will chase after that will win them more games. Even if something gets made in a set that counters something broken in the meta there will be something new that will dominate and the complaints will shift to that. This has been the norm since the very first set.

This has been the game’s cycle and it will continue to be this way until it just peters out and dies completely. Which, desu, feels like it’s already beginning. Thinking things will change after a year and a half into this I think is copium.

Tldr; Game can't be saved. This is just how it is and you can accept it or drop it altogether.
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Ah, if only these were 2 star cards I wanted
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>>59136200
>complaining about a RR Manectric and a FA scizor
>That he got from a WP luck
get a load of this faggot
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>>59136191
>every new set has something totally broken that people will chase after that will win them more games
Except that isn't the case? It's still Hydregion/Altaria winning everything. Nothing beats 130 damage for 3 cards and no needed ramp, or 130 damage for 2 energy with a mountain of support babies that can switch in and out easily and die just as easily to protect the mega EX.
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>>59136200
i'll take the scizor off your hands if you don't want it then anon
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>>59136215
My Zeraora Manectric beats Altaria most of the times, it does struggle against Hydreigon though
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>>59136191
>The reality is that the battling in the game is only a means for them to incentivize you paying for each new pack. Because, again, it’s by design that every new set has something totally broken that people will chase after that will win them more games.
the past 4 packs have been nothing but useless dogshit though
>fantastical parade and crimson blaze dead on arrival, ogerpon only seeing use because people are spamming igglybuff
>paldean wonders gave suicune bax + chien pao to flex in, bellibolt + electric generator technically usable
>mega shine has a bellibolt sidegrade and darkrai
and in spite of all of this, you can still just run hydreigon and win
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>>59136257
I really wonder if Hydreigon was an accident. It, Silvally, and Rampardos are the only times a 3d card has really dominated the meta. Even then, Silvally and Rampardos were playing second fiddle to Darktina.
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>>59136218
you're getting lucky largely, I play Altaria and I only lose to Manectric decks when I get bricked. Manectric decks are piss easy to beat since the deck lacks any power whatsoever unless it can get 2 KO's
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>>59136281
>I really wonder if Hydreigon was an accident
It's essentially 130 damage off one energy for a regular Pokemon, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe if it was like Greninja where it came out months before rare candy.
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The recoil damage makes it fair you see
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>>59136356
I'm just saying, they made a (relatively, compared to 4d ex cards) common card extremely powerful, to the point where it can support itself almost perfectly. It doesn't even care about going first, and even prefers it in most cases. Seems like a complete accident when just a couple months ago we had Solgaleo who got powercrept out of existence right away.
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>>59136133
>only chance they'll redesign the game to slow it down is if it ends up on life support
That, or they'll somehow manage to double down
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>>59136356
>>59136362
>>59136365
Hydregion wasn't completely busted until the popscicle showed up. It was good, but the deck being forced to rely on Indeedee healing meant it got bricked a lot of times on startup and made for really easy loss conditions if you could snipe Indeedee.

Now that Hydranigger decks have dropped everything but Absol, and they are trying to drop even M.Absol, the deck just wins easily. hell, I played against an all in hydregion deck once where the opponent was using silkscarf to recover hydregion/Deino and re-evolve the fucker using Zweilous. I would have lost that game if they managed to get the ball rolling and could cycle Deino evo's every turn, but they didn't quite have enough time.
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>The base damage of Mega Altaria's attack is reduced by 10 (40+ -> 30+)
>Hydreigon's attack now costs 4 energy instead of 3
>Lucky Ice Pop's heal takes place after you flip heads
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this game is fucking dead
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>>59136217
Would you do it for a mystic island mew ex planeta?
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>>59136394
Hydreigon was a top 2 deck before the ice pop, only losing out to Greninja/Altaria.
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>>59136506
I have one of those to trade for the scizor, yeah
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Seems of all the card pack effects the purple background is the one that indicates a 2* or higher rarity
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>>59136502
Good
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I don't see how Mega Gengar is so good that they had to have it require four energies for 120 damage.
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>>59136573
Ok, gib friend code
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>>59136896
sweet, thanks a ton anon
3602005196860740
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>>59136826
You must have the IQ of a cupcake if you think the energy requirement is because of the 120 damage and not the fucking broken effect.
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>Steelix tops still keep randomly popping up
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>>59136740
What are you talking about?
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>>59137053
There are audio and visual effects that occur when you open a pack, and the slightly purple one consistently indicates a 2* card. It doesn’t always occur when you get a 2* though.
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>>59137072
It's been long established by datamines that those are completely random if anything above 4 diamonds is in the pack, and it showing up isn't guaranteed.
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>>59137077
I can safely say a purple effect has never meant anything less than a 2* for me, but ok anon
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>>59137088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MawMX_8UgL0
Multiple examples of the different tiers of effects and sounds having anything from 4 diamonds to immersives.
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>>59137098
I hear you bro, and in my experience, the purple effect, not the rainbow, has always meant a 2* card was in the pack.
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>>59137110
Respectfully, your experience means absolutely nothing when the game's code tells otherwise.
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>>59137110
The "purple effect" has exclusively shown up on 1* pulls for me for a while now lmao
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>>59137116
Video is from a year ago anyway.
>>59137139
Which is weird, to me, because I always get the rainbow effect for 1* pulls.
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>>59136914
Thank you my boy, it’s been a long time coming
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>>59137153
Grats anon, happy to help out, your contribution to my bug collection is also appreciated
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>>59136979
You lack reading comprehension.
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>>59137161
Be careful where you put the bugs Mr. Merricku..
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>>59137153
Charge your phone
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I have collected the dawgs.
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my knees... they are bending on their own...
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>>59137353
Dawg niggas
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No shiny Mega Charizard Y is ruining my all-shiny fire deck.
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>no 24 hour wonderpick in 3 days
Go on.... save yourselves... It's OGRE for me
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>ehh might aswell login quick
>don't know what packs to open
>go for Lugia pack for Will
>get my second Lyra and a shiny Nidoran
i just had a feeling, when i least expect it.
well my first 2 star dupe that's pretty cool... but why did it have to be Lyra aaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>59137804
lyra is the most valuable 2* in that entire pack desu, you could have done a lot worse. just trade her for something half-decent.
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well, at least i got the consolation prize.
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>>59137894
which set is that again? i thought 24h picks were only the most recent
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>>59137905
Non-24 WPs can have 2 stars.
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>>59137905
fantastical parade. just a random 4-cost WP, not a 24h.
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>>59137909
never happened for me
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>>59137990
Skill issue.
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new pack when?
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>>59138165
April 27th 9 PM EST.
You can see when the current Solo Random Battle challenges expire.
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Why do they even limit shop tickets at 5 per day when the only useful thing to buy from them (hg) is also monthly limited?
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>>59138186
To prevent people from easily obtaining the Special Accessories in the store.
They want (you) to spend money on packs to pull Star cards and sacrifice them for some Special Tickets.
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>>59138186
BUY POKEGOLD STOOPID GAIJIN! U BUY NAO
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>>59138201
>Special Accessories
Oh I forgot about those shits.
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>4th consecutive 24h wp with rainbow manectric
>4th miss
make up your fucking mind game do you want me to have this or not?
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>>59137804
Shut up, I got fucking Hau and Penny. Like, who the hell likes those two... things? I'd gladly take x2 Lyra any time.
>>59138353
They just want you to burn through your hourglasses.
t. has 30 hourglasses left
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>>59138554
>tfw sitting on 890 glasses
Bastards wont even give me 2 stars to pick
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>not buying Chinese bot accs for every card but golds in the game at the cost of a mcdouble
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>>59138733
where does one do this



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