HM bloat Victory Roads suck
>>59138063Sinnoh Victory Road requiring 5 HMs (Rock Smash, Strength, Rock Climb, Surf and Waterfall) knocks it down 2 tiers.
>>59138063HM kino Victory Roads rule>>59138077Sinnoh Victory Road requiring 5 HMs (Rock Smash, Strength, Rock Climb, Surf and Waterfall) raises it up 2 tiers.
Victory road is a tedious playtime padder that serves no purpose. Once you've beaten all the gyms there's no reason not to just go straight to the league. If you want a final test before the champion, that's literally the elite 4.On this basis, the johto games have the best victory road because it has no trainers in it
BW2 has cool sub areas like a forest and the path that takes you to N's Castle ruins.XY has those nice outdoor areas in-between caves. You can see Kalos down below the higher you go up. Johto might be the most boring, unless you want to say that Route 26 is Victory Road. I didn't play Galar.
>>59138077It’s genuinely impressive that they managed to one-up Hoenn’s HM usage the gen after
Love Johto but its victory road cave is sorry as>>59138077Nah, it's part of managing your team as per the intended effect. The game tells you that you must make room for certain moves and Pokemon instead of getting a totally free ride. I am happy they removed them but hm hate is silly
I liked Poni Canyon...
>>59138043the only ones i really remember are BW1 for the cool badge check gates, BW2 for being objectively the best iteration, and DPP for having that whole side area with marley and then the route leading to the shaymin event. so i would put all those in S tier and the rest in literally who cares tier.
>>59138177I don’t mind HMs generally, but Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh has too many.
>>59138156Galar didn't have a victory road, it was an actual straight line with like 3 or 4 trainer battles. They didn't even put it in a cave.
>>59138097Based
The only ones I remember are from RSE and RBY.The only one I fondly remember is from RSE.
>>59138097It's good for world building, its purpose is to show you're not the only hot new trainer around since everyone else there also has all 8 badges. One could argue Gen 8 kind of did it better by collapsing victory road and the E4 into a single tourney similar to how the anime does it, but that was just blatant asset reuse so they wouldn't need to design a new set of characters so it loses points.With the current amount of things they can put in a game, Victory Road doesn't need to exist anymore but it did have a valid reason for existing in the past.
>>59138043DPP is too high>another shitty cave>anticlimactic literal placeholder music>reuses Hoenn's progression instead of doing anything remotely original
>>59138063>>59138077>this RPG requires me to employ... RESOURCE MANAGEMENT SKILLS? AIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME OHMORI
